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Ugliest car ever from GM?

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Aztek hands down?

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Jeez, I heard someone bot one !

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Aztek hands down?

‘58 Buick Limited ‘59 Olds

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That aztek reminds me of what a scaled-down version of the Family Truckster might look like……wonder if they have the Pea Green color

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the Olds Achieva

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the Olds Achieva

Oh, they are not all that attractive, but I would not say they were the UGLIEST thing GM ever came up with. With all due respect to the folks who like ‘em I had an Achieva on rental for a couple of days about 3 years ago. A real nothingburger of a car. But no, I don’t think it was that ugly…

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No question, it’s the Aztec. A GM screw-up of global thermo-nuclear proportions. I just hope that among those 2000+ GM executives who are being forced by the General to drive the things around Detroit are numbered the idiot-laden committees that approved the thing for production. It makes the Edsel Ranger look tasteful and refined. Yuck! — – GRL "When someone annoys you, remember that it takes 42 muscles to frown, but only 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack them on the back of the head."

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That aztek reminds me of what a scaled-down version of the Family Truckster might look like……wonder if they have the Pea Green color

I think you CAN get a Aztek in metallic pee.

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The Achieva really looks good nowadays. neat profile. at first i hated the design. now after a few years, they look neat.

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I find myself wondering: how long a run is GM gonna make of those before closing up production? You mentioned the Edsel Ranger. Well, the Edsel got a lot of mocking in the press by various columnists, TV personalities, and all that. I have heard no such similar mocking of the Aztek. Does anyone have any sales figures on that beast?

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I find myself wondering: how long a run is GM gonna make of those before closing up production?

You have to wonder, especially with vehicle sales going in the crapper as of recent.. As strange as they are, however, I’ve seen more then a few driving around here locally, so apparently _someone_ is buying them.. Personally, I like the front end, could live with the side view, but the rear-end is just too bizzare for even me, and I’m pretty forgiving when it comes to "Different" vehicles.. Take the new Impala, for instance.. When it first came out everybody screamed bloody murder about the rear taillights.. I never "Hated" them, persay, but they did have to grow on me, and now I envy the car quite alot, and the fact that the plant here in Oshawa can’t make them quickly enough speaks volumes towards the fact that they are selling like hotcakes…. Now, if only I could afford one.. — Mark – Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Chevy Astro / GMC Safari Message Board! Click Below! http://pub37.ezboard.com/bchevyastroandgmcsafari

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……and GM scraped Olds with decent looking cars! RJL

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No question, it’s the Aztec. A GM screw-up of global thermo-nuclear proportions. I just hope that among those 2000+ GM executives who are being forced by the General to drive the things around Detroit are numbered the idiot-laden committees that approved the thing for production. It makes the Edsel Ranger look tasteful and refined. Yuck! — – GRL "When someone annoys you, remember that it takes 42 muscles to frown, but only 4 muscles to extend your arm and smack them on the back of the head." Aztek hands down?

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…….and GM scraped Olds with decent looking cars!

Decent to very nice, and that were not selling.

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That aztek reminds me of what a scaled-down version of the Family Truckster might look like……wonder if they have the Pea Green color

More like a kid’s playhouse on wheels…

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That aztek reminds me of what a scaled-down version of the Family Truckster might look like……wonder if they have the Pea Green color More like a kid’s playhouse on wheels…

When I was a youngster, they had these big compacting trash trucks running around in Los Angeles. They were White trucks, and the compactor unit was Leach. When I first saw an Aztek from the back, it brought back the picture in my mind of those trucks.

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……and GM scraped Olds with decent looking cars!

Debatable.. But decent looking or not, they were poor sellers. Olds was nothing but a Cancer for GM.. It’s not something they needed to keep around. — Mark – Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Chevy Astro / GMC Safari Message Board! Click Below! http://pub37.ezboard.com/bchevyastroandgmcsafari

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Debatable.. But decent looking or not, they were poor sellers. Olds was nothing but a Cancer for GM.. It’s not something they needed to keep around.

Hmmm, this is true. I’m 24 years old and a die-hard Oldsmobile fan. But, as an Economics major, I have to agree it was a good idea to kill Oldsmobile as a division. I’ve watched the auto industry for several years now. I’ve noticed that Buick seems to be trying to change it’s stodgy-traditional image of being a "old person’s" car. Here you have the latest array of concept cars and the new Rendezvous "SUV" aka minivan with a defined front end. If Buick is not able to change it’s image, I can only see it taking the highway to auto heaven with Oldsmobile in a few years. I mean GM is obviously moving towards two main divisions, Chevrolet-Chevrolet Trucks and Pontiac-GMC. Cadillac and Saturn both have their niche in the marketplace that is well defined. Unfortunately, GM has been very slow at meeting customers’ demands and the import competition. So, it only makes sense that traditional brands such as Oldsmobile and Buick be euthanized. Now, I mentioned that I am an Oldsmobile fan. So, IMHO, it will be missed. I thought the Olds cars were heading in the right direction design-wise. Now that Olds is dead, I really have to question my loyalty to GM. I mean, what kind of management do you have when you take one of the top selling American nameplates to demise in less than two decades. Then again, there is GM’s SUV obsession. Most people would agree that due to rising insurance rates and gas prices as unstable as a southern California faultline, the SUV craze has seen it’s zenith. Unless GM can find a way to dump the tortoise attitude at meeting the customers’ demands, it’s market share will only continue to dwindle. Anyway, I will get off my soap box now. I just had to vent. Take care and God bless, Jeremy

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Why not just keep Cadillacs, Chevrolet, Park Avenues, Grand Ams and Prix’s. Everything else is duplication or doesn’t sell. Have different handling/tire packages available on Chevrolets to please people who want handling or floating. Market share is going to go down to maybe 25%, they couldn’t even figure out how to market their best driving car line. Current new Olds owners for their next car probably won’t go for boyracer Pontiacs or floating Buicks, but they may use their $1500 vouchers for Chevys if they need to save the cash instead of getting that Maxima, Jetta, or Accord they really want to get.

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That aztek reminds me of what a scaled-down version of the Family Truckster might look like……wonder if they have the Pea Green color More like a kid’s playhouse on wheels…

More like a scaled-down municipal trash truck. DS

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Nah, 1967 Bel Air, I had one of those battleships. Yeesh!!! About as long as a football field, no shape. The Aztec is not my favorite, but I don’t think that it is that bad. Personnaly, I think the Ford Focus is about the ugliest thing on the road now. Aztek hands down?

– See ya!!! Danman

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I agree, I think you will see automobile manufacturers start to streamline their lineups. I mean, what is the use in making the same vehicle with minor cosmetic changes and selling it under 5 different names (import and domestic names I might add). It just doesn’t make good financial sense to do that. With so many automobile manufacturers getting in bed together (Ford, Mazda, Nissan) (GM, Honda, Isuzu, Toyota) (Chrystler, Mitsubishi), brands have really become a thing of the past. We kinda have generic vehicles now that are some sort of bastardization of several different manufacturers. I think you would be hard pressed to find a car true to it’s name anymore. I have a Nissan Pickup. It was built in a Ford plant with parts supplied by Nissan that were made in Tennessee. Eventually, I think you may see GM be reduced to Chevrolet, Cadillac, and maybe Pontiac. They could go after the Buick/ Olds market with some lower line Cadillac’s. It seems as if they are putting all of the performance vehicles under the Pontiac flag, and Chevy is going after the daily driver/ economical vehicles. Chrystler is killing Plymouth. I expect that it is only a matter of time before Ford kills Mercury. Certainly this trend will continue over the next 10 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Debatable.. But decent looking or not, they were poor sellers. Olds was nothing but a Cancer for GM.. It’s not something they needed to keep around. Hmmm, this is true. I’m 24 years old and a die-hard Oldsmobile fan. But, as an Economics major, I have to agree it was a good idea to kill Oldsmobile as a division. I’ve watched the auto industry for several years now. I’ve noticed that Buick seems to be trying to change it’s stodgy-traditional image of being a "old person’s" car. Here you have the latest array of concept cars and the new Rendezvous "SUV" aka minivan with a defined front end. If Buick is not able to change it’s image, I can only see it taking the highway to auto heaven with Oldsmobile in a few years. I mean GM is obviously moving towards two main divisions, Chevrolet-Chevrolet Trucks and Pontiac-GMC. Cadillac and Saturn both have their niche in the marketplace that is well defined. Unfortunately, GM has been very slow at meeting customers’ demands and the import competition. So, it only makes sense that traditional brands such as Oldsmobile and Buick be euthanized. Now, I mentioned that I am an Oldsmobile fan. So, IMHO, it will be missed. I thought the Olds cars were heading in the right direction design-wise. Now that Olds is dead, I really have to question my loyalty to GM. I mean, what kind of management do you have when you take one of the top selling American nameplates to demise in less than two decades. Then again, there is GM’s SUV obsession. Most people would agree that due to rising insurance rates and gas prices as unstable as a southern California faultline, the SUV craze has seen it’s zenith. Unless GM can find a way to dump the tortoise attitude at meeting the customers’ demands, it’s market share will only continue to dwindle. Anyway, I will get off my soap box now. I just had to vent. Take care and God bless, Jeremy

– See ya!!! Danman

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Awesome on the inside, but ugly on the outside.! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aztek hands down?

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I first time I saw one (aside from a dealer lot-many in stock) was on a return trip from the airport after dropping my brother off for an early morning return flight the day after Christmas. It was still dark and I wondered what the ugly vehicle was ahead of me. Up to this point my focus on the Astek being ugly was the front end. Well the rear end deserves its portion of criticism also. This is the only time I have seen an Astek on the road. Hopefully the Buick version will look better. BTW, I do like some other designs most others dislike. I liked the 96-99 Taurus and the new Maxima and even like its rear end styling. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aztek hands down?

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Aztek

I dunno. The new Monte Carlos and Impalas look pretty goofy. "It’s a crazy world, have fun with it." -Jerry Springer "Remember, when someone annoys you that it takes 42 muscles to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and whack them in the head." – unknown What is a Team Goon? http://www.teamgoon.com My Personal page: http://teamgoon.i85.net FORMAL NOTICE: unsolicited commercial email will be read at a charge of $500 per item. Harvesting of my email address, and receipt of such email shall be considered to constitute acceptance of contract, and will be billed immediately.

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Wheezing Cough And Flovent » P/Asthma/Inhalers

P/Asthma/Inhalers

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Long story made short… I’m 37 yrs old and was diagnosed w/ asthma 3 yrs ago. After doing much research I’ve come to the conclusion that I’ve had asthma since childhood but was never diagnosed. Since childhood I’ve always had some skin irritation (P) in very small patches on my shins and scalp which was easily cleared w/ topicals. Since starting on Serevent and Flovent, however, I cannot clear the P and it has actually spread to my forearms, neck, elbows, and calves. I’ve eliminated just about any other factor. Has anybody had a similar experience. Am I crazy in relating the two? My derm thinks so. -B

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I also have a similar background as you. I am 35 years old. I have had asthma since 2. I have had small p patches on my scalp and around my mouth since 15. I have stopped using topicals for my p. Although the spots do go away short term after the treatment, the p would always come back a bit worse after I stop the application. So I have decided the short term clearing is just not worth the potential long term risks for me. As for my asthma, it has gotten much better since my teenager years. It’s now less than 1 attack per year with no maintenance medication. Don’t know if it’s puberty or the fact that I took up karate around the same time. When I do have an asthma attack, from say exposure to doggy dander, I usually just control it with an otc spray. I haven’t thought about any connection between my asthma and p. I will pay more attention to see if my p gets worse after an asthma attack/otc spray. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Long story made short… I’m 37 yrs old and was diagnosed w/ asthma 3 yrs ago. After doing much research I’ve come to the conclusion that I’ve had asthma since childhood but was never diagnosed. Since childhood I’ve always had some skin irritation (P) in very small patches on my shins and scalp which was easily cleared w/ topicals. Since starting on Serevent and Flovent, however, I cannot clear the P and it has actually spread to my forearms, neck, elbows, and calves. I’ve eliminated just about any other factor. Has anybody had a similar experience. Am I crazy in relating the two? My derm thinks so. -B

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Singulair And Flovent » Visit with Pulmonologist

Visit with Pulmonologist

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My 12 year old son was the same way, our first Dr. had this kids on 5 different things, 3 and 3 times a day – no adult would want to do that, so why should I expect a 12 year old to? We changed Drs. last fall. I explained to him the hassle of getting Aaron to take his meds. We are now on just Pulmicort and Rhinocort once a day with saline nose spray a few times a day and Claritin as needed. what a difference in compliance! I don’t pester anymore, life is much nicer in our household – no more crabby mom and dad and a kid who actually takes his meds on schedule.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello Sally, My son has been guilty of not taking his meds daily, also. He is 16 and one would think he would be responsible! I always note the day he starts a new inhaler and if it isn’t pretty much empty when it should be, then I know he’s not been taking his meds. His doctor is very good about discussing the need for taking meds on a regular basis. I think part of the problem is that since his asthma is in good control (the good part) he tends to ignore the importance of preventative meds. Good luck in your campaign to quit smoking! It’s a tough battle (I quit in 1998) but well worth it! Patrice I took my 12 yr old son to an appointment with a Pulmonologist yesterday. As of the one visit, I liked her no-nonsense attitude. After reviewing his breathing tests, current meds and recent breathing tests from the Allergist’s office, she flat out told my Son she didn’t trust his age group as they tend to lie about taking their meds. Turns out she was right on the money. He’s only been taking the Serevent and Pulmicort about half the time, although he does take the Singulair and allergy meds as he should. She gave him a good lecture about what being on Prednisone too often would do for him, that he’s already a severe asthmatic and isn’t doing himself any good, etc. He didn’t deny it and finally admitted it. Seems for 113% effort, his bottom line was only 70%. She let him know that the meds he’s on should be working great for him. Feels that if he takes it all as he should then next winter he should be able to participate in ski club like he wanted to this year. At least there’s no flying allergens on a snow-covered slope!!! The only changes she made to his meds were she ordered him to take him in front of us parents each time, to stay on the nebulized Albuterol for another two weeks, and added Zantac to work along with the Prilosec for his stomach. Today he saw the Family Dr and tomorrow he sees the Allergist. Within the next few weeks he’ll be seeing a Pediatric Gastro since it’s pretty much felt he has GERD…which isn’t surprising considering his asthma level and meds. The dog leaves Saturday afternoon…being returned to the shelter we got her from three years ago as a small puppy. The cat is in the works as soon as we can reach DH’s niece to arrange the hand-off. DH will be looking into what wood stuff he wants for Son’s room floor. Here’s the Big One…DH and I have Rx’s for Zyban (and for me the patch too since I’ve been smoking for over 20 years). — Sally Avery

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Glad to see I’m not alone on this. True, even adults don’t like to take meds all the time…let alone so many and frequently. Why should a kid? Regardless how intelligent and responsible he is….DS is still only 12. The Family Dr and the Allergist didn’t lecture him as the Pulmonologist did. Basicially, they let him know they were glad he was out of the hospital and okay now…and hopefully he has learned why needs to take his meds unless he wants to experience a close encounter again. Sally Avery

Hello Sally, My son has been guilty of not taking his meds daily, also. He is 16 and one would think he would be responsible! I always note the day he starts a

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I believe that as he begins to take his meds as he should, eventually we may be able to cut some things down….hopefully. Thanks for the message. It helps to know others have same problems. Sally Aver

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The most important part is your not smoking. Hard! Hard! Hard! to do and I wish only you the best and may your willpower be strong enough to overcome the addiction. I was very happy 19 years ago when I quit cold turkey. I had a nightmare about being in a hospital and the Doc telling me I had emphysema. I woke the next day and have not smoked since, however; this last year my doc made my dream come true (50% FEV1). I feel that by quitting when I did at 33 that I am much better off with my lungs that had I not. Good Luck and keep the faith!!! Tim Washington State

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I took my 12 yr old son to an appointment with a Pulmonologist yesterday. As of the one visit, I liked her no-nonsense attitude. After reviewing his breathing tests, current meds and recent breathing tests from the Allergist’s office, she flat out told my Son she didn’t trust his age group as they tend to lie about taking their meds. Turns out she was right on the money. He’s only been taking the Serevent and Pulmicort about half the time, although he does take the Singulair and allergy meds as he should. She gave him a good lecture about what being on Prednisone too often would do for him, that he’s already a severe asthmatic and isn’t doing himself any good, etc. He didn’t deny it and finally admitted it. Seems for 113% effort, his bottom line was only 70%. She let him know that the meds he’s on should be working great for him. Feels that if he takes it all as he should then next winter he should be able to participate in ski club like he wanted to this year. At least there’s no flying allergens on a snow-covered slope!!! The only changes she made to his meds were she ordered him to take him in front of us parents each time, to stay on the nebulized Albuterol for another two weeks, and added Zantac to work along with the Prilosec for his stomach. Today he saw the Family Dr and tomorrow he sees the Allergist. Within the next few weeks he’ll be seeing a Pediatric Gastro since it’s pretty much felt he has GERD…which isn’t surprising considering his asthma level and meds. The dog leaves Saturday afternoon…being returned to the shelter we got her from three years ago as a small puppy. The cat is in the works as soon as we can reach DH’s niece to arrange the hand-off. DH will be looking into what wood stuff he wants for Son’s room floor. Here’s the Big One…DH and I have Rx’s for Zyban (and for me the patch too since I’ve been smoking for over 20 years). — Sally Avery

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Hello Sally, My son has been guilty of not taking his meds daily, also. He is 16 and one would think he would be responsible!

You do have to watch these kids.When they have something chronic like asthma, I think they just want to try and ignore it sometimes. My son was like that . I put my daughter’s meds out for her even though she is 16 so she can’t "forget". The scary thing is I have to watch to see that she doesn’t decide to take an extra dose of something when she feels she isn’t getting relief. This has happened before(luckily not harmful) and I never would have dreamed she would be so careless. Hopefully now she does understand the seriousness of this.

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I took my 12 yr old son to an appointment with a Pulmonologist yesterday. As of the one visit, I liked her no-nonsense attitude. After reviewing his breathing tests, current meds and recent breathing tests from the Allergist’s office, she flat out told my Son she didn’t trust his age group as they tend to lie about taking their meds. Turns out she was right on the money. He’s only been taking the Serevent and Pulmicort about half the time, although he does take the Singulair and allergy meds as he should. She gave him a good lecture about what being on Prednisone too often would do for him, that he’s already a severe asthmatic and isn’t doing himself any good, etc. He didn’t deny it and finally admitted it. Seems for 113% effort, his bottom line was only 70%. She let him know that the meds he’s on should be working great for him. Feels that if he takes it all as he should then next winter he should be able to participate in ski club like he wanted to this year. At least there’s no flying allergens on a snow-covered slope!!! The only changes she made to his meds were she ordered him to take him in front of us parents each time, to stay on the nebulized Albuterol for another two weeks, and added Zantac to work along with the Prilosec for his stomach. Today he saw the Family Dr and tomorrow he sees the Allergist. Within the next few weeks he’ll be seeing a Pediatric Gastro since it’s pretty much felt he has GERD…which isn’t surprising considering his asthma level and meds. The dog leaves Saturday afternoon…being returned to the shelter we got her from three years ago as a small puppy. The cat is in the works as soon as we can reach DH’s niece to arrange the hand-off. DH will be looking into what wood stuff he wants for Son’s room floor. Here’s the Big One…DH and I have Rx’s for Zyban (and for me the patch too since I’ve been smoking for over 20 years). — Sally Avery

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Hello Sally, My son has been guilty of not taking his meds daily, also. He is 16 and one would think he would be responsible! I always note the day he starts a new inhaler and if it isn’t pretty much empty when it should be, then I know he’s not been taking his meds. His doctor is very good about discussing the need for taking meds on a regular basis. I think part of the problem is that since his asthma is in good control (the good part) he tends to ignore the importance of preventative meds. Good luck in your campaign to quit smoking! It’s a tough battle (I quit in 1998) but well worth it! Patrice

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Singulair And Flovent » Singulair, advice please

Singulair, advice please

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Hey, Yep im in the last group too!! Seeya

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Re: singulair… Antecodal evidence in this group is: 1/3 of the people who tried it: Vast improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: Modest improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: No effects whatsoever (I am in this last group)

Yep… Side effects seem to be are and limited to aches in joints.

*HOWEVER* anecdotal evidence in this group for both Singulair and Accolate indicates that there is a ***very*** small percentage of people who use one of the two who will end up with some severe side effects/adverse reactions — significant drug-induced depression [which completely reverses once the drug has been stopped] being the primary one; also, there have been reports of severe allergic reactions to Singulair and Accolate [I experienced such with Accolate; and was in the 1/3 of those that Accolate did nothing for (well, until the reaction started, then I got much much worse )]. These reactions evidently did not show up or were not reported during the cinical trials… but did start showing up once the drugs were widely released. The FDA is aware of them through their adverse reactions monitoring system, though I am not aware of any warnings or changes in drug inserts to reflect what is now known. However, it must be remembered that these reactions are probably downright RARE. But they can and have happened. SW.

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My son has recently been prescribed singulair (montelukast sodium). His Consultant says it is a new form of treatment with varying success rates. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with or about singulair that they could pass on? Thanks. Mike

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Antecodal evidence in this group is: 1/3 of the people who tried it: Vast improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: Modest improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: No effects whatsoever (I am in this last group) Side effects seem to be are and limited to aches in joints. Here is a link to the manufacturer’s website: http://www.singulair.com// More information from a pharmacy info site: http://www.druginfonet.com/pi_mfr/ppi/merck/singulai/singulai.htm "Keep looking below surface appearances. Don’t shrink from doing so (just) because you might not like what you find." General Colin Powell

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Prozac Effexor » New meds

New meds

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Although Effexor technically is not an SSRI it is cross tolerant with SSRI’s so switching this way should be no problem. I’ve been told to take 20 mgs of paxil(instead of 40) and to add 37,5mgs of effexor for the next 3 days, then drop the paxil completely and raise the effexor to 75mgs. Does this sound about right? It seems like a fast changeover to me, but I’d rather deal with any side effects and get this change over with quickly myself anyway.

I agree that this may be a tad fast but I think it can be done if you are prepared to white-knuckle through some possible temporary side effects. My other question; is the target does of 75 mgs of effexor comparible to the 40 mgs of paxil I’ve been taking?

That is impossible to say as our reactions to meds are so personal. 75 mg of Effexor sound OK to me and if after a few weeks you feel it doesn’t work well enough you can always raise the dose a bit more. My xanax has been switched from 2x .5mg per day to 1x 1mg xanax XR per day. Hopefully it will stop me feeling like a yo-yo, I may need to ask for a dose increase I think.

I think so too considering the AD change. I take Xanax XR and IMO it is far preferable to *normal* Xanax. No rollercoatser effect anymore but a comparatively very smooth ride. Any thoughts/comments about this change in meds?

No ) Keep us posted! Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Ok, so my doctor agreed to try another SSRI, but she wanted me to wean off Paxil first! Told her I could wean off one and wean onto another at the same time, but she was dubious about that so I asked her to look it up and ask around… now she agrees. She has prescribed Effexor. I’ve been told to take 20mgs of paxil(instead of 40) and to add 37,5mgs of effexor for the next 3 days, then drop the paxil completely and raise the effexor to 75mgs. Does this sound about right? It seems like a fast changeover to me, but I’d rather deal with any side effects and get this change over with quickly myself anyway. My other question; is the target does of 75 mgs of effexor comparible to the 40 mgs of paxil I’ve been taking? My xanax has been switched from 2x .5mg per day to 1x 1mg xanax XR per day. Hopefully it will stop me feeling like a yo-yo, I may need to ask for a dose increase I think. I’ll soon find out, considering the other med change! : ) Any thoughts/comments about this change in meds? I mean to start the changeover tommorow… Vashti

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From what you say above, and below, Vashti, it doesn’t seem like she has a good grip on these medications, but at least is open minded. Both frustrating and refreshing at the same time!

well could be dangerous to be less savy about things one prescribes Yes, I think it’s far too fast and large a drop in Paxil,

I concur My biggest concern would be that sudden drop of Paxil from 40 to 20, with a "starter" dose of Effexor ( 37.5 mg ) to take the place of 20 mg of Paxil? I don’t think so!!

nope best off dropping paxil by 5mg a day per week until off Remember, they may be very slight, if much at all. So much depends on how ‘you’ react, not how some others have.

true 150 mg of Effexor to 40 mg of Paxil??

or more since paxil is up to 17 times more potent at the synapse then prozac effexor hits multiple sites at higher doses and is basicaly serotonergic at lower ones so a sliding conversion may not be too bad-as a phenethylamine compound it excerts reuptake inhibition on serotonin first noradrenaline second and weakly dopaminergic thirdly so in some ways in works like a tca but in reverse where the tca hits adrenergic sites first serotonin sites second. it would be somewhat difficult to make a comparative dose per dose response due to the different pharmacokinetics and individual responses From what I understand, the XR should work out very well.

yes it would bot Rita and Philip use this med with good success You’re not alone..

Microbes are everywhere

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Venlafaxine Effexor » Meridia TV ad: "limited dependency" Repost

Meridia TV ad: "limited dependency" Repost

Question:

: : Meridia is a seratonin re-uptake inhibitor, not an amphetamine. The drugs are : not related directly, and there is not a "subjective" effect anywhere like : "bennies". Is "bennies" an accepted nick name for benzodiazepines? Best Wishes, Arthur

*Bennies* is a street name for amphetamines in general and more specifically for *benzedrine*. Philip

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Meridia is a seratonin re-uptake inhibitor, not an amphetamine. The drugs are not related directly, and there is not a "subjective" effect anywhere like "bennies". All drugs are scheduled for prescription purposes, it doesn’t mean that if it’s scheduled, it’s going to be addictive. The contraindications are true. I took it for a while and have to give it up due to heart palpatations. Really, don’t blow off so much steam without more information. Respectively Fred

You are right about sibutramine (Meridia) not being an amphetamine, however it’s not just an SSRI per se but a serotonin-norepinephrine, and to a lesser extent, dopamine reuptake inhibitor. Meridia is not a monoamine releasing agent like amphetamine or some amphetamine congeners. The potency of Meridia is said to be 73% norepinephrine, 54% serotonin, and 16% dopamine reuptake inhibition per one study using plasma samples from volunteers. Meridia does share some side effects with venlafaxine (Effexor) due to the potent effect on norepinephrine reuptake, such as sustained BP elevation. Chris

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last night I saw a new one, apparently some new amphetamine to be used for weight loss called "Meridia". The list of contraindications included high BP, (duh), heart disease, anyone taking medications for anxiety (!!!)….all of which makes it pretty useless for me. But here’s where my ears pointed up: "Meridia is a controlled substance, so there may be some limited dependence." or words to that effect, but I’m sure of the phrase "limited dependence". Aha! So,…it’s not "addictive", it has "limited dependence". This should be of interest to all of us who are accused of being "addicted" to benzos. Our clarification (beaten to death in this newsgroup) has hit the big time! E. Brent Price Brent, Really, you have jumped to some pretty naive conclusions from the tv advert. Meridia is a seratonin re-uptake inhibitor, not an amphetamine. The drugs are not related directly, and there is not a "subjective" effect anywhere like "bennies".

I beg to differ as a web search shows that Meridia (sibutramine) is *not* an SSRI and is *not* used for PAD. The manufacturer claims that it increases the amount of dopamine, increases the effect of serotonin and enhances the effect of norepinephrine "thus actually increasing the basal medtabolic rate. This means that with Meridia a patient will actually increase the amount of calories burned while at rest." If there is any link to anti-anxiety meds it’s with the TCA’s and not with the SSRI’s though I take it that this one works in a totally different way than TCA’s do. All drugs are scheduled for prescription purposes, it doesn’t mean that if it’s scheduled, it’s going to be addictive. The contraindications are true. I took it for a while and have to give it up due to heart palpatations.

Did you take it for weight loss or for anxiety, Fred? Really, don’t blow off so much steam without more information. Respectively Fred

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The last couple of years here in the US, there has been a controversial explosion in prescription drug advertisements in the mass media. I mean television ads, slick ads in magazines intended for the general public; not just professional journals. Most of the drugs are for things like hair loss, high BP, acid stomach, etc, and some you can’t hardly figure out what the hell the drug is supposed to be for. They end urging you to contact your doctor, then (talking real fast) run through a list of contraindications. Last night I saw a new one, apparently some new amphetamine to be used for weight loss called "Meridia". The list of contraindications included high BP, (duh), heart disease, anyone taking medications for anxiety (!!!)….all of which makes it pretty useless for me. But here’s where my ears pointed up: "Meridia is a controlled substance, so there may be some limited dependence." or words to that effect, but I’m sure of the phrase "limited dependence". Aha! So,…it’s not "addictive", it has "limited dependence". This should be of interest to all of us who are accused of being "addicted" to benzos. Our clarification (beaten to death in this newsgroup) has hit the big time! E. Brent Price

Well, what a difference a few days make! Last night, an entirely *new* ad for Meridia appeared, totally different pictures, and almost the same voiceover except for this: "Patients who abuse Meridia may become dependent." So, here in the US, anti-drug mania still rules. I can just imagine hoards of stockholders besieging the company with pitchforks and torches demanding an end to selling "addicting drugs". Easy as pie, just make the patient responsible for the "addiction" by "abusing" it. This in a country that considers *any* use of an illegal drug "abuse". Smoke a half of a joint once a month? You are an abuser. Who wants to bet that the therapeutic dosage of Meridia is equivalent to abuse? E. Brent Price

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Hi Brent, Your post is not a duplicate for me. I have seen you post many times and people do respond to your posts!! Maybe like you said lousy server. Lately I am not recieving whole threads, and sometimes I have no idea what people are talking about. I always enjoy your posts. Hopefully you get this one!! Jackie "Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m reposting this because my message already dropped off of my crummy server. Sorry if it’s a duplicate for you. I get a lot of threads that start with "Re:…." and I seldom get responses to my posts. I took it personal at first, but then decided it was either a lousy server exchange or I simply write in such crystal clear logic that nobody has anything to add or argue with. Ya think? Anyway, here’s that post: – The last couple of years here in the US, there has been a controversial explosion in prescription drug advertisements in the mass media. I mean television ads, slick ads in magazines intended for the general public; not just professional journals. Most of the drugs are for things like hair loss, high BP, acid stomach, etc, and some you can’t hardly figure out what the hell the drug is supposed to be for. They end urging you to contact your doctor, then (talking real fast) run through a list of contraindications. Last night I saw a new one, apparently some new amphetamine to be used for weight loss called "Meridia". The list of contraindications included high BP, (duh), heart disease, anyone taking medications for anxiety (!!!)….all of which makes it pretty useless for me. But here’s where my ears pointed up: "Meridia is a controlled substance, so there may be some limited dependence." or words to that effect, but I’m sure of the phrase "limited dependence". Aha! So,…it’s not "addictive", it has "limited dependence". This should be of interest to all of us who are accused of being "addicted" to benzos. Our clarification (beaten to death in this newsgroup) has hit the big time! E. Brent Price

Brent, Really, you have jumped to some pretty naive conclusions from the tv advert. Meridia is a seratonin re-uptake inhibitor, not an amphetamine. The drugs are not related directly, and there is not a "subjective" effect anywhere like "bennies". All drugs are scheduled for prescription purposes, it doesn’t mean that if it’s scheduled, it’s going to be addictive. The contraindications are true. I took it for a while and have to give it up due to heart palpatations. Really, don’t blow off so much steam without more information. Respectively Fred

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I’m reposting this because my message already dropped off of my crummy server. Sorry if it’s a duplicate for you. I get a lot of threads that start with "Re:…." and I seldom get responses to my posts. I took it personal at first, but then decided it was either a lousy server exchange or I simply write in such crystal clear logic that nobody has anything to add or argue with. Ya think? Anyway, here’s that post: – The last couple of years here in the US, there has been a controversial explosion in prescription drug advertisements in the mass media. I mean television ads, slick ads in magazines intended for the general public; not just professional journals. Most of the drugs are for things like hair loss, high BP, acid stomach, etc, and some you can’t hardly figure out what the hell the drug is supposed to be for. They end urging you to contact your doctor, then (talking real fast) run through a list of contraindications. Last night I saw a new one, apparently some new amphetamine to be used for weight loss called "Meridia". The list of contraindications included high BP, (duh), heart disease, anyone taking medications for anxiety (!!!)….all of which makes it pretty useless for me. But here’s where my ears pointed up: "Meridia is a controlled substance, so there may be some limited dependence." or words to that effect, but I’m sure of the phrase "limited dependence". Aha! So,…it’s not "addictive", it has "limited dependence". This should be of interest to all of us who are accused of being "addicted" to benzos. Our clarification (beaten to death in this newsgroup) has hit the big time! E. Brent Price

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Prescription Medication Knowledge Base » Zoloft For Anxiety » Herbal Help for Peri Syptoms?

Herbal Help for Peri Syptoms?

Question:

HomemakerJ wrote:

I thought walnut trees were the ones choked everything else out because of their high whatever (acidity?) so that nothing will grow under them. I know they’re the ones that shed so many leaves you are never done raking them. I’m not sure how people friendly they are if they’re in your own back yard.

Well, actually I was sort of thinking of them being in orchards. Maybe instead of coca in South America. But I don’t know where they grow well. I know we have them in Northern California, but I don’t think I have heard of them growing in dry arid areas (where I think even olive trees can survive). But we have a ‘growing’ market in olive oils – why not in walnut oils (especially if they come in different grades…sounds yuppie enough to me). I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well. But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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On 2 Nov 1998 06:02:10 GMT, hypo…@aol.com (Hypoint) wrote:

I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well. But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood?

It most certainly is in Europe. The wood has beautiful patterns. I think it’s more of a forest tree as they are very big and slow growing. Of course, these days I’d have thought dwarfing/fast growing root stocks would be available if walnuts were considered commercial enough! Bestishes Joanna

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Joanna wrote:

(Hypoint) wrote: I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well. But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood? It most certainly is in Europe. The wood has beautiful patterns. I think it’s more of a forest tree as they are very big and slow growing. Of course, these days I’d have thought dwarfing/fast growing root stocks would be available if walnuts were considered commercial enough! Bestishes

I’ve seen dwarf fruit trees, but I don’t recall ever seeing any dwarf nut trees, but I never really looked. In California, walnut trees could very well increase in value commercially if indeed they provide an oil that is both considered beneficial and able to be produced in various grades. California is experiencing a re-surgence of olive tree plantings and lots of varieties of flavored olive oils are showing up in all sorts of stores. So I wonder what walnut oil could be flavored with? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Valery, I use Natural Progesterone and supplements of Magnesium and Vit B-6 for my strong peri-symptoms. I have used them for the past 2 1/2 years and have been able to use it alone instead of Imatrex for migraines and Xanax and Zoloft for anxiety and depression associated with my peri. Feel free to visit my web site at http://www.expage.com/page/hotflash as well as the Hotflash Bulletin Board, theres lots of great articles there on alternatives. Itchy http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb129876 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Valery wrote:

Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms? Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else? Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately. Took some Valerian compound yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information! Even though reading through it makes me hungry : ) Can’t wait to try the Tapenade! Sounds yummy! Val

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Itchy wrote:

supplements of Magnesium and Vit B-6 for my strong peri-symptoms.

Val, I think a similar post is what triggered my research into the food sources for various supplements. If you search for Chicken using DejaNews you will find a recipe or two for Chicken with Beans that gives you nutritional sources of both Magnesium and B-6. I will also see if I can round up a few more. I feel since we have to eat everyday anyway, we might as well figure out how to do it in a way that nourishes us a little better than if we didn’t put much thought into it. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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The URL Itchy offered up leads to her commercial web site. While she may be posting out of a genuine desire to be helpful, it’s important for folks to know she sells the supplements she uses. Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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Hypoint wrote:

… California is experiencing a re-surgence of olive tree plantings and lots of varieties of flavored olive oils are showing up in all sorts of stores. So I wonder what walnut oil could be flavored with?

The flavored varieties of olive oil usually use the "light" (late pressing?) olive oils, which have so little flavor of their own that they can handle being doctored with garlic, chilis, etc. Flavored olive oils are classic marketing success story: With virgin and extra-virgin olive oil gaining favor in the American market, the olive growers found a way to dress up the "less desirable" "pure" quality oil, call it a specialty product and jack up the price. Walnut oil, like extra-virgin olive oil, has a fairly robust flavor of its own; if you wanted to flavor it, you’d either have to filter the walnut taste out, or add flavors that went well with walnut. Hm. I’ll have to ponder that for a while… –Pat Kight figuring "walnut chocolate oil" is probably right out … kig…@peak.org

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Vlhb002 wrote:

The URL Itchy offered up leads to her commercial web site. While she may be posting out of a genuine desire to be helpful, it’s important for folks to know she sells the supplements she uses.

… and that the "natural progesterone" products, in particular, are the subject of a fair amount of controversy over whether they (a) contain any significant level of progesterone at all and (b) work, except in the sense that placebos sometimes "work." –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org

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I hope someone else can come up with some good non commercial herb websites for Valery, Here is one that mentions scientific studies on Ginkgo biloba . None of the other herbs usually mentioned for menopause are listed in this article. http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter25.htm Herbal medicines, an evidence based look I see Maida Taylor, MD has an article on Black Cohosh http://www.hcrc.org/faqs/c/cohosh.html On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:23:20 -0500, itchy…@postoffice.swbell.net wrote:

Valery, I use Natural Progesterone

Natural Progesterone is a hormone drug and should be considered in consultation with a health professional. It is not an herb or vitamin. For <non commercial

information on Natural Progesterone, otc and/or

prescription, not in any particular order we have: http://www.menopause.org/naturals.htm http://www.menopause-online.com/progestins.htm http://www.pangea.ca/~afi/volxino1/progesterone.html http://www.rxmed.com/monographs/promet.html http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/archives/96-97/97_31e.htm http://www.sma.org/smj/97aug16.htm http://www.cponline.gsm.com/scripts/fullmono/showmono.pl?mononum=562&… http://www.thelancet.com/newlancet/reg/issues/vol350no9070/news_sm35…. http://www.thelancet.com/newlancet/reg/issues/vol351no9111/research12… http://www.fda.gov/cder/approval/index.htm http://www.sciam.com/1998/0698womens/0698leibenbox1.html http://www.medscape.com/Medscape/womens.health/1998/v03.n05/wh5646.pe… http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/taylor/taylor.html http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/wildyam.html And probably many more. My point being there is no reason to consult with itchybaun about the use of this product. ( Medscape and The Lancet interactive require free registration for access) But rather than slogging through those urls, any good menopause book will have information on hormone drugs, including natural progesterone. I recommend Dr. Susan Love’s Hormone book, should be at any public library or now available in paperback. Kathryn droz…@direct.ca

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Karen and Wendy wrote (sort of): walnut oil recipes? Karen wrote:

They are lowcarb recipes, not lowfat. Also, I did get them from the web somewhere, so they are out there. Since I don’t use a free-standing newsreader, I’d have to type them in, and since this is crunch time at work, I’m just not going to do that. I’m too close to an RSI right now. I looked for it at Trader Joe’s today, and didn’t see any, so I’ll check out a health food store in Castro Valley that carries lots of food stuffs. Trader Joe’s now sells lox bits, $2.50 for 8 oz. Perfect for omelets. And for eating out of the pkg.:)

I’ll search for walnut oil recipes. Got my salmon patties at Trader Joe’s today. Also they were demo’ing lox. Didn’t notice the lox bits – will look for them next time. Sounds like a good thing to take to work. Thanks. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can’t remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.]

Remembered it. Karydthopita …. transliterally Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Wendy wrote: Karen wrote:

BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? I can’t recommend a brand, but yes, it’s a common ‘gourmet’ oil.

Have you ever used it?? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Wendy asks:

BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3

Hain has made walnut oil for as long as I can remember. I first bought it in the 60s. It makes a very pleasant mayonnaise. Although it comes from walnuts, it’s very delicately flavored. Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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vlhb002 wrote:

Wendy asks: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3 Hain has made walnut oil for as long as I can remember. I first bought it in the 60s. It makes a very pleasant mayonnaise. Although it comes from walnuts, it’s very delicately flavored.

Thanks, it’s now on my shopping list. Various books recommend it when olive oil would not be appropriate and you want something more flavorful than a canola oil. Also came across a review of a cookbook in my searchings where someone said they were **tired** of all these recipes with olive oil, so I wanted to explore alternatives that would be as beneficial or better in some respects. Yesterday I was musing that walnut oil is probably a nice environmentally friendly crop (like olive oil, obviously). Comes from trees which cleanse the air, probably requiring little fertilization, and no post harvest burning (except that they probably burn branches with their yearly pruning). Do walnut trees only grow in certain types of climates? Does anyone know? I know we have lots of groves in Northern California. Wondering where it might be good to use it as a substitute for butter or margarine in various recipes. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pat Kight wrote:

Hypoint <hypo…@aol.com wrote: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3. [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.] Yes, walnut oil is available in trendy supermarkets and gourmet food departments. Pricey, but delicious. Buy it in small quantities — it goes rancid fairly fast. And it’s not just for sweets — walnut oil is a *great* substitute for olive oil in vinaigrette-type salad dressings! One of my all-time favorite salads is a mixture of really fresh greens dressed with walnut oil and balsamic vinegar and sprinkled with chopped walnuts, diced fresh pears and blue cheese!

Sounds wonderful!! Are pears still in season? This *research project* has certainly affected me. I don’t think I will ever be the same again. I am sitting here eating my salmon patty that I sort of poached in my stir fry of green beans and 3 colors of bell peppers (with lots of garlic). Then I threw in a bunch of my mediterrean olives at the end. It tastes so good. Can’t wait to get Karen’s walnut oil recipes. I love walnuts. And knowing that their fat is good for the brain is great. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Hypoint wrote:

Yesterday I was musing that walnut oil is probably a nice environmentally friendly crop (like olive oil, obviously). Comes from trees which cleanse the air, probably requiring little fertilization, and no post harvest burning

I thought walnut trees were the ones choked everything else out because of their high whatever (acidity?) so that nothing will grow under them. I know they’re the ones that shed so many leaves you are never done raking them. I’m not sure how people friendly they are if they’re in your own back yard. Cool Runnings, HomemakerJ

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Hypoint <hypo…@aol.com

wrote: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3. [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.]

Yes, walnut oil is available in trendy supermarkets and gourmet food departments. Pricey, but delicious. Buy it in small quantities — it goes rancid fairly fast. And it’s not just for sweets — walnut oil is a *great* substitute for olive oil in vinaigrette-type salad dressings! One of my all-time favorite salads is a mixture of really fresh greens dressed with walnut oil and balsamic vinegar and sprinkled with chopped walnuts, diced fresh pears and blue cheese! –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org

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I strongly recommend to NOT TAKE KAVA. I had a severe reaction where my throat closed off. My husband did the heimlach maneuver. The pill was not stuck in my throat, but put my esophagous into spasms about 2 hrs. after I took it. I know of someone else that had the same thing happen. I work with drs. and they have had several cases that arrived in ER. It was also written up in a medical journal. This should be taken off the market.

HELLO FROM NANCY FROM FLORIDA

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I wonder if this is what has caused my husband to have esophagus problems — severe — over the last few months?!!! He started taking kava in July (lots of it) and, since September, has been to several doctors and the emergency room just this week because of this! Thank you! You may have helped diagnosed a major concern in our lives for the last two months! He loves how the kava helps his tension, but maybe there’s an alternative. Thank you so much for posting this information — it might help others, too! n2…@webtv.net wrote in message <1704-363C76F…@newsd-133.iap.bryant.webtv.net

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Karen Kay wrote in message <71ghna$n4…@samba.rahul.net

… Jane Weaver wrote…gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting. The info about gingko makes sense–that’s what it’s for! (To increase blood

flow.) I had read that it would act more like cayenne, increasing the blood flow while at the same time decreasing the clots. Instead, it seemed to bring on the megaclots and also appeared to contribute to the hemmoraging that ensued. I now agree wholeheartedly with vhlb — herbs are no more innocuous than prescription medicine, and need to be treated with the same caution. Medscape’s Women’s Health tends to have up-to-the-minute articles (I think the base site is also listed on vhlb’s links). http://www.medscape.com/Home/Topics/WomensHealth/womenshealth.html

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Val,

Thanks also for all the food information! Even though reading through it makes me hungry : ) Can’t wait to try the Tapenade! Sounds yummy!

That’s the plan. Get yourself a good vitamin / mineral supplement and take it regularly. I like to take the more trendy type at Trader Joe’s or one of the warehouse stores. Normally they have more ’stuff’ in it reflecting recent research. And keep reading the FOOD and RECIPE posts because I’m going to keep pursuing nummy delicious irresistible ways to get the benefits that a lot of the supplements are targeting. BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3. [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.] Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Jane Weaver wrote in message <71g9p4$cm…@autumn.news.rcn.net

… I was taking St. John’s wort, and also tried cranberry, kava kava, and

black

cohesh, as well as some other "menopausal" formulas I ran across. I think the St. John’s wort did help mild mood swings, but gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting

Interesting! My period came about at Day 23 the last time, and started with a flurry of small clots! Usually they start out pretty light and then get into the clot thing in a day or so. And I’ve been taking lots of gingko. And since I’ve been taking Gingko (about 3 months), I’ve had some awfully long periods One lasted 11 days! Thanks for this info.

The most helpful thing I’ve found, though, is really making an extra effort to eat a wide variety of whatever foods are in season, making sure I get plenty of exercise, and taking some supplements just to be sure of enough vitamins — especially chewable calcium (not Tums, which contain things I felt I don’t need).

I know I’m lacking in the water and exercise department. From other posts I’ve read, not drinking enough water is probably a contributing factor to other difficulties.

I try to eat only virgin olive oil, I continue to drink many herbal teas. My favorites are Celestial Seasonings, not the specialty brands, although I experiment with everything. I do think Sleepytime and Emperor’s Choice are the most relaxing, wonderful herbal concoctions I’ve found! I also drink a lot of other Ginseng and green teas and love Royal jelly (especially the Korean variety). Again, I feel they are calming.

Thanks to hubby (who’s a great and very particular cook), we always have virgin olive oil on hand. And herbal and various green teas, too — he’s a tea addict. Thanks for reminding me to make use of what’s readily available! Gosh, I get so caught up in putting out fires and managing crises that I can’t even think of the obvious! I’m going to make an effort to add your suggestions to the daily routine. Will keep you posted, and you do the same — let us know how you’re doing. Val

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Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms? Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else? Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately. Took some Valerian compound yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information! Even though reading through it makes me hungry : ) Can’t wait to try the Tapenade! Sounds yummy! Val

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I was taking St. John’s wort, and also tried cranberry, kava kava, and black cohesh, as well as some other "menopausal" formulas I ran across. I think the St. John’s wort did help mild mood swings, but gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting. I really saw no real improvement with kava kava or black cohesh. When the clots were not huge, cayenne clearly did break them up. Cranberry may have helped. I think oatmeal is the very best thing I’ve found for digestion, or Ralston. With severe symptoms, I found that none of these things worked well, and did finally switch for health reasons to more traditional medicine. The most helpful thing I’ve found, though, is really making an extra effort to eat a wide variety of whatever foods are in season, making sure I get plenty of exercise, and taking some supplements just to be sure of enough vitamins — especially chewable calcium (not Tums, which contain things I felt I don’t need). I felt that it really did make a difference in the moods after just a few weeks (I also try to get 2 cups of 1% milk or equivalent yogurt each day in addition). I also think drinking lots more water than one would think is necessary has been the best dietary change I’ve made (about 8 cups). My skin improved and female discomfort diminished markedly in only about a week after I started the water regimen. I try to eat only virgin olive oil, and if I *really* want butter or margarine, I occasionally whip real unsalted butter with olive oil into a soft spread (or canola oil, if it’s going to go on something with a delicate taste that olive oil could overpower). I continue to drink many herbal teas. My favorites are Celestial Seasonings, not the specialty brands, although I experiment with everything. I do think Sleepytime and Emperor’s Choice are the most relaxing, wonderful herbal concoctions I’ve found! I also drink a lot of other Ginseng and green teas and love Royal jelly (especially the Korean variety). Again, I feel they are calming. Please let us know what you decide to try, and with what results! –Jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Valery wrote in message <71g0cr$…@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com

… Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms? Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else? Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately. Took some Valerian

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yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information! Even though reading through it makes me hungry : ) Can’t wait to try the Tapenade! Sounds yummy! Val

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Valery asked about herbs: This is most emphatically *not* my bailiwick, as my eyes glaze over at the tincture recipes. But I understand from plenty of folks that the "gold standard" for herbal advice on menopause is _Menopausal Years_ by Susun Weed. Weed is quoted extensively in _Dr. Susan Love’s Hormone Book_, and by any number of other health care practitioners. You can find some of Weed’s recommendations echoed in Love’s book, as noted…and in a truly hilarious online article, "Hotter than a Red-Assed Bee," whose URL escapes me at the moment, but there’s a link to it at http://members.tripod.com/menopause/ Probably the most important thing to remember about herbs, as I understand it, is that they’re not necessarily innocuous. It’s a good idea to read carefully and proceed with caution. For further information, see the web site of the American Botanical Council at http://www.herbalgram.org Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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Anyone tried Meridia?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The feedback here is that it works for some people, doesn’t work for a lot of others. As I understand it, Meridia is not at all chemically similar to phen/fen and does not work on the system in a similar manner — the only similarity is that it is prescribed for the same condition, obesity. As for so-called "dangerous side effects," that should be "the suspicion that there might be dangerous side effects," not so far proven in any of the studies, but still generating enormous lawsuits. What there are already lawsuits going after Meridia, too? Tell me you’re kidding, please…

When the ambulance chasers salivating with greed invaded this newsgroup right after the recall, they were looking for people to join class actions for either of the two drugs. Inasmuch as I know someone who joined such a suit "just in case" — even though she had experienced no harm from the phen/fen — I can only assume that they got some Redux users, as well. I don’t know that any suits have been filed, but I know they were trying to get them started. — Truly Donovan reply to truly at lunemere dot com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The feedback here is that it works for some people, doesn’t work for a lot of others. As I understand it, Meridia is not at all chemically similar to phen/fen and does not work on the system in a similar manner — the only similarity is that it is prescribed for the same condition, obesity. As for so-called "dangerous side effects," that should be "the suspicion that there might be dangerous side effects," not so far proven in any of the studies, but still generating enormous lawsuits. What there are already lawsuits going after Meridia, too? Tell me you’re kidding, please… When the ambulance chasers salivating with greed invaded this newsgroup right after the recall, they were looking for people to join class actions for either of the two drugs. Inasmuch as I know someone who joined such a suit "just in case" — even though she had experienced no harm from the phen/fen — I can only assume that they got some Redux users, as well. I don’t know that any suits have been filed, but I know they were trying to get them started.

Oh, so when you were talking about "dangerous side effects" and "enormous lawsuits" above you were talking about fen/Redux, and not Meridia, right? That wasn’t clear to me. As far as I know, the statute of limitations for filing class action suits on behalf of fen/phen "victims" has expired and I know of none that have been filed on time. As to invididual suits, none of them came out in favor of the so-called "victim". To email me, remove the X

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My doctor has suggested I try the prescription Meridia. It is similar to Phen-Fen but without the dangerous side effects. It works at stabilizing metabolism and reducing hunger. His current users lose an average of 4 to 10 lbs. per month depending on if they exercise and diet in addtion to the pills.

I was on it for 6 weeks. Didn’t work worth a damn–in fact, I think I gained a few pounds. My doctor switched me to phentermine, and I’ve been losing approx 10 pounds/month–35 now since May 1. — Steve Dyer

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My doctor has suggested I try the prescription Meridia.

My doctor put me on Meridia 4 weeks ago and so far so good! I’ve lost 15 pounds and found that I feel full without a lot of cravings. I’m also on 1000 calorie diet and trying to exercise on my treadmill 3-4 times a week. I’ve been on 10mg but I’ve been feeling hungry and cravings the last few days so they’ve upped my prescription to 15mg which I’ll fill tomorrow. My major side effect was dry mouth, which has abated somewhat. I had a killer headache on the second day but none since. My blood pressure and heart rate are monitored regularly and haven’t shown any change, but I have always had low blood pressure so I wasn’t too worried about that possibility. I was never on Fen/Phen so I can’t compare Meridia to it. It is definitely nice to feel full without overeating for a change!! Kim 245/230/135 ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com — Crafting Solutions for Computers

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If you give Meridia a try, I recommend having a complete physical before starting and then monitoring your blood pressure and heart rate carefully – perhaps even daily at first! While individual responses vary, mine was not so good. It suppressed my appetite to almost zero (positive!) but heart rate and blood pressure went up a lot. I felt great for the first two days. Then on day three of taking the medication I became so nauseous and light-headed I almost passed out at work and required medical attention. I was taking the recommended starting dose of 10 mg/day. It took three days for my heart rate to return to normal. The effect on my appetite was so dramatic that I am considering trying again at 5 mg dosage or taking 10 mg only every other day or two. — Katie– I never believe anything until it’s been officially denied. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My doctor has suggested I try the prescription Meridia. It is similar to Phen-Fen but without the dangerous side effects. It works at stabilizing metabolism and reducing hunger. His current users lose an average of 4 to 10 lbs. per month depending on if they exercise and diet in addtion to the pills.

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The feedback here is that it works for some people, doesn’t work for a lot of others. As I understand it, Meridia is not at all chemically similar to phen/fen and does not work on the system in a similar manner — the only similarity is that it is prescribed for the same condition, obesity. As for so-called "dangerous side effects," that should be "the suspicion that there might be dangerous side effects," not so far proven in any of the studies, but still generating enormous lawsuits. — Truly Donovan reply to truly at lunemere dot com

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What there are already lawsuits going after Meridia, too? Tell me you’re kidding, please…

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I just went off Meridia after two non-effective months. I had killer PMS while on it too– carbo/salt cravings you wouldn’t believe. My dr attributes this to the weight I already lost– says that my hormones are just working much better now. Well gee thanks hormones. I’ve gained back 7 since they took away the Fen…. and somedays I feel like I’m tottering on the edge of gaining it all back – M.

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As I understand it, Meridia is not at all chemically similar to phen/fen and does not work on the system in a similar manner Meridia (sibutramine) is a chemically a phenethylamine, just like Dexedrine, phentermine, fenfluramine, and Redux. Pharmacologically, it does not work the same way as those drugs; it’s mechanism is almost identical to that of the antidepressant drug Effexor (venlafaxine). Effexor is useless for weight loss (except as an unwanted side effect in a small number of people) and so is Meridia.

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My doctor has suggested I try the prescription Meridia. It is similar to Phen-Fen but without the dangerous side effects. There’s one other difference between Meridia and phen/fen: phen/fen worked, and Meridia doesn’t. Meridia wins on one count, however: it’s more expensive than phen/fen was. I predict that Meridia will be gone within a year, not because of some terrible side effect that’s discovered, but because it simply won’t sell. It doesn’t work any better than placebo.

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Meridia (sibutramine) is a chemically a phenethylamine, just like Dexedrine, phentermine, fenfluramine, and Redux. Pharmacologically, it does not work the same way as those drugs; it’s mechanism is almost identical to that of the antidepressant drug Effexor (venlafaxine). Effexor is useless for weight loss (except as an unwanted side effect in a small number of people) and so is Meridia.

Although I experienced a minor decrease in appetite while taking prozac, from what I understand more people gain weight on it than actually lose weight. Do you know whether Effexor has the same reputation for causing weight gain? If not, perhaps it would be worth a try to see if I’m one of that small number who loses. AB

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I’ve never heard of weight gain with Effexor. A certain percentage of people experience weight loss with it, but the weight loss isn’t very significant. I’ve been wondering lately whether Effexor combined with phentermine might be useful. You could end up with overstimulation, at least theoretically, but it seems like they would potentiate one another. A few years ago, Lilly was going to try to get Prozac indicated for obesity. It does seem to suppress appetite in some people, but the effect is inconsistent, and even when it works, it’s not very dramatic. The world is still waiting for a really effective pharmacotherapy for obesity. Phen/fen really seemed to have been it for a certain number of people, but I wasn’t one of them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Meridia (sibutramine) is a chemically a phenethylamine, just like Dexedrine, phentermine, fenfluramine, and Redux. Pharmacologically, it does not work the same way as those drugs; it’s mechanism is almost identical to that of the antidepressant drug Effexor (venlafaxine). Effexor is useless for weight loss (except as an unwanted side effect in a small number of people) and so is Meridia. Although I experienced a minor decrease in appetite while taking prozac, from what I understand more people gain weight on it than actually lose weight. Do you know whether Effexor has the same reputation for causing weight gain? If not, perhaps it would be worth a try to see if I’m one of that small number who loses. AB

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: I’ve just begun doing web searches for info on Effexor. Having found : anything addressing the combination of the Effexor and Phen yet. Anyone : have any info/ideas? : I haven’t found anything anywhere specifically addressing the combination. : A good place to look for information on stuff like this is MedLine, which : you can get to at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ Okay, thanks. : The chemical name of Effexor is venlafaxine (MedLine refers to drugs by : their chemical names). : I’ve been searching for information on the combination of venlafaxine and : phentermine lately. If I find anything, I’ll be sure to post it. : One possible concern about this combo would definitely be blood pressure. : Effexor, like Meridia (they’re very similar drugs) can cause a sustained : increase in blood pressure. Phentermine can increase blood pressure too, : and should be used with caution where there’s already high blood pressure. : Of course, obesity has its own health risks, and on the balance, the risks : of the drug-induced hypertension may be offset by the benefits of weight : loss. At least, this was the argument that Knoll (makers of Meridia) made : to get their product on the market. Yes, I’m a little worried about this doctor’s attention to health-related side effects – I realized after I left his office that he hadn’t even taken my blood pressure! I’ve been having my blood pressure read every month or so throughout all med changes (phen/fen, phen/pro, etc.), and it’s always been around 110/70, so I’m not terribly worried, but obviously I’m going to have to be the one staying on top of what side effects to be worried about. It’s hard finding a doc who is informed about the brain/body aspects of obesity, knows the meds, the possible side effects, is open-minded (doesn’t prescribe diet/exercise exclusively), knows how to listen, and is a good overall doctor… I just recently got med insurance after doing without (stupid, I know; I kept _meaning_ to get an individual plan, but the cost was offputting) for almost 2 years. So I’m shopping. Julie

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Placebos work for some people; so does Meridia. If it has to be expensive to have that effect, so be it. — Truly Donovan reply to truly at lunemere dot com

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I’ve just begun doing web searches for info on Effexor. Having found anything addressing the combination of the Effexor and Phen yet. Anyone have any info/ideas? I haven’t found anything anywhere specifically addressing the combination. A good place to look for information on stuff like this is MedLine, which you can get to at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ The chemical name of Effexor is venlafaxine (MedLine refers to drugs by their chemical names). I’ve been searching for information on the combination of venlafaxine and phentermine lately. If I find anything, I’ll be sure to post it. One possible concern about this combo would definitely be blood pressure. Effexor, like Meridia (they’re very similar drugs) can cause a sustained increase in blood pressure. Phentermine can increase blood pressure too, and should be used with caution where there’s already high blood pressure. Of course, obesity has its own health risks, and on the balance, the risks of the drug-induced hypertension may be offset by the benefits of weight loss. At least, this was the argument that Knoll (makers of Meridia) made to get their product on the market.

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: I’ve never heard of weight gain with Effexor. A certain percentage of : people experience weight loss with it, but the weight loss isn’t very : significant. I’ve been wondering lately whether Effexor combined with : phentermine might be useful. You could end up with overstimulation, at : least theoretically, but it seems like they would potentiate one another. Funny you should mention this. Just yesterday I saw a new doctor, who seems to be developing a subspecialty in treating weight. I told him my history – success with phen/fen, no success with Meridia or phen/pro or phen/wellbutrin, maintaining with difficulty on phen and 5-HTP. He said that the only combo he’s been having success with has been phentermine and Effexor, so I’m starting that today. Currently 30 mgs phentermine, 37.5 Effexor. I’ve just begun doing web searches for info on Effexor. Having found anything addressing the combination of the Effexor and Phen yet. Anyone have any info/ideas? Julie

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I have been getting killer headaches when I take 15 mg, but not when I take 10 mg. It’s happening consistantly enough that I think it’s related to the dosage. Otherwise, I’ve been really happy with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My doctor has suggested I try the prescription Meridia. My doctor put me on Meridia 4 weeks ago and so far so good! I’ve lost 15 pounds and found that I feel full without a lot of cravings. I’m also on 1000 calorie diet and trying to exercise on my treadmill 3-4 times a week. I’ve been on 10mg but I’ve been feeling hungry and cravings the last few days so they’ve upped my prescription to 15mg which I’ll fill tomorrow. My major side effect was dry mouth, which has abated somewhat. I had a killer headache on the second day but none since. My blood pressure and heart rate are monitored regularly and haven’t shown any change, but I have always had low blood pressure so I wasn’t too worried about that possibility. I was never on Fen/Phen so I can’t compare Meridia to it. It is definitely nice to feel full without overeating for a change!! Kim 245/230/135 ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com — Crafting Solutions for Computers

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Do you know whether Effexor has the same reputation for causing weight gain? If not, perhaps it would be worth a try to see if I’m one of that small number who loses. AB

I gained weiht on both drugs, not as much on Prozac, but quite a bit on Effexor, say 20 pounds over a 6 month period. JaneG

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If they exercise and diet WITHOUT the pills they’ll lose 4 lbs a month. It doesn’t sound like it’s worth it.

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hello all….I have receantly been diagnosed with PD… this is a scary thing!!!!!!! I have been reading this NG for a week or so and seem to relate to many of you. I am studing up on this PD thing and "trying to stay vertical" I am on Zoloft and Xanax as needed. Just saying "Hello I have a problem" is enough to flip me out! Be gentle with me K? J

No problem J. Welcome to ASAP. Most of us are here because we have the same problem you do. It’s really difficult inthe beginning,but it does get better. Curious, do you have depression to? If not, why the Zoloft? Xanax works great for panic without any additional meds. And, with lots less )or no) side effects. Just something you might want to talk to your doc about. Your best bet is to talk topeople who are positive and supportive here. Ignore the flames and trolls. They come and go. Don’t let them get to you. Get the weekly FAQ and also visit lots of the great web sites that are out there. Like Arthur Anderon’s website! It’s one of the best. Educating yourself about this disorder is one of the best things you can do! Feel free to e-mail me if you’d like. Regards, Jen

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HI J!!! Sorry to hear you have become "One of us", but glad you found this NG all the same! Jen really said it best as far as educating yourself about panic/anxiety… The best thing you could do, at least for me anyway, is to read as much as you can. I found what was the scariest of all was the not knowing, the lack of understanding as to what was exactly a panic attack meant, what the terms were, etc. Once I understood what was taking place during an attack, I was able to then try and find ways to cope with them. Of course, I am still searching for ways, but…. I am on the Zoloft also… How are you doing with that? I bet at times you may feel a little lost…Dont get down! You will survive! Oh, and for what its worth.. Know the best thing about panic sufferers? They are probably the most understanding, caring, compassionate folk you will ever come across… What you were seeing, like Jen said, is the trouble makers…. Wishing you the best!! — Miriam (These opinions are mine and mine alone… YMMV) Energizer bunny arrested, charged with battery. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hello all….I have receantly been diagnosed with PD… this is a scary thing!!!!!!! I have been reading this NG for a week or so and seem to relate to many of you. I am studing up on this PD thing and "trying to stay vertical" I am on Zoloft and Xanax as needed. Just saying "Hello I have a problem" is enough to flip me out! Be gentle with me K? J

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Hi, J – welcome to ASAP Glad to hear that you’re getting proper treatment and I hope you find this NG the valuable resource that so many of us have. — Gary Cooper

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JSmittie schreef: hello all….I have receantly been diagnosed with PD… this is a scary thing!!!!!!! I have been reading this NG for a week or so and seem to relate to many of you. I am studing up on this PD thing and "trying to stay vertical" I am on Zoloft and Xanax as needed. Just saying "Hello I have a problem" is enough to flip me out! Be gentle with me K? J

Hi J! Don’t worry. You’ll find much knowledge and support here. It’s a shame that new people should have to worry about posting here these days. The only reason why anybody will not be gentle with someone else here is when this someone else is consciously posting desinformation or writing insulting posts just to disrupt the newsgroup. These people are called *trolls* in Internet lingo and they’re to be found in every newsgroup on Usenet. Don’t worry about them. How long have you been on Zoloft? Does it work for you? It’s often a good idea to take a benzo like Xanax in at least the initial stages of a AD like Zoloft, to let your body adjust itself to it. Hope that you will post more often! Philip

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Hi there! I’ve only been here a little over 2 months, but some of the folks have been here literally for years. So, there’s quite a lot of accumulated wisdom that has been of great help to me. I’m glad to have you here, "fellow newbie". Just ignore the flame threads, delete the whole thread if it bothers you. You’ll do fine. E. Brent Price

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -hello all….I have receantly been diagnosed with PD… this is a scary thing!!!!!!! I have been reading this NG for a week or so and seem to relate to many of you. I am studing up on this PD thing and "trying to stay vertical" I am on Zoloft and Xanax as needed. Just saying "Hello I have a problem" is enough to flip me out! Be gentle with me K? J

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Hi J, I think the more you find out about PD the less you will be afraid…now you have a name for what you have been feeling, when I was diagnosed this summer and had the "names" spelled out for me, I felt a little "nuts", but now I DON’T feel that way. This isn’t some "head thing". For me trying to cope with it on my own was barely tolerable and now I am on the way to developing more appropriate methods of dealing with it. Keep reading and coming to this ng, there’s a lot of good info and support to be found here. Michelle says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -hello all….I have receantly been diagnosed with PD… this is a scary thing!!!!!!! I have been reading this NG for a week or so and seem to relate to many of you. I am studing up on this PD thing and "trying to stay vertical" I am on Zoloft and Xanax as needed. Just saying "Hello I have a problem" is enough to flip me out! Be gentle with me K? J

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Depression associated with allergies/sinusitis???

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Frankly, you’d be nuts if you weren’t depressed by this state of affairs. Ask your doc about antidepressants. Mel Headcat (head…@headcat.com) wrote:

: Does anyone else experience "emotional" symptoms when their : allergies/sinusitis is acting up? I find that I get *extremely* : depressed (low-spirited, hopeless, negative, generally defeated-feeling) : when my allergies kick in. : : I was allergy-free until I turned 40, but after that I started to notice : stuffyness, sneezing, sore throat, etc. whenever I was outdoors for any : length of time. Each year it got a little worse and finally last summer : it seemed to really "blossom" – I had what seemed like a whopper cold : that lasted literally from April through September. I had hoped the : arrival of cold weather would clear things up, but instead it got worse : – the allergy stuffyness/sneezing/etc. eased seamlessly into what was : first diagnosed as bronchitis and later recognized as pneumonia; I spent : November and December in bed and am truly just starting to feel good : again. But the damn allergy stuff is starting all over again! I’ve : learned to stay indoors a lot and that helps, as do antihistamines, etc. : But I seem to notice that in addition to the standard stuff, I also feel : distinctly depressed whenever the allergy thing is in high gear. Has : anyone else noticed this in conjunction with allergies/sinusitis? Or am : I nuts as well as allergic? : : Any input from other allergy sufferers is most gratefully welcomed. This : stuff as me about at my wits end!! The doctors I saw for pneumonia said : the allergies wouldn’t have had anything to do with it, but I find that : hard to believe. Anyone else experienced anything similar? : : R.A. Butters : — Mel Billik in Michigan Remember: if you can keep your head about you when all around you are in a panic … perhaps you don’t totally understand the situation!

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Headcat, Are you taking decongestants when your allergies act up? I find that decongestants of ANY kind make me depressed, and the longer I take them the worse it gets. Clare

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I finally found a psychiatrist who diagnosed my depression and related it to an early start with chronic allergies and sinusitis. I’m now 39 and have had 7 surgeries (maybe 6 – they all blend together). I am also allergic to aspirin and have found that I can’t take Ibuprofen or ANYTHING except 650 mg. of tylenol/acetominophen. H

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, Clare <cl…@iname.com wrote: Headcat, Are you taking decongestants when your allergies act up? I find that decongestants of ANY kind make me depressed, and the longer I take them the worse it gets. Clare

I’d like to echo what Clare said…many decongestants even advise that they can cause negative symptoms…related to nervous irritation or anxiety. COnsistent or excessive use of thiese medications have made me feel "depressed" in the past. I’d sooner irrigate, take papaya, or use very limited amounts of a prescribed spray. (Livostin is my choice.)

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