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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha Daltons, I do not specifically about serotonin.  But… After several years of prednisone use I now have a bone density LOSS of about 35% per Dexascan.  No one knew?? the dangers when I started the drug in 1988. It can change,  mood, body weight (moon face), and other not so good side effects.  Avoid when you can and use very carefully.  According to an Endocrinologist sp?, steroids can affect bone density in one year or less. Mele Kaliki Maka, Merry Christmas to All, Edmund, Kauai, HI I have agressivness/anger/mood problems with prednisone in a major way.  This is the most problematic side effect for me.  :(

Yeah, it can do that too. See PI Precaution: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/pred.htm#sect-Precautions Excerpt: "Precautions: General Precautions The lowest possible dose of corticosteroid should be used to control the condition under treatment, and when reduction in dosage is possible, the reduction should be gradual. Psychic derangements may appear when corticosteroids are used,  ranging from euphoria, insomnia, mood swings, personality  changes, and severe depression, to frank psychotic  manifestations. Also, existing emotional instability or  psychotic tendencies may be aggravated by corticosteroids." I try to stay away from oral steroids like prednisone; have been able to control exacerbations with very high dose inhaled steroids, which is still much less steroid than prednisone, since its targeted to the lungs. So I double, triple, or if necessary quadruple my inhaled steroids during exacerbation (per Action Plan) Note–Oral steroids probably needed for peak flows below 50% of personal best. Ellis

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Aloha Daltons, I do not specifically about serotonin.  But… After several years of prednisone use I now have a bone density LOSS of about 35% per Dexascan.  No one knew?? the dangers when I started the drug in 1988. It can change,  mood, body weight (moon face), and other not so good side effects.  Avoid when you can and use very carefully.  According to an Endocrinologist sp?, steroids can affect bone density in one year or less. Mele Kaliki Maka, Merry Christmas to All, Edmund, Kauai, HI

I have agressivness/anger/mood problems with prednisone in a major way.  This is the most problematic side effect for me.  :(  

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Hi all  :) Anyone know the effect prednisone has on serotonin levels?

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Aloha Daltons, I do not specifically about serotonin.  But… After several years of prednisone use I now have a bone density LOSS of about 35% per Dexascan.  No one knew?? the dangers when I started the drug in 1988. It can change,  mood, body weight (moon face), and other not so good side effects.  Avoid when you can and use very carefully.  According to an Endocrinologist sp?, steroids can affect bone density in one year or less. Mele Kaliki Maka, Merry Christmas to All, Edmund, Kauai, HI

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Anyone know the effect prednisone has on serotonin levels?

I don’t know about serotonin interactions. Here’s a link to PI: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/pred.htm prednisone Excerpts: "Adverse Reactions: Neurological: Increased intracranial pressure with papilledema  (pseudo-tumor cerebri) usually after treatment; Convulsions;  Vertigo; Headache Endocrine: Menstrual irregularities; Development of Cushingoid state; Secondary adrenocortical and pituitary unresponsiveness, particularly in times of stress, as in trauma,  surgery or illness; Suppression of growth in children; Decreased carbohydrate tolerance; Manifestations of latent  diabetes mellitus; Increased requirements for insulin or  oral hypoglycemic agents in diabetics Ophthalmic: Posterior subcapsular cataracts; Increased  intraocular pressure; Glaucoma; Exophthalmos" Copyright 1998 – Mosby Inc. – Mosby’s GenRx Many asthmatics on oral steroids have been able to switch to High Dose inhaled steroids like Pulmicort or Flovent 220, which results in a smaller systemic dose. Ellis

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your statement Serotonin is also essential for the development of an effective Immune Response. Researchers have shown that depletion of Serotonin in animals leads to ImmunoSuppression.

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my statement I also dont trust it because they are claiming immunosupression from Prozac at the same time as it being an antidepresant.  Doesnt anybody know that these two things are practically mutually exclusive.  I say this because I have the following anectdotal experience: when my mothers white blood cell count was below a safe level,  something like <1800  she was extremely fatigued and many people who are diagnosed as depressed are simply fatigued. My conclusion (and leap)- it could be because they dont have enough circulating white blood cells.  Why would you want to immunosupress such a person?

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your response I dont know what your talking about.  What does your mothers situation have to do with this?  Maybe you didnt finish your thought or something.

OK this response is really obnoxious in print.    You indicated you were interested in my point of view..  Im sure you didnt really mean it that way. Let me spell it out a little more clearly.  My mom was immune suppressed to the point where she practically had to live in a bubble.  I have personal experience with what happens in such a situation.  Anything below WBC of 2200 is considered hazardous.  The number one way she could tell the status of her WBC was by how much she was sleeping.  My personal observations lead me to conclude that there is a direct link bewteen WBC and fatigue.  Call it anemia of the immune cells instead of the RBCs.  Many MS;rs complain of fatigue as a problem.  Many MS’er are prescribed antidepressants because of fatigue.  I have made an association that I think is valid. I dont see anything wrong with my conclusion just like you dont see anything wrong with yours. Celeste

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>> news:hMWdndeR5cWKt8bfRVn-2A@adelphia.com… >>>I guess that one of the reasons I do not trust it is that I dont buy the >>>Freunds adjuvant anymore.  Not since the Glasgow write up 2 years ago >>>which opened –  Just because it is common and popular does not make it >>>right. They proceded to show that EAE was more than likely a rabies >>>model..  That sort of explains the bad results everytime mice are cured >>>but the cure does not work in people. >>> I also dont trust it because Prozac seems to be drug in search of other >>> uses.  I think the makers are looking for a way to get the enitre >>> population of the world on their pill for one reason or another.  It >>> seems like about once a month there is another reason to take the drug. >>> I am very suspicious about the funding and wether ot not it is a >>> marketing ploy from the manufacturer. >> There is no manufacturer.  Its a generic.  Anyone can make it.  Even you. > New patents can be issued for new applications and formulations of old > products, Rob.   :-)

Why bother once its already gone generic?  Or can the original company force its generic status to be removed? Rob

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<SNIP your statement Serotonin is also essential for the development of an effective Immune Response. Researchers have shown that depletion of Serotonin in animals leads to ImmunoSuppression. <SNIP my statement I also dont trust it because they are claiming immunosupression from Prozac at the same time as it being an antidepresant.  Doesnt anybody know that these two things are practically mutually exclusive.  I say this because I have the following anectdotal experience: when my mothers white blood cell count was below a safe level,  something like <1800  she was extremely fatigued and many people who are diagnosed as depressed are simply fatigued. My conclusion (and leap)- it could be because they dont have enough circulating white blood cells.  Why would you want to immunosupress such a person? <SNIP your response I dont know what your talking about.  What does your mothers situation have to do with this?  Maybe you didnt finish your thought or something. OK this response is really obnoxious in print.    You indicated you were interested in my point of view..  Im sure you didnt really mean it that way. Let me spell it out a little more clearly.  My mom was immune suppressed to the point where she practically had to live in a bubble.  I have personal experience with what happens in such a situation.  Anything below WBC of 2200 is considered hazardous.  The number one way she could tell the status of here WBC was by how much she was sleeping.  My personal observations lead me to conclude that there is a direct link bewteen WBC and fatigue. Call it anemia of the immune cells instead of the RBCs.  I dont see anything wrong with my conclusion just like you dont see anything wrong with yours. Celeste

I dont see anything wrong with your conclusion either.  But I dont understand its relivence.  Im being dense I guess.  No irritation intended. Rob

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"Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net wrote in message news:7ZednT3zEa76-MbfRVn-gw@qcislands.net… "Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com wrote in message news:VrqdnfVWSdUdxMbfRVn-ug@gbronline.com… "Celeste" <celeste…@adelphia.net wrote in message news:hMWdndeR5cWKt8bfRVn-2A@adelphia.com… I guess that one of the reasons I do not trust it is that I dont buy the Freunds adjuvant anymore.  Not since the Glasgow write up 2 years ago which opened –  Just because it is common and popular does not make it right. They proceded to show that EAE was more than likely a rabies model..  That sort of explains the bad results everytime mice are cured but the cure does not work in people. I also dont trust it because Prozac seems to be drug in search of other uses.  I think the makers are looking for a way to get the enitre population of the world on their pill for one reason or another.  It seems like about once a month there is another reason to take the drug. I am very suspicious about the funding and wether ot not it is a marketing ploy from the manufacturer. There is no manufacturer.  Its a generic.  Anyone can make it. Even you. New patents can be issued for new applications and formulations of old products, Rob.   :-) Why bother once its already gone generic?

The laws are very specific, Rob. If I’m first to patent a drug for – let’s say – treatment of depression, then when its patent runs out, I’ll have generic competition from others piggybacking on my (old) patent.   Thing is, my patent protection runs for (in Canada) 20 years, but 12 years of that was already taken up in R&D and clinical testing… and I’d really like 20 years’ profits, thank you very much. Solution? All I have to do is either re-patent the drug for treating some other disorder (this is how most MS drugs came to be, but it’s extremely expensive,) or re-*package* the drug in a new delivery vehicle – say, a sustained-release (SR) tablet – and patent the new formulation… a much easier and cheaper method, since all the safety testing and most of the clinical work have already been done.

Or can the original company force its generic status to be removed?

Not as far as I’m aware…

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>>>>>> news:hMWdndeR5cWKt8bfRVn-2A@adelphia.com… >>>>>>> I guess that one of the reasons I do not trust it is that I dont >>>>>>> buy the Freunds adjuvant anymore.  Not since the Glasgow write up >>>>>>> 2 years ago which opened –  Just because it is common and popular >>>>>>> does not make it right. They proceded to show that EAE was more >>>>>>> than likely a rabies model..  That sort of explains the bad >>>>>>> results everytime mice are cured but the cure does not work in >>>>>>> people. I also dont trust it because Prozac seems to be drug in >>>>>>> search of >>>>>>> other uses.  I think the makers are looking for a way to get the >>>>>>> enitre population of the world on their pill for one reason or >>>>>>> another.  It seems like about once a month there is another >>>>>>> reason to take the drug. I am very suspicious about the funding and >>>>>>> wether ot not it is a marketing ploy from the manufacturer. >>>>>> There is no manufacturer.  Its a generic.  Anyone can make it. >>>>>> Even you. >>>>> New patents can be issued for new applications and formulations of >>>>> old products, Rob.   :-) >>>> Why bother once its already gone generic? >>> The laws are very specific, Rob. >>> If I’m first to patent a drug for – let’s say – treatment of >>> depression, then when its patent runs out, I’ll have generic >>> competition from others piggybacking on my (old) patent.   Thing is, >>> my patent protection runs for (in Canada) 20 years, but 12 years of >>> that was already taken up in R&D and clinical testing… and I’d >>> really like 20 years’ profits, thank you very much. >>> Solution? >>> All I have to do is either re-patent the drug for treating some other >>> disorder (this is how most MS drugs came to be, but it’s extremely >>> expensive,) or re-*package* the drug in a new delivery vehicle – >>> say, a sustained-release (SR) tablet – and patent the new >>> formulation… a much easier and cheaper method, since all the >>> safety testing and most of the clinical work have already been done. >>>> Or can the original >>>> company force its generic status to be removed? >>> Not as far as I’m aware… >> Then Im unsure of your point.  What is it exactly in regard to what >> we are talking about?  Anybody can make Prozac.  Me, you, Joe Blow. Whats >> the problem? > There isn’t one… unless you’re the people who first developed it, or the > as-yet unsuspecting public on which they intend to prey.  :-) > The problem – simply put – is this: > Prozac might (or might not) be of some very tiny bit of help in CNS > immunomodulation.   If it is… even if it isn’t, but stats can be > produced to show that it is often enough in enough people… it can be > patented, tested, approved and marketed for that purpose, and that grants > the patent-holders another patent lifetime for the same old drug.

No.  Its Generic.  It cant go on patent again.

And near the end of that lifetime, if the stats are at all favourable (or can be made to *appear* favourable,) yet another lifetime of patent protection can be garnered by creating an application-specific re-compounding (such as sustained release tablets).

Its already generic.  So no pharm can make money of it, so it will never be researched again.  A good med, lost.

What it all means in the long run is that patent protection can be maintained for exactly as long as new statistics can be generated.

I guess it does mean that.  But it has nothing to do with the generic drug fluoxetine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

Check out Betaseron, which is a patented interferon-beta, patentable only because of the process used to produce it.   It’s a recombinant-dna product almost identical to one manufactured by every single human body on the planet.   It was first approved for MS use in 1993… but when was the inspirational INFb first patented? It wasn’t and it never could be, under the laws of the day.     I’d have to check, but I think it was around 1963 that it was discovered (interferons were first identified and explored in 1957).   Certainly, it was already being explored as a possible anti-cancer agent long before 1980. Back then, it wasn’t legal to patent a natural compound produced by the human body… it was only possible to patent a process by which such a compound could be compounded after extracting it from people, or a process by which it could be partly or wholly synthesized. Now?   Well, it’s almost legal to patent a *person*.   Certainly, it’s possible (though the law has yet to be tested) to patent a single person’s entire genome. Patent law is becoming – literally – nothing but an extension of our stock and commodity markets.   It’s no longer about "intellectual property" and is now about outright "market-share ownership", instead.

I understand wanting to say all this, but not in regard to prozac.  Its a drug that research shows to be better than anything other than Novantrone, which will never be researched again, due to it being a generic.  Strong testament as to the usefullness of being able to patent a product for new uses.  Now, unless some wealthy benefactor feels like paying for it himself, it will never be studied again.  The MS societies are only in it for money. If they werent theyde be studying prozac.  Even a little study.  No, instead they choose to waste our valuable money on investigating the possible benefits of insects toxins. Rob

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"Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net wrote in message news:BsqdnR-SD-jECsHfRVn-2A@qcislands.net… Rob Duncan wrote: "Michael" <muirh…@haidagwaii.net wrote in message news:7ZednT3zEa76-MbfRVn-gw@qcislands.net… "Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com wrote in message news:VrqdnfVWSdUdxMbfRVn-ug@gbronline.com… "Celeste" <celeste…@adelphia.net wrote in message news:hMWdndeR5cWKt8bfRVn-2A@adelphia.com… I guess that one of the reasons I do not trust it is that I dont buy the Freunds adjuvant anymore.  Not since the Glasgow write up 2 years ago which opened –  Just because it is common and popular does not make it right. They proceded to show that EAE was more than likely a rabies model..  That sort of explains the bad results everytime mice are cured but the cure does not work in people. I also dont trust it because Prozac seems to be drug in search of other uses.  I think the makers are looking for a way to get the enitre population of the world on their pill for one reason or another.  It seems like about once a month there is another reason to take the drug. I am very suspicious about the funding and wether ot not it is a marketing ploy from the manufacturer. There is no manufacturer.  Its a generic.  Anyone can make it. Even you. New patents can be issued for new applications and formulations of old products, Rob.   :-) Why bother once its already gone generic? The laws are very specific, Rob. If I’m first to patent a drug for – let’s say – treatment of depression, then when its patent runs out, I’ll have generic competition from others piggybacking on my (old) patent.   Thing is, my patent protection runs for (in Canada) 20 years, but 12 years of that was already taken up in R&D and clinical testing… and I’d really like 20 years’ profits, thank you very much. Solution? All I have to do is either re-patent the drug for treating some other disorder (this is how most MS drugs came to be, but it’s extremely expensive,) or re-*package* the drug in a new delivery vehicle – say, a sustained-release (SR) tablet – and patent the new formulation… a much easier and cheaper method, since all the safety testing and most of the clinical work have already been done. Or can the original company force its generic status to be removed? Not as far as I’m aware… Then Im unsure of your point.  What is it exactly in regard to what we are talking about?  Anybody can make Prozac.  Me, you, Joe Blow. Whats the problem?

There isn’t one… unless you’re the people who first developed it, or the as-yet unsuspecting public on which they intend to prey.  :-) The problem – simply put – is this: Prozac might (or might not) be of some very tiny bit of help in CNS immunomodulation.   If it is… even if it isn’t, but stats can be produced to show that it is often enough in enough people… it can be patented, tested, approved and marketed for that purpose, and that grants the patent-holders another patent lifetime for the same old drug. And near the end of that lifetime, if the stats are at all favourable (or can be made to *appear* favourable,) yet another lifetime of patent protection can be garnered by creating an application-specific re-compounding (such as sustained release tablets). What it all means in the long run is that patent protection can be maintained for exactly as long as new statistics can be generated. Check out Betaseron, which is a patented interferon-beta, patentable only because of the process used to produce it.   It’s a recombinant-dna product almost identical to one manufactured by every single human body on the planet.   It was first approved for MS use in 1993… but when was the inspirational INFb first patented? It wasn’t and it never could be, under the laws of the day.     I’d have to check, but I think it was around 1963 that it was discovered (interferons were first identified and explored in 1957).   Certainly, it was already being explored as a possible anti-cancer agent long before 1980. Back then, it wasn’t legal to patent a natural compound produced by the human body… it was only possible to patent a process by which such a compound could be compounded after extracting it from people, or a process by which it could be partly or wholly synthesized. Now?   Well, it’s almost legal to patent a *person*.   Certainly, it’s possible (though the law has yet to be tested) to patent a single person’s entire genome. Patent law is becoming – literally – nothing but an extension of our stock and commodity markets.   It’s no longer about "intellectual property" and is now about outright "market-share ownership", instead.

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>>>> news:hMWdndeR5cWKt8bfRVn-2A@adelphia.com… >>>>> I guess that one of the reasons I do not trust it is that I dont >>>>> buy the Freunds adjuvant anymore.  Not since the Glasgow write up >>>>> 2 years ago which opened –  Just because it is common and popular >>>>> does not make it right. They proceded to show that EAE was more >>>>> than likely a rabies model..  That sort of explains the bad >>>>> results everytime mice are cured but the cure does not work in >>>>> people. I also dont trust it because Prozac seems to be drug in search >>>>> of >>>>> other uses.  I think the makers are looking for a way to get the >>>>> enitre population of the world on their pill for one reason or >>>>> another.  It seems like about once a month there is another reason >>>>> to take the drug. I am very suspicious about the funding and >>>>> wether ot not it is a marketing ploy from the manufacturer. >>>> There is no manufacturer.  Its a generic.  Anyone can make it. Even >>>> you. >>> New patents can be issued for new applications and formulations of >>> old products, Rob.   :-) >> Why bother once its already gone generic? > The laws are very specific, Rob. > If I’m first to patent a drug for – let’s say – treatment of depression, > then when its patent runs out, I’ll have generic competition from others > piggybacking on my (old) patent.   Thing is, my patent protection runs for > (in Canada) 20 years, but 12 years of that was already taken up in R&D and > clinical testing… and I’d really like 20 years’ profits, thank you very > much. > Solution? > All I have to do is either re-patent the drug for treating some other > disorder (this is how most MS drugs came to be, but it’s extremely > expensive,) or re-*package* the drug in a new delivery vehicle – say, a > sustained-release (SR) tablet – and patent the new formulation… a much > easier and cheaper method, since all the safety testing and most of the > clinical work have already been done. >> Or can the original >> company force its generic status to be removed? > Not as far as I’m aware…

Then Im unsure of your point.  What is it exactly in regard to what we are talking about?  Anybody can make Prozac.  Me, you, Joe Blow.  Whats the problem? Rob

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     To evaluate disease progression, mean values (averages) were determined for all neurologic scores of untreated and treated groups of mice before and after the day treatment was started. Then, the differences between the mean values before and during treatment for the experimental group were calculated.

This sounds like a subjective measurement to me.  Also, there is no indication that this evaluation was done by blinded techs.  Although I would assume so.  The definitve statement would be

     The findings from this animal study show that Fluoxetine can slow down disease progression, reduce the number of inflammatory lesions in the Brain and Spinal Cord, and promote the production of Cytokines such as IL-4 and TGF-

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Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’.  It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag].  Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines.  Amazing how much stuff you can get in there.  :) Chris Owens

I’m laughing! The last time the whole family flew somewhere, I carried all meds in a huge athletic bag. When a security guard stopped me to look through the bag, I just kinda threw it at him and said, "Whatever. It’s all medicine. Knock yourself out." I ignored him and tried to corral the kids. He unzipped it and took a single look. He rolled his eyes and said, "Man, I’m not going through all that. Go ahead." Mary

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I use the Aerogear by the Aerochamber people.  It has an Aerochamber and a Truzone pfm all in a fanny pack.  It is very convenient and also holds about 3 MDI’s.  I can let you know where to get one if you are interested.

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I use the Pulmicort Inhaler (budesonide) this comes with a small spacer.  It measures about an inch square and 3 inches long, expanding to twice its length when used. I find it better than the normal inhaler as it does not effect my throat as the other bectotide did. Steve

Your email address indicates you are in the UK. In the US, Pulmicort is only available as a Turbuhaler (DPI) No spacer is used since it is breath actuated. The best spacer is probably the AeroChamber, a medium size valved device with whistle. For those who want a small spacer for travel, the OptiHaler is very compact, the MDI may be carried in the device. Ellis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret

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I use the Ellipse spacer; both my Serevent and Flovent fit right into it. That and my peak flow both fit into a small handbag quite easily. Great for carry-on to airplanes! C-ko "ambition makes you look very ugly kicking squealing gucci little piggy why don’t you remember my name you runt?" paranoid android — radiohead

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Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky.

I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’.  It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag].  Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines.  Amazing how much stuff you can get in there.  :) Chris Owens

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Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’.  It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag].  Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines.  Amazing how much stuff you can get in there.  :) Chris Owens

 It’s best to carry your spacer, becuase then you can avoid and oral yeast infection.

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When I travel, I pack all my meds, my spacer, and my peak flow meter in an insulated lunch box.  The insulated part was for if they had to sit in the trunk of my car for several hours, like when I’m going home for Christmas break.  So far, I’ve never had any trouble with the inhalers getting too hot or cold, and everything is in one place. janet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret

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Hi I use the Pulmicort Inhaler (budesonide) this comes with a small spacer.  It measures about an inch square and 3 inches long, expanding to twice its length when used. I find it better than the normal inhaler as it does not effect my throat as the other bectotide did. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret

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Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret

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Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret

I have a really nifty spacer. Its no bigger than a ventolin inhaler itself. I can’t get them commercially but they get left as promotional samples at my drugstore. They are made by Boehringer Ingelheim ( in Connecticut ) and are called Inhalation Aids Jerry Freedman,Jr

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:Hi all, :For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you :take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack :it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I do use one and always take mine with me when I travel. mine comes apart into two sections that fit together (like this!)  / /   / /    / a) In that shape they fit into the pocket of a rucksack (30-40L) and sundries likes the inhalers and/or a PFL can fir into the holow. b) It is also a convenient shape for putting into a suitace, and socks can fill the hollow. :Thanks for any suggestions. :Margaret : : : Barry Landy                        Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site                   Email: Remove "nospam" from above Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG

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Singulair, advice please

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Antecodal evidence in this group is: 1/3 of the people who tried it: Vast improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: Modest improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: No effects whatsoever (I am in this last group)

Hey, Yep im in the last group too!! Seeya

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Re: singulair… Antecodal evidence in this group is: 1/3 of the people who tried it: Vast improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: Modest improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: No effects whatsoever (I am in this last group)

Yep… Side effects seem to be are and limited to aches in joints.

*HOWEVER* anecdotal evidence in this group for both Singulair and Accolate indicates that there is a ***very*** small percentage of people who use one of the two who will end up with some severe side effects/adverse reactions — significant drug-induced depression [which completely reverses once the drug has been stopped] being the primary one; also, there have been reports of severe allergic reactions to Singulair and Accolate [I experienced such with Accolate; and was in the 1/3 of those that Accolate did nothing for (well, until the reaction started, then I got much much worse ;-) )].   These reactions evidently did not show up or were not reported during the cinical trials… but did start showing up once the drugs were widely released.  The FDA is aware of them through their adverse reactions monitoring system, though I am not aware of any warnings or changes in drug inserts to reflect what is now known. However, it must be remembered that these reactions are probably downright RARE.  But they can and have happened. SW.

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My son has recently been prescribed singulair (montelukast sodium). His Consultant says it is a new form of treatment with varying success rates. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with or about singulair that they could pass on? Thanks. Mike

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My son has recently been prescribed singulair (montelukast sodium). His Consultant says it is a new form of treatment with varying success rates. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with or about singulair that they could pass on?

Antecodal evidence in this group is: 1/3 of the people who tried it: Vast improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: Modest improvement 1/3 of the people who tried it: No effects whatsoever (I am in this last group) Side effects seem to be are and limited to aches in joints. Here is a link to the manufacturer’s website: http://www.singulair.com// More information from a pharmacy info site: http://www.druginfonet.com/pi_mfr/ppi/merck/singulai/singulai.htm "Keep looking below surface appearances. Don’t shrink from doing so (just) because you might not like what you find."    General Colin Powell

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Effexor question

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Thanks for your reply Doug.  :-)  I’m going to send it to my friend who asked the Effexor question.  So sorry it pooped out on you.  So many meds do that after a while.  {{{{{Doug}}}}} Di

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di Diane, I took Effexor for about a year and found it to be approximately equal to Paxil.  That is, it significantly reduced my overall anxiety level, but couldn’t stop situational panic attacks.  A benzo was necessary to stop or prevent a panic attack.  (I have sp, not pd so I don’t know if a comparison can be made re. the pa’s.) I don’t recall the Effexor dose (either 75 or 150 mg per day), but it had roughly the same effect as my previous 40 mg of Paxil/day.  Since I had an abnormally high no. of side effects both on Paxil and Effexor, my comments in this area probably aren’t worth much to you so I’ll just skip them.  One major negative and it was a dandy:  After 1 year, the Effexor just quit working and I had to go back on Paxil. However, as you already know, if one drug stops working, another in the same category may very well get the job done. Doug

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Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di

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Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di

Hi Di! Pros: blocks PAs Cons: can raise your blood pressure so you have to monitor it on a regular basis; discontinuation syndrome when withdrawaling from the med tends to be more difficult than with most of the SSRIs (Paxil also tends to have a difficult withdrawal syndrome) Chip

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I took effexor for panic/anxiety.  It didn’t do much for me besides the one side effect that I developed on the first day of taking it.  It was a dry cough that wouldn’t stop.  Especially at night.  I stopped taking it after 2 weeks, and still haven’t tried anything else.  Doing much better on my own, but of course there’s those off days.  LIKE TODAY!! S

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do a search on google groups for many more answers than you could possibly read – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di

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Hi, Di, Don’t know anything about Effexor.  Probably one of the only meds I haven’t tried…  Are you thinking of going on it??? smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di

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Effexor (the non-XR variant) did nothing but make me more nervous. As a matter of fact the first few hours after taking effexor were so bad I had to plan when to take it. It also had some other bad side effects too (at least for me). -Doug

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Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA

Hi Diane, I take 225 mgs of Effexor SR. I also take klonazepam, .5 during the day and 1mg at night. I was on Paxil before that and it pooped out. I credit the Effexor with giving me my creativity back. I didn’t have any bad side effects, just slight nausea for a couple of days each time I increased the dose. But it’s worked well for depression and anxiety. The klonazepam helps for the anxiety, but eventually I will probably need less of it. The Effexor would be forever or until it poops out. Regards, kg.

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Anyone taking Effexor?  How do you like it for panic/anxiety?  Any side effects?  You can post positives and negatives.  I don’t mind.  :-)  TIA Hugs, Di

Hi Diane! I take 150mg of Effexor XR daily. It helped me with anxiety/PAs, as well as depression. I had insomnia first few days that I went on it, and a little stomach discomfort, but other than that nothing. It *is* hard, however, to discontinue taking it – you have to wean off *very* slowly and be prepared for some flu-like symptoms and what have been referred to as "brain zaps", but I hear if you take your time weaning off these side effects are much milder or non-existent. I didn’t wean off as slowly as I should have. I went by the drug company’s recommendations, which were *not* helpful! :) HTH! Karen

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Effexor XR has worked like a charm for me.  I started in the third week in June at 37.5mg.  The inital side effects were pretty tough, nausea, dizziness, lack of energy, sweating, and just a general foggy feeling which is hard to describe.  The side effects only lasted about a week and a half and the only real benefit from the starting dose was a mild mood improvement.  I started 75mg in the second week of july, no side effects but within 4 or 5 days I started to notice an improvement and began to get out more regularily with the aid of benzo.  The improvements increased over the next month and with the aid of the odd ativan, I pretty much had my life back and did what I pleased.  I still had some anxiety but it was more uncomfortable than controlling.   By mid september I cut the ativan out completely and realized that I just didn’t need it anymore and haven’t taken one since.  I suggested to my pdoc to up my effexor to 112.5mg to see if it would elimate even the mild and rare anxiety and within a week it did.  Anxiety is sometimes in the back of my mind but its almost like it was before when I didn’t even know what it was.  For the most part, I simply don’t even think about it. I suggest trying it and if the side effects come on strong, stick through it.  Its worth the chance of seeing if it can defeat the anxiety

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Thanks Eros!  My friend will really appreciate this post.  I’m so happy for you that it’s working that well.  :-)  Please take care. Hugs, Di

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Effexor XR has worked like a charm for me.  I started in the third week in June at 37.5mg.  The inital side effects were pretty tough, nausea, dizziness, lack of energy, sweating, and just a general foggy feeling which is hard to describe.  The side effects only lasted about a week and a half and the only real benefit from the starting dose was a mild mood improvement.  I started 75mg in the second week of july, no side effects but within 4 or 5 days I started to notice an improvement and began to get out more regularily with the aid of benzo.  The improvements increased over the next month and with the aid of the odd ativan, I pretty much had my life back and did what I pleased.  I still had some anxiety but it was more uncomfortable than controlling.   By mid september I cut the ativan out completely and realized that I just didn’t need it anymore and haven’t taken one since.  I suggested to my pdoc to up my effexor to 112.5mg to see if it would elimate even the mild and rare anxiety and within a week it did.  Anxiety is sometimes in the back of my mind but its almost like it was before when I didn’t even know what it was.  For the most part, I simply don’t even think about it. I suggest trying it and if the side effects come on strong, stick through it.  Its worth the chance of seeing if it can defeat the anxiety

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I am taking 75mg Effexor with Neurontin and Klonopin. I started out at 37.5 mg of Effexor for a week, then went to 75mg/day. I see my psydoc on May 21, and I am wondering if she will increase the dosage at that time, as I have read that effexor, being a tricyclic, is usually increased to higher dosages than the 75mg that I am presently taking. It seems to work OK,although I still need the klonopin as a back-up (three 1g tablets/day) to keep the anxiety at bay. I would like to hear from any effexor users about dosage increases and what dosage you are taking and if your doc increased the dosages gradually.  Thanks! —

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I am taking 75mg Effexor with Neurontin and Klonopin. I started out at 37.5 mg of Effexor for a week, then went to 75mg/day. I see my psydoc on May 21, and I am wondering if she will increase the dosage at that time, as I have read that effexor, being a tricyclic, is usually increased to higher dosages than the 75mg that I am presently taking. It seems to work OK,although I still need the klonopin as a back-up (three 1g tablets/day) to keep the anxiety at bay. I would like to hear from any effexor users about dosage increases and what dosage you are taking and if your doc increased the dosages gradually.  Thanks!

     I titrated from 75 mg/day to 150 mg/day in a month or so.  You could increase the dose faster than a month (every four days or so), however I had to switch doctors in my case.  By the way, venlafaxine (Effexor) isn’t a tricyclic. Chris

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I started out on 37.5 mg in Feb along with other meds, am now presently up to 300mg a day/ and still need klonapin . I think it will depend on how you adjust with each dose increase.  GOOD LUCK TO U

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi…. insomnia and other side effects….I expected this and have been going SLOWLY…but the lower I go, the worse it seems to be getting….. My doc prescribed 150mg of Effexor to help smooth the transition….I have taken MANY antidepressants in the past few years…..the problem is I gained From what I read, Effexor could either cause gain or loss….anyone have any input on this?  And how effective is it for the anxiety I feel now…which is not much….but will probably grow as I continue to decrease on my meds….. Please email me if possible as I don’t always check this newsgroup….. JOHN NEW JERSEY

Hi John: Well..I have gotten over the "transition" period with Effexor XR. I take 75mg’s a day, and 9mgs a day of Lectopam (a benzodiazepine..like klonipin..but not available in the U.S.) I don’t really see why you need to be taken off the klonipin, especially if you are going on the Effexor. The two have REALLY changed my life around. It took a few weeks alone..after coming off other meds, but a benzodiazepine calms me well while the Effexor XR (which seems to have THE best clincal track record) keeps me level and energized. Plus, I have actually started to lose weight. Unlike the SRI’s, Effexor is an SNRI, and the serotonin seems to balance out the effects of the norepinephrine increase. Plus, I find no real difficulties with fatigue, irritability, insomnia (was only tough at first..but built up from 37,5mgs), and even no reduced libido. If you aren’t on the XR..I would suggest looking into it…plus..if 150mgs is too tough at first..tell your doctor you’d like to start at between 50, and 75mgs. The Canadian monograph for Effexor XR suggests 75mgs once daily appears to be the "optimal"..150mg’s IF needed…higher doses reserved for hospitalized patients. (Which, I can’t understand why docs are precribing 300mg’s of this stuff to some people, not in psychiatric care???) With benzodiazepines you can develop "dependence", but NOT addiction, as plenty of medical research shows. I will send you medical articles if you like to show you the difference. With dependence, all’s that mean’s is you have to withdraw from it "slowly"….but you do not "crave" higher doses..and it too, is a very safe medication. Talk to your doc..and get back to us. Best wishes.. James — God(s), grant me the Senility To forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune To run over the ones I do, And the eyesight To tell the difference. Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country.     —Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, D.C. Neurosis is simply THE human condition; some just haven’t realized it yet. Anon

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Hi…. insomnia and other side effects….I expected this and have been going SLOWLY…but the lower I go, the worse it seems to be getting….. My doc prescribed 150mg of Effexor to help smooth the transition….I have taken MANY antidepressants in the past few years…..the problem is I gained From what I read, Effexor could either cause gain or loss….anyone have any input on this?  And how effective is it for the anxiety I feel now…which is not much….but will probably grow as I continue to decrease on my meds….. Please email me if possible as I don’t always check this newsgroup….. JOHN NEW JERSEY

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Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even

Any chance I could pay this Miss Bruinhilde to pay a visit to a certain male Aussie? <VBEG Jackie

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WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of                   a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about                   to visit a dentist – or who should be – you                   listening  Philip??   :) )

Me? No, of course not! ;) ) < snipped something to get to the *root* of the story <g – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!!  :-( Ian

ROTFL! Could have been a Buster Keaton movie….. Brrrr…. thanks for scaring me ;) ) Philip (LOL) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too  as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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Well Gee Thanks Ian, I’ll keep that horror story in mind when I return to the dentist on Thursday! Meryl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of                   a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about                   to visit a dentist – or who should be – you                   listening  Philip??   :) ) Hi Carmen,  Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over. Meryl, my mother had half her intestines removed a couple of years ago and now has colonoscopies regularly. I haven’t checked, but I’m fairly sure that they use one of the benzos IV to sedate her, and dad tells me that he’s getting worried about how much she is starting to enjoy the experience!!!!! (stand by for the "We told you benzos were addictive" comments from the usual loosers!!) <VBEG As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare. I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!!  :-( Ian I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too  as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen

I’m sure he has. They do tend to get set in their ways. The tricyclic AD I take has a half-life only slightly shorter than the known age of the universe, so it shouldn’t matter when I take it. But I find I do better when I split the dose into three and take 1/3 at about the times I mentioned. Now it may be that its all just my imagination, but it may not all be. Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian

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WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of                   a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about                   to visit a dentist – or who should be – you                   listening  Philip??   :) ) Hi Carmen,  Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over.

Meryl, my mother had half her intestines removed a couple of years ago and now has colonoscopies regularly. I haven’t checked, but I’m fairly sure that they use one of the benzos IV to sedate her, and dad tells me that he’s getting worried about how much she is starting to enjoy the experience!!!!! (stand by for the "We told you benzos were addictive" comments from the usual loosers!!) <VBEG As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare.

I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!!  :-( Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too  as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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Hi Carmen, I don’t think the timing really matters as they are XR. When I switched from 75 mg to 150 mg I was not sure how to use up my 75 mg tablets. Of course my psych was os. I had originally been advised to take 75 mg at night in case I became nauseated. I discussed the extra 75 mg with a friend who is a psych and he suggested 75 mg at night and 75 mg in the morning. Needless to say being the contrary person I am I took the whole 150 mg at night and it works out fine. (I now how 150 mg capsules). I find if I can simplify when I take my medication I am less likely to miss a dose or become confused. Take care, Meryl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie

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Hi Carmen,  Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over. As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare. I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too  as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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That’s right. I have a new prescription that I have not filled yet since I still have some of the 75mg tablets. I don’t know but maybe the new prescription has 150mg tablets but I don’t think so. I would think that when he gets me to 300mg maybe they would be 2 – 150mg tablets.

I see no reason NOT to take the 3-75’s all together. I take the 2 150’s together in the morning. I am so forgetful that I wouldn’t remember to take it later in the day. Besides they are the time release capsules. That would work out just fine. But talk with your doctor first. I just refilled all my pill containers last night. I have one for vitamins too. It looks as if I have a drug shop right in my kitchen!!!! I even bought a plastic container to hold all my bottles for me! lol take care Carmen!,Julie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen

Play it by ear, I’d say. If you can manage that would be great. But if you get *interdose anxiety*you can always take one more dose. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian

if your doc is older then 55 many moons ago it was believed that the timing of medications to approximate some ancient speculated diurnal clock was more effective thus docs rxed the med dosing at various intervals during the day like take 10mg valium at 3pm and an ad 1 hour after-or take the ad before you even put your feet on the floor upon arising etc.. most of this has been debunked over the past 20 years and a few hold out simply to get people to habituate to taking meds at certain times feeling well it can’t hurt to schedule it stringently. LM

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Thanks Meryl, My prescription was really screwed when I got out of the hospital. The filled prescriptions said 1 tablet 4 times a day but the discharge papers said "2" tablets 4 times a day. It was a Friday and the pdoc was out of town so the nurse just said take one and if you need 2 , just take them and she would check on it Monday. Monday came and she called me and said it was suppose to be 2 tablets. BTW, they are .5mg tablets. Anyhow, when I called one day when I had bad panic in the morning and wasn’t sure if I took the 2 tablets I called. She called me back and said " the doctor says that only one of the doses should be for 2 tablets and the rest should be 1 tablet. I told her "the bottle says 2 tablets 4 times a day. She called back again and said she spoke with the doc and he said not to change anything and that I should make an appointment which I did. When I saw him, he increased the Effexor and said he didn’t want to change anything just yet and to take what I have been. I assume he would rather I took less but I already was taking 2 tabs 3 x’s a day. The whole episode threw me into a panic state since I thought I was doing good only taking them 3 times instead of 4. I don’t know how long it takes for my body to go to a withdrawal since I have been taking them now for about 7 weeks. I have an appt with him in 2 weeks and I "assume" he will address the xanax. He had just said to be careful with them as they are "highly addictive". Imagine how I felt when I realized that the dose I was taking was on the high side and I had thought I was doing good with 3 doses. So in essence, he didn’t really "prescribe" any specific amount or times and sort of just said to be careful. I really don’t know what to do.   How often do you take your xanax and when did you start the Effexor? Thanks Meryl Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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I can ask when I talk to him. I do have a dated pill box but it is so full and it’s "separated with AM – Noon- Dinner- and bedtime. I don’t always take lunch pills at 1:00. My husband does help me remeber tho :) , sometimes Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie Carmen -ask your doctor this, ok? Why do you have to split the 225 in 2 doses… Since the Effexor is the time release version, could you take the 225 all at once. This will eliminate the confusion. Now if you cannot find dated pill boxes, you can use a clean egg carton. Label the first egg holder with Mon-am, then the one behind it Mon afternoon. This way you will have a better track of taking your medication. I know it only covers 6 days, but you can tape an extra egg carton holder on the end to make it seven days. I use a dated pill holder for my pills. If I forget then I do not take it but I am a wreck all day long. Let us know how you are doing.love,Julie

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I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian

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I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen

Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian

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Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too  as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie

Carmen -ask your doctor this, ok? Why do you have to split the 225 in 2 doses… Since the Effexor is the time release version, could you take the 225 all at once. This will eliminate the confusion. Now if you cannot find dated pill boxes, you can use a clean egg carton. Label the first egg holder with Mon-am, then the one behind it Mon afternoon. This way you will have a better track of taking your medication. I know it only covers 6 days, but you can tape an extra egg carton holder on the end to make it seven days. I use a dated pill holder for my pills. If I forget then I do not take it but I am a wreck all day long. Let us know how you are doing.love,Julie

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Hi Carmen,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Meryl, My prescription was really screwed when I got out of the hospital. The filled prescriptions said 1 tablet 4 times a day but the discharge papers said "2" tablets 4 times a day. It was a Friday and the pdoc was out of town so the nurse just said take one and if you need 2 , just take them and she would check on it Monday. Monday came and she called me and said it was suppose to be 2 tablets. BTW, they are .5mg tablets. Anyhow, when I called one day when I had bad panic in the morning and wasn’t sure if I took the 2 tablets I called. She called me back and said " the doctor says that only one of the doses should be for 2 tablets and the rest should be 1 tablet. I told her "the bottle says 2 tablets 4 times a day. She called back again and said she spoke with the doc and he said not to change anything and that I should make an appointment which I did. When I saw him, he increased the Effexor and said he didn’t want to change anything just yet and to take what I have been. I assume he would rather I took less but I already was taking 2 tabs 3 x’s a day. The whole episode threw me into a panic state since I thought I was doing good only taking them 3 times instead of 4. I don’t know how long it takes for my body to go to a withdrawal since I have been taking them now for about 7 weeks. I have an appt with him in 2 weeks and I "assume" he will address the xanax. He had just said to be careful with them as they are "highly addictive". Imagine how I felt when I realized that the dose I was taking was on the high side and I had thought I was doing good with 3 doses. So in essence, he didn’t really "prescribe" any specific amount or times and sort of just said to be careful. I really don’t know what to do. How often do you take your xanax and when did you start the Effexor?

I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen

Good luck, Meryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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That’s right. I have a new prescription that I have not filled yet since I still have some of the 75mg tablets. I don’t know but maybe the new prescription has 150mg tablets but I don’t think so. I would think that when he gets me to 300mg maybe they would be 2 – 150mg tablets. I’m just gonna wait till tomorrow to get on track. I took the 2 xanax at 9:45 PM which was good because I hadn’t been able to go beyond 6 hours between doses, sometimes 4 hours. I’m hoping it’s the increased Effexor beginning to help. Anyhow, I guess time will tell. For now I am just grateful to not be shaking and sweating. I’ll speak with the doc tomorrow and find out what to do if I don’t feel like I need one of the doses of xanax. Thanks to all, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie

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CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75.

I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie

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I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total  of 150mgs.  Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie

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My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen

CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie

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Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor.  I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen

Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had  been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med :)  Take care. Jackie

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My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in  the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen

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I have crohn’s and I have been taking propranolol for essential tremor for 3 years now.  I have not noticed any side effects. I assume by your phrase "the opposite of the usual" that you mean constipation as opposed to diarreha.  I have always been constipated so maybe that’s why I don’t notice it. Before you buy.

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Hello, Is anyone taking this besides me? I take it for essential tremors and for the first time in over 20 years my hand writing is readable. There are some side effects with my crohns which are just the opposite of the normal side effects. Thanks, Ricko in KY

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I take it sometimes before performances and have never had any problems. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Is anyone taking this besides me? I take it for essential tremors and for the first time in over 20 years my hand writing is readable. There are some side effects with my crohns which are just the opposite of the normal side effects. Thanks, Ricko in KY I used to take it, but stopped when my intestinal disease became unbearable. Too many pills to take, sick anyway, don’t need anymore pills. —- stevenscott

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Hi All, I’m seeing my PCP about my concerns with Zoloft. I’v been on it for maybe three months now and the only positive thing I can say is that it was a far cry better for me than Wellbutrin. I couldn’t tell if the Zoloft eased the anxiety at the switch or if just stopping the W did it. Now for the problems–obviously not initial side effects. Weight gain and unable to lose it not matter what I do–I’m not in to fads, just a good diet and as much excersize as I can tolerate. I’ve tried low fat, then low carb–all smart and balanced as I don’t want it to be in vain as soon as I start eating normally again. But I get no results. This is chipping away at my self esteem (and this has never happened to me before and I’m in my 40’s). Gritting/clenching my teeth. At first I thought it was recent dental work (crowns) but it is getting to be so severe that it is causing headaches and I can’t chew anything more firm than cooked rice. Meat? Forget it! I have been back to the dentist twice and though I haven’t completely let him off the hook, I think since I notice the teeth clenching all day long, I have to take some responsibility and look into the Zoloft possibility. I have small involuntary twitching in my arms and legs. It’s unnerving–I hate it. I fear parkinsons or something similar though, again, it started after I was on the Zoloft for a few months. Heightened anxiety all of a sudden. I was down to .75mgs daily and now am up to twice that–conciously I think for the teeth clenching–it seems to help a little–but also my entire disposition, mood, all over feel. I have horrible nightmares every nightl. I can not even bring myself to tell you the content. They seem to last for ever and if you consider the worst possible thing that could happen to a parent, that is what I am dealing with almost every night. I seem to sob all night long, though I know dreams are very short. Consequently, I wake up with a horrible yet relieved feeling–but very exhausted. I used to get canker sores as a child. NOT COLD SORES–they are so often confused with one another. My mom took me to many doctors and there was nothing they could do back then–I’m hoping medicine has made some progress in this area. This has to be some of the worst pain I have ever had to endure and they seem to be nonstop–two or three coming on the heels of another two or three just healing. I am guaranteed a canker sore (mine always result from trauma) if I eat chips, crisp french bread, if I bite the inside of my cheek when eating. They last a good 1 1/2 to 2 weeks and I realize that the Zoloft may not be to blame but I like to be informed when I see the doc. I have seen a few studies posted here recently about the teeth clenching. Truly, I don’t know if I benefit at all from the Z. I am taking it for anxiety not depression. If anyone has any suggestions or has heard of any one else with a similar story. Any links to pertinent info also greatly appreciated. Finally, does anyone know how well Buspar seems to be working for GAD-ites. Since it’s not a member of the SSRI family—I read somewhere that pre-existing conditions can be exaserbated–something to do with the dopamine????? Obviously, I need some intelligent help here LOL.

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I have small involuntary twitching in my arms and legs. It’s unnerving–I hate it. I fear parkinsons or something similar though,

Hi.. I see you are in your mid 40s,, just have to ask, are you female?? I have found out that many of my symptoms including my anxiety ( which manifests itself in many ways) are all peri/menopause related… have you checked that out?? it does not matter if you still are regular, your hormones can start fluctuating and cause all kinds of symptoms… just consider it , unless you are male of course! Martha

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Hi All,

Hi Little bear :-) I’m seeing my PCP about my concerns with Zoloft. I’v been on it for maybe three months now and the only positive thing I can say is that it was a far cry better for me than Wellbutrin. I couldn’t tell if the Zoloft eased the anxiety at the switch or if just stopping the W did it. Now for the problems–obviously not initial side effects. Weight gain and unable to lose it not matter what I do–I’m not in to fads, just a good diet and as much excersize as I can tolerate. I’ve tried low fat, then low carb–all smart and balanced as I don’t want it to be in vain as soon as I start eating normally again. But I get no results. This is chipping away at my self esteem (and this has never happened to me before and I’m in my 40’s).

Unfortunately alot of the anti-depressants can cause weight gain. Gritting/clenching my teeth. At first I thought it was recent dental work (crowns) but it is getting to be so severe that it is causing headaches and I can’t chew anything more firm than cooked rice. Meat? Forget it! I have been back to the dentist twice and though I haven’t completely let him off the hook, I think since I notice the teeth clenching all day long, I have to take some responsibility and look into the Zoloft possibility.

You can clench your teeth when your anxious, angry, or in pain. It might be a symptom of your anxiety or perhaps the dental work. A few hours after my sister`s accident I started clenching my teeth. It was causing pain in my temples and at times it was so bad I was close to tears. It seemed the more I focused on the clenching the worse it got. Believe it or not, chewing gum seemed to help me. What does your doctor say when you tell him you can`t eat anything harder than rice? I have small involuntary twitching in my arms and legs. It’s unnerving–I hate it. I fear parkinsons or something similar though, again, it started after I was on the Zoloft for a few months.

Twitching is a very common symptom of anxiety. I have had twitches in my arms and legs, the most annoying place to get a twitch is my eyelids. When I went on Paxil they stopped. Maybe your Zoloft dose is just not enough to relieve your anxiety. I think the only way to find out if it is anxiety or the Zoloft causing these symptoms is to get off of it and see what happens. Heightened anxiety all of a sudden. I was down to .75mgs daily and now am up to twice that–conciously I think for the teeth clenching–it seems to help a little–but also my entire disposition, mood, all over feel.

Has increasing the dose helped with the symptoms and the heightened anxiety? I have horrible nightmares every nightl. I can not even bring myself to tell you the content. They seem to last for ever and if you consider the worst possible thing that could happen to a parent, that is what I am dealing with almost every night. I seem to sob all night long, though I know dreams are very short. Consequently, I wake up with a horrible yet relieved feeling–but very exhausted.

When my anxiety is high for a extended period, I get terrible nightmares. I know what you are going through, I use to be afraid to go to sleep for fear of what I would dream. ((((((Little bear))))) I used to get canker sores as a child. NOT COLD SORES–they are so often confused with one another. My mom took me to many doctors and there was nothing they could do back then–I’m hoping medicine has made some progress in this area. This has to be some of the worst pain I have ever had to endure and they seem to be nonstop–two or three coming on the heels of another two or three just healing. I am guaranteed a canker sore (mine always result from trauma) if I eat chips, crisp french bread, if I bite the inside of my cheek when eating. They last a good 1 1/2 to 2 weeks and

Hmmm, did the jaw clenching start after you started getting canker sores? I would bet that your jaw clenching is related to the cankers, indirectly. You said yourself it is some of the worst pain you have endured You might be clenching due to the pain in your mouth. You should tell your doctor about these sores, he may be able to give you a ointment to help with the inflammation. Avoid citrus fruit, tomato`s and nuts. I also heard that many of the toothpaste we use can cause cankers in sensitive individuals. I realize that the Zoloft may not be to blame but I like to be informed when I see the doc. I have seen a few studies posted here recently about the teeth clenching. Truly, I don’t know if I benefit at all from the Z. I am taking it for anxiety not depression. If anyone has any suggestions or has heard of any one else with a similar story. Any links to pertinent info also greatly appreciated. Finally, does anyone know how well Buspar seems to be working for GAD-ites. Since it’s not a member of the SSRI family—I read somewhere that pre-existing conditions can be exaserbated–something to do with the dopamine????? Obviously, I need some intelligent help here LOL.

Buspar is effective for generalized anxiety disorder, which is what I think you said you have. You don`t suffer from panic attacks, right? I don`t think it would hurt to try the Buspar.

really think for your best interest you should see a psych doctor for diagnosis and treatment. Most MD`s  just don`t have the knowledge to treat anxiety disorders properly. Take care and good luck tomorrow. *Hugs* Jackie

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Effexor…tried it?

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I just learned about this medication and am wondering if any of you here are taking it now.   — Laura Goodwin "Pain is fleeting, glory is forever. Remember: scars are sexy."

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I just learned about this medication and am wondering if any of you here are taking it now.  

     I’m not taking it, but IIRC, it’s an SSRI like med (it’s not precisely like Prozac, Zoloft, or Paxil, but it does inhibit reuptake of seratonin at (presumably different) selected sites) and it’s supposed to be more ‘energizing’ than the other SSRIs.  (That is, the side effects tend not to be sleepiness or fatigue; they tend to be anxiety, etc.) — Everything I needed to know in life I learned in kindergarten.  Like: There is great power in both creation and destruction, but creation focuses power, and destruction disperses it.  This is the superiority of creation.

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Hi, LaLaura:  I take adderal and effexor.  The effexor helps with my motivation and mood swings.  The adderal helps my thought process and energy level.  But I think that the effexor has an impact on my energy level too.  A friend of mine has been taking effexor at 37.5mg three times a day (I take same dose twice a day) and his blood pressure went up.  His ADD dr. is monitoring the blood pressure now before determining whether it’s the effexor raising the pressure, and if it’s not the effexor, then he’ll prescribe a higher dose of effexor. This friend of mine can’t seem to get anything done, and his motivation level even on effexor three times a day is really not good.  However, this is probably because he has underlying emotional issues that he’s not dealing with……As for me, I’m doing really well on the dosage I’m taking. …..There’s so much stuff to do, to think about, to assemble. Oh no, Mr. Bill, I’ve turned into my stuff!!!

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Have been taking Effexor for 3+ years.  It has been the best of all of the antidepressants for me.  None of the SSRIs worked, the Tricyclics had horrendous side effects, and Serzone also had some strange side effects. I started taking it in conjuction with Ritalin, but now take Effexor and Adderall. I do remember that the first few days Effexor was a little rough on my stomach, but those symptoms subsided within a week. Good luck, Lloyd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just learned about this medication and am wondering if any of you here are taking it now. — Laura Goodwin "Pain is fleeting, glory is forever. Remember: scars are sexy."

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I take effexor now and like it much better than the combination of prozac and dexedrine that I was taking before.  No side effects either. Wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, LaLaura:  I take adderal and effexor.  The effexor helps with my motivation and mood swings.  The adderal helps my thought process and energy level. But I think that the effexor has an impact on my energy level too.  A friend of mine has been taking effexor at 37.5mg three times a day (I take same dose twice a day) and his blood pressure went up.  His ADD dr. is monitoring the blood pressure now before determining whether it’s the effexor raising the pressure, and if it’s not the effexor, then he’ll prescribe a higher dose of effexor. This friend of mine can’t seem to get anything done, and his motivation level even on effexor three times a day is really not good.  However, this is probably because he has underlying emotional issues that he’s not dealing with……As for me, I’m doing really well on the dosage I’m taking. …..There’s so much stuff to do, to think about, to assemble. Oh no, Mr. Bill, I’ve turned into my stuff!!!

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Effexor reduces ‘reuptake’ of norepinephirine and dopamine as well as seratonin so it can treat both ADD and depression/anxiety. It even treated my allergies!  Unfortunately, like a strong antihistamine, it caused me so much urinary tract irritation that I had to stop taking it.

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Effexor reduces ‘reuptake’ of norepinephirine and dopamine as well as seratonin so it can treat both ADD and depression/anxiety. It even treated my allergies!  Unfortunately, like a strong antihistamine, it caused me so much urinary tract irritation that I had to stop taking it.

Interesting.   I’m grateful to you and to the other fine people who posted so far.  I’m considering trying effexor, since both rit and dex leave much to be desired in my case. I’m not at all depressed, but I do apparently have temporal lobe as well as frontal lobe dysfunction, which has rendered me virtually handicapped, although I’m a sharp gal in many ways.  For example, petty anxieties paralyze me, but I can be quite bold and effective in a real emergency. I have no sure sense of time or timing, unless I’m dancing.  If music is involved I’m brilliant, but I’m never sure what day of the week it is. An hour can seem like a day, and whole days can zip by in seconds. Whole years vanish from my conciousness, but I’ll never forget some minor incident from my girlhood.  Minor irritations that other people shrug off loom large to me, but things that terrify ordinary people are to me laughably tiny.  In short, I’m out of step with the entire rest of the race of humanity.  I don’t have a different drummer, I’ve got a whole dad-blamed different orchestra. It would not be a problem if people didn’t complain, but alas, much fault has been found with me, and I can’t keep a job to support myself. I would like to be able to provide for myself, at least. — Laura Goodwin "Pain is fleeting, glory is forever. Remember: scars are sexy."

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effexor works for awhile then you feel crappy again. Libido is gone forever on effexor

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effexor works for awhile then you feel crappy again. Libido is gone forever on effexor

     That’s not true.  It *CAN* happen; it can happen with most antidepressants, even those not known for it (some folks have reported sexual side effects from Wellbutrin, which has also shown a significant INCREASE to libido in one experiment), but the only way to know is to try.      Wellbutrin and Serzone are the two noted for having the least sexual-side effects. — Everything I needed to know in life I learned in kindergarten.  Like: There is great power in both creation and destruction, but creation focuses power, and destruction disperses it.  This is the superiority of creation.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Howdy group.  I was just diagnosed with cervical dystonia last week. While I have had symptoms for YEARS all of the doctors I went to either could find nothing wrong or told me to "relax"! I am so happy to find this news group on here.  A big relief.  I did find a fantastic Neurologist who believed me and understood exactly what I was talking about.  We are currently trying a variety of oral medications to see if we can control it.  Of course as all of you know, with these types of medications come side-effects.  After being on one medication for 2 days, my husband said, "you don’t need to be on that, it will make you crazy." I don’t think my husband is understanding what dystonia is all about quite yet.  I am looking for some encouragement and am hoping to find it here. Thanks for letting me get a little bit off my mind…I hope I can be of help to other people here as well. Connie

Welcome to A.S.D., Connie!!!   We are so happy to meet you!  I am hoping that some of our ‘dystonia spouses’ will respond to your husband and his concerns.  We have found that significant others in our lifes often have a hard time watching us go through this process.  Connie, please know that all of us here at the n/g are more than eager to lend a listening ear, commiserate, and even laugh occasionally!!!  Please keep in touch!! TTYS, MB

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Howdy group.  I was just diagnosed with cervical dystonia last week. While I have had symptoms for YEARS all of the doctors I went to either could find nothing wrong or told me to "relax"! I am so happy to find this news group on here.  A big relief.  I did find a fantastic Neurologist who believed me and understood exactly what I was talking about.  We are currently trying a variety of oral medications to see if we can control it.  Of course as all of you know, with these types of medications come side-effects.  After being on one medication for 2 days, my husband said, "you don’t need to be on that, it will make you crazy." I don’t think my husband is understanding what dystonia is all about quite yet.  I am looking for some encouragement and am hoping to find it here. Thanks for letting me get a little bit off my mind…I hope I can be of help to other people here as well. Connie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy group.  I was just diagnosed with cervical dystonia last week. While I have had symptoms for YEARS all of the doctors I went to either could find nothing wrong or told me to "relax"! I am so happy to find this news group on here.  A big relief.  I did find a fantastic Neurologist who believed me and understood exactly what I was talking about.  We are currently trying a variety of oral medications to see if we can control it.  Of course as all of you know, with these types of medications come side-effects.  After being on one medication for 2 days, my husband said, "you don’t need to be on that, it will make you crazy." I don’t think my husband is understanding what dystonia is all about quite yet.  I am looking for some encouragement and am hoping to find it here. Thanks for letting me get a little bit off my mind…I hope I can be of help to other people here as well. Connie Welcome to A.S.D., Connie!!! We are so happy to meet you!  I am hoping that some of our ‘dystonia spouses’ will respond to your husband and his concerns.  We have found that significant others in our lifes often have a hard time watching us go through this process.  Connie, please know that all of us here at the n/g are more than eager to lend a listening ear, commiserate, and even laugh occasionally!!!  Please keep in touch!! TTYS, MB

Ok MB…I have been extremely busy the last month, but i have been lurking:)  so seeing this post I had to reply..Lacking the time to form a newsgroup for us sig/others & spouses i have formed an email chain. anyone who wishs to share in our letters please feel free to email me. It is indeed very hard to not be able to "fix " my wife and make everything ok.  We go through life one day at a time and I try to stay with what I am powerful over and accept what I am powerless to change. Not my words…they come from a 12 step group. but it helps me to cope.it also helps to keep up with the newsgroup and share with you all when I can.  It also makes me feel good to see that this group has helped my wife Aimee where I have not been able to, and I thank you all for that…:) John F

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Howdy group.  I was just diagnosed with cervical dystonia last week. While I have had symptoms for YEARS all of the doctors I went to either could find nothing wrong or told me to "relax"!

Hey I too have been there. After seeing approx. 6 specialists in the varies fields of medicine, I was finally diagonised with ST. I am so happy to find this news group on here.  A big relief.  I did find a fantastic Neurologist who believed me and understood exactly what I was talking about.  We are currently trying a variety of oral medications to see if we can control it.  Of course as all of you know, with these types of medications come side-effects.  After being on one medication for 2 days, my husband said, "you don’t need to be on that, it will make you crazy."

I remember those days indeed. Taking  all kinds of oral medications for approx a 4-6 month timespan to see if any worked, unfortunately in my case none did, but that isn’t too say that you will not have positive results. We share a strange disorder indeed. I don’t think my husband is understanding what dystonia is all about quite yet.  I am looking for some encouragement and am hoping to find it here.

My wife/family/friends also did not, in fact I didn’t, but we all know alot more now : ) Thanks for letting me get a little bit off my mind…I hope I can be of help to other people here as well.

I am sure you will and am happy too meet you. There is an chatline where many people with Dystonia meet every Wednesday night at 9:00pm EST in the channel named #sd. The chatline program is mIRC. If you don’t have it but would like to know where/how to get it, just say so and all the information will be sent too you here. God bless Mark

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The basal ganglia may be like a computer which, if you have dystonia, malfunctions.

Are you trying to tell us that not only do we have dystonia but our brains are running Windows ‘95?! <g (err… nobody from MicroSoft is on here, are they…?) Cathy. —  (—-)                                                     (—-)   "  "         http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~collisoc          "  "

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Howdy group.  I was just diagnosed with cervical dystonia last week. While I have had symptoms for YEARS all of the doctors I went to either could find nothing wrong or told me to "relax"! I am so happy to find this news group on here.  A big relief.  I did find a fantastic Neurologist who believed me and understood exactly what I was talking about.  We are currently trying a variety of oral medications to see if we can control it.  Of course as all of you know, with these types of medications come side-effects. on’t think my husband is understanding what dystonia is all about quite yet.

Dystonia is a disorder of movement.  It is frequently misunderstood  by the public and misdiagnosed by the medical profession because  of its complexity.  It is a syndrome of sustained muscle contractions frequently causing twisting and repetitive movements or abnormal  postures.  The cause of these abnormal postures is thought to be  problems in the area of the brain known as the basal ganglia.  Messages to initiate the correct muscle contractions required for specific movements are thought to original in this region.   The basal ganglia may be like a computer which, if you have dystonia, malfunctions. There are no laboratory tests which can confirm the diagnosis of dystonia.  The diagnosis is made on the basis of clinical neurological history and examination. Thanks for letting me get a little bit off my mind…I hope I can be of help to other people here as well. Connie

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A small correction using the computer industry lingo is that our "Operating System" has a small bug that causes intermittent failures of the computer itself.  Consequently, a number of highly paid researchers (Systems Analysts) are attempting to debug the system but so far have not been successful.  We may need to hire more competent personnel. Larry Barlar

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Are you trying to tell us that not only do we have dystonia but our brains are running Windows ‘95?! <g That’s a 32 bit application :) MB

Hey Larry!  You catch that?!  The gal’s getting smart on us! <g Cathy. —  (—-)                                                     (—-)   "  "         http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~collisoc          "  "

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I am so happy to find this place on the internet–I was diagnosed with dystonia in the upper extremities and essential tremor of the head 2 years ago. It has been a struggle to finally get a diagnosis and even more of a struggle to find out more about it. Thank goodness I stumbled upon this newsgroup. I would like to exchange e-mail with anyone who feels inspired to write and share their experiences with me — I have felt so all alone through all of this. Barbara Zalesny

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The basal ganglia may be like a computer which, if you have dystonia, malfunctions. Are you trying to tell us that not only do we have dystonia but our brains are running Windows ‘95?! <g (err… nobody from MicroSoft is on here, are they…?) Cathy.

That’s a 32 bit application :) MB

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