My wife and I moved to Grande Prairie, Alberta, a year ago. We came here from Prince Edward Island. She is an American from Illinois. Since we got here, she has had increasing problems with her asthma, to the point that she is now being monitored and on a whole raft of medications, using sidestream, the whole nine yards. My question is this; Is there any place in Alberta that is safe to live, or does the whole province pose a health risk to asthma sufferers. If we can find relief further south, then we are willing to look at that option. Mike Nantau
Moving anywhere can usually be counted on to introduce the asthma sufferer to new triggers. As usual it takes a while to get accustomed to them. Hang in there. — Murray Stone phone: (403) 486-5146 fax: (403) 483-7791 snailmail: 616-21, 10405 Jasper Avenue Edmonton, AB, T5J 3S2 Canada
South is not good. Here in Calgary asthma is pretty common. Mine has gotten worse since moving here…but it is a beautiful city and I am not leaving. I never had any problems in Grande Prairie with my asthma. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I moved to Grande Prairie, Alberta, a year ago. We came here from Prince Edward Island. She is an American from Illinois. Since we got here, she has had increasing problems with her asthma, to the point that she is now being monitored and on a whole raft of medications, using sidestream, the whole nine yards. My question is this; Is there any place in Alberta that is safe to live, or does the whole province pose a health risk to asthma sufferers. If we can find relief further south, then we are willing to look at that option. Mike Nantau
South is not good. Here in Calgary asthma is pretty common. Mine has gotten worse since moving here…but it is a beautiful city and I am not leaving. I never had any problems in Grande Prairie with my asthma.
Hi, My asthma also seems to be a lot worse since I moved here to Calgary from Ottawa 10 months ago. However, I also love it and am not planning on leaving. I thought that the dryness (Ottawa is VERY humid) would improve my allergies and asthma, but it seems to have made me more sensitive. I’ve been to emerg 5 times since I’ve been here, but 4 of those times were prolonged exposure to a cat and the last one was the result of what I *think* is bronchitis (I’ve been coughing for 2 weeks!) So, I guess these weren’t speciically due to living in Alberta. I have noticed that the respiratory therapists seem a bit behind here in terms of medication. Each time I have been to emerg (at 3 different hospitals) and they ask me what I’m taking I show them my Maxair which I take along with Beclefort. In each case they had never heard of Maxair before. I thought that was kind of strange because it came out in Ontario about 6 months ago. I find Maxair to be wonderful, literally instant relief. Any suggestions on how to cure this bronchitis? My gp put me on antibiotics 2 days ago but it doesn’t seem to be going away. I’m having trouble sleeping because whenever I lie down I have a huge coughing fit. The Maxair doesn’t stop the cough or the congested feeling. I took an expectorand cough syrup – but stopped when I started on the antibiotics. Should I go back on the cough syrup too? Everyone in my office is buying me halls and bringing me water – very embarassing. Thanks for any advice. Alyssa PS – I tried Flovent and it made me cough even harder.
I was wondering if anyone could help me. My best friend has asthma, and got it as a reaction to the whooping cough vaccine when he was 3. His doctors put him on steroids when he was 16, which really messed up his metabolism. He is currently on Flovent and Berotec. He has been overweight ever since. This situation, besides other factors, is really getting him down. I don’t have asthma, and don’t have this weight problem. Can anyone give any hints as to how to support him? I want to be his friend, but it gets difficult at times to understand his feeling so worthless when he is such a nice guy. I appreciate any comments!! Lisa L.
Lisa Sometimes, it’s hard for us asthmatics to cope with the condition – it seems so unjust that we can’t control our breathing, something which is so fundamental, and something which other people take for granted. What doesn’t help is that some people find asthma funny – I’ve lost count of the times people have started laughing because I needed to use my inhaler in public. Honestly, you’d think I was about to relieve myself in the street, the way some people looked at me !! I don’t let it upset me now – the inhaler’s there for my benefit, not their entertainment. As I put it in a previous posting: DON’T LET OTHER IGNORANT BASTARDS CONTROL YOUR LIFE BY MAKING YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE OR EMBARASSED ABOUT IT.
If they can’t accept that I am an asthmatic, and that I have to use regular meds to stabilise my condition, that’s their problem, not mine. I can sympathise with him about being overweight – my asthma is mainly exercise-induced, and I’ve never found a conventional or alternative treatment (breathing exercises included !) that can keep it under decent control whilst exercising. How to support him ? * Try to learn more about the condition, and treatments available. By posting here, you’ve made a good start. The FAQ’s were posted earlier this week, so you should have copies. If not, see the HTML version at http://www.radix.net/~mwg/asthma-gen.html * Don’t wrap him up in cotton wool !!! Most us don’t want sympathy, we just want to be better understood. * Don’t make an issue of his weight. That’s the worst thing you can do. My folks do that, even though they know the difficulties I have with exercise, and it is SO annoying ! * Be there for him when he’s feeling down. Let him know that you care – don’t assume that he knows that. Being unable to breathe can be extremely distressing, if he has an attack while you’re around, try to help him stay calm. Obviously, I can’t provide any medical advice, but it may be worth asking your own doctor for more information on the condition generally – that way, you might have a better idea of what he’s going through. It sounds like you really do care about your friend, especially as you’re making an effort to try to understand his condition. I hope that what I’ve said, and what I’m sure that other people will say, will be of some use to you. Feel free to mail me if you’ve got any further questions. Good luck ! Chris — Chris King | Advice given here should NOT be used as a substitute
I was wondering if anyone could help me. My best friend has asthma, and got it as a reaction to the whooping cough vaccine when he was 3. His doctors put him on steroids when he was 16, which really messed up his metabolism. He is currently on Flovent and Berotec. He has been overweight ever since. This situation, besides other factors, is really getting him down. I don’t have asthma, and don’t have this weight problem. Can anyone give any hints as to how to support him? I want to be his friend, but it gets difficult at times to understand his feeling so worthless when he is such a nice guy. I appreciate any comments!! Lisa L.
I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly
Maybe one of these days this info will get incorporated into the FAQ. Singulair and Accolate have a pattern of beneficial response where VERY APPROXIMATELY 1/3 of users expereince a strong, positve response; 1/3 of users get a mild benefit; and 1/3 of users derive NO BENEFIT at all. IT takes a month or two to distinguish between the second and third groups.
Hi Kelly, I have felt exactly the same about Singulair. I have been on it now for about 1 year but have not noticed any improvement with it at all. I am still on Prednisolone 20mg, Theophylline 300mg x2, Fluticasone 1000mcg x2, Serevent 50mcg and 100mcg, Atrovent 40mg x2 and Ventolin 200mg x4 everyday. Why is it that Sigulair seems to be the saviour for some, and a waste of time for others like us? Maybe some others out there will know the answer to that. Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly
Singulair is ususally prescribed for those with mild to moderate asthma. an expert on asthma but I’m surprised that your symptoms are so servere after a year of treatment! Has your doctor changed your meds during that time or suggested other forms of therapy?
I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair??
Not a wonderful success but I would say *some* success. I was on flixotide, atrovent, ventolin, phyllocontin and needing prednisolone about every 3 months. After some difficulties and disruption at work I rapidly went downhill until I was at 6 days per month off work and needing prednisolone every few weeks. The doses I was on of the other things were about the maximum suggested (and about 30+ shots of ventolin per day). In April 1997 my parents went on holiday for a while and I "house sat" for them; playing computer games mainly. I got so involved in one of them I played for 36 hours straight; the only medication I took in that time was ventolin. I felt a lot better. I haven’t touched flixotide or atrovent since; medical advice was that I was looking for a very serious attack anytime soon if I didn’t go back on the medication. I held out. However the medication I *was* on appears to be the "standard" treatment for "brittle asthma" – i.e. very rapid onset (the stuff that may kill on the first attack with a new subject); I *don’t have* rapid onset asthma. The treatment I had had and had been receiving was a "hold over" from the prescription practices of a previous doctor – it had never been explained to me what it was all for and my current doctor had (as I had) assumed it was all o.k. Since I was still at about *two* days off work per month I saw my *new* doctor again; she suggested Singulair (‘cos we’d tried everything else). I’m now down to about 1 day per month on average from asthma related problems. So, I wouldn’t say it was *hugely* succesful; I would say it works reasonably well for me as I have a very slow declining sort of asthma problem and it stabilises my base levels. I’ve now been on Singulair over a year; my energy levels are much more than previously and I don’t have to worry about going out (I know I shall be able to physically cope until I can get back). I have had less ‘flu and bronchitic problems (possibly because I’m not on oral steroids all the time now) and I’m a lot happier with my state generally. It *wasn’t* a quick fix; it’s been very gradual in my case. change demonically challenged to demon in reply; hoping to avoid the spam Rex M F Smith
I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly
I’ve read Singulair has a sucess of 1/3 show dramatic improvement, 1/3 show significant improvement, 1/3 show no improvement. If you show no improvement, you should stop taking it. New studies show it starts to become effective within the 1st 24 hr, if it doesn’t help in 7 days, it probably won’t help. I started Singulair last spring. Initially I got a 10% improvement with peak flow and was happy with it. In the summer I had some exacerbations that dropped peak flows to 50%, and Singulair didn’t seem to help (tho it isn’t supposed to help in exacerbations) I did notice some side effects of tiredness, and was taking every other day. Lately I just stopped taking, may start up again. I use a peak flow meter to monitor lung function and a Action Plan to increase meds when peak flow drops into Yellow Zone. I’ve been using a new steroid inhaler, Pulmicort, since beginning of year. It’s so effective I don’t seem to need Singulair. If you need inhalers 3-4x/day, your asthma is not well controlled. Most asthmatics can control their asthma with inhaled steroids twice a day; and an occasional puff of albuterol less than once/day. (I also use Serevent twice a day) Ellis
I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems.
I tried Accolate and Singulair for two months each. I could have been taking sugar pills, they had no effects whatsoever (but no side effects either). From the reports in the newsgroup about 1/3 of the people who try it get dramatic results, another 1/3 get mild results and the final 1/3 (us) get no results. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly
Kelly, I showed almost immediate results from taking singulair! When you say inhaler, to what medicaiton are you refering. Is it a preventor medication like servent or a reliever med like proventil? You might require a preventor med to stop your asthma from getting out of hand. Are you taking any inhaled steriods such as azmacort or flovent? These are primary meds in preventing asthma since they help to prevent inflamation of the bronchial tubes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly
[Uthur] I’m trying to remember the name of a drug someone told me about a while back. It begins with ‘z’ (in Europe) and is used for treating anxiety. It *might* be a newish one. I’d remember it if I heard it again. Can you help me out please?
Xanax (alprazolam) ? zolpidem? (more a sleeping pil) zopiclon? (more a sleeping pil) Kind regards, Henk J. van Dijk — The charter is available at:
If your depression is due to a seratonin imbalence, yes they can help. If your depression is due to something else, they won’t. Most ssri drugs do have sexual side effects. If you’ve had blood work and your testosterone level is above the midrange, you might try antidepressants for a month or so. If they don’t work for you, try something else. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If your depression is due to a seratonin imbalence, yes they can help. If your depression is due to something else, they won’t. Most ssri drugs do have sexual side effects. If you’ve had blood work and your testosterone level is above the midrange, you might try antidepressants for a month or so. If they don’t work for you, try something else. Mike i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
I had much more severe form of depression and antidepressants helped me to minimize it. I was not even moving…Here are those I took: Amitriptillin, Zoloft,Xanax, Alprazolam…the good about them – they helped me to ALMOST completely defeat depression, but The bad side…they ALMOST competely removed my sex drive…
Saint John’s Wort will lower prolactin levels, unlike other SSRI pills. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job
The first thing you need to do is get "The Testosterone Sydrome" by Dr. Eugene Shippen and read it. Find out what the various tests to check you hormone levels and other health issues are before going to antidepressants. I wasted many years on antidepressants before discovering I had a hormone deficiency. You at least owe it to yourself to CHECK OUT ALL OTHER PHYSICAL PROBLEMS FIRST. The symptoms you describe sound like hypogonadism. I had identical symptoms myself for many many years. I’m surprised I didn’t commit suicide, but I’m extrremely thankful now that I didn’t!
Like everybody else said, it’s vital to have a complete hormone panel, including prolactin, free testosterone, estradiol, and thyroid. If *any* of those are off, it can cause depression, anxiety, lethargy, etc. If you haven’t had a CBC (complete blood count) and lipid profile (cholesterol) have that checked also. They aren’t related to depression, but it’s just good sense. Also a review of your medical history, drug and alcohol use, and family history of medical and psychiatric problems are all useful. The troubleshooting sequence is actually very simple: hormonal problems can cause depression. You can test for hormone problems, so do that first. You can’t test for depression. If hormones are normal, treat as depression. But don’t take an SSRI if you’re concerned about sexual problems, rather try Wellbutrin, Remeron, or Serzone. One possible exception: the brand-new SSRI Lexapro reportedly causes less sexual problems than other SSRIs; don’t know how true this is. Re your title question, ADs can be very helpful. When they work people often report a fog has lifted, black moods gone, energy and vitality restored, can think clearer, etc. Statistically ADs have about a 70% success rate, but that’s *all* ADs combined. IOW you might need to try several different ones — Drs can’t match an AD to your symptoms, it’s just trial and error. But there’s a good chance it will work if your problem is endogenous depression, not hormonal. — Joe D. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
Jim, You are absolutely correct! However, there does appear to be a form of depression unlinked to low testosterone levels. I asked my psychiatrist about that and he agreed. I posted what my psychiatrist said at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypogonadism2. and a fellow member posted that he agreed with that possibility. OR eon
T, Yes, my email addy works…it’s a real one too. Feel free to email me anytime. OR eon
Hi, Before you jump into the deep end of the pool, have you ever gotten your testosterone level? The symptoms of low T include depression, low energy level and loss of the sense of well being. I have been getting testosterone replacement therapy for 10 years and just recently bought a book on the subject that is fabulous. "The Testosterone Syndrome" by Dr. Eugene Shippen, $14.95, Barnes & Noble. It was a surprise T is used by the vital organs and all thru the body. I guess the brain is a vital organ to, right? He says in the preface, "When deficient, it is at the core of disease and early demise". Pretty strong language I thought but then found out why by reading his book. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
i am at the point where i think its time to aproach my gp to discuss some help regards anti depressants.from earlier posts i have seen people recomend not to use ssri,s so i will also talk with him regards these.i was just wondering if these will help my wellbeing for i am extremely depressed and really need some help now.everything is a struggle from getting up in the morns to working to well just everything .so could some one with experience in these things help me out by telling me if they r worth taking as things r getting harder day by day.i cant afford to get much worse or things could fall apart and i really need to keep my job thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me
T, There are four or five anti-depressants with minimal, negative erectile effects. One is Wellbutrin. I had clinical depression and in Oct ‘97 my psychiatrist put me on 150 mg Wellbutrin SR/2x/dy. That did not alleviate depressive symptoms and suicidal ideation seemed to intensify…so December ‘97 he added Lithobid 300 mg/2x/dy. That did it! I’ve been on that combination since then. There was a brief period when depressive symptoms returned…when PCP put me on a diuretic…diuretic was flushing out the lithium and it was easier to eliminate diuretic than find one compatible with lithium. Good luck, Keep us posted as goes it how… Just my experiences…. OR eon
thanks oreon for the reply.not dealing with this to well and have some pretty bad times .dont like facing a life of ad,s but must try something.hope ur doing well.would like to discuss things more with u on a more private level,so i will see if ur mail addy works if thats ok with u.thanks again
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – T, There are four or five anti-depressants with minimal, negative erectile effects. One is Wellbutrin. I had clinical depression and in Oct ‘97 my psychiatrist put me on 150 mg Wellbutrin SR/2x/dy. That did not alleviate depressive symptoms and suicidal ideation seemed to intensify…so December ‘97 he added Lithobid 300 mg/2x/dy. That did it! I’ve been on that combination since then. There was a brief period when depressive symptoms returned…when PCP put me on a diuretic…diuretic was flushing out the lithium and it was easier to eliminate diuretic than find one compatible with lithium. Good luck, Keep us posted as goes it how… Just my experiences…. OR eon
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Janus wrote: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts,
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a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all
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to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. But…but…but… I know for a fact that Dr. Jankovic prescribes stimulant medication to *some* kids with co-morbid TS/ADHD…this proves not only that he "knows nothing about TS", but that he is also EVIL…pure EVIL… I say we burn him.
http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/neurol/jankovic/biography.htm Biography: Professor of Neurology, Director, Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic, Department of Neurology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas After receiving his M.D. degree in 1973, Dr. Jankovic completed medicine internship at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. He obtained his neurological training at the Neurological Institute (NI), Columbia University, New York City, where he served as the Chief Resident until 1977. While at the NI he became interested in movement disorders and obtained additional training with Stanley Fahn, M.D. In 1977 he joined the faculty of Baylor College of Medicine and established the Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic (PDCMDC). Dr. Jankovic was promoted to a full professor of Neurology and a senior attending at The Methodist Hospital in 1988. In 1992, the National Parkinson Foundation recognized the PDCMDC as a "Center of Excellence" and in 2001 the Huntington Disease Society of America recognized the PDCMDC as "HDSA Center of Excellence". Dr. Jankovic has conducted numerous clinical trials and has published over 600 original articles and chapters. He has edited or co-edited 20 books and volumes including standard textbooks such as Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders and Surgery of Movement Disorders. In addition to Parkinson disease and related disorders, these publications have covered tremors, dystonia, Tourette syndrome, Huntington disease, myoclonus, tardive dyskinesia, restless legs syndrome, paroxysmal dyskinesias, various neurodegenerative disorders, and surgical and experimental therapeutics of movement disorders. Dr. Jankovic is an editor of several on-line books and journals including Neurology in Clinical Practice. He has also served on the editorial boards of Neurology, Movement Disorders, Journal of Neurology Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Neurobase, Acta Neurologica Scandinavica, Clinical Neuropharmacology and other journals. Dr. Jankovic is past president of the international Movement Disorder Society and of the Houston Neurological Society. Certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology (ABPN), he has been an examiner for the ABPN and for the American Board of Neurological Surgeons. He is a fellow of the American Academy of Neurology (AAN), and active member of the American Neurological Association, Society for Neuroscience, Parkinson Study Group, Tourette Syndrome Study Group, Dystonia Study Group, Huntington Disease Study Group, Tremor Research and Investigation Group, and other professional and scientific organizations. Dr. Jankovic has organized and chaired numerous national and international scientific symposia. Since 1990, along with Drs. Fahn, Marsden, Hallett and Jenner, he has co-directed the annual course "A Comprehensive Review of Movement Disorders", in Aspen, Colorado. He has also directed the annual AAN course on Movement Disorders, Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders Update, and, along with Dr. Lang, has co-directed the annual seminar "Unusual Movement Disorders". A member of the AAN educational committee, he served as the chairman of the A/V subcommittee. He is current or past member of the scientific and medical advisory boards of many national foundations including the Dystonia Medical Research Foundation, International Tremor Foundation, Tourette Syndrome Association, Society for Progressive Supranuclear Palsy, Myoclonus Research Foundation, and The Bachmann-Strauss Dystonia and Parkinson Foundation. He is the founder and past chairman of the Medical Advisory Board for the Benign Essential Blepharospasm Research Foundation. Dr. Jankovic has served as the medical director of regional associations including the Houston Area Parkinsonism Society (HAPS) and regional chapters of national support groups. Dr. Jankovic is a recipient of several prestigious awards and has been invited as a named lecturer and a visiting professor to many U.S. and foreign universities. Dr. Jankovic is listed in Best Doctors in America, America’s Top Doctors, and in Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in World, Who’s Who in Health and Medical Services, and in Who’s Who in Science and Engineering. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
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Its quite common that people with a condition know more about it than the ‘experts’. Face blindness is a good example, I actually know the people involved here. The original face blindness tests involved showing an entire person and/or head. People who experienced face blindness where passing the tests, and posting on discussion boards about the problems with them. Finally a neurology student sees the discussions and not being full of himself and his ‘expertise’ decides they might be right, and sets out to make a valid test. He first proved the old tests invalid by showing that people still passed them even when the faces where removed from the pictures! 
— Be a counter terrorist perpetrate random senseless acts of kindness Rave: Immanentization of the Eschaton in a Temporary Autonomous Zone. C/C++/Perl Linux/Unix resume: http://www.farviolet.com/~entropy/resume.txt
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wrote: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng..
Do you have TS? Blurt
Doctors are just everyday people who can read way too much about stuff that has little bearing on reality. the folk in this form deal with people (read doctors) who deal with Tourettes mostly though some third or fourth-hand form. first-hand, being someone who has the condition. second hand, being someone, like a mother, who deals with the condition. and third-hand, being someone who might writes about these conditions. fourth-hand, may be a G.P, or even perhaps a geneticist. So don’t go wasting all your energy projecting it all into the rebuttal of one minor disagreement you had with what TSNW says. When your intentions are so meaningless, anything you say therein will have little credence to anybody here you are maybe hoping to influence. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:50:09 +0100, "lurker" <spam@nospam
wrote: "Maryann" <sableme…@rcn.com wrote in message news:3D4938E2.6070709@rcn.com… Janus wrote: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. But…but…but… I know for a fact that Dr. Jankovic prescribes stimulant medication to *some* kids with co-morbid TS/ADHD…this proves not only that he "knows nothing about TS", but that he is also EVIL…pure EVIL… I say we burn him. http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/neurol/jankovic/biography.htm Biography: Professor of Neurology, Director, Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic, Department of Neurology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas After receiving his M.D. degree in 1973, Dr. Jankovic completed medicine internship at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. He obtained his neurological training at the Neurological Institute (NI), Columbia University, New York City, where he served as the Chief Resident until 1977. While at the NI he became interested in movement disorders and obtained additional training with Stanley Fahn, M.D. In 1977 he joined the faculty of Baylor College of Medicine and established the Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic (PDCMDC). Dr. Jankovic was promoted to a full professor of Neurology and a senior attending at The Methodist Hospital in 1988. In 1992, the National Parkinson Foundation recognized the PDCMDC as a "Center of Excellence" and in 2001 the Huntington Disease Society of America recognized the PDCMDC as "HDSA Center of Excellence". Dr. Jankovic has conducted numerous clinical trials and has published over 600 original articles and chapters. He has edited or co-edited 20 books and volumes including standard textbooks such as Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders and Surgery of Movement Disorders. In addition to Parkinson disease and related disorders, these publications have covered tremors, dystonia, Tourette syndrome, Huntington disease, myoclonus, tardive dyskinesia, restless legs syndrome, paroxysmal dyskinesias, various neurodegenerative disorders, and surgical and experimental therapeutics of movement disorders. Dr. Jankovic is an editor of several on-line books and journals including Neurology in Clinical Practice. He has also served on the editorial boards of Neurology, Movement Disorders, Journal of Neurology Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Neurobase, Acta Neurologica Scandinavica, Clinical Neuropharmacology and other journals. Dr. Jankovic is past president of the international Movement Disorder Society and of the Houston Neurological Society. Certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology (ABPN), he has been an examiner for the ABPN and for the American Board of Neurological Surgeons. He is a fellow of the American Academy of Neurology (AAN), and active member of the American Neurological Association, Society for Neuroscience, Parkinson Study Group, Tourette Syndrome Study Group, Dystonia Study Group, Huntington Disease Study Group, Tremor Research and Investigation Group, and other professional and scientific organizations. Dr. Jankovic has organized and chaired numerous national and international scientific symposia. Since 1990, along with Drs. Fahn, Marsden, Hallett and Jenner, he has co-directed the annual course "A Comprehensive Review of Movement Disorders", in Aspen, Colorado. He has also directed the annual AAN course on Movement Disorders, Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders Update, and, along with Dr. Lang, has co-directed the annual seminar "Unusual Movement Disorders". A member of the AAN educational committee, he served as the chairman of the A/V subcommittee. He is current or past member of the scientific and medical advisory boards of many national foundations including the Dystonia Medical Research Foundation, International Tremor Foundation, Tourette Syndrome Association, Society for Progressive Supranuclear Palsy, Myoclonus Research Foundation, and The Bachmann-Strauss Dystonia and Parkinson Foundation. He is the founder and past chairman of the Medical Advisory Board for the Benign Essential Blepharospasm Research Foundation. Dr. Jankovic has served as the medical director of regional associations including the Houston Area Parkinsonism Society (HAPS) and regional chapters of national support groups. Dr. Jankovic is a recipient of several prestigious awards and has been invited as a named lecturer and a visiting professor to many U.S. and foreign universities. Dr. Jankovic is listed in Best Doctors in America, America’s Top Doctors, and in Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in World, Who’s Who in Health and Medical Services, and in Who’s Who in Science and Engineering. — A child, however, who had no important job and could only see things as his eyes showed them to him, went up to the carriage. "The Emperor is naked," he said. —Hans Christian Anderson Project Gutenberg Fine Literature Digitally Republished http://promo.net/pg/index.html
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wrote: Janus, You would be surprised to know the number of people on this group who also have TS themselves. It is easier to focus on th children for many reason, as most of us believe that there is one place that we could be able to make a difference.
I also think they make good distractions. I once said to someone who wanted to put kids in a wedding that i likened it to putting a bowl of swimming fish in a room.
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It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng.
Then leave. Ooops, block sender? Ok. Gone now.
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In article <B96EB4F1.1479A%spock…@bellsouth.net, spock…@bellsouth.net says… in article MPG.17b2fb9773c3b2989…@news.alt.net, Janus at Ja…@nospam.com wrote on 8/1/02 8:03 AM: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. Have you ever heard the term: Science now believes??? The day the medical profession professes to ‘know all there is about anything’ is the same day I will doubt their credibility as a profession. "Experts" can be wrong, and have been known to have been wrong. It is not a big deal. A reputable "expert" welcomes input. nuff said. Paula go to other doctors, until you find an eminent specialist who agrees with you, and get the other eminent specialist to approach dr jancovic and argue the case. You don’t go writing eminent specialists like a bunch of grandiose manics, would, telling them they are wrong on _your_ say so.. lol
And, why the hell not????? I have absolutely no problem giving anyone my 2 cents worth. pfffft…. Paula —
Janus writes:
It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng.
Didn’t used to be…
People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol
The doc who posits that behavioral disorders are part and parcel of TS is being defended by the guy/gal/sockpuppet who states that only people who don’t engage in personal attacks or start pissing contests are presumed to have TS…
People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng..
JANus…JANkovic…nah…..that would be Paranoid Delusions…
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Janus writes: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. Didn’t used to be… People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol The doc who posits that behavioral disorders are part and parcel of TS is
being
defended by the guy/gal/sockpuppet who states that only people who don’t engage in personal attacks or start pissing contests are presumed to have
TS…
People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. JANus…JANkovic…nah…..that would be Paranoid Delusions…
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It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng..
Have you ever heard the term: Science now believes??? The day the medical profession professes to ‘know all there is about anything’ is the same day I will doubt their credibility as a profession. "Experts" can be wrong, and have been known to have been wrong. It is not a big deal. A reputable "expert" welcomes input. nuff said. Paula —
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in article MPG.17b2fb9773c3b2989…@news.alt.net, Janus at Ja…@nospam.com wrote on 8/1/02 8:03 AM: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. Have you ever heard the term: Science now believes??? The day the medical profession professes to ‘know all there is about anything’ is the same day I will doubt their credibility as a profession. "Experts" can be wrong, and have been known to have been wrong. It is not a big deal. A reputable "expert" welcomes input. nuff said. Paula
go to other doctors, until you find an eminent specialist who agrees with you, and get the other eminent specialist to approach dr jancovic and argue the case. You don’t go writing eminent specialists like a bunch of grandiose manics, would, telling them they are wrong on _your_ say so.. lol
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"Maryann" <sableme…@rcn.com wrote in message news:3D4938E2.6070709@rcn.com… Janus wrote: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. But…but…but… I know for a fact that Dr. Jankovic prescribes stimulant medication to *some* kids with co-morbid TS/ADHD…this proves not only that he "knows nothing about TS", but that he is also EVIL…pure EVIL… I say we burn him. http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/neurol/jankovic/biography.htm Biography: Professor of Neurology, Director, Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic, Department of Neurology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas After receiving his M.D. degree in 1973, Dr. Jankovic completed medicine internship at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. He obtained his neurological training at the Neurological Institute (NI), Columbia University, New York City, where he served as the Chief Resident until 1977. While at the NI he became interested in movement disorders and obtained additional training with Stanley Fahn, M.D. In 1977 he joined the faculty of Baylor College of Medicine and established the Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic (PDCMDC). Dr. Jankovic was promoted to a full professor of Neurology and a senior attending at The Methodist Hospital in 1988. In 1992, the National Parkinson Foundation recognized the PDCMDC as a "Center of Excellence" and in 2001 the Huntington Disease Society of America recognized the PDCMDC as "HDSA Center of Excellence". Dr. Jankovic has conducted numerous clinical trials and has published over 600 original articles and chapters. He has edited or co-edited 20 books and volumes including standard textbooks such as Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders and Surgery of Movement Disorders. In addition to Parkinson disease and related disorders, these publications have covered tremors, dystonia, Tourette syndrome, Huntington disease, myoclonus, tardive dyskinesia, restless legs syndrome, paroxysmal dyskinesias, various neurodegenerative disorders, and surgical and experimental therapeutics of movement disorders. Dr. Jankovic is an editor of several on-line books and journals including Neurology in Clinical Practice. He has also served on the editorial boards of Neurology, Movement Disorders, Journal of Neurology Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Neurobase, Acta Neurologica Scandinavica, Clinical Neuropharmacology and other journals. Dr. Jankovic is past president of the international Movement Disorder Society and of the Houston Neurological Society. Certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology (ABPN), he has been an examiner for the ABPN and for the American Board of Neurological Surgeons. He is a fellow of the American Academy of Neurology (AAN), and active member of the American Neurological Association, Society for Neuroscience, Parkinson Study Group, Tourette Syndrome Study Group, Dystonia Study Group, Huntington Disease Study Group, Tremor Research and Investigation Group, and other professional and scientific organizations. Dr. Jankovic has organized and chaired numerous national and international scientific symposia. Since 1990, along with Drs. Fahn, Marsden, Hallett and Jenner, he has co-directed the annual course "A Comprehensive Review of Movement Disorders", in Aspen, Colorado. He has also directed the annual AAN course on Movement Disorders, Parkinson’s Disease and Movement Disorders Update, and, along with Dr. Lang, has co-directed the annual seminar "Unusual Movement Disorders". A member of the AAN educational committee, he served as the chairman of the A/V subcommittee. He is current or past member of the scientific and medical advisory boards of many national foundations including the Dystonia Medical Research Foundation, International Tremor Foundation, Tourette Syndrome Association, Society for Progressive Supranuclear Palsy, Myoclonus Research Foundation, and The Bachmann-Strauss Dystonia and Parkinson Foundation. He is the founder and past chairman of the Medical Advisory Board for the Benign Essential Blepharospasm Research Foundation. Dr. Jankovic has served as the medical director of regional associations including the Houston Area Parkinsonism Society (HAPS) and regional chapters of national support groups. Dr. Jankovic is a recipient of several prestigious awards and has been invited as a named lecturer and a visiting professor to many U.S. and foreign universities. Dr. Jankovic is listed in Best Doctors in America, America’s Top Doctors, and in Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in World, Who’s Who in Health and Medical Services, and in Who’s Who in Science and Engineering.
Thanks lurker. I am well aware of Dr. J’s CV (the TS community in New England is not THAT large) and I know a couple of his patients personally. It’s clear that I should have prefaced my post with a big !!!SARCASM ALERT!!!… Of course physicians must be judicious and cautious in prescribing stimulants (or any other med, for that matter). Stimulants *can* exacerbate tics in some people, sometimes severely. No argument there. But if Janus’ position is that *no* physician who is knowledgeable about TS would ever prescribe stimulants to *any* patient with tics or TS and co-morbid ADHD, he/she is flat out wrong.
— A child, however, who had no important job and could only see things as his eyes showed them to him, went up to the carriage. "The Emperor is naked," he said. —Hans Christian Anderson Project Gutenberg Fine Literature Digitally Republished http://promo.net/pg/index.html
— A child, however, who had no important job and could only see things as his eyes showed them to him, went up to the carriage. "The Emperor is naked," he said. —Hans Christian Anderson Project Gutenberg Fine Literature Digitally Republished http://promo.net/pg/index.html
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Janus wrote: It’s pathos and looney tunes on this ng. People who yet to reveal they themselves have the foggiest notion of the most basic facts about TS, are manicly writing letters to a doctor whose been dx’ing and treating TS for 31 years, and telling him he got it wrong about TS, lol People with the grandiose delusion they know more than the experts, have a dx alright, but its not TS! Classic manic depression is a differential diagnosis, often confused and misdiagnosed as Ts, ADHD. One of the big things people with manic depression do, is write complaints, and/or write eminent specialists how they got it all wrong.. If I ever crosspost anything about the looney tunes engaged in by posters to this ng, it will be to the manic ng.. But…but…but… I know for a fact that Dr. Jankovic prescribes stimulant medication to *some* kids with co-morbid TS/ADHD…this proves not only that he "knows nothing about TS", but that he is also EVIL…pure EVIL… I say we burn him.
Your comments have been forwarded Not too sure what you have against Professor Jankovic but if you arer going to cyberstalk him you may as well di it properly Professor of Neurology Director, Parkinson’s Disease Center and Movement Disorders Clinic President, Movement Disorder Society Phone: 1-713-798-7438 (Patient Appointment) Phone: 1-713-798-5998 (Academic) Fax: 1-713-798-6808 email: jose…@bcm.tmc.edu Joseph Jankovic, M.D. ————————————————————————— —– Clinical Interests: Movement disorders including Parkinson’s disease and related neurodegenerative disorders, tremors, dystonia, Tourette’s syndrome, Huntington’s disease, and tardive dyskinesias. Research Interests: Epidemiology, pathophysiology, genetics and experimental therapeutics of movement disorders. Selected Publications: (out of over 300 original articles and reviews) Ondo, W., Jankovic, J. (1996) Essential tremor: Treatment options. CNS Drugs. 3:178-191. Demirkiran, M., Jankovic, J. (1996) Paroxysmal dyskinesias. In: Appel, S.H., ed., Current Neurology, vol 16, Mosby Year Book, Chicago, 16:213-251. Krauss, J.K., Jankovic, J. (1996) Severe motor tics causing cervical myelopathy in Tourette’s syndrome. Mov. Disord. 11:563-566. Litvan, I., Agid, Y., Calne, D., Campbell, G., Dubois, B., Duvoisin, R.C., Goetz, C.G., Golbe, L.I., Grafman, J., Growdon, J.H., Hallett, M., Jankovic, J., Quinn, N.P., Tolosa, E., Zee, D.S. (1996) Clinical research criteria for the diagnosis of progressive supranuclear palsy (Steele-Richardson-Olszewski syndrome): Report of the NINDS-SPSP International Workshop. Neurology. 47:1-9. Krauss, J.K., Jankovic, J. (1996) Surgical treatment of Parkinson’s disease. Am. Fam. Physician. 54:1621-1629. Stanley, R., Protas, E.J., Jankovic, J. (1996) Exercise intervention in Parkinson’s disease: A pilot study. Mov. Disor. 11:748-751. Litvan, I., Agid, Y., Sastrj, N., Jankovic, J., Wenning, G., Goetz, C.G., et al. (1996) What are the obstacles for an accurate clinical diagnosis of Pick’s disease? A clinicopathologic study. Neurology. 49:62-69. Krauss, J.K., Akeyson, E.W., Giam, P., Jankovic, J. (1996) Propofol-induced dyskinesias in Parkinson’s disease. Anesth. Analg. 83:420-422. Ondo, W., Jankovic, J. (1996) Restless legs syndrome: Clinical-etiologic correlates. Neurology. 47:1435-1441. Dichgans, J., M
Stan, M8, I hear ya loud and clear. I have tried every type of AD for just over 2 years now… with limited (being generous) success. I have come to terms with the fact that Benzos are my "insulin" so to speak. I am happy living with them for the rest of my life. Stan can u tell me something…. u seem to have been on them much longer than me….. I am curious to know whether you have had any long term, irreversible side-effects. Thanx, Russ. "Stan D." <es…@swipnet.se
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Benzos provide quick and effective help for my SP (hand tremor). I shall always remember the first time I took them, back in the sixties. I had
never
before experienced that a drug could help. Meprobamates and barbiturates were the common and useless drugs then. When I take the benzo, the SP
worry
and fear disappear. I start enjoying socialising in a way that feels natural. This is where the soma comes in, the Saturday drug that people take in Huxley
I feel for you! No advice, just hugs. You aren’t a total slug, since you just joined this new NG and are still searching for answers – or at least advice. Bravo! Helen "PhBtBet" <phbt…@aol.com
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Hi group! Thought it was about time I formally introduced myself and
asked for
some advice since I have been lurking for a very long time. My name is Betty, I’m 46 years old and I have Lupus, RA, Fibro, MPS, and
mitral
valve prolapse along with "vasoconstriction" (I have angina attacks at
rest and
on the go). I think it appropriate to give some history here: I’ve had fibro since I was 27. I’d had my son when I was 25 and went for several years without sleep–the kid screamed *non-stop* and was (still
is) an
incredibly intense child! Anyway, one day I woke up and my entire rib
cage and
back was in spasm and screaming pain. Went to my GP who did blood tests
and I
came out with a positive ANA. Referred to a rheumy who did a zillion
tests for
Lupus, but finally diagnosed FMS. Also discovered MVP at that time. Flash forward to a few years ago when, all of a sudden, my body went
totally
haywire. I had major tremors (looked like an alcoholic desperately in
need of
a drink!). Additionally, I had major chest pains. Went to a cardiologist
who
first blew me off but when she did a stress test and I failed big time,
she
apologized profusely saying I looked so young and fit that she thought I
was
just a hypochondriac. Anyway, she offered to hospitalize me that day but
I
declined. Went in for an angiogram the next Monday and the heart was
clear but
when she injected me with some kind of medicine it brought on the angina.
Gave
me meds and did a follow up stress test which I still failed! At this
point
she admitted that she didn’t have a clue and thought I should have a
second
opinion. I went to a doctor outside of the group and he couldn’t find
anything
else either. Right now I’m taking Cardizem CD and have my little Nitroglycerine spray for my "attacks." As for the tremors, he thought
perhaps
I had "essential tremor" and suggested seeing a neurologist. During this same time my rheumy did some extra blood tests and I tested positive for Lupus–my anti-Sm was positive. My joints were acting up big time–swelling of the knees and hands, costochondritis, etc. She started
a
regimen of Plaquenil and prednisone which controlled my symptoms for a bit
and
also helped to relieve my tremors and my migraines which lasted for days
at a
time. Unfortunately, my symptoms gradually worsened–terrible swelling of
my
knees and hands–and she started me on Methotrexate and increased the prednisone. I asked her if I had RA and she, at first, insisted that I couldn’t have RA since I definitely had Lupus and said that even if I did,
the
meds should control the RA as well as the Lupus. Several months ago my joints were SO swollen I couldn’t move, I broke down crying in her office and told her "I don’t have a life!" She was
sympathetic,
sat down and told me that I DO have RA and wanted to add Arava to the mix. That helped quite a lot with the swelling so I started to taper the
prednisone.
She also put me on Neurontin for the FMS pain which was severe. Well, now
the
tremors and the migraines (which had subsided for 6 months) are back with
a
vengeance and I’m wondering if the prednisone helped control the migraines
and
tremors. Any thoughts? Currently I’m taking 20mg. MTX, Folic Acid, 20mg. Arava, Robaxin, Xanax, Remeron, Cardizem CD, 9mg. Prednisone, Cytotec, Vicodin, Neurontin, and a
few
other things that I can’t remember off-hand. I never have a "good" day–it’s always bad or awful. I’m basically house-bound. I get severe tendonitis for no apparent reason that comes
and
goes on a whim. By the time my morning regimen of having coffee,
showering,
and getting dressed is over with, I’m wasted and my legs are so swollen
along
with my ankles, toes, etc., that I sit on the couch all day! I try to
pace
myself but the reality is that I can either clean a few bathroom sinks OR
cook
a meal and by that time I’m in screaming pain. I’m really getting fed up
with
this! I used to be so active–played tennis, racquetball, swam laps,
worked
out on the treadmill and did weights, etc.–and now I’m a slug. I am on several NGs and see other people with Lupus or RA saying they can
do
things, go places, go to work, and all the other things that comprise
having a
life. I don’t know what ailments to attribute to RA and to Lupus. The Neurontin has helped with the FMS but not the other pain. Frankly, I’m beginning to lose it! I have planned a trip to Italy for the fall–a 12-night Mediterranean
cruise
with a few nights in Barcelona at the beginning and end of the trip. I
want to
be able to see the sights and am desperately trying to find out what to do
that
will enable me to have a decent time. I went on a cruise 1 1/2 years ago
for 7
days and barely came out of my cabin I was so sick the entire time (not
seasick
either)! I don’t want a repeat. Well, sorry for the long rant, pity party and so on, but I’m in need of
some
help, suggestions, thoughts–anything that might lead me to a better life. Thanks in advance for any advice or words of wisdom! Hugs, Betty
Dear Betty, Sounds like you’ve had a tough time and I’m so sorry, will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Back to business-my experience with Neurontin brought on tremor type seizures. I took it to reduce inflammation in the nerves of a particularly bad leg. Tremors-Seizures were bad enough to spend 4 days in the hospital. Discontinued the neurontin and I haven’t had any more. Best of luck to you -I can empathize, I have Ra and SLE. God Bless. Cindy
I want to welcome you to the group. You certainly sound like you’ve had a really tough time with lupus and RA. You have my utmost sympathies and respect for the incredible courage you show every day just facing life. Fortunately, it does sound like you’ve been blessed with some good doctors. My sister, BTW, has had similar problems with angina associated with her MVP (mitral valve prolapse). Fortunately, after lots of testing, it looks like even though she has a lot of symptoms, nothing overtly dangerous is going on with her heart. She’s been treated symptomatically since then. So far as the tremors and migraines go, this sounds very much like CNS involvement of lupus. My daughter also has CNS lupus. We’ve been told by some very prominent researchers on her case that Methotrexate isn’t a great drug for this particular complication. It’s wonderful for RA, but not as useful with lupus. In my daughter’s case, they’ve suggested Imuran, Cellcept or Cytoxan. If you’d like some weblinks where you can get more RA and lupus information, I’d be h happy to send them. You’re also welcome to e-mail or IM me anytime. Take care, Sandra
Hi group! Thought it was about time I formally introduced myself and asked for some advice since I have been lurking for a very long time. My name is Betty, I’m 46 years old and I have Lupus, RA, Fibro, MPS, and mitral valve prolapse along with "vasoconstriction" (I have angina attacks at rest and on the go). I think it appropriate to give some history here: I’ve had fibro since I was 27. I’d had my son when I was 25 and went for several years without sleep–the kid screamed *non-stop* and was (still is) an incredibly intense child! Anyway, one day I woke up and my entire rib cage and back was in spasm and screaming pain. Went to my GP who did blood tests and I came out with a positive ANA. Referred to a rheumy who did a zillion tests for Lupus, but finally diagnosed FMS. Also discovered MVP at that time. Flash forward to a few years ago when, all of a sudden, my body went totally haywire. I had major tremors (looked like an alcoholic desperately in need of a drink!). Additionally, I had major chest pains. Went to a cardiologist who first blew me off but when she did a stress test and I failed big time, she apologized profusely saying I looked so young and fit that she thought I was just a hypochondriac. Anyway, she offered to hospitalize me that day but I declined. Went in for an angiogram the next Monday and the heart was clear but when she injected me with some kind of medicine it brought on the angina. Gave me meds and did a follow up stress test which I still failed! At this point she admitted that she didn’t have a clue and thought I should have a second opinion. I went to a doctor outside of the group and he couldn’t find anything else either. Right now I’m taking Cardizem CD and have my little Nitroglycerine spray for my "attacks." As for the tremors, he thought perhaps I had "essential tremor" and suggested seeing a neurologist. During this same time my rheumy did some extra blood tests and I tested positive for Lupus–my anti-Sm was positive. My joints were acting up big time–swelling of the knees and hands, costochondritis, etc. She started a regimen of Plaquenil and prednisone which controlled my symptoms for a bit and also helped to relieve my tremors and my migraines which lasted for days at a time. Unfortunately, my symptoms gradually worsened–terrible swelling of my knees and hands–and she started me on Methotrexate and increased the prednisone. I asked her if I had RA and she, at first, insisted that I couldn’t have RA since I definitely had Lupus and said that even if I did, the meds should control the RA as well as the Lupus. Several months ago my joints were SO swollen I couldn’t move, I broke down crying in her office and told her "I don’t have a life!" She was sympathetic, sat down and told me that I DO have RA and wanted to add Arava to the mix. That helped quite a lot with the swelling so I started to taper the prednisone. She also put me on Neurontin for the FMS pain which was severe. Well, now the tremors and the migraines (which had subsided for 6 months) are back with a vengeance and I’m wondering if the prednisone helped control the migraines and tremors. Any thoughts? Currently I’m taking 20mg. MTX, Folic Acid, 20mg. Arava, Robaxin, Xanax, Remeron, Cardizem CD, 9mg. Prednisone, Cytotec, Vicodin, Neurontin, and a few other things that I can’t remember off-hand. I never have a "good" day–it’s always bad or awful. I’m basically house-bound. I get severe tendonitis for no apparent reason that comes and goes on a whim. By the time my morning regimen of having coffee, showering, and getting dressed is over with, I’m wasted and my legs are so swollen along with my ankles, toes, etc., that I sit on the couch all day! I try to pace myself but the reality is that I can either clean a few bathroom sinks OR cook a meal and by that time I’m in screaming pain. I’m really getting fed up with this! I used to be so active–played tennis, racquetball, swam laps, worked out on the treadmill and did weights, etc.–and now I’m a slug. I am on several NGs and see other people with Lupus or RA saying they can do things, go places, go to work, and all the other things that comprise having a life. I don’t know what ailments to attribute to RA and to Lupus. The Neurontin has helped with the FMS but not the other pain. Frankly, I’m beginning to lose it! I have planned a trip to Italy for the fall–a 12-night Mediterranean cruise with a few nights in Barcelona at the beginning and end of the trip. I want to be able to see the sights and am desperately trying to find out what to do that will enable me to have a decent time. I went on a cruise 1 1/2 years ago for 7 days and barely came out of my cabin I was so sick the entire time (not seasick either)! I don’t want a repeat. Well, sorry for the long rant, pity party and so on, but I’m in need of some help, suggestions, thoughts–anything that might lead me to a better life. Thanks in advance for any advice or words of wisdom! Hugs, Betty
I’ve noticed, and maybe it is bogus until next years allergy season comes around, but since I switched to water and not much else in May, I’ve had virtually no problem with allergies, not even when I flew to Houston in July. My breathing is WAY better than it used to be. Now, I don’t always have a lot of allergies in summer, but slightly stuffed up is not unusual for me. But I’ve not been all summer, except for one head cold. So I can see that yes, it might help asthmatics. Anyway, if anyone is an allergy sufferer, it may be worth a try. I should know more next spring… Cynthia G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For info, read http://dietchef.ecorp.net/articles/health/water.htm <snip I also just read that adequate hydration during exercise makes you able to breath much more efficiently. In fact, asthmatics who drank water while exercising cut way back on rescue inhaler use. If you are trying to lose weight, you should drink 64 ounces and then 8 ounces for each 25 pounds over weight you are. Once I actually made myself drink it, I find I crave it now. — claudia 565/355/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net Hi: How much water do you all drink? I have been trying to do about 50-60 oz. Is that enough? Perhaps we can setup intravenous water HAHAHAHHA thanks allen
Many in this newsgroup are more knowledgeable as to why we need to drink more… and I’ve often heard it said you should drink 64oz minimum PLUS an extra 8oz for every 25lbs you wish to lose. Someone else suggested that you half your weight and drink that many oz’s daily…. Drink up.. You’ll be glad you did.
here is the link: http://www.classicx.com/html/2super.html THE WATER QUESTION i not more knowledgeable than others, just great at grabbing links! rosie
I go through 2-2 litre pitchers a day. I think most people here drink more than that, but I remember a time when I thought drinking a 32 oz tumbler of water was a huge acomplishment! I found, the colder the water, the better. Lisa B. 243/223/160 "There is more to life than increasing its speed" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi: How much water do you all drink? I have been trying to do about 50-60 oz. Is that enough? Perhaps we can setup intravenous water HAHAHAHHA thanks allen
For info, read http://dietchef.ecorp.net/articles/health/water.htm An average sized person who is a total couch potato and not trying to lose weight should drink a minimum of 64 ounces a day. If you are more active and/or trying to lose weight you need to drink a lot more. When you don’t drink a lot of water, you lose weight much more slowly. Weight loss occurs as your liver breaks down fat deposits and flushes them out of your body. But when you don’t drink enough water, your kidneys can not do their job and there fore your liver stops or slows metabolizing fat and helps the kidneys do their job. No matter what, your body will always by default make sure that you remain a live as long as possible. What your kidneys do is essential to survival, so by default the liver will take over some of it’s work. I also just read that adequate hydration during exercise makes you able to breath much more efficiently. In fact, asthmatics who drank water while exercising cut way back on rescue inhaler use. If you are trying to lose weight, you should drink 64 ounces and then 8 ounces for each 25 pounds over weight you are. Once I actually made myself drink it, I find I crave it now. — claudia 565/355/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net
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I like drinking water. I also have a weakness for soda. I drink about 6-8+ glasses of water today. I tell ya. I have known 4 people who have had kidney troubles this year. I’m not certain what caused it in each of the women, but I know I’m gonna drink my water! Denise http://www.chistell.com
I drink 100 oz./day…this is fairly new for me (only a week) but it is getting easier. Good Luck, Renee
Hi: How much water do you all drink? I have been trying to do about 50-60 oz. Is that enough? Perhaps we can setup intravenous water HAHAHAHHA thanks allen
brenda, although i follow the recomendation you mentioned below, my water intake is roughly 1/2 of my weight, ounce wise…..just a strange coinkydink with me Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Allen… I was one of those who rarely ever drank water, but I decided it was one of the things I was going to give an honest try this time around. I started out with what’s considered minimum water intake for everyone..8 x 8oz glasses per day or 64ozs. Within days, I had doubled it to 128ozs and it’s been the easiest change I could have ever made in my WOE. It helps to curb my hunger; it makes my entire body function better…and I feel much better. I now consider it one of the most important elements of my WOL. Many in this newsgroup are more knowledgeable as to why we need to drink more… and I’ve often heard it said you should drink 64oz minimum PLUS an extra 8oz for every 25lbs you wish to lose. Someone else suggested that you half your weight and drink that many oz’s daily…. Drink up.. You’ll be glad you did. Hi: How much water do you all drink? I have been trying to do about 50-60 oz. Is that enough? Perhaps we can setup intravenous water HAHAHAHHA thanks allen
Hi Allen… I was one of those who rarely ever drank water, but I decided it was one of the things I was going to give an honest try this time around. I started out with what’s considered minimum water intake for everyone..8 x 8oz glasses per day or 64ozs. Within days, I had doubled it to 128ozs and it’s been the easiest change I could have ever made in my WOE. It helps to curb my hunger; it makes my entire body function better…and I feel much better. I now consider it one of the most important elements of my WOL. Many in this newsgroup are more knowledgeable as to why we need to drink more… and I’ve often heard it said you should drink 64oz minimum PLUS an extra 8oz for every 25lbs you wish to lose. Someone else suggested that you half your weight and drink that many oz’s daily…. Drink up.. You’ll be glad you did.
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I like a good night’s sleep, so I usually don’t drink much water after about 9 PM unless I go for a walk later than that. I go to bed pretty late (midnightish) so that’s usually plenty of time so that I avoid having to pee all night. Katie 183/168/163 Y4K: 568 /4000 — To reply by e-mail, take out all the x’s.
I drink a ton of water everyday on everyone’s advice. But I try not to drink too much too late after one night a few nights ago waking up 3 times having to pee something terrible! LOL! Desert Wind 296/291/125 Please visit my website
i know about those late nite potty visits. my biggest problem is getting my eyes to open up enough so i don’t trip over the dogs!! lol-janzbug
Hi Desert Wind, The nights when I have to get up and pee during the night is one I cherish. That usually is followed by a woosh the next morning Michael I drink a ton of water everyday on everyone’s advice. But I try not to drink too much too late after one night a few nights ago waking up 3 times having to pee something terrible! LOL! Desert Wind 296/291/125 Please visit my website
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I drink a ton of water everyday on everyone’s advice. But I try not to drink too much too late after one night a few nights ago waking up 3 times having to pee something terrible! LOL! Desert Wind 296/291/125
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Water!!!! I drink it when I read ASD, every time I see the word "water, drink, drank, or drunk." (It’s the ASD Drinking Game. Other than that, I drink *at least* 64 oz. per day, plus extra glasses in little "water rituals" such as the ASD Drinking Game, whenever I’m waiting for food to cook in the microwave, or whenever I’m in class or studying. Claudia’s right about asthma too – I’ve had fewer problems breathing since I’ve been fully hydrated (which in turn cuts down on my essential tremor because I’m not taking my inhaler as much). Basically, water is just *the* thing. Ambrosia. The Elixer of Life. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 Y2K 60/2000
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Yep, I do think there is a relationship. I’ve been bad about drinking for two days now and I’ve noticed I am stuffier. Gotta go fill that water glass! Cynthia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cynthia, I noticed the same thing. All the more reason to drink that water. I’ve noticed, and maybe it is bogus until next years allergy season comes around, but since I switched to water and not much else in May, I’ve had virtually no problem with allergies, not even when I flew to Houston in July. My breathing is WAY better than it used to be.
Cynthia, I noticed the same thing. All the more reason to drink that water.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve noticed, and maybe it is bogus until next years allergy season comes around, but since I switched to water and not much else in May, I’ve had virtually no problem with allergies, not even when I flew to Houston in July. My breathing is WAY better than it used to be. Now, I don’t always have a lot of allergies in summer, but slightly stuffed up is not unusual for me. But I’ve not been all summer, except for one head cold. So I can see that yes, it might help asthmatics. Anyway, if anyone is an allergy sufferer, it may be worth a try. I should know more next spring… Cynthia G For info, read http://dietchef.ecorp.net/articles/health/water.htm <snip I also just read that adequate hydration during exercise makes you able to breath much more efficiently. In fact, asthmatics who drank water while exercising cut way back on rescue inhaler use. If you are trying to lose weight, you should drink 64 ounces and then 8 ounces for each 25 pounds over weight you are. Once I actually made myself drink it, I find I crave it now. — claudia 565/355/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net Hi: How much water do you all drink? I have been trying to do about 50-60 oz. Is that enough? Perhaps we can setup intravenous water HAHAHAHHA thanks allen
Hey Melissa, I agree with everybody else that the "Prozac turns people into axe murderers" thing is a lot of hype. Some people do get worse on antidepressants – it happened to me on Wellbutrin (though a lot of that may have just been the natural course of the illness). But if you were one of these people, you’d know it! In regard to people who became violent/suicidal on antidepressants, they and their relatives claimed that they had no prior history of violence/suicidality, but to the best of my knowledge, closer examination revealed that they did have histories. One other thing – if this helps any, the sleepwalking/axe-murdering (or whatever it was) story involved a person on *Halcion*, not an antidepressant. -elizabeth
Thanks to all of you for assuaging my fears about zoloft and axe-murderers. Sometimes I need to hear it from others before it "sinks in." Take care, Melissa
Quick question. I’ve been on Zoloft for four weeks now with very desirable results…getting out more, driving alone, etc. But after reading some of the stuff posted about SSRI’s causing people to commit suicide, homicide, or other atrocities, I’m freaked!! Someone please tell me that I’m not going to sleepwalk and axe murder little kids! I mean, all that stuff was political *wasn’t* it?? Thanks! Melissa
Melissa, relax. Most of these claims are a lot of ::insert favourite expletive here:: Some have been spread by a particular organisation that has it’s own ideas about how psychological disorders should be treated (giving them lots a money, in the main) and some lawyers have tried to implicate them as being responsible for their client’s crimes. However, the only one that may be applicable is that some people on SSRIs have committed suicide. So have a lot of people that were not taking SSRIs. The fact is that many, if not most, were taking SSRIs because they were at risk. I’m one of those that cannot handle the effects of SSRIs – I get really wired on them, but I’ve never found that they have lead me to do something I wouldn’t normally contemplate. One the assumption that your cellar isn’t already stacked to the ceiling with the remains of your victims, after 4 weeks your should be reasonably safe! :-^) Ian BTW-If you suddenly get the urge to commit henious acts apon *Moat Monsters* then up the Zoloft dose and give me a call! <VVVBEG
Quick question. I’ve been on Zoloft for four weeks now with very desirable results…getting out more, driving alone, etc. But after reading some of the stuff posted about SSRI’s causing people to commit suicide, homicide, or other atrocities, I’m freaked!! Someone please tell me that I’m not going to sleepwalk and axe murder little kids! I mean, all that stuff was political *wasn’t* it?? Thanks! Melissa
Hi Melissa! Don’t worry! You’re definitely *not* going to sleepwalk and axe murder little kids. (There, I said it 
) These stories *are* political indeed and if the odd criminal happened to be on an antidepressant that doesn’t mean that the antidepressant was the cause of his acts. Many criminals drink milk, I suppose, but milk won’t cause them to commit murders. In these *stories* it’s always Prozac BTW and never Zoloft, so I think you’re in the clear…;)) And it’s great that Zoloft is agreeing so well with you! Philip
HI Melissa, If you have been on Zoloft for a few weeks and are doing good, IMO, don’t worry. I am one of those people who had a bad time with Prozac, but my BAD symptoms developed after only 3 days on it. Cathy When we talk to God we’re praying. When God talks to us we’re schizophrenic. –Lily Tomlin P.H.O.B.I.A. Off-line Panic/Anxiety Support Group Learn about us at http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia
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Quick question. I’ve been on Zoloft for four weeks now with very desirable results…getting out more, driving alone, etc. But after reading some of the stuff posted about SSRI’s causing people to commit suicide, homicide, or other atrocities, I’m freaked!! Someone please tell me that I’m not going to sleepwalk and axe murder little kids! I mean, all that stuff was political *wasn’t* it?? Thanks! Melissa
Quick question. I’ve been on Zoloft for four weeks now with very desirable results…getting out more, driving alone, etc. But after reading some of the stuff posted about SSRI’s causing people to commit suicide, homicide, or other atrocities, I’m freaked!! Someone please tell me that I’m not going to sleepwalk and axe murder little kids! I mean, all that stuff was political *wasn’t* it??
Hi Melissa, I can quarantee that we will not be hearing about you in the news, because you commited some despicable act<G. I think this all stems from the Prozac rumours. I am sure on very rare occassion, someone on Prozac killed themselves, but can we say for sure that the Prozac made them do it? I don`t think so. And there a few people who had bad reactions on Prozac, but you can have a bad reaction on any med there is. I am a med phobic, and if I felt there was any truth to what you fear, I would never had gone on it. I am fine, and nothing happened to me. And being you have been on Zoloft 4 weeks, the side-effects you have now, are it…..and they should start diminishing. You are going to be fine, stop worrying and enjoy how well you are feeling on the Zoloft…..that is what Zoloft is suppose to do, not make you crazy. Take Care!! Jackie ~Dreams that come true can be as unsetting as those that don’t.~