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Get to your doctor and get started on any number of presriptions by Dec/Jan if your allergies flare up in Feb/Mar. I’ve had similar issues without outdoor exercise,

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I had similar problems, especially when I lived in the midwest.  It got so bad that I couldn’t run more than a quarter mile before I had the equivalent of an Asthma attack.  OTC medicine like Clor-Trimeton worked pretty well for me.  When that didn’t do the trick, I stepped up to Claritin. Recently, I was training for the Ironman, and had similar issues develop. The doctor presribed Flovent (very expensive, very effective). I’d be careful about taking prednisone, though.  The stuff effects different people different ways.  I had a serious battle with Poison oak about 6 months ago, where that was prescribed.  Though I didn’t think this was possible, I averaged 3 hours of sleep a night for three weeks. The stuff had me amped like I’d never been amped before.  I recall doing 8 mile runs at 3 in the morning, slightly above what is usually my lactate threshold, and not even being tired afterward.  It is a banned substance for racing, however, so if you want to feel a drug-free sense of accomplishment, I’d steer clear. Zac

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. Started training for my first marathon in May. Slated to run it in January. Am really starting to get into it. I’m dreading one thing, though. I have all intentions of continuing to run year round, but in Feb/Mar, I always come down with the crummiest allergic reaction to oak pollen, which is everywhere in my home of Central Florida during spring. It’s not so much the normal itchy and runny nose and eyes I’m worried about; it’s more the chest-cold-type symptoms I get when I’m breathing hard for extended periods during that time. Any advice? I’d hate to have to do the treadmill thing for a month or six weeks. Thanks.

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Hi. Started training for my first marathon in May. Slated to run it in January. Am really starting to get into it. I’m dreading one thing, though. I have all intentions of continuing to run year round, but in Feb/Mar, I always come down with the crummiest allergic reaction to oak pollen, which is everywhere in my home of Central Florida during spring. It’s not so much the normal itchy and runny nose and eyes I’m worried about; it’s more the chest-cold-type symptoms I get when I’m breathing hard for extended periods during that time. Any advice? I’d hate to have to do the treadmill thing for a month or six weeks. Thanks.

Get to your doctor and get started on any number of presriptions by Dec/Jan if your allergies flare up in Feb/Mar. I’ve had similar issues without outdoor exercise, and have finally gotten them under control by a combined regimen of nasal inhalers (Rhinocort), mouth inhalers (Flovent) and, as needed, something like Allegra. You can absolutely diminish or avoid these symptoms altogether, but you’ve got to start taking the stuff early on to let it build up and do its work. There are, of course, some reasons to be concerned about long-term inhaled steroid use, but you should talk these through with your doctor. Good luck! — Shalom, Peace, Salaam George Grattan

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it’s more the chest-cold-type symptoms I get when I’m breathing hard for extended periods during that time. Any advice?

Been there, done that.  My doctor gives me prescriptions for:  (1) an Albuterol inhaler; and (2) Prednisone tablets.  Also, sometimes Guaifenesin, either presecription as "Guaifenesin LA" or non-prescription as Robitussin (NOT "DM").  I must warn you, though, that you will lose weight with the Albuterol inhaler, as it ups your heart rate and gives your hands a sometimes irritating tremor. these 3 things will prevent a respiratory fluid build-up by helping you cough it out as it develops.  Good luck.  You CAN run through this; I do.  Remember that coughing is your friend, not your enemy, when you have this condition. –KLM

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Hi. Started training for my first marathon in May. Slated to run it in January. Am really starting to get into it. I’m dreading one thing, though. I have all intentions of continuing to run year round, but in Feb/Mar, I always come down with the crummiest allergic reaction to oak pollen, which is everywhere in my home of Central Florida during spring. It’s not so much the normal itchy and runny nose and eyes I’m worried about; it’s more the chest-cold-type symptoms I get when I’m breathing hard for extended periods during that time. Any advice? I’d hate to have to do the treadmill thing for a month or six weeks. Thanks.

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Interesting post I read here but no one expanded on the subject.  What is the opinion of inhaled steroids and weight gain?  I would like every ones opinion whether weight actually increases using inhaled vs oral steroids.

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Interesting post I read here but no one expanded on the subject.  What is the opinion of inhaled steroids and weight gain?  I would like every ones opinion whether weight actually increases using inhaled vs oral steroids.

Weight gain is a common side effect of oral steroids.  The chances of a steroid side effect is proportional to the dose – the greater the dose, the greater the chance of side effects.  IIRC the rule of thumb is that once the daily dose of inhaled steroid goes over 1000 micrograms, there is a chance of side effects. However as in all things relating to asthma and asthma medications: ‘Your milage may vary.’ "…there is always a well-known solution to every human problem–neat, plausible, and wrong."    H. L. Mencken

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Oral steriods like Prednisone definitely cause sudden weight gain and haven’t heard any convincing evidence that inhaled steriods do not. I have put on considerable weight since on Flovent 220 mcg and wonder if it might be to blame. Anyone else? Dana

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I take Advair, in the lowest dose, but I have lost weight.  

Same thing with me. I was beginning to think I was a lone ranger.

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I use the Advair Diskus and I also have lost weight.

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I’m on 2000mcg inhaled steroid per day with short weekly courses of 30mg every day when required (usually every two / three months or so). Much as I’d like to blame my weight gain on the above, and I’m sure it does play some small part, I think the main reason for being my being overweight whilst taking steroids is that I find it hard to exercise without getting out of breath and wheezy, get depressed from not being as active as I’d like, and hence use food as comfort. I’m kidding myself if I think I can just blame it on the steroids.

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I take Advair, in the lowest dose, but I have lost weight.  I lift weights and work out 3 times a week.  I have lost 20 lbs since I started to work out.

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Just wondering if anyone has tried taking Singulair to treat allergy related sinus congestion.

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I read that it was FDA approved for allergic rhinitis very recently. "Steven Balough" <sbalo…@mail.utexas.edu

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Many allergists and ENTs have prescribed it for that for years, even without FDA approval for it ("off-label"). I’ve been prescribed it several times, for rhinitis. Recently I started taking it again. To tell the truth, I’m really not sure if it is helping me at all or not. (Sometimes it’s hard to know. You think–"I might be worse if I wasn’t taking this".) Anyone here noticed definitive results from it? Are there any published controlled double-blind studies on using it for rhinitis? (I guess there would have to be, if in fact the FDA has approved it for that purpose.) Anyone know where one can read the studies? Can’t regular Singulair use over years have negative effects on the liver? What if one takes both Singulair and acetaminophen regularly? "Joy" <n…@nospam.com

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I am a 21 year old male suffering from Social Phobia.  I’ve tried drugs in the past, mostly SSRI’s, with no real success.  Some of the drugs I’ve tried I went off immediatly due to sexual side effects, mostly inability to feel pleasure while masturbating. The most recent drug, Zoloft, I went off due to the sexual side effect after 6-8 weeks.  The sexual side effect had occured almost immediatly but I stayed on it for a little while.  After the drug was out of my system I still felt like I wasn’t getting pleasure like I used to.  I also see that I am less interested in masturbating that I used to be. (No sexual partners involved, due to social phobia and all) Can these drugs have permanent effects on a person’s sexuality when you are off them?  The psychiatrist I used to see recommended that I go on the drugs even with the side effect to deal with my social problem.  A this point, I might have to consider it. Sidenote: The drugs I’ve had sexual side effects with are Effexor and Zoloft.

(Sadly), the sexual side effects with Effexor wear off pretty quickly (personally, I’m hoping for an anti depressant that causes me to lose all interested in sex, now that would be something). Without benzos in addition to it, sex drive will go back to normal in say 4 to 6 weeks whereas time to orgasm stays higher but it’s definitely possible after the first few weeks to get there.

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… I am a 21 year old male suffering from Social Phobia.  I’ve tried drugs in the past, mostly SSRI’s, with no real success.  Some of the drugs I’ve tried I went off immediatly due to sexual side effects, mostly inability to feel pleasure while masturbating. The most recent drug, Zoloft, I went off due to the sexual side effect after 6-8 weeks.  The sexual side effect had occured almost immediatly but I stayed on it for a little while.  After the drug was out of my system I still felt like I wasn’t getting pleasure like I used to.  I also see that I am less interested in masturbating that I used to be. (No sexual partners involved, due to social phobia and all) Can these drugs have permanent effects on a person’s sexuality when you are off them?  The psychiatrist I used to see recommended that I go on the drugs even with the side effect to deal with my social problem.  A this point, I might have to consider it. Sidenote: The drugs I’ve had sexual side effects with are Effexor and Zoloft. Any info would be appreciated.

i think it’s unlikely your side effects are permanent, because i experienced them continuously while taking paxil–we’re talking about a period of years–but as soon as i switched to lexapro the side effects were vastly reduced. besides lexapro, the other ssri to consider, as crackwalker pointed out, is luvox. when i decided to switch from paxil at the insistence of my new girlfriend, i told my MD i want to switch to luvox, but he said, oh no, take lexapro, so i did and the results have been excellent, although your mileage may vary. btw, if you’re curious about lexapro vis-a-vis luvox, luvox has been around much longer than lexapro, so presumably it’s not as effective as ssri’s go. lexapro, according to what i read, which might be pharm. co. propaganda, is a modified form of celexa. celexa basically contained two active components, only one of which is the ssri, so they deleted the other component that presumably caused lots of side effects to produce lexapro. good luck.

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I am a 21 year old male suffering from Social Phobia.  I’ve tried drugs in the past, mostly SSRI’s, with no real success.  Some of the drugs I’ve tried I went off immediatly due to sexual side effects, mostly inability to feel pleasure while masturbating. The most recent drug, Zoloft, I went off due to the sexual side effect after 6-8 weeks.  The sexual side effect had occured almost immediatly but I stayed on it for a little while.  After the drug was out of my system I still felt like I wasn’t getting pleasure like I used to.  I also see that I am less interested in masturbating that I used to be. (No sexual partners involved, due to social phobia and all) Can these drugs have permanent effects on a person’s sexuality when you are off them?  The psychiatrist I used to see recommended that I go on the drugs even with the side effect to deal with my social problem.  A this point, I might have to consider it. Sidenote: The drugs I’ve had sexual side effects with are Effexor and Zoloft. Any info would be appreciated.

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Hi I would try a.. Luvox/Fluvoxamine Its the only med in the ssri category  I can’t find anything on sexual dysfunction Crackwalker’ "question" <questionfor2…@yahoo.com

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Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer.  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer.  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

TRANSLATION: Hi all; I am at home for the weekend after all, beyond all expectations. I didn’t think I could do it, especially when this afternoon I got a PA in my pdoc’s office. It was a particularly nasty one, completely out of the blue. I called Philip earlier this week and told him how things stand. He will let you know. (Ha! Did that already! PP) Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will later. I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. I love you, my ASAP family! Diana

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[snipped]  I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. Yes we are behind you Diana. You sound better. Thanks Philip for translating, – Kinder

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Hi, Diana, It is great to hear from you.  You sound optimistic!  We are here for you and thinking of you all the time…  I am sending you strength to get through this rough time. smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer.  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

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Hi Diana- Just wanted you to know I was at temple tonight and i thought of you when we said a healing prayer. Be well. les. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer. En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

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Diana wrote……. Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will later. I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me.

Dear Diana, It is always wonderful to hear from you Good luck with the Effexor and remember that ASAP will always be behind you dear!~ {{{{{Diana}}}}} Jackie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer.  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

Dag dag dag Lieve Diana )))))))) Wat fijn dat je toch even naar huis mocht ! Ik hoop toch zo voor je,dat het vlug wat beter gaat. Je ‘klinkt’ een beetje beter. Wij hier staan altijd achter je !!! Zo dan. Je bent heel moedig. Veel grote kussen van Anna

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Hi Diana, Have no doubt…we are all behind you. I hope the  effexor works out for you. {{{{{{ Diana }}}}}} take care Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi all; I am at home for the weekend after all, beyond all expectations. I didn’t think I could do it, especially when this afternoon I got a PA in my pdoc’s office. It was a particularly nasty one, completely out of the blue. I called Philip earlier this week and told him how things stand. He will let you know. (Ha! Did that already! PP) Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will later. I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. I love you, my ASAP family! Diana

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all; I am at home for the weekend after all, beyond all expectations. I didn’t think I could do it, especially when this afternoon I got a PA in my pdoc’s office. It was a particularly nasty one, completely out of the blue. I called Philip earlier this week and told him how things stand. He will let you know. (Ha! Did that already! PP) Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will later. I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. I love you, my ASAP family! Diana

So glad to hear from you, Diana.  I will keep praying that the Effexor will work for you, and that you will feel better soon.  I think of you often. — Take care, Liz To everything there is a season …and to every season, a special beauty.

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Hoi Diana, Wat fijn dat je toch nog thuis bent gekomen dit weekend en ook nog even van je laat horen. Ik hoop ook dat het echt gauw beter met je gaat. Ook ik vind dat je wat beter klinkt. Ik ga voor je duimen dat het snel beter gaat en dat je gauw kan beginnen met de CBT. Aan jouw uithoudingsvermogen zal het in elk geval niet liggen. Blijf volhouden en natuurlijk blijf ook ik achter je staan. Ik wens je alle sterkte doe die je nu zo hard nodig hebt. Liefs, Francis althijs schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi allemaal; Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA aanval kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer.  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor staat, hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt je zo moe. En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien komt dat nog. Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven staan. Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. Liefs Diana.

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Diana,     You really do seem much better! We are all behind you and wishing you well. We care, and we do not forget you. Boyd

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: : Hi allemaal; : : Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. : Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA : aanval : kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer. :  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. : Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor : staat, : hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. : Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat : het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt : je zo moe. : En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. : IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien : komt dat nog. : Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven : staan. : : Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. : : Liefs Diana. : : TRANSLATION: : : Hi all; : I am at home for the weekend after all, beyond all expectations. : I didn’t think I could do it, especially when this afternoon I got a PA in my : pdoc’s office. It was a particularly nasty one, completely out of the blue. : I called Philip earlier this week and told him how things stand. He will let you : know. : (Ha! Did that already! PP) : Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will : happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. : I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. : I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will : later. : I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. : : I love you, my ASAP family! : : Diana :

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Thanks Phillip :  ) Diana, I’m glad to hear the you are home for the weekend. Are you able to sleep at night now ? I know when I was feeling very out of control and having panic attacks every day that I was able to relax by taking Xanax. Next I went to see a psychiatrist for the first time and he prescribed Zoloft and Clonazepam.  I’m still taking these two meds after 5 years and they do prevent me from having bad panic attacks. I always believed I would get better and I think that one’s attitude makes a big difference for any type of sickness. Everyone is cheering you on at ASAP and we want you to get better. You will get to the beach with Phillip this Spring :  ) Take care, Tony

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| | Hi allemaal; | | Ik ben toch nog thuis dit weekend, en dat boven alle verwachtingen. | Het leek er eerst niet erg op en al helemaal niet toen ik vanmiddag een PA | aanval | kreeg bij m’n Pdoc op de kamer. |  En die was zo ingemeen, het kwam totaal uit het niets. | Ik heb Philip nog gebeld deze week en heb ook verteld hoe het er nu voor | staat, | hij zal jullie het wel laten weten. | Volgende week gaat m’n Pdoc de Efexor verhogen, dus het is nog afwachten wat | het gaat worden. Ik hoop dat ik wat minder aan PA aanvallen krijg, het maakt | je zo moe. | En ik ken dan ook beginnen met de CBT, en dat is nu nog niet mogelijk. | IK ga nog te vaak op de run, en ik zie het nog niet erg zitten maar misscien | komt dat nog. | Ik weet wel dat ik het wil proberen, en vooral als jullie achter mij blijven | staan. | | Ik houd van jullie mijn asap family. | | Liefs Diana. | | TRANSLATION: | | Hi all; | I am at home for the weekend after all, beyond all expectations. | I didn’t think I could do it, especially when this afternoon I got a PA in my | pdoc’s office. It was a particularly nasty one, completely out of the blue. | I called Philip earlier this week and told him how things stand. He will let you | know. | (Ha! Did that already! PP) | Next week the doc will raise the Effexor dose so I have to wait what will | happen. I hope I will have fewer PA’s, they make me so tired. | I can then start CBT too which is not yet possible now. | I still run away too often and I am not feeling well at all but perhaps I will | later. | I know that I want to try, especially if you are behind me. | | I love you, my ASAP family! | | Diana | |

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Hi Sandra, I’m glad you’ve found something that works to help the problem.  Originally I started supplementing my daughter with the fish oil capsules because of the study that noted benefits for people with bipolar disorder (she was diagnosed at age and we didn’t get any behavioral improvements, but her handwriting went from illegible to legible over a few weeks.  For that benefit alone we’ve continued it.  The behavior has improved with age and hard work on her part (as well as the school’s part and ours).  At her IEP review this past week we all agreed that she no longer meets the criteria, and there was much rejoicing.  Not bad in light of the bipolar disorder. Do you take any non dietary inclusive fat supplements like fish oil or CLA? If not I’d be willing to bet Lee could steer you towards some helpful choices. Take care, Carmen

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Sandra, May I ask what causes your motor control problem?  My daughter has to take an antineuroleptic drug which causes a noticeable loss of fine motor control (especially in handwriting) that was greatly ameliorated by fish oil capsules (without counteracting the Neurontin’s positive side effects). Take care, Carmen Benign Essential Tremor, which has gotten progressively worse over the years, with some attending motor control problems that seem like, but are not, symptoms of multiple sclerosis. Basically it’s a  case of "these are the symptoms you have, but we can’t say what you have for sure." They went as far as diagnosing my niece with MS, but have backed off that diagnosis as the years have gone by. The use of high amounts of both water and fat have helped the problem a lot. Sandra I weighed in at 250 this morning, no surprise after a few days of illness, during which I took a carb break again, and my TOM. Two interesting things: My motor control lessened again. I’m having trouble using my mouse this morning. Last week the motor control was back after two days of going back to induction levels of carbs. But the carb break gave me the energy to continue performing through my illness this weekend. When the Renaissance festival is over, I’m going back to a two week induction period. For the summer, I am going to start charting everything, regarding intake and exercise, and set some limits to see if I can change my loss rate from 1 pound a week to two, or at least increase my inch loss a bit. I would love to be 235 by my birthday, Aug. 28. That would mean I would look about as I did when I reached my smallest size in 20 years, eight years ago. More later. Have a good week, everyone. Sandra lc since 1/15/01 four months gone! 40 pounds gone! 290/250/165

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Benign Essential Tremor, which has gotten progressively worse over the years, with some attending motor control problems that seem like, but are not, symptoms of multiple sclerosis. Basically it’s a  case of "these are the symptoms you have, but we can’t say what you have for sure." They went as far as diagnosing my niece with MS, but have backed off that diagnosis as the years have gone by.

My father has Benign Essential Tremor – it started showing when he was 18.   Mostly, it affects his hands and fine motor movements, but since he’s been in his 60s, I’ve noticed that his head shakes just a tiny bit, too. For him, it’s an annoyance and an occasional frustration.  By profession, he’s a stamp dealer, so he’s sometimes got a problem holding his tongs steady while examining a stamp.   He likes soup, but he has a very hard time holding the spoon still, so he usually passes on it unless it’s in a mug he can hold with his whole hand.   I got him a special spoon – but he didn’t care for it.  I still have it – I can send it to you, if you’d like.  It’s a bulky thing, but it has a velcro strap that fits over the hand, and the bowl stays level no matter what your fingers or hand does.  (Read more about it at: http://www.steadyproducts.com/) We work around some of the problems – at the office, I often write checks to people because his handwriting is getty shaky.  At Starbucks, the kids there (what a great bunch they are <g) bring him his coffee to his table, and they put it in a bigger mug for him (a tall in a grande cup).  We never ask him to pour coffee (although, admittedly, he’s not the parent who accidentally spilled a mugful on me <g). He’s very open about it – and if he sees you looking at his hands, he’ll bring it up first.  Because he *is* in his mid-60s, a lot of people mistake it for Parkinson’s – but it’s actually the opposite of it.  With Parkinson’s you can’t hold your empty hand steady, but if you grab something, it won’t move.  With Benign Essential Tremor, Dad can hold his hands steady as a rock, but if he picks up something, it’s very shaky. It does run through that side of the family – Dad, a couple of cousins – even my ex-brother whom I haven’t talked to him in years, but I saw him on "Jeopardy!" a few months ago, and boy, he was just one big twitch. I found a paper written by two mechanical engineers who had created a device called "a wearable tremor-suppression orthosis," and I wrote to them, but never heard anything back.  If you want to read the paper:         http://www.vard.org/jour/98/35/4/kotov354.htm If I ever stumble across anything else, I’ll let you know. Take care and be well! Myra

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Hi Sandra, May I ask what causes your motor control problem?  My daughter has to take an antineuroleptic drug which causes a noticeable loss of fine motor control (especially in handwriting) that was greatly ameliorated by fish oil capsules (without counteracting the Neurontin’s positive side effects). Take care, Carmen

Benign Essential Tremor, which has gotten progressively worse over the years, with some attending motor control problems that seem like, but are not, symptoms of multiple sclerosis. Basically it’s a  case of "these are the symptoms you have, but we can’t say what you have for sure." They went as far as diagnosing my niece with MS, but have backed off that diagnosis as the years have gone by. The use of high amounts of both water and fat have helped the problem a lot. Sandra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I weighed in at 250 this morning, no surprise after a few days of illness, during which I took a carb break again, and my TOM. Two interesting things: My motor control lessened again. I’m having trouble using my mouse this morning. Last week the motor control was back after two days of going back to induction levels of carbs. But the carb break gave me the energy to continue performing through my illness this weekend. When the Renaissance festival is over, I’m going back to a two week induction period. For the summer, I am going to start charting everything, regarding intake and exercise, and set some limits to see if I can change my loss rate from 1 pound a week to two, or at least increase my inch loss a bit. I would love to be 235 by my birthday, Aug. 28. That would mean I would look about as I did when I reached my smallest size in 20 years, eight years ago. More later. Have a good week, everyone. Sandra lc since 1/15/01 four months gone! 40 pounds gone! 290/250/165

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I weighed in at 250 this morning, no surprise after a few days of illness, during which I took a carb break again, and my TOM. Two interesting things: My motor control lessened again. I’m having trouble using my mouse this morning. Last week the motor control was back after two days of going back to induction levels of carbs. But the carb break gave me the energy to continue performing through my illness this weekend. When the Renaissance festival is over, I’m going back to a two week induction period. For the summer, I am going to start charting everything, regarding intake and exercise, and set some limits to see if I can change my loss rate from 1 pound a week to two, or at least increase my inch loss a bit. I would love to be 235 by my birthday, Aug. 28. That would mean I would look about as I did when I reached my smallest size in 20 years, eight years ago. More later. Have a good week, everyone. Sandra lc since 1/15/01 four months gone! 40 pounds gone! 290/250/165

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Hi Sandra, May I ask what causes your motor control problem?  My daughter has to take an antineuroleptic drug which causes a noticeable loss of fine motor control (especially in handwriting) that was greatly ameliorated by fish oil capsules (without counteracting the Neurontin’s positive side effects). Take care, Carmen

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I weighed in at 250 this morning, no surprise after a few days of illness, during which I took a carb break again, and my TOM. Two interesting things: My motor control lessened again. I’m having trouble using my mouse this morning. Last week the motor control was back after two days of going back to induction levels of carbs. But the carb break gave me the energy to continue performing through my illness this weekend. When the Renaissance festival is over, I’m going back to a two week induction period. For the summer, I am going to start charting everything, regarding intake and exercise, and set some limits to see if I can change my loss rate from 1 pound a week to two, or at least increase my inch loss a bit. I would love to be 235 by my birthday, Aug. 28. That would mean I would look about as I did when I reached my smallest size in 20 years, eight years ago. More later. Have a good week, everyone. Sandra lc since 1/15/01 four months gone! 40 pounds gone! 290/250/165

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Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa

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OMG I wrote bowel instead of bowl!!!!!!! Guess what I have on my mind! Red Faced and Cramped, Zedexa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa

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Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa

I’m so sorry you aren’t feeling well Zedexa!  I wish I could help you with the side effects of Zoloft, but I was only on it for one or two days, I think, and that was 5 yrs. ago.  I hope you feel better soon! Hugs, Di

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That’s always awful to suffer through, I’m sorry to hear your reacting that way!  Since you’ve been on the Zoloft and this was just an increase, hopefully it should clear up in a few days.  Maybe you have a stomach bug? The cramping sounds like it could be. Take care of yourself and drink plenty of fluids!  :) -Alan — Alan Derrick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa I’m so sorry you aren’t feeling well Zedexa!  I wish I could help you with the side effects of Zoloft, but I was only on it for one or two days, I think, and that was 5 yrs. ago.  I hope you feel better soon! Hugs, Di

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Hi Zedexa, I was very worried about this possible side effect, since my trigger on the anxiety was bowel related problems.  What I have done and been very religious about, is make sure I get loads of fiber in the diet.  I take care of this easily with All Bran cereal (you have to mix it up with another cereal you will actually like, or put other stuff in it).  I noticed a slight "loosening" of things when I began the zoloft, but have not had any D (knock on toilet bowl).  I’ve read that the bowel is a muscle, and in order to work it out, we need the fiber in there so it has something to clamp down on.  Maybe this will help. Mary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s always awful to suffer through, I’m sorry to hear your reacting that way!  Since you’ve been on the Zoloft and this was just an increase, hopefully it should clear up in a few days.  Maybe you have a stomach bug? The cramping sounds like it could be. Take care of yourself and drink plenty of fluids!  :) -Alan — Alan Derrick Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa I’m so sorry you aren’t feeling well Zedexa!  I wish I could help you with the side effects of Zoloft, but I was only on it for one or two days, I think, and that was 5 yrs. ago.  I hope you feel better soon! Hugs, Di

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Ok what is with Zoloft? I am constantly on the bowel. At this rate I’ll be the next Twiggy! Is it my nerves or what? I have been on Zoloft (100mg) for five years now and I was alright. I never experienced this kind of cramping and explosion before! Since the increase of Zoloft (50mg) all I have to say is, "LORD HELP ME." Anyway, gotta run (you know where!) Zedexa

Hi Zedexa, Zoloft, like all SSRIs, alters the movement of serotonin. While its target is the small amount used by the brain, it also affects serotonin pathways in the body. Most serotonin is actually made/used by the gut (about 95%), another few percent is found in blood vessels and the skin also contains some, especially if its injured (burns/sunburn/infection etc). It should settle down. If you have upped the dose by 50mg in one go, then you might want to cut back and ramp it up more slowly. However, get your doc to check on this, it may be something else. Probably not, but you never know. And if it becomes an ongoing problem, then  consider changing to a tricyclic. But, be warned, they usually cause the opposite effect – constipation. Good luck                                               Zu

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A neurologist once claimed that beta-blockers and benzos can be mixed if taken in moderation.  Has anyone taken propanolol (Inderal) and alprazolam (Xanax) together or any other mix?  Amounts?  Any noticeable interaction? Stan D.

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Hi Stan.  I am currently taking Inderal (10 mg) 3 times a day along with Alprazolam (.5 mg) 2-3 times per day.  I’m also taking Effexor XR (150 mg) per day and Ambien (10 mg) at bedtime.  Lots of meds!!  My doc just added the Inderal to the rest of my daily meds yesterday (on Wednesday)……..so I’ve only been taking it in combination with the rest for two days.  So far I haven’t noticed any negative interaction…. although I haven’t noticed any positive effect either.  I guess time will tell.  Sorry I couldn’t be of more help.   Sarah

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On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:50:55 +0200, "Stan D." <es…@swipnet.se

wrote: A neurologist once claimed that beta-blockers and benzos can be mixed if taken in moderation.  Has anyone taken propanolol (Inderal) and alprazolam (Xanax) together or any other mix?  Amounts?  Any noticeable interaction? Stan D.

im on klonopin paxil and atenolol, the atenolol i asked for because my heart would race a lot even on the benzo klonopin.  it has helped me not thinking about my heartbeat all day long.  ask for it.  oh, its safe to combine the drugs together also.

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Thanks Sarah and Hadez for comforting feedback on mixing beta-blockers and benzos.  This sounds viable then. Stan D. Stan D. skrev i meddelandet … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

A neurologist once claimed that beta-blockers and benzos can be mixed if taken in moderation.  Has anyone taken propanolol (Inderal) and alprazolam (Xanax) together or any other mix?  Amounts?  Any noticeable interaction? Stan D.

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Sounds good where can I get some? Russ. Stan D. <es…@swipnet.se

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A neurologist once claimed that beta-blockers and benzos can be mixed if taken in moderation.  Has anyone taken propanolol (Inderal) and alprazolam (Xanax) together or any other mix?  Amounts?  Any noticeable interaction? Stan D.

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Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.  as well as I have some questions….

Edward from Florida says …. A real good place to start is Dr Ivan Goldberg’s Depression Central:   http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html Edward Reid

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Hi Ray I saw your post and wanted to let you know you are reaching me hey it does not matter how old you are to get your life in order hope that you get yourself together and do what is right for you no matter what anyone else thinks take care and good luck

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PLEASE don’t give up on all mood stabilizers! If your diagnosis is correct, an anti-depressant alone could trigger a manic episode.  I too was left dazed and confused by lithium and others. My work as an engineer requires alot of mental concentration and use of math and sciences…stuff I had taken for granted had become increasingly difficult, even the simplest tasks!  I now take Lamictal (300mg) and Effexor(75mg) with Klonepin(.5mg) for sleep.  Welbutrin made me near-anorexic (the very smell of food made me gag) and the closest to suicidal that I have ever been!  I literally had to beg my pdoc to switch me back to Effexor…he kept increasing Welbutrin despite my insistance that it was not working for me…because, he said, it is a "very good" drug.  Well, there are no good drugs/ bad drugs, just ones that work better or worse for an individual!  Too often pdocs loose site of the patient sitting before them. Good luck with whatever you decide, but I’d consider Lamictal if you haven’t already tried it. Desiree’

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Welcome…..feel free to talk away. CJ<telescope down

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Amy, Thanks!  Wonder if that means I’m addicted to the ole B/F  . . .   I’m going to look up that book.   (o: — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain.  <snip

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Hey there! Today I decided I wasn’t going to be a victim anymore and feel bad anymore from meds so I could keep a job and have no excuses for excessive absences.  I think I have been misdiagnosed as BPII.  I think I suffer from chronic depression and anxiety just like everyone else in my immediate and extended family. Right now I am depressed, but anyone would be after losing their job AGAIN and this time out of the blue after buying a 2 unit house.  That kind of depression there are no pills for you just get through it and move on. I have stopped taking my tegretol, but keeping my klonopin and periactin so I can sleep at night for now. Seeing my pdoc tomorrow, telling her about my decision and asking for her support to manage my anxiety and sleeping.  I also want her to think about what anit-depressant I may need to use in the future.  Wellbutrin sounds good especially since I have had such a lack of energy and brain power since I’ve been on mood stabilizers.  I hate them because they slowed my brain down and I couldn’t think or do complex tasks or remember anything.  I couldn’t do math or find words or spell.  I used to be so with it.   I hope now I can get better, think better, work better, love better and live better.  I am going to enjoy life!!!!!!  I am going to feel happy for the first time in 8 years. Wish me luck! Lisa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me:  I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better.  My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend.  I find spending time with him enjoyable.  Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet.  Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Hi Ray,       welcome,there’s some good advice here. I’m 51 still don’t have my shit together.                                           Take Care                                                     Caddy

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Welcome Ray from mississippi    I was off of work for 8 weeks late last year,  I dont know what your suspended means?  Is it a leave of absence?  I need more info to answer this better.    Welcome again you will find this group helpful maybe you just posted before on a bad day ..always, Treacha ..as the twig bends…so the tree grows…

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You go girl. Lisa, mom of FF. "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption

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Ray Wilson wrote : Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi well  dont think i got a responce from my last post  and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup….  I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting  today is the 27th at 5:00  pm   exactly

I see ya, loud and clear, welcome. I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.

YOu are in the right place. < as well as I have some questions….  My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week..  I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ???  Do I have any rights ???  what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???

Well, I’ll leave all that to the others who are knowledgeable. <  God I feel so lost and alone  almost too embarrased to tell anyone..  I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont

Well, you know what my mama used to tell me? " Honey, it’s not a sin to get lice, it’s a sin to keep it."  You are headed in the right direction. <…. I reall would like to hear from anyone  just seeing this note  so that i know its going out….   well Im not a big talker  just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again).  this is really new to me….  thanks in advance  - Ray

That’s my story, and I’m stickin’ to it.  Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption snipped all underneath.

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Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi well  dont think i got a responce from my last post  and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup….  I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting  today is the 27th at 5:00  pm   exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.  as well as I have some questions….  My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week..  I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ???  Do I have any rights ???  what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???  God I feel so lost and alone  almost too embarrased to tell anyone..  I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone  just seeing this note  so that i know its going out….   well Im not a big talker  just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again).  this is really new to me….  thanks in advance  - Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Hello Ray, welcome to the group. (so obviously I see your post ) A lot of people here know a great deal about your rights and about meds, but I think you’ll have to be a bit more specific. What kind of pills are you taking? Sounds like you were recently diagnosed.  This really is the right place to come for information and for support.  Sometimes it just takes a while-there’s SO many posts…… Hang in there and take care, Amy Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi well  dont think i got a responce from my last post  and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup….  I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting  today is the 27th at 5:00  pm   exactly

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 Yes, you do have job rights. As a first step, check (or better yet, have a friend at work check if you can) what the standard company policy is for sick leave for any illness. For example, you may have 3 months to get back to your existing job, 6 months to get back to an "equivalent" job. It doesn’t matter what the illness is, so your friend doesn’t have to specify he/she is asking on your behalf or about your illness. If your company doesn’t have a written policy (but I bet they do), then you may have to do some further searching for an answer. But, start with the simple question first.  Also, you said "suspended," but I am assuming extended sick leave. Is that what you mean? Hope this helps – I’ve been through this, too, as have a lot of people in this group. Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi ….  My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week..  I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ???  Do I have any rights ?

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Ray,     1) Be sure to tell your doctor you think they are setting you up at work.     2) Be sure to read the NAMI (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) homepage (www.NAMI.org ) Read the part about the Americans with Disabilities Act and "reasonable accomodations", in case this applies to your situation.     Good luck and welcome to the newsgroup. — walleye – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi well  dont think i got a responce from my last post  and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup….  I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting  today is the 27th at 5:00  pm   exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.  as well as I have some questions….  My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week..  I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ???  Do I have any rights ???  what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???  God I feel so lost and alone  almost too embarrased to tell anyone..  I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone  just seeing this note  so that i know its going out….   well Im not a big talker  just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again).  this is really new to me….  thanks in advance  - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Got your post.  Welcome.  This is a great group. Kathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray  from  Mississippi well  dont think i got a responce from my last post  and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup….  I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting  today is the 27th at 5:00  pm   exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.  as well as I have some questions….  My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week..  I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ???  Do I have any rights ???  what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???  God I feel so lost and alone  almost too embarrased to tell anyone..  I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone  just seeing this note  so that i know its going out….   well Im not a big talker  just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again).  this is really new to me….  thanks in advance  - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Kathy,  I hope it works out for you.    Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me:  I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better.  My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain.   Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend.  I find spending time with him enjoyable.  Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet.  Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday.  She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot.  I like that.  Also a little cautious.  She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider.  She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin.  She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up".  Well something like that.  Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it.  I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now.  Wish I had more to write to all of you.  Love to you all! Kathy

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There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain.  Most of it is about addictions, but there were parts on how being with people helps (and why-chemically) and how even altruistic behavior can have an effect on ….o heck, I WAS doing good there.  It is either dopamine or seratonin.  But both are "feel good" ones, right? Take care, Amy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me:  I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better.  My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend.  I find spending time with him enjoyable.  Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet.  Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer.

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hi people , i’m new to this group. just a little short question here. my therapist prescribed some SSRI (luvox) together with some benzo to help me with my general anxiety problems ( which has been on going for a few years by this time ). i was just wondering how would an SSRI being an anti-depresent help me in an anxiety situation. will it help alleviate the axiety indirectly ? has anyone ever got to suppress the extreme anxiety they suffer,  through combination of benzo and anti-dep ? thanks. btw, are there any anxiety support groups in singapore ?

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Kelvin schreef: hi people , i’m new to this group. just a little short question here. my therapist prescribed some SSRI (luvox) together with some benzo to help me with my general anxiety problems ( which has been on going for a few years by this time ). i was just wondering how would an SSRI being an anti-depresent help me in an anxiety situation. will it help alleviate the axiety indirectly ? has anyone ever got to suppress the extreme anxiety they suffer,  through combination of benzo and anti-dep ? thanks. btw, are there any anxiety support groups in singapore ?

Hi Kelvin UND welcome at ASAP, Many antidepressants, among which the SSRI-class, are first choice meds for anxiety. The combo with a benzo (which one do you have prescribed?) is a common and sensible one. You should give Luvox about 6-8 weeks max. to kick in. You may experience some side effects like heigtened anxiety in the first few weeks, although the benzo will probably take care of that. Philip

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: hi people , i’m new to this group. Hello, Welcome to ASAP! : just a little short question here. my : therapist prescribed some SSRI (luvox) together with some benzo to help me : with my general anxiety problems ( which has been on going for a few years : by this time ). i was just wondering how would an SSRI being an : anti-depresent help me in an anxiety situation. will it help alleviate the : axiety indirectly ? has anyone ever got to suppress the extreme anxiety they : suffer,  through combination of benzo and anti-dep ? thanks. SRIs (same as SSRIs) are called antidepressants simply because that is what such medications were first used for. SRIs address problems with serotonin balance, and serotonin balance is sometimes the cause of depression and/or anxiety disorders. Benzodiazepines, on the other hand, address problems with another hormone/neurotransmitter called cholecystokinin (CCK), which can also be a cause of anxiety disorders. It is typical for benzos to be prescribed with SRIs. Basically, as your body adjusts to the SRI, your serotonin levels will go through some changes, and this can result in changes of CCK as well. In such cases, the benzo helps control the CCK during this adjustment period. It’s also important to note that in some cases serotonin balance may not be the cause of an anxiety disorder. Some cases seem to be much more related to CCK. In such cases, SRIs seem unnecessary and the disorder may be best treated with a benzo alone. : btw, are there any anxiety support groups in singapore ? I don’t know. Singapore is a bit outside of my neighborhood. (I live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US)                                         Best Wishes,                                         Arthur

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hi people , i’m new to this group. just a little short question here. my therapist prescribed some SSRI (luvox) together with some benzo to help me with my general anxiety problems ( which has been on going for a few years by this time ). i was just wondering how would an SSRI being an anti-depresent help me in an anxiety situation

Kelvin All cases are different.  In my case, I was prescribed some ativan to take until the SSRI I took kicked in.  I was on zoloft which I have weaned myself off of, to go on 5-HTP which seems to be doing the trick without all the side effects of zoloft. The SSRI you are on, lovox, I am not familiar with, but I am sure if your doctor knows you have anxiety attacks, that SSRI will help.  Zoloft helps with anxiety and depression, but takes about 6 weeks to kick in.  Once it kicked in, I was able to wean, VERY SLOWLY, off of the ativan.  In fact, I will never take ativan again, since it was so hard to get off of. sharryn

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hi people , i’m new to this group. just a little short question here. my therapist prescribed some SSRI (luvox) together with some benzo to help me with my general anxiety problems ( which has been on going for a few years by this time ). i was just wondering how would an SSRI being an anti-depresent help me in an anxiety situation. will it help alleviate the axiety indirectly ? has anyone ever got to suppress the extreme anxiety they suffer,  through combination of benzo and anti-dep ? thanks. btw, are there any anxiety support groups in singapore ?

I was on Prozac for three years for pretty severe anxiety.  It worked very well, though it took a while for it to take care of all my anxiety.  Then it pooped out on me (which SSRIs tend to do), and left me in quite a bind psychologically.  (I should also say that I suspect that when it pooped out it actually made my anxiety worse–my anxiety now is worse than it was before I had started Prozac.)    This is just my opinion, of course, but I think that for long-term treatment of anxiety, benzos are a better bet than SSRIs.  We know that benzos are safe, they have fewer side effects, and they don’t poop out.  But, if there is depression along with the anxiety, an SSRI or an SSRI and a benzo together are a good choice. Though many doctors would rather keep someone on an antidepressant long-term for anxiety rather than a benzo, you might want to think about going with just the benzo after things stabilize with the anxiety (in 6 months to a year or so).  Again, I’m not a doctor, but I’d much rather be on something I know is safe long term than take my chances with something that is such that we don’t know its long-term effects.  (I myself am on Zoloft and a benzo right now for anxiety and depression caused by the anxiety, but in six or so months (given that the depression lifts) I plan on going with just the benzo. Anyway, good luck with your treatment! Best, Matt

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