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Please, does anyone know of a source besides Ford for Power Door Lock actuators. Howabout a way to disable them so the door lock wont stick in the open position? Anybody have any info on these?

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Please, does anyone know of a source besides Ford for Power Door Lock actuators. Howabout a way to disable them so the door lock wont stick in the open position? Anybody have any info on these?

I get mine at the local junkyard. Usually about $5 each. if you just want to disable them, remove the actuator arm(probably easier to pull the motor out).

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Please, does anyone know of a source besides Ford for Power Door Lock actuators. Howabout a way to disable them so the door lock wont stick in the open position? Anybody have any info on these?

Any stereo shop that installs alarms will have generic actuators that I’m sure you can make work in place of the Ford units. I doubt these aftermarket ones are better than the stock Ford pieces though. My experience with them is that they can be very hard to turn with the key, unless of course they’re hooked into the alarm and you never have to use the key… Tom Shaver Powerdyne + TW

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You can easily remove them if you don’t want them installed or if their causing problems with the normal operation of the key unlocking/locking the door from the outside.  You’ll have to remove the door panels.  They’re fastened in a plastic brace by little rubber boots.  Once you see the actuator you’ll notice how easy it is to remove.  If you want to replace them but don’t want to pay FORDMOCO’s price for new ones I replaced mine by going to a junk yard/spare parts yard and they found some for me for 20 bucks a piece.  Works great! Like new.

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~ ~Please, does anyone know of a source besides Ford for Power Door Lock ~actuators. Howabout a way to disable them so the door lock wont stick in ~the open position? Anybody have any info on these? ~ ~Any stereo shop that installs alarms will have generic actuators that I’m sure ~you can make work in place of the Ford units. I doubt these aftermarket ones are ~better than the stock Ford pieces though. My experience with them is that they ~can be very hard to turn with the key, unless of course they’re hooked into the ~alarm and you never have to use the key… ~ ~Tom Shaver ~Powerdyne + TW ~You can easily remove them if you don’t want them installed or if ~their causing problems with the normal operation of the key ~unlocking/locking the door from the outside.  You’ll have to remove ~the door panels.  They’re fastened in a plastic brace by little rubber ~boots.  Once you see the actuator you’ll notice how easy it is to ~remove.  If you want to replace them but don’t want to pay FORDMOCO’s ~price for new ones I replaced mine by going to a junk yard/spare parts ~yard and they found some for me for 20 bucks a piece.  Works great! ~Like new. For cars that weren’t originally equipped with power door locks, is the necessary wiring already in the door?  I’ve been toying with the idea of installing them on my LX so I can get one of those lazy-man FOBs connected to the alarm to lock/unlock the doors from inside when it’s cold/rainy and such.  :-) Chris — Christopher Mauritz         | For info on internet access: IBS Interactive, Inc.       | http://www.interactive.net/

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simion wrote:

I know the feeling. I get the willies when I visit my family. Can hardly hold a cup of tea.

Good one.

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, Smoove B

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writes I have tremors also, but my doc diagnosed them as familial tremors.

I know the feeling. I get the willies when I visit my family. Can hardly hold a cup of tea. But also, being chronically tense, as many obsessional people are, can cause the muscles to tremble. That’s my experience anyway. — simon

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From: "Mike" mikea…@nobody.net This is something that has bothered me ever since I was a teenager.  I’ve never been able to figure it out, so I thought I would post about it here. Anyway, I have this problem with tremors, and fine motor problems in general.  I first noticed it as a teenager, when lying on my side on the bed, propping my head up with my hand and arm so I could read my homework assignment.  I noticed that I couldn’t move my arm or hand smoothly without causing tremors in the muscles being used for that motion.  Subsequently I learned that this is made much worse when the muscles in question have been stressed (such as propping my head up, or carrying a heavy shopping bag.) Also, the more "strength" I put into the motion, the more exacerbated the tremors. As an example, imagine the motion involved with twisting the throttle on a motorcycle.  That movement induces tremors in my hand, particularly if I tense those muscles, or if they’re tired. Also, I’ve always had some fine motor control problems in other ways – my movements seem more "jerky" than other people.  Course, maybe I’m just obsessing over it (I have OCD, after all.) It doesn’t appear that anyone has ever noticed these symptoms, so I don’t want to exaggerate them.  It doesn’t really affect me, other than just making me curious as to the cause. I’ve done some reading in the past, and my symptoms don’t match Parkinson’s or other similar diseases.  The closest match I can find is the diagnosis of "Essential Tremor", which really isn’t a "true" diagnosis at all, but just a catch-all for tremors without any other obvious cause. Just curious if anyone knows if this type of thing is more common among those with OCD and/or Tourette’s?  I.e., could the same chemical imbalances related to these disorders also have an impact on fine motor control? Thanks, Mike

Hi Mike. Curious question to me ! My son is the one in the family with TS – tics only (and is now 22). But ET, Essential Tremor, runs in my family. My father has it, my sister, my brother, and me. All to different degrees. My dad and sister have very shaky hands. People have asked me if my sister has Parkinson’s due to her shaky hands. My brother and I have it very mild where you just see a paper shake if I am holding it up with  unsupported arms. My sister is now in a study with a neurologist who is doing research to see if there is a connection between ET and Parkinson’s. In fact, I was going to call him and see if he treats TS patients, as well. He is so wonderful! He dxed my father with hydrosephalus (sp?), water on the brain, when all other doctors threw up their arms and gave up. So no answers for you, but seems plausible about your theory. Jan

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This is something that has bothered me ever since I was a teenager.  I’ve never been able to figure it out, so I thought I would post about it here. Anyway, I have this problem with tremors, and fine motor problems in general.  I first noticed it as a teenager, when lying on my side on the bed, propping my head up with my hand and arm so I could read my homework assignment.  I noticed that I couldn’t move my arm or hand smoothly without causing tremors in the muscles being used for that motion.  Subsequently I learned that this is made much worse when the muscles in question have been stressed (such as propping my head up, or carrying a heavy shopping bag.) Also, the more "strength" I put into the motion, the more exacerbated the tremors. As an example, imagine the motion involved with twisting the throttle on a motorcycle.  That movement induces tremors in my hand, particularly if I tense those muscles, or if they’re tired. Also, I’ve always had some fine motor control problems in other ways – my movements seem more "jerky" than other people.  Course, maybe I’m just obsessing over it (I have OCD, after all.) It doesn’t appear that anyone has ever noticed these symptoms, so I don’t want to exaggerate them.  It doesn’t really affect me, other than just making me curious as to the cause. I’ve done some reading in the past, and my symptoms don’t match Parkinson’s or other similar diseases.  The closest match I can find is the diagnosis of "Essential Tremor", which really isn’t a "true" diagnosis at all, but just a catch-all for tremors without any other obvious cause. Just curious if anyone knows if this type of thing is more common among those with OCD and/or Tourette’s?  I.e., could the same chemical imbalances related to these disorders also have an impact on fine motor control? Thanks, Mike

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I have tremors also, but my doc diagnosed them as familial tremors. Brandon "Mike" <mikea…@nobody.net

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This is something that has bothered me ever since I was a teenager.  I’ve never been able to figure it out, so I thought I would post about it here. Anyway, I have this problem with tremors, and fine motor problems in general.  I first noticed it as a teenager, when lying on my side on the bed, propping my head up with my hand and arm so I could read my homework assignment.  I noticed that I couldn’t move my arm or hand smoothly

without

causing tremors in the muscles being used for that motion.  Subsequently I learned that this is made much worse when the muscles in question have

been

stressed (such as propping my head up, or carrying a heavy shopping bag.) Also, the more "strength" I put into the motion, the more exacerbated the tremors. As an example, imagine the motion involved with twisting the throttle on a motorcycle.  That movement induces tremors in my hand, particularly if I tense those muscles, or if they’re tired. Also, I’ve always had some fine motor control problems in other ways – my movements seem more "jerky" than other people.  Course, maybe I’m just obsessing over it (I have OCD, after all.) It doesn’t appear that anyone has ever noticed these symptoms, so I don’t want to exaggerate them.  It doesn’t really affect me, other than just making me curious as to the cause. I’ve done some reading in the past, and my symptoms don’t match

Parkinson’s

or other similar diseases.  The closest match I can find is the diagnosis

of

"Essential Tremor", which really isn’t a "true" diagnosis at all, but just

a

catch-all for tremors without any other obvious cause. Just curious if anyone knows if this type of thing is more common among those with OCD and/or Tourette’s?  I.e., could the same chemical

imbalances

related to these disorders also have an impact on fine motor control? Thanks, Mike

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I have been prescribed Zoloft for anti-anxiety/depression,,,,,my psych normal dose? will i be sleepy? I am concerned about forgetting passwords, etc….does that happen? Will I be a zombie? Thanks!

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50 mg Zoloft is what I started at and am now up to 100 mg.  Some meds do tend to make people tired or a little more anxious temporarily but in time the side effects wear off. Of course, YMMV…  Best wishes. smiles, Elise

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I also started out on 50mg, and after two weeks my psych upped it to 100mg. It seems to be helping, it just takes a few weeks.  Drowsiness is a side-effect, but you shouldn’t be too worried.  I would love to tell you that I don’t get tired from it but I’m not sure, I’m tired a lot but I don’t think it’s from the meds. Good luck, lots of smiles,     Robin

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I have been prescribed Zoloft for anti-anxiety/depression,,,,,my psych normal dose? will i be sleepy? I am concerned about forgetting passwords, etc….does that happen? Will I be a zombie? Thanks!

This is asking for trouble, starting at such a high dose will heigthen your anxiety and add other side effects that are temporary in the vast majority of cases and this might scare you off a potentially helpful med. Your pdoc should know better. The recommended starting dose of Zoloft for anxiety sufferers is 12.5 mg. Stay there for a week or so and then raise the dose in weekly increments of 12.5 mg (or at whatever pace is comfortable for you) until you have reached a therapeutic dose. Having a benzo like Xanax or Ativan to take *as needed* on the side at least during the weaning period will help too. *Start low, go slow* and you will have far fewer initial side effect problems. You should give Zoloift up to eight weeks to kick in – although most people get to feel better much earlier. Philip

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50 mg Zoloft is what I started at and am now up to 100 mg.  Some meds do tend to make people tired or a little more anxious temporarily but in time the side effects wear off. Of course, YMMV…  Best wishes. smiles, Elise

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I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M

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I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M

Hi,  I wonder why you are on both Zoloft and Welbutrin? Do you have any kids? Do you know if Margo Hemingway is related to Ernest? She went out the Hemingway too didn’t she? hope you feel better soon.

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Welcome to ASD. I understand how you are feeling. You can talk about things here. And you will most likely make friends here. Stan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M

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I know, people think that misfortune is like a disease. Everyone was all over me while I was pregnant, and nobody wants to come near me since my son has died, except the ones who really matter. It hurts though. Some people are ignorant assholes. That is really horrible shit to go through. Do anything for yourself that makes you feel better, the meds, talk therapy, a whole tub of chocolate icecream… You deserve it. Your husband’s actions would make a lot of people feel worthless, but I hope you know you’re not, now, and taking the initiative in leaving him was a step in the right direction, in building a new life for yourself where _you_ are important. The same thing happened to my best friend’s mother, she also lost her father to cancer and her husband cheated on her and is now living with the other woman. She did go through a really depressed period where she was hospitalised and tried to take her life, but now she’s studying fine art and is a much happier and more successful person than she ever was with her husband. It does happen, but give yourself time, and love. What doesn’t kill you will eventually make you stronger, so for now I too am just concentrating on staying alive. Amy

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Hi M I’m taking 40mg Prozac and two hundred mg Welbutrin now for the past 30 days or so.  I think that I’m feeling better, but that just may be the Glenn Livet. I see many parallels in your story to mine, although I have *always* had a predisposition toward clinical depression. This is a good place to be.  You will find that just "being" with similarly afflicted souls will make you feel better (at least that is my experience). Welcome.  Read, and post whne you feel like it. -=oc=-

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Hope you feel better soon, but just thought that I would add that Wellbutrin kept me awake for 2 weeks before I gave up.  Just something to keep in mind. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M

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Well, a man is only as faithful as his options…I guess it’s their payback for being the buyer in the dating game….since women have a sex life while men have ’sex years’.  But you can get a little satisfaction from the probability that he’ll do the same thing to her….who know’s, maybe you stole him from one upstream?  But what are we supposed to make stop?  If you don’t want pain, avoid humans. They’re always gonna disappoint.  Get a dog…..or you can be unoriginal like 99.9% of the other women pet owners on the planet and get a cat. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M

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  Margaux Hemingway was a granddaughter of Ernest.  She died from an overdose of sedatives, probably Klonopin per CNN.  She was the fifth person in her family to suicide. sad. Erminia

yes very sad, seems like a legacy for them. it just shows how suicide causes more suicide.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently taking Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Neurontin and Dalmane.  I lost my father to terminal lung cancer in March 2000, my husband of 20 years left me 4 months later for someone he’d been having an affair with for quite some time which I was unaware of. We are now divorced ( I initiated it) and he will no longer speak to me as per his significant other. I am in therapy, but feel as though I have reached the end of my rope. There are no friends to call any more, not that there were in the beginning. No one likes bad news apparently it is contagious. What can I do to keep going with feeling lilke I’m going to "Hemingway" every morning. Thanks for any response. M Hi,  I wonder why you are on both Zoloft and Welbutrin? Do you have any kids? Do you know if Margo Hemingway is related to Ernest? She went out the Hemingway too didn’t she? hope you feel better soon.

Margaux Hemingway was a granddaughter of Ernest.  She died from an overdose of sedatives, probably Klonopin per CNN.  She was the fifth person in her family to suicide. sad. Erminia

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Hi, I’ve been a low-fat type person for a long time.  The last six months I’ve been on Paxil and have gained some weight.  The low fat diet isn’t helping me.  Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb?  Thanks! Thought of the day:         Give a man an inch, and he thinks he’s a ruler.

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Hi Dosbabe! I’ve been on Prosac for over a decade, happily, and have had some good results.  I not one of the fastest losers, but I’ve managed to take off about 50 pounds. The only side effect that I seem to have is an increased thirst and difficulty waking up in the mornings.  My sleep has become very, very deep. Good luck! suzi_cream_cheese 262/213/145

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Yeah I’m taking zoloft and doing fine. According to Schwarzbein (TheSchwarzbein Principle), A low carb diet will help balance out the chemical soup inside your head. She claims insulin resistance= high carb diet,  is one of the things that unbalance and deplete serotonin in your brain. Which is the same thing that antidepressants try and balance. Give it a try. After talking with your Doc. first.

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Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose. hinesrance

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Funny you mention that, because I missed my Effexor dose this morning and am curious as to what the results are going to be. Only been on it for about 2 months so may not be too noticeable. I haven’t noticed any side effects as far as appetite goes. Definetly make me sleepy though Jason Atkins since 10/5/00 240/172 http://geocities.com/calabresejason/lowcarb.html

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Is Effexor one of the older type antidepressants or is it related to the same family as Paxil? Thanks I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Thought of the day:         Count Every Thorn a Flower; Every Sharp Rock a Milestone

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Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb?

I was on Prozac when I first started just over 3 years ago.  It didn’t hinder my losing 60 pounds. I tried Imiprimine last month for help with sleep as I have fibromyalgia.  I couldn’t take it as it made me sweat and also caused terrible sweets cravings. I’ve been on Trazodone for 10 days and am not having any problems so far. Good Luck. TamH in VT

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

A gal came into my gift shop today and we were talking about diet.  She said that she started on Efflexor a few weeks ago and has lost weight because she’s not craving carbs.  She’s not even really dieting. TamH in VT

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Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

My daughter was also on Paxil and gained weight she didn’t need.  She stopped using Paxil and went to Prozac and has had no problems and lost all the weight she gained.  I’ve been on Prozac since 1989 and haven’t had any problems with it either.  I gained a lot of weight when I stopped smoking (50lbs) and  being sick and inactive for so long.  I would suggest you talk to your Dr. about a different antidepressant.  Paxil has a rep for putting on the pounds. — Liz 362/342/200/135 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -^..^<

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Well, I took effexor for 3 days and slept like in a coma.  Could not stay awake.  When I did finally manage to awaken, I walked around like a zombie with a spinning head.  Now, my daugher in law takes it and she only has to take naps everyday after work. — Liz 362/342/200/135 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -^..^< hinesrance Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

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I am on Zoloft and am experiencing continued weight loss. You might see if your doctor would switch you. Ginger in OK

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ginger, menu and exercise? — read and post daily! rosie "If we could share this world below, if we could learn to love… If we could share this world below, we’d need no world above."

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am on Zoloft and am experiencing continued weight loss. You might see if your doctor would switch you. Ginger in OK Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb? I was on Prozac when I first started just over 3 years ago.  It didn’t hinder my losing 60 pounds. I tried Imiprimine last month for help with sleep as I have fibromyalgia. I couldn’t take it as it made me sweat and also caused terrible sweets cravings. I’ve been on Trazodone for 10 days and am not having any problems so far. Good Luck. TamH in VT

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Travis, I currently take Zoloft as well and I have never heard about this kind of side effect. My friend suffered with seizures over the last ten years and was told he was epileptic but it turns out he had a brain tumor and went to the Mayo Clinic to have it removed. Maybe a MRI as requested by your doctor would rule this out? Maybe Benzo’s wouldn’t help you because you were reacting to Zoloft withdrawal, Klonopin would be worth a try now to see if it helps. Good Luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you take an anti-seizure medication? I tried it (before i chose to stop the Zoloft a while back) but it didn’t help at all.

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Why on earth would you continue to take a drug that caused seizures? Why would any competent doctor prescribe it? Do you take an anti-seizure medication?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I get seizers from Zoloft. Unfortunately, it was the only medication that did anything to help. Since I restarted my medication, I have only passed out three times. But then again, I am not yet at full dosage yet (started at 25mg, increase by 25mg every other week until I reach my needed dose of 200mg). Probably once I get to full dose, I will start the shakes more often. It’s somewhat funny really, I am partially conscious the whole time. I hear but can’t see. I feel but feel no pain. It really freaks people out when it happens in public. Their all like "what do I do?" and stuff. AT least I know when I am going to have one. I just feel somewhat dizzy and seem to emit some sort of mediciney odor (smells like opening a new bottle of medicine). I usually have enough time to prepare, such as setting down the glass of water I may be holding, or sitting down, or whatever. I have yet to get hurt from it. When I fall, it is more of a slow slumping. Anybody else get this type of reaction to Zoloft? ~Travis — My Web: http://www.megalink.net/~farmers/ Gaming section yet to be finished. MT Bike section almost fully compleated. (trail pics work now)

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No offense, man, but I wish I hadn’t read this. Does your doc know? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I get seizers from Zoloft. Unfortunately, it was the only medication that did anything to help. Since I restarted my medication, I have only passed out three times. But then again, I am not yet at full dosage yet (started at 25mg, increase by 25mg every other week until I reach my needed dose of 200mg). Probably once I get to full dose, I will start the shakes more often. It’s somewhat funny really, I am partially conscious the whole time. I hear but can’t see. I feel but feel no pain. It really freaks people out when it happens in public. Their all like "what do I do?" and stuff. AT least I know when I am going to have one. I just feel somewhat dizzy and seem to emit some sort of mediciney odor (smells like opening a new bottle of medicine). I usually have enough time to prepare, such as setting down the glass of water I may be holding, or sitting down, or whatever. I have yet to get hurt from it. When I fall, it is more of a slow slumping. Anybody else get this type of reaction to Zoloft? ~Travis — My Web: http://www.megalink.net/~farmers/ Gaming section yet to be finished. MT Bike section almost fully compleated. (trail pics work now)

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Deb, When I first started Zoloft, I had migraines for about the first two weeks.  My Dr. told me tha this is a very common side effect of Zoloft and does subside after  about two weeks….It was very very hard those first two weeks, but I managed to survive it, and after that, was fine….to this day, don’t know how I did survive it ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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Yikes! Migraines for two weeks?!?!?! How awful for you. I take 150 mgs of Zoloft daily and my experience has been good. No headaches. No decrease at all in either sexual desire or the ability to achieve orgasm (my lover has always said I am the most orgasmic woman he’s ever known… I attribute this to his skill <g). Also, the Zoloft has not unduly affected my appetite, which is good since I run to the underweight side anyway. Prozac and Paxil both killed my appetite completely. Of course, everyone is affected differently.

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One of the most reported side effects of Prozac (or any SSRI) is that of sexual dysfunction.  The higher the dose, the more likely you will experience this side effect.  So….if RSD does cause sexual dysfunction…and…the large amount of Prozac you are taking causes sexual dysfunction…   Well, it seems like you’re dealing with a double whammy. Hope you are able to take something like Viagra to overcome this! Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The prozac was prescribed by Dr. Robert L. Knobler, One of the foremost authorities in RSD and neurological diseases. If you care to dispute that with him, feel free to do so. He is an MD, Phd, psychiatrist and the professor of neurology at the Thomas Jefferson College Of Medicine. In Philadelphia, Pa. Julio This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Deb, I’m not a Pharmacist, but I did take Prozac on two different occasions, and do know some.  A dose of 60mg daily of Prozac is a good healthy dose.  Many people start off at 20mg and stay there for a long time or indefinitely.  Also Prozac can take 6-8 weeks before it starts working, so you may not have given it enough time.  Remember, that 6-8 weeks is an average…some may respond faster, while others take longer to respond. May I ask, who Rx’ed the Prozac to you? Someone else just posted about higher doses should really only be Rx’ed by a Psychiatrist who knows all about the drugs.  On the other hand, Prozac just may not have been the drug for you.  I have been on different Antidepressants (AD’s) over the years, be it for pain, depression, or both (some of the AD’s are also used to treat pain…Elavil, the other tricyclics, ad a new one out called Effexor, which is what I take now….).  Some have worked well, while others didn’t do a thing.  Paxil didn’t work at all for me, while Zoloft worked well, but stopped working completely after about two years, even after increasing the dose. Hope this has helped some…please email me off list if I can help you with anythihng else, or you just want to chat, vent, whatever ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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One anti depressant that isn’t supposed to affect libido is Wellbutrin….. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call.  Uh … wait.  Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Joani I read your post and had to giggle thanks for the uplifting post and I couldn’t agree with you more even at 44 Your the best deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead!  If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!!  Joani

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K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call.  Uh … wait.  Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead!  If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!!  Joani

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The only anti-depressants that I’ve tried were the tricyclics (but I went through over a half-dozen of them) and in anything near an effective dosage, libido wasn’t the only problem — every one of them (and the others I suppose too) are psycho-active drugs and every one of them produces personality changes, after all, they ARE psycho-active drugs. The common side-effects are loss of libido, a general tranquilizing effect (that can be quite severe), and a sometimes separate loss of "will-power". And several of them also have cardiac side effects too. I also found that with Elavil (amytriptaline ?sp?) that the dry-mouth was intolerable in the dosage I required (100 mg).         Norm

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Howard thanks a million for your input! deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard Aloha! Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so.  Maybe not. Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)   -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Ty thanks for the input I know I have alot of side affects from different ones.. weight gain to headaches etc and I was just trying to get all the imput possible before asking the dr for another type. deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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 It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Each antidepressant is a little different, and individual reactions differ, but Luvox is very similar to Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and others. It is prescribed less often because it is more likely to cause problems with nausea, and it is only labled for obsessive-compulsive disorder, though this is stricly a marketing ploy. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Prozac is well-known to reduce sexual interest, interfere with orgasm, etc. Same is true for other members of Prozac family, including Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, probably Effexor. Celexa might be better. Not clear yet. Other antidepressants don’t interfere with sexual interest, but the "tricyclic antidepressants" do often cause weight gain. Elavil, Tofranil, Pamelor, and others. (These are brand names. They have all gone generic, but the generics are harder to spell. amitriptylene is one of them. nortriptylene is another. imipramine is a third.) Antidepressants that don’t often cause weight gain and don’t normally interfere with sexual interest include Serzone and Wellbutrin, also Remeron, but watch out for weight gain, and trazadone (brand name is Desyrel). Maybe a few others I didn’t think of. There is a recent trend to help chronic pain sufferers with Depakote and Neurontin, particularly Neurontin. It’s labeled as an anticonvulsant, but has several good psychiatric uses. HTH. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha! Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again.  At least, I think so.  Maybe not. Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)   -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Hello Everyone I hope you all are having a pain free day.. My question is can anyone give me advice about anti-depressants that do not mess up your sexual urges? Thanks deb/fl

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Aloha!
Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question?
Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing.
So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again.  At least, I think so.  Maybe not.
Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Thanks Suse I was also under this impression however I have heard that they have new meds on the market that help with that problem I have seen the commercials on tv about it and just wondered if anyone from the group had tried any of them and how they thought they worked compared to the conventional anti-depressants deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha! Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so.  Maybe not. Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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I was wondering if anyone is living with person who has Attention Deficit, my husband was diagnosed 2 years ago, he is currently taken ritailin sr 20 mg twice a day. He still has mood swings and alot of other symptoms, I am trying to be real strong but sometimes he can be real harsh  with his words.  I just want someone who can understand and give adivce to me. Shannon    

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Tell his MD to recommend an SSRI like Prozac, Effexor, Paxil or Zoloft. These are mood stablizers and can balance out the mood swings.

I agree:  I have found that I was much less irritable when I was on Prozac, and then Effexor; I didn’t feel it neccessary to express anger towards people by snapping at them.  Being on SSRI’s made me a lot more laid back in general, so that things that I would normally fume about just didn’t get to me. From this post and your previous one, it sounds like your husband could really benifit.  I think I remember you saying that he had been on an antidepressant at one point.  Since stimulants often result in irritability as a side effect (particularly a reboud effect), the combonation may really suit your husband.

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Tell his MD to recommend an SSRI like Prozac, Effexor, Paxil or Zoloft. These are mood stablizers and can balance out the mood swings.  

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kevin wrote… Tell his MD to recommend an SSRI like Prozac, Effexor, Paxil or Zoloft.

If his MD is anything like me, you won’t be able to tell him anything. Sincerely, Dr. Jackass, M.D.

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Some of the meds that have been recommended so far are worth checking out.  My advice when it comes to your husband’s mood swings is to let him be by himself, if possible.  I wouldn’t advise trying to "talk sense" into him.  When someone is in a mood swing they do not think rationally and they will only say things that are mean and hurtful, things that they (most of the time) will later regret.  So try to get out of the house by taking a long walk, visiting a friend, or seeing a movie, etc.   When I lived at home, my dad would have mood swings (which he still does).  I would just make up any excuse to get out of the house so that he wouldn’t turn around and focus his anger on me.  By the time I got back he, usually, was in a good mood. – Mike       – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was wondering if anyone is living with person who has Attention Deficit, my husband was diagnosed 2 years ago, he is currently taken ritailin sr 20 mg twice a day. He still has mood swings and alot of other symptoms, I am trying to be real strong but sometimes he can be real harsh  with his words.  I just want someone who can understand and give adivce to me. Shannon    

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Yes but if he/she is like MINE he will ASK what the patient thinks is a good idea. kevin wrote… Tell his MD to recommend an SSRI like Prozac, Effexor, Paxil or Zoloft. If his MD is anything like me, you won’t be able to tell him anything. Sincerely, Dr. Jackass, M.D.

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I used to try to get my hubby into "a better mood". Guess what? : ) I think Mike has some real good ideas. And it does help to remember that he doesn’t get into these moods on purpose, or just to annoy you, he can’t help it. Try not to take things too personally. Lisa- wife to ADD hubby and two ADHD sons – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some of the meds that have been recommended so far are worth checking out.  My advice when it comes to your husband’s mood swings is to let him be by himself, if possible.  I wouldn’t advise trying to "talk sense" into him.  When someone is in a mood swing they do not think rationally and they will only say things that are mean and hurtful, things that they (most of the time) will later regret.  So try to get out of the house by taking a long walk, visiting a friend, or seeing a movie, etc.

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Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep!  At least I think I did.  Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning.  I’m hoping that using a little pharmy assist just for sleep for the next 3 or 4 days will see me all the way through the rest of Effexor withdrawal. I’m hoping that I am *not* just putting it off, but my doc tells me I have no reason to worry about that.  Otherwise, some dizziness once up and about, but that is nothing compared to the wild nights of yesteryear.  I may be OK now.  Whew.

Good, now stop being such a bitch around here and get the stupid block off your email. I’ve missed you. Mary Beth "Real friends let friends drive naked."

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Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep!  At least I think I did.  Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning.  I’m hoping that using a little pharmy assist just for sleep for the next 3 or 4 days will see me all the way through the rest of Effexor withdrawal. I’m hoping that I am *not* just putting it off, but my doc tells me I have no reason to worry about that.  Otherwise, some dizziness once up and about, but that is nothing compared to the wild nights of yesteryear.  I may be OK now.  Whew.

Mark, Glad to hear that you found something to help you get through this. Hopefully, you’ve been through the worst of it. chuck

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Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep!  At least I think I did.  Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning.

Glad to hear that, Mark.  I hope you don’t have to stay on the Valium for more than a few days also.   I think I remember you (?) saying something about trying to drink lots of water to help clear out your system.  I was also wondering if getting out for walks and fresh air helps get the Effexor out of one’s system more quickly. (I really don’t know, but it seems like it might.) Btw, I have to tell you about a dream I had about you (nothing like your nightmares, thankfully), but it was kind of funny, and I think you’ll appreciate the humor in it.   Dream:  I was typing a response to one of your posts, BUT the catch was that I was totally blind (or blindfolded?) and had to spend hours replacing my hands on the "base keys" to keep my place.  Then, I would forget whether I had backspaced to correct errors (and I remembered thinking…geez this can’t have typos in it!) and, I could never re-read anything I typed.  I’m generally a good typist so this was a very frustrating dream.   It seemed like it did go on for hours.  hehehe…  I guess my posts do sometimes too. I was going to tell you about this the next day, but that was the same day that you posted a goodbye to asd message.  Weird.   Take it easy, Mark.  Hopefully you’ll keep posting (and I’ll try not to be too blind in any of my responses) <g Leah

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Jeff writes  (lots snipped): "I’m not sure what to do. I think it’s time to try this but I’m nervous. Maybe I’m not really depressed. I’m not sick, am I? Disease? I don’t have any disease, I’m just kinda sad. Um, maybe I’m just tired or something." When I was in the hospital the first time (1983?) the first thing they did was give me  a blood test, which was supposed to show whether I was depressed or not.  All I could think, until the results came back, was "What if I’m _not_ depressed!  What if they won’t try to help me!  THEN what am I supposed to do?"  I smile at this, now, but I was so miserable then, and I was so tired of trying to figure it out by myself.   "See I’m worried that I’m making the "easy" move. That I’m giving up the fight." I didn’t take meds for about 11 years, after that first hospitalization. I did stay with my shrink for 3 years.  I fought all that time.  Fighting wore me out, and I finally gave in and tried Zoloft.  It was a big help, that first time around, but I stopped taking it and life almost immediately threw me a series of curve balls that I couldn’t hit back. Now I’m taking it again (31 days in, now) and I’m noticing this time how it helps me to fight, but without allowing me to stop.  I still have to use all of the resources I learned in therapy to keep going.  And life is still hard.  But it is a little easier with Zoloft than without.  I highly recommend it.   "And what about side effects?" Zoloft has never made me sleepy.  It seems to make me wake up faster, in fact.  Sometimes I get sorta edgy, but I’m not sure if that’s me or the med.  The most noticable side effect I’ve had is occasional diarhea, but I’d trade chronic depression for that anyday. "The truth is I do want to try this. I think it can work. I think that if it does work I might have the strength to fight back and put my life where I’d like it to be. I think that if I battle the biological agents of this disease I can learn to live with the psychology of  my world. (Of course I worry that I’m setting myself up for a fall.) I am kind of excited, because I feel like maybe I’m starting to help myself." Here is something you wrote to me when I first started posting here.  It might bear re-reading: "Right now I’m coming to terms with my depression. Instead of being one of the walking wounded, I’m trying to get better….To tell you the truth, I’m not sure if anyone wants to read what I say. I’m not sure if they’ll respond. But I’m going to do it anyway. Because I want to try to help myself." Since you wrote that, I have watched you go through your first therapy session, publish an article (which, BTW, I really enjoyed), and now you’re going on meds.  I am very, very proud of you.  You really ARE doing everything you can to help yourself, and I feel confident that you will win this fight.  Keep it up, and keep us posted. My one real piece of advice about Zoloft is to remember that it may seem to do _nothing_ for several weeks.  Hang in there during that time, even if you get sad or frustrated.   Cheering for Jeffrey, marijo

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Jeff said: I’m not sure what to do. I think it’s time to try this but I’m nervous. Maybe I’m not really depressed. I’m not sick, am I? Disease? I don’t have any disease, I’m just kinda sad. Um, maybe I’m just tired or something. Maybe I should try meditating like my friend said. See I’m worried that I’m making the "easy" move.  That I’m giving up the fight.

Naturally you need to do what seems right to you, so this is not an attempt to "talk you into something", but just some insight from someone who "has been there".  OK?  (Not twisting your arm, and everyone is different, so your mileage may vary.) Five months ago I was pretty much a basket case.  I had been waging my own fight against depression, and I was losing the fight _big time_.  Wasn’t functioning well at work or at home, losing weight, couldn’t sleep, and just a wreck. I finally decided that this battle was not a "do it yourself" project, and went to see my GP.  He diagnosed depression, gave me a prescription for Zoloft, and referred me to a psychologist. Within a couple of weeks it was clear I was winning the battle I had been trying to fight for years (I am in my late 50’s) with no success. I was again functional, although maybe still a bit "fragile", and in a few more weeks it really was hard to remember how bad I felt for years.  Now, 5 months later, I no longer visit the therp and am easing down on my Zoloft.  I can only kick myself for waiting so long! It’s not a "miracle" cure….  just taking the pill will not work by itself, but it gave me that extra help that I needed.  I also used meditation, a lot of physical exercise, and the support of my family.  Also, the folks here at ASD were a big help, even if they didn’t know it since I have never posted here before, just lurked. Those areall tools I will continue to use, and hopefully I can go from here without medication, but I will not hesitate to go back to Zoloft if it seems I am "losing it". And what about side effects? Am I asking for more trouble than I’ve already got? And is Zoloft the right one? You guys say it makes you sleepy. She said the good thing about it is that it doesn’t make you sleepy. (I know everyone’s different)

In my case the side effects were minimal.  Didn’t make me sleepy, but did have an effect on my sex life.  No loss of desire or "ability" or enjoyment, but it just "takes longer". (At my age, everything takes longer! <grin) Are the side effects really that bad?

Not in my case. Does it matter if it beats back the depression?

Most of the side effects I’ve heard of would be much less painful than the depression. Just a final thought.  The meds do not work "overnight".  In my case it took a couple of weeks, and I’ve heard that it can take even longer before you really notice a dramatic change, although just  "finally doing something about it" will probably give you a better attitude. Hang in there! "I used to wish the universe were fair.  Then one day it hit me:  What if the universe were fair?  Then all the awful things that  happen to us in life, would happen because we deserved  them.  So now I take great pleasure in the general hostility  and unfairness of things." — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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Ok, so I finally got my Phych. appointment. We talked for a while and she ultimately reccomended that I give meds a shot. My therp also reccomends. She wants to go with Zoloft. She thinks that it has the least interactions and she’s had the most success with it. So she gave me the prescription.

When I was seeing a psych, that was what my scrip was; no side effects for me, wonderful mental clarity- I finally had a glimpse of what I believe a normally functional brain was like- for me it was like living in a parallel universe.  I know you’ve been hanging out here long enough to appreciate ‘YMMV’ if you’ve read many posts about ADs. Its entirely possibly Zoloft may do nothing for you, or you might have any one or several side effects, or a different AD might finally turn out to be effective for you, or none- but ya gotta start somewhere.  I know that after some recent experience with St. John’s wort, I’d go back to Zoloft in a flash if I could afford it.    I’m not sure what to do. I think it’s time to try this but I’m nervous.

Yup- I was nervous too, didn’t like the idea of taking something that was going to mess with my brain chemistry- but when I gave myself a chance to consider the alternative, which was sinking back into a suicidal place, unable to respond to talk therapy, it wasn’t really a hard choice for me.                Maybe I’m not really depressed. I’m not sick, am I? Disease? I don’t have any disease, I’m just kinda sad. Um, maybe I’m just tired or something. Maybe I should try meditating like my friend said.

Stop, stop- you’re making me grin & I’m s’posed to be depressed! Well, if you’re tired, try taking a nap- maybe you’ve tried that?  ;-) ; if you’re not really depressed (chemically), Zoloft most likely won’t have any effect on your mental state (unless it happens to be ineffective for you).  Unlikely that meditating would do any harm- for me it is calming, good for racing thoughts, confusion- but I’ve not noticed its made much of a dent in my depression.                                                                                                           See I’m worried that I’m making the "easy" move. That I’m giving up the fight.

I wonder about this with myself too.  But if you stay in therapy, commit yourself to keep working- & it seems that your therp should track how you’re doing.  I have noticed that some ppl experience an emotional "flatness"/ difficulty in accessing their feelings that could be a hindrance.  Or the meds could work great for you, so you just maintain on the meds & decide to loaf in or quit therapy- been there- eventually it caught up to me again.  I just think you have to keep those possibilities in mind & consult w/ your therp. And what about side effects? Am I asking for more trouble than I’ve already got? And is Zoloft the right one? You guys say it makes you sleepy. She said the good thing about it is that it doesn’t make you sleepy. (I know everyone’s different) Accckkkkkkk!    The truth is I do want to try this. I think it can work. I think that if it does work I might have the strength to fight back and put my life where I’d like it to be. I think that if I battle the biological agents of this disease I can learn to live with the psychology of  my world.

Exactly- that was my experience with meds and therapy                     (Of course I worry that I’m setting myself up for a fall.) I am kind of excited, because I feel like maybe I’m starting to help myself. Are the side effects really that bad? Does it matter if it beats back the depression?

Keep in mind when you read posts about side effects here or in Dejanews that ppl who experience the downside are much more motivated to write about that experience than those who have  a relatively easy experience (I’ve never written a post "WOW! Zoloft’s free of side effects!")  IOW, the sample is hopelessly skewed-  not to say that any one persons experience isn’t valid _for them_- or any 5 ppls experience. I think that as with so much in life- you just have to experience it- theory and other ppl’s words are no match for your doing it.  Chances are the right med (not necessarily Zoloft) is going to be a help.  If it doesn’t help, yeah, it could be disappointing.  Its a risk, but no way a foolish one.  Hope it works for you  :-) Take care,             FanMan You shall be free indeed when your days   are not without a care nor your nights without a want and a grief, But rather when these things girdle your life and yet you rise above them naked and unbound.  -K. Gibran

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Ok, so I finally got my Phych. appointment. We talked for a while and she ultimately reccomended that I give meds a shot. My therp also reccomends. She wants to go with Zoloft. She thinks that it has the least interactions and she’s had the most success with it. So she gave me the prescription.         I’m not sure what to do. I think it’s time to try this but I’m nervous. Maybe I’m not really depressed. I’m not sick, am I? Disease? I don’t have any disease, I’m just kinda sad. Um, maybe I’m just tired or something. Maybe I should try meditating like my friend said. See I’m worried that I’m making the "easy" move. That I’m giving up the fight. And what about side effects? Am I asking for more trouble than I’ve already got? And is Zoloft the right one? You guys say it makes you sleepy. She said the good thing about it is that it doesn’t make you sleepy. (I know everyone’s different) Accckkkkkkk!         The truth is I do want to try this. I think it can work. I think that if it does work I might have the strength to fight back and put my life where I’d like it to be. I think that if I battle the biological agents of this disease I can learn to live with the psychology of  my world. (Of course I worry that I’m setting myself up for a fall.) I am kind of excited, because I feel like maybe I’m starting to help myself. Are the side effects really that bad? Does it matter if it beats back the depression? I’d really like to here from some of you on this. You’ve been there. I’m going. And I’m scared.                         Thanks,                                         Jeff (who will be checking e-mail & asd in like                                       4 minutes for responses)                                         (and who probably expects too much) "I don’t know where I’m going, but I’m on my way"-carl sandberg

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