i did literature search using Medline this afternoon, in between the patients ! But i did not find any article on "flovent and acne" or "flovent and rash" or "flovent and skin" good luck with aerobid. yatin j patel md http://md4lungs.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – –WebTV-Mail-24826-3781 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Thanks for your response. My doctor put me on Aerobid about two weeks ago. So far I seem to be doing alright on it. Then again, I have been on an antibiotic, as well as O2. I finish it tonight. We shall see. However, I still have the red bumps. Perhaps they will clear up with time. I must tell you that I have COPD. Scaring on my left lung since childhood,bronchitis, and asthma. I became sick four years ago. Had to be hospitalized for a week, and was sent home with the O2. I was on it for about two months. Had to go back on two weeks ago. I checked out your website. I will be visiting often. We all use the same treatments and medications. –WebTV-Mail-24826-3781 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit <html<clock</clock</html –WebTV-Mail-24826-3781–
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Thanks for your response. My doctor put me on Aerobid about two weeks ago. So far I seem to be doing alright on it. Then again, I have been on an antibiotic, as well as O2. I finish it tonight. We shall see. However, I still have the red bumps. Perhaps they will clear up with time. I must tell you that I have COPD. Scaring on my left lung since childhood,bronchitis, and asthma. I became sick four years ago. Had to be hospitalized for a week, and was sent home with the O2. I was on it for about two months. Had to go back on two weeks ago. I checked out your website. I will be visiting often. We all use the same treatments and medications.
have you tried other steroid inhalers like aerobid or pulmicort? yatin j patel md – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – –WebTV-Mail-14553-2611 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I do use a spacer. I do not have red bumps around my mouth, I have acne on my face, (not around my mouth) and red bumps on my arms and legs. When I am on this medication for very long periods my neck also turns red. When it first happened my pulmonary doctor sent me to a dermatologist, he said it was from sun and weather. When I went off it I cleared up. I know this is going to sound crazy, but when I first go off Flovent I can breathe better. Unfortunately I have to go back on it. I would like to know if any one using inhaled steroids has been diagnosed with hypohyroidism. I was diagnosed with it about six months after starting Flovent. It may or may not be a factor, but I can’t see inhaling anything can be good for my thyroid. My doc says no. After all they know best. If I sound fed up, it’s because I am. They just don’t listen. I’m scared. Any ideas? Thanks….. –WebTV-Mail-14553-2611 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit <html<clock</clock</html –WebTV-Mail-14553-2611–
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I’m also very, very fair-skinned. Blonde hair, lashes, brows. I have never had zits, but I did have "follicle infections" due to a hormone imbalance … but that was 25 years ago! My doctor at that time told me to wash my face, rubbing the sores til they bled, and then apply Polysporin ointment. Even with the ointment, it took a month or more for each sore to heal. Birth control pills helped the hormone problem and the sores (of course, if you’re male…. ignore this advice). This time it’s not hormones. I do use a spacer. I got desperate over the weekend and I used Victoria Principal’s blemish buster on each sore. They’re about 50% improved overnight. I’m also overweight, but I blame that on developing asthma 2 years ago and not being able to exercise as often as I want/need. I thought about seeing a dermatologist, but what’s the use of being on tetracycline when I’m still on Flovent? I’m on a 4-week tapering program. My allergist wants me off Servent BEFORE going off Flovent. So next week I stop the Serevent, and then 2 weeks later (if I survive), I try going off Flovent … no inhalers. But I’m on a double-dose of Claritin (2 a day). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I have been lurking for months, afraid to post. Your post on Flovent prompted me to take the plunge. I have had the same problem. Was on Flovent for three years. Have had acne, and small red raised bumps on my legs and arms. Every time I go off the Flovent I clear up. My pulmonary doctor changed me to another steroid, Aerobid. However, I am afraid it is not any better. I hate the steroids. I am 40lbs. over my normal weight. I don’t even recognize myself. I was also told it was non-related. I have very fair skin, this may have something to do with it. I feel some doctors are not educated on the side affects of some of these drugs. That’s why we have to educate ourselves. Just wanted you to know you are not alone.
Hello, I am so glad you posted. This is a support newsgroup…please don’t be afraid to be involved. I will admit it gets pretty intense at times, but most folks here are in the same boat. We have asthma and we use this newsgroup as a method to exchange information and to share experiences, plus gain some support if we happen to be having a hard time with our illness or meds. There is no one person here that has all the answers, but all are willing to try and help. Glad to see you here! I also gained weight after starting meds….I don’t know why. I have always been a thin kind of girl, but not now. :o( I work out whenever I have the breath and do pretty well most times. To me it’s a real battle and hits in the old self esteem area pretty hard. I just keep doing the best I can. Take care, Patrice
Hi, I have been lurking for months, afraid to post. Your post on Flovent prompted me to take the plunge. I have had the same problem. Was on Flovent for three years. Have had acne, and small red raised bumps on my legs and arms. Every time I go off the Flovent I clear up. My pulmonary doctor changed me to another steroid, Aerobid. However, I am afraid it is not any better. I hate the steroids. I am 40lbs. over my normal weight. I don’t even recognize myself. I was also told it was non-related. I have very fair skin, this may have something to do with it. I feel some doctors are not educated on the side affects of some of these drugs. That’s why we have to educate ourselves. Just wanted you to know you are not alone.
I do use a spacer. I do not have red bumps around my mouth, I have acne on my face, (not around my mouth) and red bumps on my arms and legs. When I am on this medication for very long periods my neck also turns red. When it first happened my pulmonary doctor sent me to a dermatologist, he said it was from sun and weather. When I went off it I cleared up. I know this is going to sound crazy, but when I first go off Flovent I can breathe better. Unfortunately I have to go back on it. I would like to know if any one using inhaled steroids has been diagnosed with hypohyroidism. I was diagnosed with it about six months after starting Flovent. It may or may not be a factor, but I can’t see inhaling anything can be good for my thyroid. My doc says no. After all they know best. If I sound fed up, it’s because I am. They just don’t listen. I’m scared. Any ideas? Thanks…..
Hi, I have been lurking for months, afraid to post. Your post on Flovent prompted me to take the plunge. I have had the same problem. Was on Flovent for three years. Have had acne, and small red raised bumps on my legs and arms. Every time I go off the Flovent I clear up. My pulmonary doctor changed me to another steroid, Aerobid. However, I am afraid it is not any better. I hate the steroids. I am 40lbs. over my normal weight. I don’t even recognize myself. I was also told it was non-related. I have very fair skin, this may have something to do with it. I feel some doctors are not educated on the side affects of some of these drugs. That’s why we have to educate ourselves. Just wanted you to know you are not alone.
Using flovent inhaler without a spacer would increase the oral deposition of the medicine. This may predispose one to those bumps on the skin around the lips. In article Nope, not on prednisone, and I don’t have a history of acne. In fact, I’ve always been complimented on my porcelain skin. That’s why this is a horrific experience for me. are you on prednisone also? because i take flovent and serevent, and only get the redness and welts when i’m on the prednisone also…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you have a history of acne? PErhaps you have developed it and it is totally unrelated to the asthma. Two doctors tell me that the dozens of pimples/sores on my face are not related to Flovent, yet the Flovent insert mentions follicle infections as a rare side effect. It cleared up when I was on antibiotics for a sinus infection but it came right back. I went off Flovent for 2 weeks and saw minor improvement, but my asthma doc said I could not be on Serevent without being on Flovent, so I had to go back on Flovent. He wants me to wean off both eventually, if possible. In the meantime, I’m using an antibiotic ointment called MetroGel on my face, but it only controls the severity of the welts; it doesn’t make it go away. Anybody have a similar experience? Any hope?
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are you on prednisone also? because i take flovent and serevent, and only get the redness and welts when i’m on the prednisone also…
Nope, not on prednisone, and I don’t have a history of acne. In fact, I’ve always been complimented on my porcelain skin. That’s why this is a horrific experience for me. are you on prednisone also? because i take flovent and serevent, and only get the redness and welts when i’m on the prednisone also… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Do you have a history of acne? PErhaps you have developed it and it is totally unrelated to the asthma. Two doctors tell me that the dozens of pimples/sores on my face are not related to Flovent, yet the Flovent insert mentions follicle infections as a rare side effect. It cleared up when I was on antibiotics for a sinus infection but it came right back. I went off Flovent for 2 weeks and saw minor improvement, but my asthma doc said I could not be on Serevent without being on Flovent, so I had to go back on Flovent. He wants me to wean off both eventually, if possible. In the meantime, I’m using an antibiotic ointment called MetroGel on my face, but it only controls the severity of the welts; it doesn’t make it go away. Anybody have a similar experience? Any hope?
Do you have a history of acne? PErhaps you have developed it and it is totally unrelated to the asthma. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two doctors tell me that the dozens of pimples/sores on my face are not related to Flovent, yet the Flovent insert mentions follicle infections as a rare side effect. It cleared up when I was on antibiotics for a sinus infection but it came right back. I went off Flovent for 2 weeks and saw minor improvement, but my asthma doc said I could not be on Serevent without being on Flovent, so I had to go back on Flovent. He wants me to wean off both eventually, if possible. In the meantime, I’m using an antibiotic ointment called MetroGel on my face, but it only controls the severity of the welts; it doesn’t make it go away. Anybody have a similar experience? Any hope?
Two doctors tell me that the dozens of pimples/sores on my face are not related to Flovent, yet the Flovent insert mentions follicle infections as a rare side effect. It cleared up when I was on antibiotics for a sinus infection but it came right back. I went off Flovent for 2 weeks and saw minor improvement, but my asthma doc said I could not be on Serevent without being on Flovent, so I had to go back on Flovent. He wants me to wean off both eventually, if possible. In the meantime, I’m using an antibiotic ointment called MetroGel on my face, but it only controls the severity of the welts; it doesn’t make it go away. Anybody have a similar experience? Any hope?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive:yes x-no-archive:yes The crappiest part of working a real late-night shift is seeing the sun come up in the morning while you’re still there. Ugh. There’s just something about that that feels wrong, no matter what. Sure, before I started this shift I would see the sunrise from home, but it’s different in some way when you’re sitting at a desk and look up to see the horizon turning that pale pinkish-grey colour. There’s something spiritually uncomfortable about it. 
It is worth it, though. My team started working in the new building last night, and we got our pick of desks. I have a nice, roomy cubicle and sit by my hubby, right across from another woman I’ve become very good friends with. I’ve never had my own cubicle before. It makes me feel so employed! It’s *my* cubicle that I don’t have to timeshare with anyone else. Now I can brighten it up with pictures of my kitties. 
oooh. i’m jealous. i want a cubicle. It’s fun. Except my computer is white. At the other building we had sleek, sexy black computers, and now we have generic looking whitish ones. Ah, well. Black would have clashed with the baby-poo yellow of the walls, I suppose.
Gosh! It never crossed my mind to think how the color of my computer in my office goes with the color of the walls. Is it because I am a boy??? One month, three days, 8 hours, 22 minutes and 2 seconds. 858 cigarettes not smoked, saving $133.10. Life saved: 2 days, 23 hours, 30 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive:yes The crappiest part of working a real late-night shift is seeing the sun come up in the morning while you’re still there. Ugh. There’s just something about that that feels wrong, no matter what. Sure, before I started this shift I would see the sunrise from home, but it’s different in some way when you’re sitting at a desk and look up to see the horizon turning that pale pinkish-grey colour. There’s something spiritually uncomfortable about it. It is worth it, though. My team started working in the new building last night, and we got our pick of desks. I have a nice, roomy cubicle and sit by my hubby, right across from another woman I’ve become very good friends with. I’ve never had my own cubicle before. It makes me feel so employed! It’s *my* cubicle that I don’t have to timeshare with anyone else. Now I can brighten it up with pictures of my kitties.
Hey, I have a cubicle too. But it is so small, that it would be too personal to have a visitor in there, LOL. One month, three days, 8 hours, 14 minutes and 56 seconds. 858 cigarettes not smoked, saving $133.08. Life saved: 2 days, 23 hours, 30 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
I am now on 150 mg of Effexor, but it is only temporary. I have been on 75 mg since a couple of years ago, and there is no side effect which gives me problems. I am also on Risperdal, and recently my pdoc changed it for Zyprexa and I noted an increase of my sexual libido, so I am not sure if Effexor is lowering my libido. What I can say is that when I was married I didn’t find I needed more sexual drive than I actually had. If you find any annoying side effects from Effexor, most surely they’ll disappear in something like a week. — Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Eat the sandwich to email http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
Hi Keith. I deal with a difficult to treat depression and after trying several ADs I tried Prozac and found it helped me quite a bit for nearly two years. At least until I got hit with the infamous "Prozac poop-out". Maybe that is what hit you as well? Anyway, when it stopped working and sent me into one of the worst depressions I can remember my pdoc put me on Effexor XR. After building up to 150mg over a couple of weeks I actually started feeling better. I continued to improve and was beginning to think this may be a miracle med for me. It helped my depression much like Prozac had at first but seemed to somehow be ’smoother’ in the way it pulled me out of depression without some of the side effects I sometimes had on Prozac. That is until I started feeling not so good physically but I wasn’t sure what was wrong. I eventually had my blood pressure checked and found that it was way too high. (like 180/205) I ended up back at the pdocs and also seeing my regular medical doctor. I had read that Effexor could raise blood pressure in some people. Guess I’m one of the lucky ones. To be fair I had previously had some minor blood pressure problems that had been treated and corrected. I also have a family history of blood pressure/heart problems. I had told my pdoc about this but he said the chances of this causing me such problems were slim. I am not trying to scare you about Effexor because I think it is a great med and I wish I could stay with it. But I did want to let you know to at least be aware of this possibility and if you are not sure have your blood pressure checked once in awhile. As far as treating depression goes, this helped me a lot with very few other side effects. Good luck and I hope it helps you as much as it helped me only without the blood pressure problem! Bonnie
Wellbutrin doesn’t cause sexual side effects! Effexor XR worked great for me but is a TOTAL b*tch to withdraw from – even if you miss one day you get nauseated and sick – bad news! It also caused sexual side effects for me, as does Celexa – I would avoid both Celexa and Effexor XR and go for the BuSpar or try Wellbutrin. ~Melissa
Wellbutrin doesn’t cause sexual side effects! Effexor XR worked great for me but is a TOTAL b*tch to withdraw from – even if you miss one day you get nauseated and sick – bad news! It also caused sexual side effects for me, as does Celexa – I would avoid both Celexa and Effexor XR and go for the BuSpar or try Wellbutrin. ~Melissa
But thats your response to Effexor Melissa. Everyone is different. I have been on Effexor XR now for about 3 months. Last weekend I missed my first daily dose, I was staying at a friends house and was so busy with things going on that I just forgot to take my Effexor. I experienced no side effects at all – none. The next day I took my usual dose of 75mg without noticing anything out of the ordinary. I don’t think you can’t lump everyone into the same catagory – people respond differently. So far Effexor XR has helped me a lot.
My wife has been suffering from daily anxiety for some time now. It may be related to her diagnoses of multiple sclerosis over a year ago; her menopausal phase; or her hypothyroidism. After taking hormone replacement therapy and synthroid for the thyroid problem, she still has daily anxiety. She has been treating it with Ativan but her doc recommend an anti-depressent. Here’s the problem: her GP recommends Celexa; her neurologist recommends Effexor; and her psychiatrist recommended Buspar (and maybe a second drug as well.) She tried Prozac years ago and it worked well except she lost all interest in sex or orgasm was near impossible. My question is…can anyone give some insight into possible side effects of the 3 ADs mentioned? What might she expect? What about withdrawl from them? Getting off of Prozac was a bitch. Any help would be appreciated.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife has been suffering from daily anxiety for some time now. It may be related to her diagnoses of multiple sclerosis over a year ago; her menopausal phase; or her hypothyroidism. After taking hormone replacement therapy and synthroid for the thyroid problem, she still has daily anxiety. She has been treating it with Ativan but her doc recommend an anti-depressent. Here’s the problem: her GP recommends Celexa; her neurologist recommends Effexor; and her psychiatrist recommended Buspar (and maybe a second drug as well.) She tried Prozac years ago and it worked well except she lost all interest in sex or orgasm was near impossible. My question is…can anyone give some insight into possible side effects of the 3 ADs mentioned? What might she expect? What about withdrawl from them? Getting off of Prozac was a bitch. Any help would be appreciated.
Buspar in not like any other anxiety drug and not use for panick attack. It takes effect after a few weeks and does not interfere with the interest in sex. On the contrary, some say that at high dosage, it helps. The only sundesirable side effects i have experienced with Buspar is, sometimes, dizziness and tiredness. Il helps to take the medication with a very large glass of water. If you experience panick attack you could had attivan or something similar for a couple of days. ap
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anti-depressants without a problem, my psychiatrist felt that Effexor had less of an effect on the heart, and so switched me to Effexor. I have tried unsuccessfully to quit on many
occasions, even though I only take 37.5 mgs per day. The extreme lethargy I feel when I have tried to quit, the tingling in various parts of my body, the weird dreams and most
troublesome of all, the crackling, electric sounds in my head have caused me too much distress to ever be successful.
Hi, I think that you have to think about all these side effect problems. Maybe they are not side-effect, maybe they are only telling you that you are stressed, and you need to fix your problems, otherwise the side-problems will be forever with you B
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Effexor Withdrawal Causing Crackling Sounds in the Brain Antidepressants "Thank God for this website." I had a nervous breakdown six years ago and after being on other anti-depressants without a problem, my psychiatrist felt that Effexor had less of an effect on the heart, and so switched me to Effexor. I have tried unsuccessfully to quit on many occasions, even though I only take 37.5 mgs per day. The extreme lethargy I feel when I have tried to quit, the tingling in various parts of my body, the weird dreams and most troublesome of all, the crackling, electric sounds in my head have caused me too much distress to ever be successful. Hi, I think that you have to think about all these side effect problems. Maybe they are not side-effect, maybe they are only telling you that you are stressed, and you need to fix your problems, otherwise the side-problems will be forever with you B
I thought cross-posting to and from different kind of newsgroups was not the reason why they started alt.support.schizofrenia. Btw, is it not forbidden in the FAQ ? Berty
Tapering is good. I had a bad reaction to Zoloft, made me manic-like and/or obsessive. I thought I was in control, but was actually very far gone. Good luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For six days now, I’ve been feeling disconnected – basically "high." My therp believes its the Zoloft (50 mg per day), so I’m talking with the good doctor tomorrow about trying something else. Questions: * Will I have to taper off the Z, or can I just quit and start something else in a few days? * Anybody else have this problem with Zoloft? The summary of studies at the Pfizer website makes this type of reaction look infrequent if not rare. BGS * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
You’ll probably have to taper off – if they don’t you’ll feel like crud – they pulled me off Effexor XR when my manic episode was in swing – now I feel sick without the Effexor. However, you are on a very low dose and if you start another AD in a few days, you should be ok. Good luck.
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For six days now, I’ve been feeling disconnected – basically "high." My therp believes its the Zoloft (50 mg per day), so I’m talking with the good doctor tomorrow about trying something else. Questions: * Will I have to taper off the Z, or can I just quit and start something else in a few days?
How long have you been taking the Zoloft? 50 mg is a low dosage, so my guess is you can just switch, but your best bet is to consult your doctor. * Anybody else have this problem with Zoloft? The summary of studies at the Pfizer website makes this type of reaction look infrequent if not rare.
I’ve been taking Zoloft for over a year. I’m up to 100mg/day. I think I sort of feel like this when I’m on it, but it doesn’t bother me. Maybe I like being disconnected? Good luck! BGS * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s
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i have been taking it for 2 weeks now and that is exactly how i feel every day…. i hope it goes away – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For six days now, I’ve been feeling disconnected – basically "high." My therp believes its the Zoloft (50 mg per day), so I’m talking with the good doctor tomorrow about trying something else. Questions: * Will I have to taper off the Z, or can I just quit and start something else in a few days? * Anybody else have this problem with Zoloft? The summary of studies at the Pfizer website makes this type of reaction look infrequent if not rare. BGS * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
For six days now, I’ve been feeling disconnected – basically "high." My therp believes its the Zoloft (50 mg per day), so I’m talking with the good doctor tomorrow about trying something else. Questions: * Will I have to taper off the Z, or can I just quit and start something else in a few days? * Anybody else have this problem with Zoloft? The summary of studies at the Pfizer website makes this type of reaction look infrequent if not rare. BGS * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Hi I just started Zoloft too and I am glad to "meet" someone else who is too please keep me posted and I’ll keep you abreast of what happens to me — Demise
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Saw the doctor this afternoon, and he is switching me to Celexa, 20 mg/day. No tapering down on the Z needed, he said. Just fill my new prescrip and start tomorrow on the Celexa. He said that he’s seen Celexa work better for patients that had that unwanted "high" or sedated feeling from Zoloft.
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Saw the doctor this afternoon, and he is switching me to Celexa, 20 mg/day. No tapering down on the Z needed, he said. Just fill my new prescrip and start tomorrow on the Celexa. He said that he’s seen Celexa work better for patients that had that unwanted "high" or sedated feeling from Zoloft.
That’s good news! Good luck with your new prescription. Take care. Athena * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Saw the doctor this afternoon, and he is switching me to Celexa, 20 mg/day. No tapering down on the Z needed, he said. Just fill my new prescrip and start tomorrow on the Celexa. He said that he’s seen Celexa work better for patients that had that unwanted "high" or sedated feeling from Zoloft. BGS * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
I’ve been on the Z for only 4 weeks. Haven’t really felt any mood effect, and the daze I’m in hasn’t helped much at all.
Well, that’s definitely long enough for the drug to take effect if it’s going to. The daze doesn’t sound like a good side effect. I guess I don’t have that side effect because I can still function — sort of! I see the doctor tomorrow about switching to something else. I couldn’t function in college when I was high, and I’m no better at it 10 years later. Makes it awfully hard to function at work, especially for paying attention in meetings.
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How long have you been taking the Zoloft? 50 mg is a low dosage, so my guess is you can just switch, but your best bet is to consult your doctor.
I’ve been on the Z for only 4 weeks. Haven’t really felt any mood effect, and the daze I’m in hasn’t helped much at all. I see the doctor tomorrow about switching to something else. I’ve been taking Zoloft for over a year. I’m up to 100mg/day. I think I sort of feel like this when I’m on it, but it doesn’t bother me. Maybe I like being disconnected?
I couldn’t function in college when I was high, and I’m no better at it 10 years later. Makes it awfully hard to function at work, especially for paying attention in meetings. BGS (in NY State) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
I have a ‘depersonalization’ disorder, which may stem from stress , no panic attacks, moderate anxiety. I’m 40 years old and I have never taken any medications for my psyche. I will be taking Prozac soon in a depersonalization study. On this newsgroup however, Paxil seems to be all the rage. Has it supplanted Prozac? What are the pros and cons of each? Is one better then the other?
I have a ‘depersonalization’ disorder, which may stem from stress , no panic attacks, moderate anxiety. I’m 40 years old and I have never taken any medications for my psyche. I will be taking Prozac soon in a depersonalization study. On this newsgroup however, Paxil seems to be all the rage. Has it supplanted Prozac? What are the pros and cons of each? Is one better then the other?
Like all medications, Paxil and Prozac work differently for different people. Probably why Paxil features more here than Prozac or Zoloft is that its manufacturers have had it tested and approved for use in anxiety cases – thus doctors tend to reach for it first. However, that *doesn’t* mean it is more effective, simply that SmithKline Beecham decided to put it through the approval process so they could sell it for that use. Your doctor will have prescribed you Prozac because s/he thinks it’s worth trying. But there’s no way anyone can be sure and if you’d started with Paxil you might well have ended-up on Prozac anyway. It’s suck it and see, I’m afraid – literally! — Gary Cooper
I don’t know what the SSRIs are doing in "the real world", but in 1993 when my psychiatrist put me on Zoloft, he said of the three SSRIs then available, Paxil was the most sedating, Prozac the most stimulating, and Zoloft was somewhere between those two. Therefore he suggested Zoloft. Naturally I followed his advice and glad I did. The Zoloft has never caused sedation or stimulation in me. Even though psych meds are YMMV, etc, etc, there are valid generalizations that can be made IMHO. Chip
Chip Thanks for your information. What do you mean by stimulating. When you started Zoloft did you have anxiety ? My problem is anxiety and OCB. I tried paxil and gained tons of weight but felt great. I was sleeping well (something I never did). I was very very lazy. I went off paxil because of the weight gain, but I feel I need to get back on the SSRIs again. I’m thinking Prozac or Zoloft. I’v heard of some strange side effects with Zoloft though, like eye twitching, having trouble peeing and so on. Did you exeperience any side effects that you couldn’t cope with? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (PST+9) I don’t think that, in the real world, Prozac has a very good track record when used for anxiety. It is generally much more anxiety-provoking than Paxil, and chances are that you will experience the same adverse effects anyway, especially with respect to sexual problems. Of course, you will never know for sure unless you try it. Pierre In the real world Prozac has about the same track record for PAD as the other SSRI’s. I would definitely not say that it’s more anxiety-provoking than Paxil. It’s very much an YMMV thing. I myself had good results with Prozac but had to stop it after a year or so because of a rare side effect. Of the SSRI’s Luvox seems to give somewhat lesser problems with sexual dysfunction but low dose Prozac (10 mg) chances are that one may not experience it either. Because all AD’s tend to cause heigthened anxiety and some other weird side effect in the beginning it is advisable to *start low and go slow*: as Prozac is available in lquid form it’s possible to start it at 2,5 mgs and then up it with 2,5 mg every week. Otherwise (tabs) 5 mg is rather safe too. Philip I was on Paxil for 9 months (for anxiety) and loved it – except for the weight gain and sexual disfunction. I want to try Prozac. Has anyone had any good results from using it for anxiety? What are the side effects that you experieced? Please help! I am dying to get back on an SSRI but I want to take the right one. Thanks for any help. ..Tania Before you buy.
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If you have OCD, any of the SSRIs or Anafranil (more side effects, but possibly more effective), are supposed to be drugs of choice. Often they have to be augmented with BuSpar or Klonopin or an "antipsychotic". OCD is hard to treat, but any improvement is appreciated by most patients. Chip
Hi Chip, My OCD was not "hard to treat". The Paxil knocked it right out and even switching to Zoloft it did not return. Also, I am wondering what "antipsychotic" you are referring to as a cure for OCD?? Maybe mine’s (OCD) just not that big of a deal. You might want to throw in a YMMV on these two. I know mine did if what you say is true. Can someone enlighten me? P.S. Also I hear more about xanax or klon. being used as an augment med with SSRIs…….is Buspar used as well? I had zero luck with Buspar too. YMMV. Regards, Miriam
Hi Miriam, I’m glad you responded to both meds you mentioned for OCD. Often OCD is difficult to treat (i.e. get a good response from meds), and larger doses of the SSRIs may have to be used (for example, up to 80 mg/day of Prozac). I have also read that SSRIs may have to be augmented with other med(s) to get a good response in OCD, such as BuSpar, up to 60 mg/day. Many meds have been used attempting to augment SSRIs for OCD, including Klonopin, and an antipsychotic (pimozide has been used). None of these meds "cure" OCD, but they can reduce symptoms. I’m on Zoloft and Klonopin for PD with good response for the PD, but still have mild OC symptoms such as checking and doubt. Chip
If you have OCD, any of the SSRIs or Anafranil (more side effects, but possibly more effective), are supposed to be drugs of choice. Often they have to be augmented with BuSpar or Klonopin or an "antipsychotic". OCD is hard to treat, but any improvement is appreciated by most patients. Chip Hi Chip,
Without blinking an eye, he wrote a script for testosterone cream. I’d actually heard about it on the Leeza show and on Oprah, but figured my HMO would never provide such a thing–it has to be compounded. I have been on the testosterone cream for about 3 months–and my desire is SOOOO much better–not like when I was 20, but at least sex is now a regular activity for us.
You’ve got a very cool doctor. I never thought of that. Thanks for mentioning it.
Without blinking an eye, he wrote a script for testosterone cream. I’d actually heard about it on the Leeza show and on Oprah, but figured my HMO would never provide such a thing–it has to be compounded. I have been on the testosterone cream for about 3 months–and my desire is SOOOO much better–not like when I was 20, but at least sex is now a regular activity for us. You’ve got a very cool doctor. I never thought of that. Thanks for mentioning it.
I saw him on a fluke. I now have a NEW ob/gyn. I was so afraid he would not speak english due to his name–I made hubby go with me. you see, I found a growth–or so I thought and I was really scared. Turns out to be just an extra flap of tissue and nothing to worry about. Also, the testosterone cream has totally alleviated my vulvodena–a pain in the you know where! LOL Nancy To respond via email, delete "nospam" from my address. Please visit the new moderated recovery group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery.info Also, check out the guafenisin group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.guaifenesin Please visit the new group, alt.talk.grandparents.
I have been on trazadone for almost 20 years. Last summer, I lost all sexual desire–I don tthink it was the traz or other meds–maybe just stress of my situation. First I tried OTC synthetic progesterone and wild yam cream–that helped quite a bit. Then I had a urgent appointment with a new ob/gyn (I am female) on another issue.and told him about my desire issue. Without blinking an eye, he wrote a script for testosterone cream. I’d actually heard about it on the Leeza show and on Oprah, but figured my HMO would never provide such a thing–it has to be compounded. I have been on the testosterone cream for about 3 months–and my desire is SOOOO much better–not like when I was 20, but at least sex is now a regular activity for us. HTH someone, Nancy To respond via email, delete "nospam" from my address. Please visit the new moderated recovery group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.recovery.info Also, check out the guafenisin group at alt.med.fibromyalgia.guaifenesin Please visit the new group, alt.talk.grandparents.
I found this message board with posts from pdocs and others talking about how to revive sex drives in depressed patients who lose it through taking anti depressants. I thought it might be of interest. Dr. Bob’s Psychopharmacology Tips SSRI sexual dysfunction —— I have had good experience withe use of buspirone to reverse SSRI effects on libido and orgasm and find this method to be more useful than other approaches touted in the literature. —— I haven’t had much luck with buspirone reversing sexual dysfunction (I am having better luck with bupropion). —— He responded very well to Prozac. Unfortunately he developed intolerable retarded ejaculation. Bupropion would be a good choice as it seldom causes sexual dysfunction. Trazodone can seldom be given in doses high enough to be effective without being too sedating. If the bupropion does not help, you might consider restarting the Prozac and co-administering buspirone 10-20 mg tid. Buspirone has been reported to protect some men from the sexual side effects of the SSRIs. If the buspirone fails, some other medications that may help sexual function are amantadine and cyproheptadine. —— I have found a number of strategies useful with this type of problem but no one panacea. Sometimes, adding 75 mg of bupropion can make a difference. There has been some success for some of my patients with cyproheptadine 2-4 mg about an hour before sex although most of my colleagues have not been impressed. There is the danger of the anti-serotonin effect with this drug but I have never encountered it. The sedation might also be a problem (since about half the people using antihistamines become sedated). Of course, sedation would be a big problem with trazodone, especially for those of us who favor morning sex. —— Although I haven’t had a report from any patients yet, I’ve heard that nefazodone (Serzone) is similar to bupropion in absence of sexual side effects. —— Either treat the sexual dysfunction secondary to SSRIs with one of the anecdotal treatments, e.g. buspirone 10-20 mg po tid, amantidine, or cyproheptidine, or switch to venlafaxine (in my experience less sexual dysfunction) or bupropion. —— Dr. John Feighner (creater of the Feighner criteria, which led to the RDC and then to DSM-III and IV) states that he has successfully treated SSRI-associated sexual dysfunction in 3 individuals with methylphenidate (Ritalin), 10-30 mg/day. This fits conceptually with reports of the efficacy of amantadine, another dopamine agonist, and with the idea that SSRI-associated apathy (including lowered libido) may be related to dopamine down-regulation. —— I’ve had fairly good (75%, small n) luck with cyproheptadine, 2-4 mg several hours before sex or 2-4 mg TID regularly, for sexual dysfunction/loss of interest with SSRIs. One also can try adding small doses of bupropion to the SSRI for both depression and loss of sexual interest. —— Some of us have had success with telling patients to skip the dose the day of expected sexual acitivity, and that works pretty well with venlafaxine (Effexor) (not a true SSRI, but…) in my experience. I have also noticed that just switching SSRIs can often alleviate the problem. I seem to be seeing that on the Prozac-Zoloft-Paxil axis I can just move a patient from one to another and often clear things up. I’ll bet that is a buggy solution and that my "n" is not large enough to justify any conclusions, but as long as it works I guess I’ll keep going with it. I have also been disappointed that trying to switch my patients to Wellbutrin, now touted for its lack of sexual side effects, doesn’t seem to help many of them. In the really problematic cases, I urge them to give a TCA a trial, because despite some of the other side effects those are still very reliable medications. I just don’t like having that lethal overdose potential and I prefer the rapid onset of action the SSRIs seem to demonstrate. —— My 2 cents’ worth: Lower SSRI dose. Try SSRI vacation on weekends. Add cyproheptadine 4-28 mg 30-60 min prior to sex (if they can stay awake). Add trazodone if problem seems to be erectile failure. Add bupropion 75-100 mg in AM (adrenergic effect seems to help). Switch out of class to therapeutic dose of bupropion, nefazodone, etc. My experience is that switching within class rarely works but is worth try in some cases. Re-think if this is medication side effect, consider work with couple. —— There are a few more psychopharmacologic interventions that are often useful: amantadine 100 mg bid or tid buspirone 5-10 mg tid or qid (may increase desire too) dextroamphetamine 5 mg tid or qid methylphenidate 10 mg tid or qid. —— I’ve also had good luck adding yohimbine, 5.4 mg bid to tid. —— Yohimbine is often effective but may precipitate manic episodes in pholks with bipolar disorder. —— Try adding buspirone (Buspar). Michael Norden recently reported benefits. I have been doing the same for about a year with substantial benefits about 1/2 the time. I use 5 mg bid upped qweek by 5 bid to 20-30 bid total. Usually it takes a couple of weeks to get effects. If the patient is on high dose SSRIs, be careful. One of my patients had a mild serotonin syndrome-like event on Buspar 60/d and Paxil 60/day. It is also helpful to be more specific about the sexual side effects. Decreased libido and ejaculatory latency are different phenomena and the latter may respond better to Buspar addition. In addition, many (maybe most) men on SSRIs report decreased masturbation frequency. But this does not necessarily indicate sexual dysfunction — since on closer questioning, many of these same men report intact erotic responsiveness to external sexual stimuli. —— One thing to consider is whether you can lower the dose of the SSRI. That was helpful for three of my female patients. Another female patient did well with cyproheptadine (Periactin) though it cut down on spontaneity. —— My experience with SSRIs is that they [can] cause decreased libido as well as anorgasmia. Personally, I believe that the problems are rather difficult to treat. I have had little success with adding Periactin, Buspar or Wellbutrin. I have found that more often than not I am forced to lower the SSRI or stop it completely when the patient complains about these side effects. —— I have found that loss of sex drive in depressed patients often occurs separately from the symptom of diminished libido that is part of depression. The … read more »
Hello all, I started getting panic attacks about 6 weeks ago. I was diagnosed and given medication (Xanax and Zoloft). The intense attacks have disappeared, but I would say that I am dizzy nearly all of my waking hours and I can often go into some sort of trance and convince myself that everything is unreal. Does anyone have advise/experience with dizzyness? I can understand it coming during an attack, but I am literally dizzy all day long! Help! Thanks, Greg
Greg, Sounds like you may have vertigo, in which case you should probably see a neurologist for testing. Vertigo is an imbalance in your inner ear which causes you to feel off balance. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, I started getting panic attacks about 6 weeks ago. I was diagnosed and given medication (Xanax and Zoloft). The intense attacks have disappeared, but I would say that I am dizzy nearly all of my waking hours and I can often go into some sort of trance and convince myself that everything is unreal. Does anyone have advise/experience with dizzyness? I can understand it coming during an attack, but I am literally dizzy all day long! Help! Thanks, Greg
It could also be a result of High Blood pressure. That is usually the case with me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello all, I started getting panic attacks about 6 weeks ago. I was diagnosed and given medication (Xanax and Zoloft). The intense attacks have disappeared, but I would say that I am dizzy nearly all of my waking hours and I can often go into some sort of trance and convince myself that everything is unreal. Does anyone have advise/experience with dizzyness? I can understand it coming during an attack, but I am literally dizzy all day long! Help! Thanks, Greg
I, too, have been having problems with dizziness. One resource that helped me a great deal was the Vestibular Disorders Association (VEDA). I’ve forgotten what the internet address is, but it should be easy to find if you do a Net search.
Re: Re: Dizzyness anyone? Greg, Sounds like you may have vertigo, in which case you should probably see a neurologist for testing. Vertigo is an imbalance in your inner ear which causes you to feel off balance.
I wouldn’t go straight for the neurologist at this time, I would find a good ENT (ear nose and throat dr) The neuro. should be reserved for last, Since any good ENT can probally diagnose the problem. Mzpepper Posted at: Thorny’s BBS, Lawrence, Kansas USA telnet://thorny.ml.org — Thanks to Freddie, I’m a Sexual Spastic. –Zappa.
Hello all, I started getting panic attacks about 6 weeks ago. I was diagnosed and given medication (Xanax and Zoloft). The intense attacks have disappeared, but I would say that I am dizzy nearly all of my waking hours and I can often go into some sort of trance and convince myself that everything is unreal. Does anyone have advise/experience with dizzyness? I can understand it coming during an attack, but I am literally dizzy all day long! Help! Thanks, Greg
Greg, It may well be the Zoloft, which can cause dizziness (SSRIs can cause just about anything). You may want to talk to your doc about trying a different SSRI, Prozac would probably be the best choice, IMO. There’s lots of complaints (more than with other SSRIs) about Paxil’s side effects (though some do very well on it), and Luvox is less effective than the other SSRIs for panic for quite a few (though, again, many do well on it). Best of luck to you! Matt (IMO, etc.)
Gee, maybe a good slice of Ray Bari’s pizza with extra garlic before sex is all we need!
Wasn’t that a Barry Manilow song? Thanks for publishing the dirt on nonoxynol-9. Sounds like its worse than even I thought. And now the gay organizations are giving out condoms lubricated with "extra strength" nonoxynol 9. Ed
I knew you would get a kick out of that. Yes, I will grudgingly verify that you were the first person that I ever heard speak out against N9. Hey, even a stopped clock can be right twice a day. James M. Scutero, original proponent of misc.health.aids misc.health.aids homepage: http://www.panix.com/~jscutero MISC.HEALTH.AIDS * HIV/AIDS TALK ONLY * NO COMMERCIALS * NO MODERATORS
Whey has a very high lysine to arginine ratio (2.75). I wonder if that is the reason why it works as an antiviral. Lysine has been shown to inhibit herpes viruses and may work against HIV. NEW YORK DAILY NEWS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 31, 1996 PAGE 8 FINDING A WHEY Could limit HIV spread by Joe Nicholson Daily News Staff Writer Researchers yesterday said a substance made from whey, the liquid taken out of milk in making cheese, may have the power to stop the spread of the AIDS virus during intercourse. Robert Neurath, a virologist at the New York Blood Center, held out the hope that the substance, dubbed B69, could be used as a foam or cream, like spermicides. Neurath said he hit upon B69 after testing 68 other compounds with disappointing results: "It was a combination of persistence and luck, as is usual in life." Neurath’s experiments, reported in February’s Nature Medicine journal, showed that B69 blocks HIV from entering CD4 cells, the immune cells the virus destroys. Researchers cautioned, however, that B69 applications may not be a 100% preventive because it is uncertain whether B69 also would block other cell-entry sites. "The compound could serve as the basis for preventive measures against HIV transmission…to supplement other barrier methods, like condoms," said the researchers. Neurath said another big advantage of B69 was that a dose likely would cost only a few cents. Neurath, whose laboratory work was funded with a $200,000 federal grant, said he was trying to raise at least $50,000 for animal testing. Dr. John Adamson, president of the New York Blood Center, said B69 has the potential to save tens of thousands of lives. The treatment must first be tried on animals, and then, possibly a year from now, on humans. The last big hope for stopping sexual spread of AIDS, Nonoxynol-9, was a disastrous failure, said Dr. Jeffrey Laurence of the American Foundation for AIDS Research. Laurence, an AIDS researcher at Cornell Medical School as well as the foundation’s senior scientist for programs, said Nonoxynol-9 was tested in Africa several years ago. "There were actually more infections in people who got the product," said Laurence. "It seemed to cause irritation in the vagina, and the hypothesis was that it eased the way for the AIDS virus." Neurath said that unlike, Nonoxynol-9, B69 isn’t toxic to cells, so researchers "don’t expect…similar problems with this compound." Neurath displayed a test tube of B69 liquid and said he was optimistic it would not cause negative reactions because it is a natural substance. James M. Scutero, original proponent of misc.health.aids misc.health.aids homepage: http://www.panix.com/~jscutero MISC.HEALTH.AIDS * HIV/AIDS TALK ONLY * NO COMMERCIALS * NO MODERATORS
Gee, maybe a good slice of Ray Bari’s pizza with extra garlic before sex is all we need! Thanks for publishing the dirt on nonoxynol-9. Sounds like its worse than even I thought. And now the gay organizations are giving out condoms lubricated with "extra strength" nonoxynol 9. Ed
: Whey has a very high lysine to arginine ratio (2.75). I wonder if that is : the reason why it works as an antiviral. Lysine has been shown to inhibit : herpes viruses and may work against HIV. : NEW YORK DAILY NEWS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 31, 1996 PAGE 8 : FINDING A WHEY : Could limit HIV spread : by Joe Nicholson : Daily News Staff Writer : Researchers yesterday said a substance made from whey, the liquid : taken out of milk in making cheese, may have the power to stop the spread : of the AIDS virus during intercourse. : Robert Neurath, a virologist at the New York Blood Center, held : out the hope that the substance, dubbed B69, could be used as a foam or : cream, like spermicides. : Neurath said he hit upon B69 after testing 68 other compounds : with disappointing results: "It was a combination of persistence and : luck, as is usual in life." : Neurath’s experiments, reported in February’s Nature Medicine : journal, showed that B69 blocks HIV from entering CD4 cells, the immune : cells the virus destroys. : Researchers cautioned, however, that B69 applications may not be : a 100% preventive because it is uncertain whether B69 also would block : other cell-entry sites. : "The compound could serve as the basis for preventive measures : against HIV transmission…to supplement other barrier methods, like : condoms," said the researchers. : Neurath said another big advantage of B69 was that a dose likely : would cost only a few cents. : Neurath, whose laboratory work was funded with a $200,000 federal : grant, said he was trying to raise at least $50,000 for animal testing. : Dr. John Adamson, president of the New York Blood Center, said : B69 has the potential to save tens of thousands of lives. The treatment : must first be tried on animals, and then, possibly a year from now, on : humans. : The last big hope for stopping sexual spread of AIDS, : Nonoxynol-9, was a disastrous failure, said Dr. Jeffrey Laurence of the : American Foundation for AIDS Research. : Laurence, an AIDS researcher at Cornell Medical School as well as : the foundation’s senior scientist for programs, said Nonoxynol-9 was : tested in Africa several years ago. : "There were actually more infections in people who got the : product," said Laurence. "It seemed to cause irritation in the vagina, : and the hypothesis was that it eased the way for the AIDS virus." : Neurath said that unlike, Nonoxynol-9, B69 isn’t toxic to cells, : so researchers "don’t expect…similar problems with this compound." : Neurath displayed a test tube of B69 liquid and said he was : optimistic it would not cause negative reactions because it is a natural : substance. : James M. Scutero, original proponent of misc.health.aids : misc.health.aids homepage: http://www.panix.com/~jscutero : MISC.HEALTH.AIDS * HIV/AIDS TALK ONLY * NO COMMERCIALS * NO MODERATORS