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This ties in very nicely with Buteyko’s chronic hyperventilation theory on asthma.   It follows quite logically from the initial premise that asthmatics just breathe too much,  that all the body’s biochemical processes, including the production of Cortisol, are impaired by the low levels of Carbon Dioxide resulting from chronic over-breathing.

Which makes no damned sense since it has been shown that asthmatics actually have *high* levels of Carbon Dioxide during an attack.   Loki

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Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent.   Thanks, Loki

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Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent. Thanks, Loki

Adrenal suppression is most likely from long term usage of oral steroids. Could also start to have an effect at very high doses of inhaled steroids, like Flovent, more likely with Flovent 220 than the lower strength versions. The body needs the equivalent of about 5 mg of prednisone/day; if it can’t produce it, it needs to be supplied orally. The typical inhaled steroid dose is 30 times lower than typical oral steroids, which is why inhaled steroids are the treatment of choice. (Inhaled steroids go directly to lungs, thus don’t affect the whole body). After a burst dose of prednisone of a few days, it takes a while for the body to get back to normal. Somtimes special techniques are used to wean off the oral steroids, such as tapering the dose and alternate day dosing. Ellis

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It’s just interesting to note that my doctor told me that the Flovent puffs 2x a day is =to 5 mg f prednisone Smile…and have a nice day!!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent. Thanks, Loki Adrenal suppression is most likely from long term usage of oral steroids. Could also start to have an effect at very high doses of inhaled steroids, like Flovent, more likely with Flovent 220 than the lower strength versions. The body needs the equivalent of about 5 mg of prednisone/day; if it can’t produce it, it needs to be supplied orally. The typical inhaled steroid dose is 30 times lower than typical oral steroids, which is why inhaled steroids are the treatment of choice. (Inhaled steroids go directly to lungs, thus don’t affect the whole body).

True to a point. But even when properly used, there is some aspiration of inhaled seroids. Thus there is sytemic delivery and suppression of adrenal steroids. Moreover,there can be absorption through the airway into the bloodstream.  So while inhaled steroids are safer than pills, they are not free of adverse effects. After a burst dose of prednisone of a few days, it takes a while for the body to get back to normal. Somtimes special techniques are used to wean off the oral steroids, such as tapering the dose and alternate day dosing.

A while can be a LONG while – months to the better part of a year.

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Loki, how are you doing? Has the disorientation passed? If not, I have info that may help you — contact me. Just wanted to add the comment here that my endocrinologist thinks that ALL people with allergies have weak adrenal function. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent.   Thanks, Loki

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Please allow me to add my 2 cents here and say that, IMHO, the notion that topical steroids "do not affect the whole body" is the biggest con job ever pulled over on patients. Ask anyone who has suffered systemic side effects from these "minute" dosages! On the plus side, since I have started Vancenase, my skin has never been so soft. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent. Thanks, Loki Adrenal suppression is most likely from long term usage of oral steroids. Could also start to have an effect at very high doses of inhaled steroids, like Flovent, more likely with Flovent 220 than the lower strength versions. The body needs the equivalent of about 5 mg of prednisone/day; if it can’t produce it, it needs to be supplied orally. The typical inhaled steroid dose is 30 times lower than typical oral steroids, which is why inhaled steroids are the treatment of choice. (Inhaled steroids go directly to lungs, thus don’t affect the whole body). After a burst dose of prednisone of a few days, it takes a while for the body to get back to normal. Somtimes special techniques are used to wean off the oral steroids, such as tapering the dose and alternate day dosing. Ellis

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Just wanted to add the comment here that my endocrinologist thinks that ALL people with allergies have weak adrenal function.

That is also my understanding. Maybe your doctor knows the work of John Tintera. I have been told  that most endocrinologists today don’t  have the knowledge of this that they once had.

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Does anyone have any information on Flovent and adrenal suppression? I’m hoping that’s not it, but it’s possible my adrenals are a bit suppressed.  It’s more likely the prednisone I was on but I’m just curious about Flovent.  

It’s also possible it’s an "interaction" between the two…the Flovent making preg. side effects worse and vice-versa.  Getting tested might be a good idea, esp. if you can get insurance to pay for it. Scott T.

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Just wanted to add the comment here that my endocrinologist thinks that ALL people with allergies have weak adrenal function. That is also my understanding. Maybe your doctor knows the work of John Tintera. I have been told  that most endocrinologists today don’t  have the knowledge of this that they once had.

This ties in very nicely with Buteyko’s chronic hyperventilation theory on asthma.   It follows quite logically from the initial premise that asthmatics just breathe too much,  that all the body’s biochemical processes, including the production of Cortisol, are impaired by the low levels of Carbon Dioxide resulting from chronic over-breathing. For details see Kazarinov’s paper:        http://www.wt.com.au/~pkolb/biochem.htm Peter  Kolb FREE INFORMATION ON BUTEYKO’S CURE FOR ASTHMA PROVIDED BY GRATEFUL EX-ASTHMATICS:   http://www.wt.com.au/~pkolb/buteyko.htm

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you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

You might discuss taking a prednisone burst.  It is not a fun medication to take (I refer to it as "The side effect of the week medication.") but it should help you get through the cold. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein

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Hi.   You shoudl be on more flovent. I was put on flovent 220 four puffs a day (the higher dose) when I was still having problems. your dose should definitely be increased!!! Ask for some flonase for your nose (isn’t habit forming, it is just like the steroid inhaler for your lungs). I have some similar problems to you, and using the albuterol too much, and using slo-bid (theophylline) were the WORST things I could do for any sort of anxiety attacks. Decongestant is FINE unless the doctor told you not to take it due to your other medications. Summary: get some extra meds to get you through your cold, and get the health people to give you the flovent 220! In the meantime, a pred. burst may be necessary. -jenny ideas as to what might help, that would NOT tend to make one nervous, i could really use them…the pseudoephedrine HELPS, but I still as I said had to use my inhaler in class a few hours after taking it this morning, and waking up in the morning or middle of the night gasping is not fun (as I’m sure many of you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

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Talk to your doctor about all this.  Your doctor and you must decide how bad your anxiety disorder is and the risks of adding drugs that exasperate this condition.  However, it is common to do a short dose of oral prednisone when asthmatics get ill.  Talk to your doctor about this possibility to get you through until your cold gets better.  Upping your Flovent may help some but I’d probably go for the prednisone in this instance.  Again, talk to your doctor and see what he/she suggests to get you through it.  Pseudoephedrine (I’m guessing OTC) is a broad spectrum agonist against your adrenergic receptors so this is probably why you’re feeling more anxious while taking it.  Albuterol is specific for the beta-2 receptor so it mainly acts on the smooth muscles in your lung dilating them, although some gets in your system and can certainly make you more anxious also.  If it was me, I’d go for a short prednisone burst, but talk to your doc and see what they think.

Nah, I was told pred is for RED zone….I’m only in the upper end of yellow. And form what people here have been saying, that stuff gets people’s emotions terribly messed up all by itself. sounds like the last thing I want to be taking —

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It sounds like a lot of your symptoms are related to post nasal drip. The nasal steroids are one good solution, but they will take a few days to do have an effect. The sedating antihistamines like Benedryl can dry the nose though their side effects, not necessarily from the histamine action. Avoid this if you are having a lot of chest congestion. Using saline nasal sprays every hour or two can help, as well as drinking hot liquids. If the Sudafed is helping your nose and not giving you anxiety problems then go with it. You will know if it gets you too hyped up. You and your doctor may just have to agree on a plan that includes stimulants when your asthma warrants and combat the effects with other sedatives. — Good Luck, CBI, M.D. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey…got a little problem here. I have a cold which is exacerbating my asthma badly. I’ve had to use albuterol for it several times (including this morning in class. Trying to take notes on complex math with your hands shaking is bad) in the last week. Now, I’m using that when I feel I need to, and I talked to my doctor once already (first time I was in yellow zone since having the chart set up) and am on Flovent 44 3×3 instead of my normal 2×2. I WAS taking a nasal spray decongestant, which worked pretty well except for wearing off before 12 hours was up, BUT you can only use that for 4 days and my 4 days are up. I AM taking pseudoephedrine now, but I’m really not supposed to; I have some sort of anxiety disorder (that I’ve very recently been put on meds for) and so I’m not supposed to take things that could make it worse. Now, admittedly my instincts say that the psuedoephedrine makes me less nervous than constantly using albuterol….but if anyone has any other ideas as to what might help, that would NOT tend to make one nervous, i could really use them…the pseudoephedrine HELPS, but I still as I said had to use my inhaler in class a few hours after taking it this morning, and waking up in the morning or middle of the night gasping is not fun (as I’m sure many of you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

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Talk to your doctor about all this.  Your doctor and you must decide how bad your anxiety disorder is and the risks of adding drugs that exasperate this condition.  However, it is common to do a short dose of oral prednisone when asthmatics get ill.  Talk to your doctor about this possibility to get you through until your cold gets better.  Upping your Flovent may help some but I’d probably go for the prednisone in this instance.  Again, talk to your doctor and see what he/she suggests to get you through it.  Pseudoephedrine (I’m guessing OTC) is a broad spectrum agonist against your adrenergic receptors so this is probably why you’re feeling more anxious while taking it.  Albuterol is specific for the beta-2 receptor so it mainly acts on the smooth muscles in your lung dilating them, although some gets in your system and can certainly make you more anxious also.  If it was me, I’d go for a short prednisone burst, but talk to your doc and see what they think. — James P Picotte Michigan State University College of Human Medicine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hey…got a little problem here. I have a cold which is exacerbating my asthma badly. I’ve had to use albuterol for it several times (including this morning in class. Trying to take notes on complex math with your hands shaking is bad) in the last week. Now, I’m using that when I feel I need to, and I talked to my doctor once already (first time I was in yellow zone since having the chart set up) and am on Flovent 44 3×3 instead of my normal 2×2. I WAS taking a nasal spray decongestant, which worked pretty well except for wearing off before 12 hours was up, BUT you can only use that for 4 days and my 4 days are up. I AM taking pseudoephedrine now, but I’m really not supposed to; I have some sort of anxiety disorder (that I’ve very recently been put on meds for) and so I’m not supposed to take things that could make it worse. Now, admittedly my instincts say that the psuedoephedrine makes me less nervous than constantly using albuterol….but if anyone has any other ideas as to what might help, that would NOT tend to make one nervous, i could really use them…the pseudoephedrine HELPS, but I still as I said had to use my inhaler in class a few hours after taking it this morning, and waking up in the morning or middle of the night gasping is not fun (as I’m sure many of you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

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Hey…got a little problem here. I have a cold which is exacerbating my asthma badly. I’ve had to use albuterol for it several times (including this morning in class. Trying to take notes on complex math with your hands shaking is bad) in the last week. Now, I’m using that when I feel I need to, and I talked to my doctor once already (first time I was in yellow zone since having the chart set up) and am on Flovent 44 3×3 instead of my normal 2×2. I WAS taking a nasal spray decongestant, which worked pretty well except for wearing off before 12 hours was up, BUT you can only use that for 4 days and my 4 days are up. I AM taking pseudoephedrine now, but I’m really not supposed to; I have some sort of anxiety disorder (that I’ve very recently been put on meds for) and so I’m not supposed to take things that could make it worse. Now, admittedly my instincts say that the psuedoephedrine makes me less nervous than constantly using albuterol….but if anyone has any other ideas as to what might help, that would NOT tend to make one nervous, i could really use them…the pseudoephedrine HELPS, but I still as I said had to use my inhaler in class a few hours after taking it this morning, and waking up in the morning or middle of the night gasping is not fun (as I’m sure many of you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey…got a little problem here. I have a cold which is exacerbating my asthma badly. I’ve had to use albuterol for it several times (including this morning in class. Trying to take notes on complex math with your hands shaking is bad) in the last week. Now, I’m using that when I feel I need to, and I talked to my doctor once already (first time I was in yellow zone since having the chart set up) and am on Flovent 44 3×3 instead of my normal 2×2. I WAS taking a nasal spray decongestant, which worked pretty well except for wearing off before 12 hours was up, BUT you can only use that for 4 days and my 4 days are up. I AM taking pseudoephedrine now, but I’m really not supposed to; I have some sort of anxiety disorder (that I’ve very recently been put on meds for) and so I’m not supposed to take things that could make it worse. Now, admittedly my instincts say that the psuedoephedrine makes me less nervous than constantly using albuterol….but if anyone has any other ideas as to what might help, that would NOT tend to make one nervous, i could really use them…the pseudoephedrine HELPS, but I still as I said had to use my inhaler in class a few hours after taking it this morning, and waking up in the morning or middle of the night gasping is not fun (as I’m sure many of you know) particularly with sinus pressure. I AM going to talk to Health Services here and if they don’t have any bright ideas call my doctor at home again. Anyone know of anything I might try? — Emily

Regarding nasal sprays, the steroid ones are very effective and can be used long term; Flonase, Rhinocort, Vancenase A nonsteroidal OTC one that can be tried is Nasalcrom (cromolyn) It’s moderately effective and can be used long term; needs to be used 3-4x/day for a couple of weeks to become effective. Regarding Flovent 44, this is the weakest of the formulations. In your case may be more practical to go to the middle formulation, Flovent 110. A twice a day regimen should be sufficient. One or two puffs. The higher steroid dose should control the asthma better. You really should stay away from decongestants if taking antianxiety drugs. Also minimize albuterol useage, no more than once/day. Ellis

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This is great.  Would you please add Singulair 10 mg and Flovent 220 or 110? Thanks so much.

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Greetings again For some time now, I have spent various amounts of my online time searching the web for legitimate, reputable, online pharmacies, and checking their prices for various meds that I am on [almost all of which are asthma/allergy meds]. The differences in prices has been… fascinating…  Especially when comparing what I pay at retail stores and what the prices are online… Knowing that this information is useful for me, I am assuming that it would be useful for others  And, even if you do have insurance, you may want to take a look at what the prices are like [if nothing else, it will make you appreciate the value and cost of your insurance *When doing well* I spend $450 a month on meds, with no insurance, and I would gladly pay a few hundred a month to HAVE insurance...]. So… Within the next couple of days I will be posting a webpage of comparative drug prices. As of right now, I have prices on: Ventolin nebulizer solution Intal MDI Intal nebulizer solution Pulmicort turbuhaler Zyrtec [10 mg tablets] Serevent MDI Serevent Diskus And have used the following online pharmacies: PlanetRx DrugEmporium Drugstore.com <which is a Rite-Aid pharmacy] Eckerd.com If you have meds you would like included in the list, or online pharmacies to recommend…  Please let me know [preferrably by email so that I don't miss it, but posting to the newsgroup is fine too; or do both ].  I will try to include as many as I can, though I do reserve the right to pick and choose which ones will be included. For now, I am limiting the page to asthma and allergy meds [which therefore does include antihistamines], and will also for now limit it to those meds that require an Rx in the USA… I may add other comparative info… and maybe a guestbook or something where people can post comments and such…  But that shall come Later Hopefully someone will find the info useful! SW.

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You can’t imagine how useful! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings again For some time now, I have spent various amounts of my online time searching the web for legitimate, reputable, online pharmacies, and checking their prices for various meds that I am on [almost all of which are asthma/allergy meds]. The differences in prices has been… fascinating…  Especially when comparing what I pay at retail stores and what the prices are online… Knowing that this information is useful for me, I am assuming that it would be useful for others  And, even if you do have insurance, you may want to take a look at what the prices are like [if nothing else, it will make you appreciate the value and cost of your insurance *When doing well* I spend $450 a month on meds, with no insurance, and I would gladly pay a few hundred a month to HAVE insurance...]. So… Within the next couple of days I will be posting a webpage of comparative drug prices. As of right now, I have prices on: Ventolin nebulizer solution Intal MDI Intal nebulizer solution Pulmicort turbuhaler Zyrtec [10 mg tablets] Serevent MDI Serevent Diskus And have used the following online pharmacies: PlanetRx DrugEmporium Drugstore.com <which is a Rite-Aid pharmacy] Eckerd.com If you have meds you would like included in the list, or online pharmacies to recommend…  Please let me know [preferrably by email so that I don't miss it, but posting to the newsgroup is fine too; or do both ].  I will try to include as many as I can, though I do reserve the right to pick and choose which ones will be included. For now, I am limiting the page to asthma and allergy meds [which therefore does include antihistamines], and will also for now limit it to those meds that require an Rx in the USA… I may add other comparative info… and maybe a guestbook or something where people can post comments and such…  But that shall come Later Hopefully someone will find the info useful! SW.

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What say you all???

I say all things in moderation. I don’t see how it could be any worse than breathing while driving a car, or drinking treated water, drinking regular coke or coffee, or getting a measles shot. .. Bridget M. Atkins maintenance for life.

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Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural.

And your statement "seems" like unscientific garbage. Sugar is  processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I  think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake.

Don’t listen to this dumbass.  Use the Splenda, and DON’T use sugar. –Bryan

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I say, neither, but rather, like most things, some good and some evil.   Priscilla — Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.   (thanks be to topfive.com)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural. And your statement "seems" like unscientific garbage. Sugar is  processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I  think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake. Don’t listen to this dumbass.  Use the Splenda, and DON’T use sugar.

Geez, what’s your problem?  I think what he said makes a lot of sense. Priscilla — Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.   (thanks be to topfive.com)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural. And your statement "seems" like unscientific garbage. Sugar is  processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake. Don’t listen to this dumbass.  Use the Splenda, and DON’T use sugar. Geez, what’s your problem?  I think what he said makes a lot of sense.

i think so too.  i can handle small amounts of sugar – a tablespoon of organic sugar or maple syrup in my oatmeal doesn’t send me over the moon with cravings.  i’m one of those annoying people who prefers "real" food over "artificial," so for my purposes small amounts of sugar work just fine.  

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i think so too.  i can handle small amounts of sugar – a tablespoon of organic sugar or maple syrup in my oatmeal doesn’t send me over the moon with cravings.  i’m one of those annoying people who prefers "real" food over "artificial," so for my purposes small amounts of sugar work just fine.  

My summertime morning iced tea tastes putrid to me with only artificial sweetener in it, so I use some sugar and some fake sweetener and am getting used to having it be not nearly as sweet as I used to drink it.   In cool weather my mug of hot tea in the morning has one level teaspoon of real sugar in it.  It doesn’t taste right otherwise.  One teaspoon doesn’t seem to spike me much, and sugar is a much safer carb to eat than, say, potatoes. Priscilla, T2, good control with LC — Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.   (thanks be to topfive.com)

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I agree completely, but have never been able to word it as well, Archon.  I use a little sugar in my hot beverages and control the amount very carefully.  I do not seek to replace all manner of sweets and carbs through articifical means and don’t feel prohibited or cheated because the basic lo carb diet is stabilizing enough to have banished my former cravings. Your reply is particularly timely because I was about to go shopping for Stevia today even though I’m having no hitch in my weight loss with the small of amounts (as compared to before) of sugar I’m consuming.  What do you think of Stevia, btw? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural. Sugar is processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake.

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Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant. Noone told the millions of people using it that it would be addictive and hell to get off of.  There are people all over the internet signing petitions to start a class action lawsuit against the drug company.  Anyway, I digress, but my point is that just because the government says Splenda is safe, imo, does not necessarily make it so. I’ve been reading a few things on it lately and it’s made me a little cautious of using it now. jmo

Nasty. See why I dislike medication? I wasn’t saying – have no expertice to do so – that Splenda is or may be harmful. Just that I don’t like the idea. Btw it does remind me about the margerine episode – replace butter with margerine. It’s fat altered so the body doesn’t recognize it as fat – like with Splenda it’s sugar altered so the body doesn’t recognize it as sugar. I prefer something the body knows what is and then just use less of it. — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE Music:   http://mp3.com/archon2 Website: http://www.archonia.dk

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BTW, How many carbs in a teaspoon of sugar vs sugar substitutes? DC 187/174/155 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I say, neither, but rather, like most things, some good and some evil.   Priscilla

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BTW, How many carbs in a teaspoon of sugar vs sugar substitutes?

A standard teaspoon (5 ml) sugar is 4 gram. — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE Music:   http://mp3.com/archon2 Website: http://www.archonia.dk

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Don’t listen to this dumbass.  Use the Splenda, and DON’T use sugar.

Do you earn your living selling Splenda? If not, why so emotionally involved? — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE Music:   http://mp3.com/archon2 Website: http://www.archonia.dk

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I agree completely, but have never been able to word it as well, Archon.  I use a little sugar in my hot beverages and control the amount very carefully.

A small teapsoon (5 gram) in my tea is too sweet for me (6 months ago I’d NEVER believe I would EVER say "it’s too sweet for me"!). I just use a squirt of heavy cream that gives a very pleasant mouth feel and satisfying effect and also sweetens it, smoothes the tannin, and produces a taste that kinda turns me on!   I do not seek to replace all manner of sweets and carbs through articifical means and don’t feel prohibited or cheated because the basic lo carb diet is stabilizing enough to have banished my former cravings.

One must beware of not becoming fanatic (see note) about it and treat oneself sometimes. And I find it more romantic and "healthy for the soul" to use natural things. I like some of the mottos for these diets: Don’t eat processed/refined foods, eat whole foods. I thinks it’s a shame that everything have to be so synthetic these days (I really hate those polyester shirts!) There’s medicine for the silliest things – I don’t have any drugs in the house – not even headache pills. When I was given a prescription for something silly I didn’t take it (if I was a doctor I’d say "get off all non critical medication, eat lowcarb, and buy some good inline skates and get out there and exercise". dealing with everythign with medicine weakens the body’s natural defence). And in my area I’m the one who’s least ill and sick – I saw a post theorizing that saturated fat may improve the immune system and I have always eaten huge amounts of whipped cream! My research is about improving performance in agriculture without using chemical means. Optimising fertilizer leaving no residual fertilizer in the soil, and minimizing need for toxins and finally leading to mechanical weeding. Note: Since I started this diet I’ve often been accused of being fanatic, though! I tell that I don’t deny myself of things, but the food I eat now is actually better. Last time I was called fanatic I could tell that I had just the day before felt like having good old-fashioned Danish pancakes (sweet crepes with raw cane sugar and strawberry jam). So I just made them – ate all I could eat (which was less than I used to be able to) and so I got my pancake fix (didn’t have any jam in the house so I used strawberries and whipped cream instead – so actually more lowcarb than I’d normally eat them!) Your reply is particularly timely because I was about to go shopping for Stevia today even though I’m having no hitch in my weight loss with the small of amounts (as compared to before) of sugar I’m consuming.  What do you think of Stevia, btw?

I’m not familiar with it – is it what used to be called Nutrasweet (which got banned in Denmark when I was a teenager)? — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE Music:   http://mp3.com/archon2 Website: http://www.archonia.dk

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Many diabetics and LC`ers use them, I mean millions of us, are we all wrong and those two right?

so the millions of you that use it are either diabetic or overweight? hmmm…..

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant.  Which antidepressant? — Mike Graham                  | Metalworker, rustic, part-time zealot. <http://www.metalmangler.com| First run on low-carb: 320lbs to 210lbs.            Restarted June 01/2003 – 245/236/not sure.                  DENIQUE DIAETAM EFFICACEM INVENI

Effexor.  Do a google search on Effexor withdrawals.  Thousands of people are suffering needlessly. ~~Lisa~~ 230/217/150 Started Atkins 06/04/03 Mark 10:26 ~ With God all things are possible.   The only thing worse then being alone is wishing you were.

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Hi, Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant.   Which antidepressant?

I’m guessing Paxil.  It’s got a bad rep for that sort of thing. Take care, Carmen

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Hi Lisa, Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant.  Which antidepressant? Effexor.  Do a google search on Effexor withdrawals.  Thousands of people are suffering needlessly.

I guessed wrong then.  I thought it was Paxil.  How did Effexor work with the depression? Take care, Carmen

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Lisa, Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant.  Which antidepressant? Effexor.  Do a google search on Effexor withdrawals.  Thousands of people are suffering needlessly. I guessed wrong then.  I thought it was Paxil.  How did Effexor work with the depression? Take care, Carmen

Carmen, It did okay, but if I missed a dose by an hour or so the withdrawal symptoms were terrible.  I just couldn’t help thinking what this crap was doing to my body and my brain that I would react that way. I’ve never been much of a drug person anyway and so I’ve just decided to try and get off of it all and treat the FMS some other way. I’m researching vitamin therapy at the moment. ~~Lisa~~ 230/217/150 Started Atkins 06/04/03 Mark 10:26 ~ With God all things are possible.   The only thing worse then being alone is wishing you were.

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Effexor.  Do a google search on Effexor withdrawals.  Thousands of people are suffering needlessly.

  I was curious because I’ve known several people who went on Wellbutrin for a short period (to quit smoking) and none of them had any difficulties with it. — Mike Graham                  | Metalworker, rustic, part-time zealot. <http://www.metalmangler.com| First run on low-carb: 320lbs to 210lbs.             Restarted June 01/2003 – 245/236/not sure.                   DENIQUE DIAETAM EFFICACEM INVENI

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural. Sugar is processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake. — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE

Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant. Noone told the millions of people using it that it would be addictive and hell to get off of.  There are people all over the internet signing petitions to start a class action lawsuit against the drug company.  Anyway, I digress, but my point is that just because the government says Splenda is safe, imo, does not necessarily make it so. I’ve been reading a few things on it lately and it’s made me a little cautious of using it now. jmo ~~Lisa~~ 230/217/150 Started Atkins 06/04/03 Mark 10:26 ~ With God all things are possible.   The only thing worse then being alone is wishing you were.

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i think so too.  i can handle small amounts of sugar – a tablespoon of organic sugar   Just so’s you know, sugar is sugar.  ’Organic sugar’ is no better for you than the regular sucrose that you get in the big bag for cheap.  The organic stuff is more likely to have contamination issues, as well.

i’m well aware that sugar is sugar; however, cane sugar tastes different than beet sugar does, and performs differently in baking.   evaporated cane juice sugar, to me, tastes better and gives better baking results – so that’s what i buy.  evaporated cane juice sugar is usually organic.  i don’t go out of my way to buy organic anything ever (i’m too poor), but the brand of sugar i prefer happens to be organic. so that’s what i typed.  

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Great post, Michael.  I’ve been wondering about Splenda myself and what you said made a lot of sense.  I for one do not trust everything the government says is safe.  Prime example is a drug I’ve been trying to get off of for 2 months now.  Just a "harmless" antidepressant.

  Which antidepressant? — Mike Graham                  | Metalworker, rustic, part-time zealot. <http://www.metalmangler.com| First run on low-carb: 320lbs to 210lbs.             Restarted June 01/2003 – 245/236/not sure.                   DENIQUE DIAETAM EFFICACEM INVENI

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i think so too.  i can handle small amounts of sugar – a tablespoon of organic sugar

  Just so’s you know, sugar is sugar.  ’Organic sugar’ is no better for you than the regular sucrose that you get in the big bag for cheap.  The organic stuff is more likely to have contamination issues, as well. — Mike Graham                  | Metalworker, rustic, part-time zealot. <http://www.metalmangler.com| First run on low-carb: 320lbs to 210lbs.             Restarted June 01/2003 – 245/236/not sure.                   DENIQUE DIAETAM EFFICACEM INVENI

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Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. Now I read that it may be very bad for me.  Should I stop using it and just use regular sugar?  I hate Sweetnlow so that wasn’t an option, and the Equal has got Aspartme (sp).  Having a little sweet something now and then is a treat that I’m hoping I can get one way or the other, I just want to make the best choice. What say you all???

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Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now. Now I read that it may be very bad for me.  Should I stop using it and just use regular sugar?  I hate Sweetnlow so that wasn’t an option, and the Equal has got Aspartme (sp).  Having a little sweet something now and then is a treat that I’m hoping I can get one way or the other, I just want to make the best choice. What say you all???

Hi, Splenda and aspartame are completely and totally safe. They both been repeatedly tested by a whole lot of government regulatory agencies in a whole lot of different countries, and always passed. The possible and imaginary dangers are from the distorted minds of Mad Betty Martin and lunatic David Icke ( in th US and the UK respectively). Many diabetics and LC`ers use them, I mean millions of us, are we all wrong and those two right? hth — Al, Melton Mowbray, UK, diabetic Low-Carb a la Bernstein

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Hello All, I have read in Adkin’s books about Splenda which is a artificial sweetner.  I have heard some folks swear by it because they can cook with it. I live overseas on an Air Force Base and I was shocked that we had it so I got some.  I only have it maybe twice a day with my caffine free coffee or my green tea.  That is the ONLY sugur I have used in weeks now.

When you use that little you might try real sugar and see if you can handle it. To me Splenda seems too processed and unnatural. Sugar is processed from beets or canes and then further processed into Splenda. Wonderful things happen when you don’t eat as much sweet anymore and I think using something "safe" like Splenda to sweeten might make you use more and thus will keep you addicted to sweetness, thus ruining the experience of real food. If you use sugar you know you have to limit your intake. — Michael Nielsen M.Sc.EE Music:   http://mp3.com/archon2 Website: http://www.archonia.dk

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Has anyone heard of Zoloft withdrawal lasting longer than a couple of weeks? I was taking 200 to 250 mg Zoloft daily (increased during PMS) and then switched to Celexa. I was frustrated with neither of them helping my depression, so I unwisely abruptly discontinued the medication. My withdrawal symptoms ranged from moderate to severe…initially, I experienced extreme agitation, anxiety, crying, uncharacteristic rage, and formication (sensation that bugs were crawling on me). With the help of my doctor, I restarted a low dose of Celexa (I had been on 20 mg prior to this) and tapered off–but still quicker than I should have because I’m stubborn. The main problems that persisted for a couple of weeks were numbness and tingling in my arms and legs, and then spontaneous pain or muscle spasms in my legs. (Pretty darn painful). That and gastro-intestinal distress. My doctor felt that most of this was actually withdrawal from the Zoloft, not Celexa. She felt that the Celexa had prevented me from going into Zoloft withdrawal, but when I discontinued Celexa, the Zoloft withdrawal kicked in. From what I’ve read about other people’s experiences with Zoloft withdrawal, my symptoms do appear to match theirs. I had been taking Zoloft (at different doses) for about 4 years. I tried other medications during that time, but I was unable to tolerate most of them. I am very sensitive to medications and tend to have side effects with just about everything I take, usually to the point where I don’t want to take anything. Back to the symptoms–after 2-1/2 weeks, these symptoms diminished. 3-1/2 weeks after the initial discontinuation, however, I had a flare-up of gastro-intenstinal distress that lasted a day or two. Then, 4-1/2 weeks after the initial discontinuation (maybe 2 weeks since stopping the mild tapering-off) I experienced the leg pain, numbness, tingling along with severe stomach cramps and such. I did not expect to still be experiencing withdrawal symptoms, so I’m confused. Am I imagining things? Is this something else? Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Hi, I’ve been a low-fat type person for a long time.  The last six months I’ve been on Paxil and have gained some weight.  The low fat diet isn’t helping me.  Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb?  Thanks! Thought of the day:         Give a man an inch, and he thinks he’s a ruler.

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Hi Dosbabe! I’ve been on Prosac for over a decade, happily, and have had some good results.  I not one of the fastest losers, but I’ve managed to take off about 50 pounds. The only side effect that I seem to have is an increased thirst and difficulty waking up in the mornings.  My sleep has become very, very deep. Good luck! suzi_cream_cheese 262/213/145

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been a low-fat type person for a long time.  The last six months I’ve been on Paxil and have gained some weight.  The low fat diet isn’t helping me.  Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb?  Thanks! Thought of the day: Give a man an inch, and he thinks he’s a ruler.

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Yeah I’m taking zoloft and doing fine. According to Schwarzbein (TheSchwarzbein Principle), A low carb diet will help balance out the chemical soup inside your head. She claims insulin resistance= high carb diet,  is one of the things that unbalance and deplete serotonin in your brain. Which is the same thing that antidepressants try and balance. Give it a try. After talking with your Doc. first.

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Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose. hinesrance

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Funny you mention that, because I missed my Effexor dose this morning and am curious as to what the results are going to be. Only been on it for about 2 months so may not be too noticeable. I haven’t noticed any side effects as far as appetite goes. Definetly make me sleepy though Jason Atkins since 10/5/00 240/172 http://geocities.com/calabresejason/lowcarb.html

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Is Effexor one of the older type antidepressants or is it related to the same family as Paxil? Thanks I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Thought of the day:         Count Every Thorn a Flower; Every Sharp Rock a Milestone

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Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb?

I was on Prozac when I first started just over 3 years ago.  It didn’t hinder my losing 60 pounds. I tried Imiprimine last month for help with sleep as I have fibromyalgia.  I couldn’t take it as it made me sweat and also caused terrible sweets cravings. I’ve been on Trazodone for 10 days and am not having any problems so far. Good Luck. TamH in VT

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

A gal came into my gift shop today and we were talking about diet.  She said that she started on Efflexor a few weeks ago and has lost weight because she’s not craving carbs.  She’s not even really dieting. TamH in VT

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Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

My daughter was also on Paxil and gained weight she didn’t need.  She stopped using Paxil and went to Prozac and has had no problems and lost all the weight she gained.  I’ve been on Prozac since 1989 and haven’t had any problems with it either.  I gained a lot of weight when I stopped smoking (50lbs) and  being sick and inactive for so long.  I would suggest you talk to your Dr. about a different antidepressant.  Paxil has a rep for putting on the pounds. — Liz 362/342/200/135 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -^..^<

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I agree, Effexor is the greatest–you don’t even know you are taking it unless you miss a dose.

Well, I took effexor for 3 days and slept like in a coma.  Could not stay awake.  When I did finally manage to awaken, I walked around like a zombie with a spinning head.  Now, my daugher in law takes it and she only has to take naps everyday after work. — Liz 362/342/200/135 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -^..^< hinesrance Paxil made me gain 50 pounds quick. I switched to Efexxor and feel much better. Lost the weight too. Jeff

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I am on Zoloft and am experiencing continued weight loss. You might see if your doctor would switch you. Ginger in OK

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb? I was on Prozac when I first started just over 3 years ago.  It didn’t hinder my losing 60 pounds. I tried Imiprimine last month for help with sleep as I have fibromyalgia. I couldn’t take it as it made me sweat and also caused terrible sweets cravings. I’ve been on Trazodone for 10 days and am not having any problems so far. Good Luck. TamH in VT

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ginger, menu and exercise? — read and post daily! rosie "If we could share this world below, if we could learn to love… If we could share this world below, we’d need no world above."

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am on Zoloft and am experiencing continued weight loss. You might see if your doctor would switch you. Ginger in OK Has anyone on antidepressants had a successful diet experience with low-carb? I was on Prozac when I first started just over 3 years ago.  It didn’t hinder my losing 60 pounds. I tried Imiprimine last month for help with sleep as I have fibromyalgia. I couldn’t take it as it made me sweat and also caused terrible sweets cravings. I’ve been on Trazodone for 10 days and am not having any problems so far. Good Luck. TamH in VT

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You seem to be missing my point.  If you are as desparate as you keep saying I don’t understand why you don’t just go have the treatment.  You say you are treatment resistant.  Are you really, or are you just resistant to treatment? You can’t shove it down someone else’s throat while avoiding it yourself. I am not dismissing your situation.  I really feel sorry for the shape you say you are in.  What does bother me is that you sit here and dismiss everyone elses problems like they don’t matter.  You can’t possibly know the situations that other people are in.  How about 30 years of semi-living?  How about attempted su*c*de and no one cared, didn’t even know?  How about throwing friends out the window because you are too tired and depressed to give them the time of day?  How about 30 years of excuses?  Maybe it isn’t major to you, but it sure can be hell on the ones suffering, not to mention the families they created.  I could go on and on, but I hope you can at least get the jest of what I am trying to say.  Who knows, maybe there was some major depression thrown in along the way. All I know is that it is just as hard on us as yours is on you.  You have to stop with all the assumptions, you don’t know.

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The odds of Tylenol actually killing you is low.

Eric!!  Arrgh. If you take a full bottle of extra-strength Tylenol and don’t go to the hospital for the next few days, the odds of Tylenol actually killing you are about 100%. Denise

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Eric!!  Arrgh. If you take a full bottle of extra-strength Tylenol and don’t go to the hospital for the next few days, the odds of Tylenol actually killing you are about 100%. Denise Awww come on now. How come that isnt in that book "Final Exit?" I think your full of crap. Eric

Okay… since you want to press it…  :-) I haven’t read Final Exit, but if it’s not in there, I imagine that’s because: 1) It’s a horrible way to die — very painful and slow, over a period of days or even a couple of weeks; 2) There is a good chance you’ll recover if someone finds you and gets you to the hospital within the first day for treatment (because there are chemical antidotes that can be administered); and 3) If you do survive, you might be left with permanent liver damage. So, I can see why someone writing a "how-to" book like Final Exit would not want to list Tylenol overdose as a recommended method.   Still, people use it frequently.  Some choose it because that’s what they have access to and they know it will work, and others because that’s what they have access to and they *don’t* realize it will work. It’s an especially big problem among teenagers — swallowing a bunch of Tylenol as a suicidal gesture, not realizing how lethal it can be. Also, because Tylenol is perceived to be safe, friends and family don’t always think to get it out of the home of somenoe who is suicidal. Some countries have even looked at limiting how many Tylenol can be bought at one time in order to curb its use in suicides. Anyway, just because you told me I’m full of crap (:-

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It was recently suggested to my uncle by his doctor that he should take Zoloft for depression along with the 2mg./per day of Xanax that he’s taken since Feb. 1998. None of the other anti-depressants he’s taken have helped him. In that they have cancelled out the effect of the Xanax, which in his case, does reduce the sound. It then takes him a day or two to get the Xanax to be effective again. He was told that Xanax and Zoloft work well together. Have any of you had any experience with these drugs in a combo form? And also, what is an average dosage of Zoloft? He realizes that the anti-depressants won’t help the tinnitus, but he needs something for depression. He’s tried prozac, klonopin & wellbuturin to no avail.                                                                   Thanks

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acj…@aol.com (ACJ942) wrote:

It was recently suggested to my uncle by his doctor that he should take Zoloft for depression along with the 2mg./per day of Xanax that he’s taken since Feb. 1998. None of the other anti-depressants he’s taken have helped him. In that they have cancelled out the effect of the Xanax, which in his case, does reduce the sound. It then takes him a day or two to get the Xanax to be effective again. He was told that Xanax and Zoloft work well together. Have any of you had any experience with these drugs in a combo form? And also, what is an average dosage of Zoloft? He realizes that the anti-depressants won’t help the tinnitus, but he needs something for depression. He’s tried prozac, klonopin & wellbuturin to no avail.                                                                  Thanks

……….. Each person’s individual response to psychopharmacological therapy for depression depends upon innumerable factors.  In general, though, the combination of an SSRI and a benzodiazepine is a very rational and often every effective approach. Prozac/Xanax or Zoloft/Xanax are pretty classic combinations in this regard; I use them often as part of the treatment of tinnitus-related depression, though you are absolutely correct in that Zoloft does not impact the tinnitus directly at all (and in my mind it is questionable whether or not Xanax does). The starting dose of Zoloft is usually 50mg/day. stephen nagler Stephen M. Nagler, MD, FACS Director Southeastern Comprehensive Tinnitus Clinic Atlanta, Georgia (404) 531-3979 www.tinn.com

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Mina : I know that Zoloft (and I think Prozac) can be "safely" taken after the 1st trimester. I took Zoloft for anxiety and it helped. Talk to your doctor about it. Laurie

: I wanted to know if there are any medications that pregnant women : can take for anixiety disorder without harming the fetus? I have : heard that the symptoms can come back while pregnant. It is bad enough : to be worried about pregnancy and all. But to have panic attacks while : pregnant would be real hell. Also would bio-feed back do any good. : My doctor wants me to get that done to help control my IBS. Has anyone : had any luck with bio feedback. I think I read somewhere that it is a : waste of time for panic attacks and all. Thanks in advance for any help. : Mina

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I’m close to 32 weeks pregnant and have been taking a low dose of elavil throughout my pregnancy.  Certainly there are risks associated with taking medications during pregnancy and I can’t say I’ve been worry-free throughout.  However, the literature that does exist on use of Elavil (and other meds used to treat Anxiety and/or PD) indicate that the risks are relatively low to the fetus.  It’s a matter of risk versus benefit.  I was able to go through my 1st two pregnancies without medications.  I was having more problems before this preg. so I decided to continue, especially in light of the low dose that I take.  It wasn’t an easy decision but was the right one for me.  I hope and pray we’ll be able to report the birth of our new healthy daughter in 8 weeks or less! Jessica – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I wanted to know if there are any medications that pregnant women : can take for anixiety disorder without harming the fetus? I have : heard that the symptoms can come back while pregnant. It is bad enough : to be worried about pregnancy and all. But to have panic attacks while : pregnant would be real hell. Also would bio-feed back do any good. : My doctor wants me to get that done to help control my IBS. Has anyone : had any luck with bio feedback. I think I read somewhere that it is a : waste of time for panic attacks and all. Thanks in advance for any help. : Mina

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I wanted to know if there are any medications that pregnant women can take for anixiety disorder without harming the fetus? I have heard that the symptoms can come back while pregnant. It is bad enough to be worried about pregnancy and all. But to have panic attacks while pregnant would be real hell. Also would bio-feed back do any good. My doctor wants me to get that done to help control my IBS. Has anyone had any luck with bio feedback. I think I read somewhere that it is a waste of time for panic attacks and all. Thanks in advance for any help. Mina

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