Sorry dude, I tend to agree on the side effects of Xanax..I actually was on Xanax for almost 3 yrs, AND (forgive me) was working as a P.medic at the same time…I was a walking zombie and my partners had to cover my azz more than once cuz I was falling asleep everywhere..I couldnt think straight…I couldnt DRIVE at all, and put my car in the ditch at least once…I was trying to attend college but my grades dropped like a bomb..I felt like I was in another world (I was taking this for panic attacks)…then finally, one day, I was getting into the ambulance and fell out the back door while closing it…that was enuff..withdrawal was HEAVENLY..*I love to puke, since IM also bulimic so this was right up my alley…sigghh…the dry heaves was an added bonus since I also like to punish myself..the headaches werent so cool thooo…any other questions about this lovely wonder drug? Paxil: I just took this one 2 yrs ago for depression..was on it for about 9 mos….It made me nauseous and my stomach hurt all the time..I had headaches and felt like I had a cold all the time (stuffy head feeling)..withdrawal was not as bad as with some others, but there still was the nauseau/vomiting thing etc..so it felt just like I was still taking it till it was out of my system…blah…~Ima – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – People with biplar disorder should not take Paxil or any other anti depressant long term. I am sick and tired about all these posts trying to scare people away from trying xanax. As someone who has suffered from bipolar disorder(type 2) for 15 years, tried all the antidepressants, now on a cocktail of meds, including xanax and paxil, my experience is that PAXIL has many more adverse effects versus the marginal benefit of some anxiety relief. I took Paxil for 5 months and was not taking any xanax, and I got some anticapation anxiety relief at the cost of NO LIBIDO, sleeping 12 hours a day, having no motivation, just didn’t give a shit, already gained 10 pounds in 5 months with the carbo craving…..And people want to talk about xanax dependency and problems with withdrawl. I am not trying to minimize people’s experience or their pain, but with anxiety or other mental health issues, the word is YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY(YMMY). I am a college graduate in electrical engineering from a top 5 engineering college, and now have not worked for over two years mostly because of anxiety and some depression yearly. After working for 11 years struggling with depression and anxiety, I now have a hard time stepping outside my home. I have considered suicide 1000’s of times over the last 15 years, actually researched and made the plans and was about to end it, and then I started on the Paxil…….Yeah, my suicidal obsessions went away, but now I was content to veg out all day watching TY or on the Net, my desire to GET A JOB disappeared. Go research web sites and you will see how many people have problems with SSRI’s, yeah they are alive and taking that $3 pill two times a day or many $3 pills for me, but now I am NUMB and just there. Prior to Paxil I use to be a emotional person, felt the pain of others and would cry when touched by something, but now I am a Paxil-zombie, yeah some anxiety relief but a LOT OF ME is also gone. So all those xanax phobics, please allow people to fail with their options without scaring them. What are people’s choices when it comes to anxiety or panic, yes paxil, yes benzo’s, yes MAIO’s, yes CBT(Cognitive Behavior Therapy). My experience is PAXIL SUCKS and THE WITHDRAWAL IS HORRIBLE BASED ON MUCH FEEDBACK I HAVE READ ON THE NET, MAIO’S like parnate have some studies that back them up but the food restrictions are VERY DIFFICULT(no cheese, wine, beer, chocolate, many OTC meds, etc.), CBT might work for some but the feedback I have heard is that CBT plus meds work the best and I HAVE DONE THE THERAPY ROUTE and it was a waste of money. As one doctor told me, people who suffer from PANIC and think they are dieing have never been told that "your not going to die, it is all in your head"…Well that was my last session with him. Just to repeat, this is MY EXPERIENCE and YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. Now I could continue to HIBERNATE IN MY HOUSE, NOT WORK, RUN OUT OF MONEY AND THEN BE HOMELESS…..Or I can be proactive and continue to experiment and try to find some solution that will allow me to work and have a life. I have taken xanax in the past, just started it one month ago, still taking a low dose of paxil, and I am MUCH MUCH BETTER at dealing with day to day life, interacting with people, giving my shit done, etc. Yeah, maybe I will be taking xanax for the rest of my life but the only side effect I have had is some sleepiness. And to those who talk about TOLERANCE BUILDUP, that is a CROCK, yes you might have to increase your xanax from .25mg 3 times a day to .50mg 3 times a day, there are people who have taken xanax for 5 to 15 years and most leveled out after 1 year at a dose and have no desire to increase. People need to do some research and FIND OUT THE REAL TRUTH, not what BIG PHARMA and BIG BUSINESS OWNED MEDIA OUTLETS want us to believe. Not to be cynical, but $3 no generic available paxil is much better for DRUG COMPANIES, then CHEAP GENERIC XANAX which might be more effective with less side-effects. Why are benzo’s so hard to get, cause drug lobbiest have access to CONGRESS and made sure that THE NO-PROFIT SOLUTIONS(IE LIKE BENZO’S) are not readily available. Linda Channell, (740) 548-6874, 88 Ravine Rd, Powell, OH 43065 Let me make THE NEWCOMERS TO MENTAL ILLNESS aware that HYPE ABOUT THE LATEST ANTIDEPRESSANT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WILL BE MADE ON THE DRUG, and the only time you will hear about THE NEGATIVES about that drug will be when it comes off-patent. Now that we have generic prozac, we will hear more about side effects like NO LIBIDO, WEIGHT GAIN, SUICIDE, AND OTHER EFEECTS. Of course, as long as Paxil and Zoloft have no generics, MEDIA HYPE will be still muted, but give it time. Just as all the SSRI’s go generic, we will hear about ALL THE NEGATIVES and out will come the new batch of 8 TO 12 WEEK STUDIED ANTIDEPRESSANTS to start the new profit cycle. People with mental illness are just pawns, half ass useless meds are approved based on 8 week studies, NO REASON FOR A LONG TERM STUDY, we really don’t want to KNOW THE TRUTH, and as soon as the generics start rolling out, OUT COMES THE DIRTY LAUNDRY, not to HELP US, NO, ONLY SO THAT WE GO ON THE LATEST $5 PILL THAT HAS A 80% SUCCESS RATE AND EVEN LESS SIDE EFFECTS. Hell as long as everyone is making money, who cares about THE CRAZIES that take the product, we just need them alive and taking their meds. Now I forget, was I taking about the cigarette industry or drug companies, HELL WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. This of course is just the opinion of a mentally ill patient with 15 years of experience popping pills, all of which have a 70% effective rate, but I guess I am the exception, "ALIVE" AND NOT SUICIDAL, AND NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. White Knight
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry dude, I tend to agree on the side effects of Xanax..I actually was on Xanax for almost 3 yrs, AND (forgive me) was working as a P.medic at the same time…I was a walking zombie and my partners had to cover my azz more than once cuz I was falling asleep everywhere..I couldnt think straight…I couldnt DRIVE at all, and put my car in the ditch at least once…I was trying to attend college but my grades dropped like a bomb..I felt like I was in another world (I was taking this for panic attacks)…then finally, one day, I was getting into the ambulance and fell out the back door while closing it…that was enuff..withdrawal was HEAVENLY..*I love to puke, since IM also bulimic so this was right up my alley…sigghh…the dry heaves was an added bonus since I also like to punish myself..the headaches werent so cool thooo…any other questions about this lovely wonder drug? Paxil: I just took this one 2 yrs ago for depression..was on it for about 9 mos….It made me nauseous and my stomach hurt all the time..I had headaches and felt like I had a cold all the time (stuffy head feeling)..withdrawal was not as bad as with some others, but there still was the nauseau/vomiting thing etc..so it felt just like I was still taking it till it was out of my system…blah…~Ima
The worst thing about it, in my experience is the panic attacks that arose from reaching tolerance level. After many years, maybe 7 or 10, I started getting severe panic attacks every day; it was a nightmare. I got out of it myself by searching the net and suspecting that indeed this was addiction. But my doctor did not know this I don’t think — I was helped and contratulated to get off altogether. I believe that the longer term benzos are different in this respect – perhaps requiring much longer time to reach tolerance or habituation of the nervous system. I no longer have panic attacks – they destroyed my life and my career during my 30s and 40s – I’m wondering what’s next with the rest of my meds. Squiggles
the only thing that helped me was the book traveling light.I recommend it to anyone.its by Max Lucado.
the only thing that helped me was the book traveling light.I recommend it to anyone.its by Max Lucado.
Dawn, No offense but just because the medical establishment hasn’t got it right on psychopharmacology, doesn’t mean that Christianity does. If it helped you that’s good, but spirituality is one thing and medicine another. Squiggles
Squiggles, I was not telling anyone that they had to go off their medication,I was just letting everyone know that I like that book and I want everyone to know that it was good.it had nothing to do with medication,because no matter how much I believe in god as my savior,I will always be mentally ill.I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you in anyway.
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
You should have a "post new message" or "new message" command around somewhere, use that instead of replying to someone else’s post. If you reply it will appear linked to the post to which you replied, even if you change the subject line. Can’t be more specific without knowing what program you’re using. Fiona — If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste the adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome. – Anne Bradstreet, Meditations Divine and Moral, 1664
"Dawn" wrote I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
Do you have a "New Post" button? Oh, I see Fiona has already enswered this. Well, good luck, Dawn. Hugs, TK
Squiggles, I was not telling anyone that they had to go off their medication,I was just letting everyone know that I like that book and I want everyone to know that it was good.it had nothing to do with medication,because no matter how much I believe in god as my savior,I will always be mentally ill.I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you in anyway.
OK – sorry, I suppose I have become hypervigilant to propaganda on the net. I apologize. Squiggles
Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression.
All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles
You have done it! Victoria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Road Runner Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.personality,alt.support.depression .me dication I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression. All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes. Summary Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, ‘blackouts’ and learned tasks. These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow. CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users. The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration. Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life. In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent. http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression. All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes. Summary Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, ‘blackouts’ and learned tasks. These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow. CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users. The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration. Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life. In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent. http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm
Right, Am I speaking with Ray or Rand or possible David Woolfe’s ghost? Squiggles
You have done it!
Depends on how the newsreader threads it. In Netscape this shows up with the new subject line but still under the old thread, so I don’t see the new subject line unless I open the old thread for it. Fiona — If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste the adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome. – Anne Bradstreet, Meditations Divine and Moral, 1664
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
You just title it and post it 
usnig new message.I have a AC and have the option of posting to the ngs. — LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer
Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele
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thanks Michelle I was a little confused.I am new to this.I just started.thanks
I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin
correct. very seriously, if left untreated and they are severe convulsions… — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
Now I’m confused. (?) ~Michele
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thanks Michelle I was a little confused.I am new to this.I just started.thanks
Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele
thats probably cos she hit reply to one of those messages that was crossposted to all and sundry… its not her fault. m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
I didn’t mean for it to sound mean. I really wanted to know who she was posting to. I’m confused.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele thats probably cos she hit reply to one of those messages that was crossposted to all and sundry… its not her fault. m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
I didn’t mean for it to sound mean. I really wanted to know who she was posting to. I’m confused.
its okay. which group are you on? i think this was intended for alt.support.depression.manic m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
Good author—-writes good books!! cal
Gee, I have been using Klonopin off and on now for around..oh..10 yrs now..in doses from .5 mg to 5mgs daily…..and my brain isnt fried….(half-baked but not fried)…in fact, I had to have an IQ test for the state to see if I was qualified for rehab (and not retarded) last year and had a very hefty score above 140…*but I didnt get to join rehab cuz they tells me I aint KURED enuff to join the work force in doing the menial minimum wage training of cleaning dirty lunch trays-which is what they wanted to ‘train’ me to do-so I could RE-enter society…(I was a paramedic for 16 yrs prior, so cleaning lunch trays was considered something I would be qualified to do thru rehab).. Good thing Ive been taking them tranks tho..keeps my mind clean and ..um, um..what was I saying? Was I saying something? What the hell am I doing here anyway? Just forget it..I dont even know who you are..stop stealing my jacks or IM gonna tell.. ~Ima – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin correct. very seriously, if left untreated and they are severe convulsions… — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
i haven’t read this book yet—-what is the "theme"? i have read some of his other books—he is great. If this helped you, don’t let ANYONE discourage you!! cal
EXACTELY. What about the damage these other meds cause like Li and anti psychotics? We could go on and on. Or even the progressive nature of BP/ and connvulsions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin
I didn’t mean for it to sound mean. I really wanted to know who she was posting to. I’m confused.
its okay. which group are you on? i think this was intended for alt.support.depression.manic m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
Gee, I have been using Klonopin off and on now for around..oh..10 yrs now..in doses from .5 mg to 5mgs daily…..and my brain isnt fried….(half-baked but not fried)…in fact, I had to have an IQ test for the state to see if I was qualified for rehab (and not retarded) last year and had a very hefty score above 140…*but I didnt get to join rehab cuz they tells me I aint KURED enuff to join the work force in doing the menial minimum wage training of cleaning dirty lunch trays-which is what they wanted to ‘train’ me to do-so I could RE-enter society…(I was a paramedic for 16 yrs prior, so cleaning lunch trays was considered something I would be qualified to do thru rehab).. Good thing Ive been taking them tranks tho..keeps my mind clean and ..um, um..what was I saying? Was I saying something? What the hell am I doing here anyway? Just forget it..I dont even know who you are..stop stealing my jacks or IM gonna tell.. ~Ima – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin correct. very seriously, if left untreated and they are severe convulsions… — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
thanks Michelle I was a little confused.I am new to this.I just started.thanks
I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin
correct. very seriously, if left untreated and they are severe convulsions… — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
Now I’m confused. (?) ~Michele
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thanks Michelle I was a little confused.I am new to this.I just started.thanks
Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele
thats probably cos she hit reply to one of those messages that was crossposted to all and sundry… its not her fault. m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
I didn’t mean for it to sound mean. I really wanted to know who she was posting to. I’m confused.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele thats probably cos she hit reply to one of those messages that was crossposted to all and sundry… its not her fault. m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression. All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes. Summary Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, ‘blackouts’ and learned tasks. These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow. CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users. The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration. Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life. In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent. http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm
Right, Am I speaking with Ray or Rand or possible David Woolfe’s ghost? Squiggles
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
hey, dont worry…. what system are you using? if you’re on Outlook or Outlook Express, you should have a button at the top marked New Message… hit that instead of hitting reply…. its the same in netscape (which is what im using )…. m — ~~~~~<:~~~~~ iriXx "sometimes i get overcharged… that’s when you see sparks you ask me where the hell i’m going at a thousand feet per second…" radiohead: the tourist
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
You just title it and post it usnig new message.I have a AC and have the option of posting to the ngs. — LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer
Dawn I was wondering exactly who you are posting to. Cause right now you are posting to 5 different groups. ~Michele
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You have done it!
Depends on how the newsreader threads it. In Netscape this shows up with the new subject line but still under the old thread, so I don’t see the new subject line unless I open the old thread for it. Fiona — If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste the adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome. – Anne Bradstreet, Meditations Divine and Moral, 1664
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry dude, I tend to agree on the side effects of Xanax..I actually was on Xanax for almost 3 yrs, AND (forgive me) was working as a P.medic at the same time…I was a walking zombie and my partners had to cover my azz more than once cuz I was falling asleep everywhere..I couldnt think straight…I couldnt DRIVE at all, and put my car in the ditch at least once…I was trying to attend college but my grades dropped like a bomb..I felt like I was in another world (I was taking this for panic attacks)…then finally, one day, I was getting into the ambulance and fell out the back door while closing it…that was enuff..withdrawal was HEAVENLY..*I love to puke, since IM also bulimic so this was right up my alley…sigghh…the dry heaves was an added bonus since I also like to punish myself..the headaches werent so cool thooo…any other questions about this lovely wonder drug? Paxil: I just took this one 2 yrs ago for depression..was on it for about 9 mos….It made me nauseous and my stomach hurt all the time..I had headaches and felt like I had a cold all the time (stuffy head feeling)..withdrawal was not as bad as with some others, but there still was the nauseau/vomiting thing etc..so it felt just like I was still taking it till it was out of my system…blah…~Ima
The worst thing about it, in my experience is the panic attacks that arose from reaching tolerance level. After many years, maybe 7 or 10, I started getting severe panic attacks every day; it was a nightmare. I got out of it myself by searching the net and suspecting that indeed this was addiction. But my doctor did not know this I don’t think — I was helped and contratulated to get off altogether. I believe that the longer term benzos are different in this respect – perhaps requiring much longer time to reach tolerance or habituation of the nervous system. I no longer have panic attacks – they destroyed my life and my career during my 30s and 40s – I’m wondering what’s next with the rest of my meds. Squiggles
the only thing that helped me was the book traveling light.I recommend it to anyone.its by Max Lucado.
the only thing that helped me was the book traveling light.I recommend it to anyone.its by Max Lucado.
Dawn, No offense but just because the medical establishment hasn’t got it right on psychopharmacology, doesn’t mean that Christianity does. If it helped you that’s good, but spirituality is one thing and medicine another. Squiggles
Squiggles, I was not telling anyone that they had to go off their medication,I was just letting everyone know that I like that book and I want everyone to know that it was good.it had nothing to do with medication,because no matter how much I believe in god as my savior,I will always be mentally ill.I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you in anyway.
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
You should have a "post new message" or "new message" command around somewhere, use that instead of replying to someone else’s post. If you reply it will appear linked to the post to which you replied, even if you change the subject line. Can’t be more specific without knowing what program you’re using. Fiona — If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did not sometimes taste the adversity, prosperity would not be so welcome. – Anne Bradstreet, Meditations Divine and Moral, 1664
"Dawn" wrote I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
Do you have a "New Post" button? Oh, I see Fiona has already enswered this. Well, good luck, Dawn. Hugs, TK
Squiggles, I was not telling anyone that they had to go off their medication,I was just letting everyone know that I like that book and I want everyone to know that it was good.it had nothing to do with medication,because no matter how much I believe in god as my savior,I will always be mentally ill.I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you in anyway.
OK – sorry, I suppose I have become hypervigilant to propaganda on the net. I apologize. Squiggles
Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression.
All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles
You have done it! Victoria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: Road Runner Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.personality,alt.support.depression .me dication I want to know how to make or create a message so it doesn’t appear under someone else’s topic?that’s why squiggles got angry.
I have the impression that convulsions cause brain damage too. Goblin
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Benzodiazepines cause cognitive decline and depression. All of them? Gasp — I have to take clonazepam for bipolar disorder, and some kids have to take 10 times my dose for epilepsy. Are you sure? Squiggles Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes. Summary Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, ‘blackouts’ and learned tasks. These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow. CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users. The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration. Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life. In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent. http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm
Sorry dude, I tend to agree on the side effects of Xanax..I actually was on Xanax for almost 3 yrs, AND (forgive me) was working as a P.medic at the same time…I was a walking zombie and my partners had to cover my azz more than once cuz I was falling asleep everywhere..I couldnt think straight…I couldnt DRIVE at all, and put my car in the ditch at least once…I was trying to attend college but my grades dropped like a bomb..I felt like I was in another world (I was taking this for panic attacks)…then finally, one day, I was getting into the ambulance and fell out the back door while closing it…that was enuff..withdrawal was HEAVENLY..*I love to puke, since IM also bulimic so this was right up my alley…sigghh…the dry heaves was an added bonus since I also like to punish myself..the headaches werent so cool thooo…any other questions about this lovely wonder drug? Paxil: I just took this one 2 yrs ago for depression..was on it for about 9 mos….It made me nauseous and my stomach hurt all the time..I had headaches and felt like I had a cold all the time (stuffy head feeling)..withdrawal was not as bad as with some others, but there still was the nauseau/vomiting thing etc..so it felt just like I was still taking it till it was out of my system…blah…~Ima – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – People with biplar disorder should not take Paxil or any other anti depressant long term. I am sick and tired about all these posts trying to scare people away from trying xanax. As someone who has suffered from bipolar disorder(type 2) for 15 years, tried all the antidepressants, now on a cocktail of meds, including xanax and paxil, my experience is that PAXIL has many more adverse effects versus the marginal benefit of some anxiety relief. I took Paxil for 5 months and was not taking any xanax, and I got some anticapation anxiety relief at the cost of NO LIBIDO, sleeping 12 hours a day, having no motivation, just didn’t give a shit, already gained 10 pounds in 5 months with the carbo craving…..And people want to talk about xanax dependency and problems with withdrawl. I am not trying to minimize people’s experience or their pain, but with anxiety or other mental health issues, the word is YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY(YMMY). I am a college graduate in electrical engineering from a top 5 engineering college, and now have not worked for over two years mostly because of anxiety and some depression yearly. After working for 11 years struggling with depression and anxiety, I now have a hard time stepping outside my home. I have considered suicide 1000’s of times over the last 15 years, actually researched and made the plans and was about to end it, and then I started on the Paxil…….Yeah, my suicidal obsessions went away, but now I was content to veg out all day watching TY or on the Net, my desire to GET A JOB disappeared. Go research web sites and you will see how many people have problems with SSRI’s, yeah they are alive and taking that $3 pill two times a day or many $3 pills for me, but now I am NUMB and just there. Prior to Paxil I use to be a emotional person, felt the pain of others and would cry when touched by something, but now I am a Paxil-zombie, yeah some anxiety relief but a LOT OF ME is also gone. So all those xanax phobics, please allow people to fail with their options without scaring them. What are people’s choices when it comes to anxiety or panic, yes paxil, yes benzo’s, yes MAIO’s, yes CBT(Cognitive Behavior Therapy). My experience is PAXIL SUCKS and THE WITHDRAWAL IS HORRIBLE BASED ON MUCH FEEDBACK I HAVE READ ON THE NET, MAIO’S like parnate have some studies that back them up but the food restrictions are VERY DIFFICULT(no cheese, wine, beer, chocolate, many OTC meds, etc.), CBT might work for some but the feedback I have heard is that CBT plus meds work the best and I HAVE DONE THE THERAPY ROUTE and it was a waste of money. As one doctor told me, people who suffer from PANIC and think they are dieing have never been told that "your not going to die, it is all in your head"…Well that was my last session with him. Just to repeat, this is MY EXPERIENCE and YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. Now I could continue to HIBERNATE IN MY HOUSE, NOT WORK, RUN OUT OF MONEY AND THEN BE HOMELESS…..Or I can be proactive and continue to experiment and try to find some solution that will allow me to work and have a life. I have taken xanax in the past, just started it one month ago, still taking a low dose of paxil, and I am MUCH MUCH BETTER at dealing with day to day life, interacting with people, giving my shit done, etc. Yeah, maybe I will be taking xanax for the rest of my life but the only side effect I have had is some sleepiness. And to those who talk about TOLERANCE BUILDUP, that is a CROCK, yes you might have to increase your xanax from .25mg 3 times a day to .50mg 3 times a day, there are people who have taken xanax for 5 to 15 years and most leveled out after 1 year at a dose and have no desire to increase. People need to do some research and FIND OUT THE REAL TRUTH, not what BIG PHARMA and BIG BUSINESS OWNED MEDIA OUTLETS want us to believe. Not to be cynical, but $3 no generic available paxil is much better for DRUG COMPANIES, then CHEAP GENERIC XANAX which might be more effective with less side-effects. Why are benzo’s so hard to get, cause drug lobbiest have access to CONGRESS and made sure that THE NO-PROFIT SOLUTIONS(IE LIKE BENZO’S) are not readily available. Linda Channell, (740) 548-6874, 88 Ravine Rd, Powell, OH 43065 Let me make THE NEWCOMERS TO MENTAL ILLNESS aware that HYPE ABOUT THE LATEST ANTIDEPRESSANT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WILL BE MADE ON THE DRUG, and the only time you will hear about THE NEGATIVES about that drug will be when it comes off-patent. Now that we have generic prozac, we will hear more about side effects like NO LIBIDO, WEIGHT GAIN, SUICIDE, AND OTHER EFEECTS. Of course, as long as Paxil and Zoloft have no generics, MEDIA HYPE will be still muted, but give it time. Just as all the SSRI’s go generic, we will hear about ALL THE NEGATIVES and out will come the new batch of 8 TO 12 WEEK STUDIED ANTIDEPRESSANTS to start the new profit cycle. People with mental illness are just pawns, half ass useless meds are approved based on 8 week studies, NO REASON FOR A LONG TERM STUDY, we really don’t want to KNOW THE TRUTH, and as soon as the generics start rolling out, OUT COMES THE DIRTY LAUNDRY, not to HELP US, NO, ONLY SO THAT WE GO ON THE LATEST $5 PILL THAT HAS A 80% SUCCESS RATE AND EVEN LESS SIDE EFFECTS. Hell as long as everyone is making money, who cares about THE CRAZIES that take the product, we just need them alive and taking their meds. Now I forget, was I taking about the cigarette industry or drug companies, HELL WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. This of course is just the opinion of a mentally ill patient with 15 years of experience popping pills, all of which have a 70% effective rate, but I guess I am the exception, "ALIVE" AND NOT SUICIDAL, AND NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. White Knight
Inhaled steroids can result in localized infections with Candida albicans in the mouth and pharynx. Have it cultured and treated, then when you use your steriod inhaler rinse your mouth out after each use. Be sure to clean the canister daily. Nicole – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed. Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours. Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed. Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours. Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX
Being the "Queen Of Thrush", it sounds like that is what you have,of course the usual disclaimer (I am not a doctor….) Nystatin swish and swallow is a good start. If you still have it after that ask for Diflucan. There is also a new swish and swallow of AmphotericinB but that is when you have exhausted all other things. I’m sure that I do not have to say, rinse your mouth,blah,blah blah. Some people are just prone to thrush and you learn to deal with it. It’s pretty nasty but, brathing is better, Peace, Tish
I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all. I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now. I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges. Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!
I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all. I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now. I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges. Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!
My wife who has asthma was told that she has to gargle right after using her inhalers to prevent yeast infection in her throat. Hope this helps. Hope you fell better soon.
I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all. I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now. I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges. Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!
Hi Judy: I’m new to the group but I think I have the answer. Nystatin oral suspension. I’ve used it for years. Let me know if it works for you. Puffing away Alan
Help!
Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? Michelle in TX
Yes yes yes!!! this is almost identical to what i had two weeks ago. i was on flovent/serevent and antibiotics (doxycycline…destroyed my intestines. very sad. not doing those again) i got a sharp, painful sore throat, almost as if someone had cut a part of my throat with a knife. my tongue was painfully sore and had desnuded patches (the taste buds were gone) on about half, and white patches on the rest. i didn’t have any cheese particles but that seems to make it almost definite (as that’s the clear sign of a vaginal yeast infection!) i went in to the college health center and said "i’m on antibiotics and a steroid inhaler, i think i have a yeast infection in my mouth". the doctor looked it over, told me i was right, said she probably would have treated me for strep with more antibiotics if i hadn’t figured it out on my own (another reason to be super-informed…). she put me on nystatin liquid, 1 tsp 3 times a day for 5 days. it went away although i’m a bit nervous that it’s not completely gone. (last night i felt the sore thoat again for a bit…and i’ve lost the upper register of my voice…) the liquid was lovely, tasted like minty robitussin, but did the job. good luck! jodi
Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed. Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours. Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
A yeast infection, AFAIK, is either caused by an alergic reaction or the yeast just finds a nice warm ear a good place to set up home. <advert I am the UK and Ireland distributor for a product called Ear Balm which is very good at clearing this up. It’s also available in the US and other countries (see URL below) <advert end If you think it may be a reaction to something that’s changed, check it out. Check with a vet unless you are SURE it’s a yeast infection. Try Ear Balm — Nick Advice & Help with Computers. Housekeeping, Consultancy & Development Your pet can’t clean his ears! http://worldemail.com/wetc/brushtec "VET it first" Vet Virus Protection Software Dealer May you receive the blessings of the goddess every day
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
Are you positive it’s a yeast infection? Has the dog had them in the past and this was confirmed and treated by your vet? If not, go to the vet to be sure this is what she has. I have an old (14) lhasa who has had chronic yeast infections his entire life. About 6 or 7 years ago, on one of my many trips in to see our vet, he suggested using Monostat on him, when his ears got re-infected. Carol Editor Canine Connections Magazine http://www.cheta.net/connect/canine/
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
A yeast infection, AFAIK, is either caused by an alergic reaction or the yeast just finds a nice warm ear a good place to set up home. <advert I am the UK and Ireland distributor for a product called Ear Balm which is very good at clearing this up. It’s also available in the US and other countries (see URL below) <advert end If you think it may be a reaction to something that’s changed, check it out. Check with a vet unless you are SURE it’s a yeast infection. Try Ear Balm — Nick Advice & Help with Computers. Housekeeping, Consultancy & Development Your pet can’t clean his ears! http://worldemail.com/wetc/brushtec "VET it first" Vet Virus Protection Software Dealer May you receive the blessings of the goddess every day
My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks
Are you positive it’s a yeast infection? Has the dog had them in the past and this was confirmed and treated by your vet? If not, go to the vet to be sure this is what she has. I have an old (14) lhasa who has had chronic yeast infections his entire life. About 6 or 7 years ago, on one of my many trips in to see our vet, he suggested using Monostat on him, when his ears got re-infected. Carol Editor Canine Connections Magazine http://www.cheta.net/connect/canine/
I have had a yeast infection on my penis for a few months. I can’t seem to shake it with the usual treatments. Any suggestions? Thanks.
If you’re sexually active, your partner(s) should be treated as well — otherwise you could be getting re-infected with each act of sex. Heck, I suppose it’s even possible that you could get a penile yeast infection from fellatio performed by someone with oral thrush. Best of luck. — Chris — Irony is not the same thing as "irony"; point of view is not the same thing as attitude; I have no confidence at all that these distinctions mean anything anymore. – Jon Carroll
: Have you tried using Tea Tree Oil? Comes in both an oil and gel : form. You can get it at any godd health food store/pharmacy. I thing : the gel like variety would be bes for yor case. I have used it for athelites : foot after every allopathic remidy failed. In days it was gone! Tea Tree : oil good for all types of topical yeast/fungus infections. It’s worth a try. Thanks, Matthew.
DG I have had a yeast infection on my penis for a few months. I can’t DGseem to shake it with the usual treatments. Any suggestions? Thanks. Have you tried using Tea Tree Oil? Comes in both an oil and gel form. You can get it at any godd health food store/pharmacy. I thing the gel like variety would be bes for yor case. I have used it for athelites foot after every allopathic remidy failed. In days it was gone! Tea Tree oil good for all types of topical yeast/fungus infections. matthew —
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am getting realy concerned – having another huge panic attack and Ijust went to
the pdoc yessterday. On Zoloft and Ativan. If I don’t get this worked out soon
I could be in trouble…. MAC Mac, didn’t you say you’re on 25 mg Zoloft? I think this is way too much to start out on – no wonder you’re feeling panicky. Try cutting that pill in quarters and take one of those a day. Then add one quarter per week. Most doctors just don’t seem to realize how sensitive some of us are to meds. That’s why so many people think they don’t work for them. Dot
Hi, Mac, I would assume it is a short-lived side effect of the antidepressant. Don’t fret, just let the feelings pass and try to tell yourself it is just a side effect and will go away in a couple of days… ((((((Mac)))))) smiles, Elise
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Hey Mac, steady on. It WILL pass! Its just a sneaky SOB. Can’t see it, can’t control it, damn it. We all know the feeling! Just a question for you, when do you take which meds? I discovered that I cannot take the atenolol in the AM, I have to take it at night before bedtime. I go to sleep quicker and don’t notice any other side effect. If I take it in the AM I’m crashing –feel faint and dizzy, just like a PA– about 2 hours later. When I take it in the AM my pulse rate is about 60 at 11 AM, when I most need to be percolating at full steam and starting the restaurant workday. I know you said a few weeks ago that the atenolol didn’t affect you anymore, but you might look at it again. Sometimes just an increment of personal control can shift our inner stabilizer to a more neutral position. You can also take the zoloft at night, or now, as you wean on, take half in the AM and half at bedtime. Zoloft is "splittable". I did that for financial reasons in the past, 100 mg Zoloft costs the same as 50 mg, so my rx were written for 100 mg and take 1/2 daily, saved me a bundle of money when I paid out of pocket!!! YMMV yada yada but use what tools you have to accomodate this bump. You’ll be on the other side of the hump soon! HUGS, Mac. Hang ON! Sue
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:I am getting realy concerned – having another huge panic attack and Ijust :went to the pdoc yessterday. On Zoloft and Ativan. If I don’t get this :worked out soon I could be in trouble…. MAC Dear Mac, "Sometimes" antidepressants can "temporarily" increase anxiety while weaning on them. Now…….I`m not saying that zoloft caused your panic, only your doctor could make that determination but he needs to know about this. Call your doctor! Take care. Jackie ~*~As soon as you trust yourself you will know how to live~*~ ~Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe~
I am getting realy concerned – having another huge panic attack and Ijust went to the pdoc yessterday. On Zoloft and Ativan. If I don’t get this worked out soon I could be in trouble…. MAC
MAC you are starting to get really boring. You are a smart guy. You have been told many times how the meds work, that they take time. I’m sorry you don’t have the time, but until the meds level off you are best to take a bedroll and park your butt on your docs doorstep. Or convince one of these ASAP types you are so fond of to come stay with you for a few days. I’m sure any number of them would like an expenses paid trip to Seattle.<g
Please call your doctor Mac! You’ve been having extremely high anxiety because of this job situation. I’m not surprised that you had another PA. Please call and get some assurance from him. Try to breathe slowly in Di
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I am getting realy concerned – having another huge panic attack and Ijust went to the pdoc yessterday. On Zoloft and Ativan. If I don’t get this worked out soon I could be in trouble…. MAC
Yes what Jackie said is true. I tried Prozac a year back without a benzo and quit REAL QUICK. IT made my anxiety terrible. so now I have gone a year without it and am getting ready to start a benzo. I am thinking after being on a benzo for a month or so I might try an AD. Mac just know that it is probably the SSRI causing the extra anxiety and that once you get used to it and have the benzo for a back up you will probably feel better than you have in YEARS! I like the idea of an SSRI long term but not until I get on a benzo and get calmed down. I also have a big move coming up soon. Why I finally decided to get a benzo :) Good Luck! Dustin
I am getting realy concerned – having another huge panic attack and Ijust went to the pdoc yessterday. On Zoloft and Ativan. If I don’t get this worked out soon I could be in trouble…. MAC
I disagree with your response that a hallucinagen did NOT give a PA. Ever since a hullucinaginec triggered my first one, I have had them pretty bad for awhile. I never had one prior, and even though I have not used in over two years I still get them occasionally.
I thought the same thing for years – that a bad trip gave me years of anxiety and panic. At some point, though, I realized I had always been a "weird" kid, had nightmares all the time and a lot of fears. I think an intense drug experience can reconnect you to your primal fears, but it doesn’t change who you are. In fact, I’m more relaxed now than I was _before_ the drug experience, because I’ve faced some of the fears that I had tucked away in the back of my mind. Therapists have always told me that the bad trip didn’t really matter; maybe I’ve finally been brainwashed. But I remember obsessing endlessly for the first 2 years: "Why did I ever take that trip? I’m never going to be the same again!". That obsession fed my panic much more than any actual memory of the experience. I agree that there’s a certain trauma that we can go through as a result of a bad experience, but the mind can heal itself over time. This is why I think that PTSD may be different from panic disorder. I sure would like a real psychiatrist to clear this up for me! I am soooooo relieved that I am not the only person to feel likeme. It seems that no one else has residual effects. Also, I refuse to take Xanax, due to the fact that its addictive. Drugs have made me so paranoid to take anything including tylenol. I wish I could share my experiance with everyone so no one else has to go though it. Whoops, didnt mean to climb up a soap box, just happy to hear ( dismally ) that i am not the only one…
Me too. I didn’t know anything about PD for years; I just assumed that I had damaged my brain and was going to pay for the rest of my life. Thank God for the healing power of the mind. I’m still not sure that it matters whether we have our first PA while on a drug, in an exam, or on a plane – a PA is miserable no matter what triggers it! One more thing – like you, I was once very reluctant to go near ANY drug. I guess you only need to get burned once to stay away from the stove. BUT, looking back, I wish I had looked into meds, as they would have helped a lot (and did in later years). As long as you’re under doctor’s supervision, there’s no reason to fear Xanax or any other _prescription_ drug. YMMV, but I think most here will tell you that meds helped, rather than hurt them. Good luck! John S.
I disagree with your response that a hallucinagen did NOT give a PA. Ever since a hullucinaginec triggered my first one, I have had them pretty bad for awhile. I never had one prior, and even though I have not used in over two years I still get them occasionally. I am soooooo relieved that I am not the only person to feel likeme. It seems that no one else has residual effects. Also, I refuse to take Xanax, due to the fact that its addictive. Drugs have made me so paranoid to take anything including tylenol. I wish I could share my experiance with everyone so no one else has to go though it. Whoops, didnt mean to climb up a soap box, just happy to hear ( dismally ) that i am not – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matthew, It’s not uncommon for a hallucinogenic drug to trigger a first PA. However, this doesn’t mean that the experience GAVE you panic disorder (which you may not even have). It’s important to keep the one-time drug experience in perspective, and not obsess about it. All I can say is, focus on how you’re feeling NOW, and forget about the initial trigger, which is by now inconsequential. Follow some of the great advice on ASAP. I would advise you not to tell the MD about the drug use, because he may not prescribe what you need. Doctors vary widely on this; I had one doctor who wouldn’t prescribe Xanax because I have been sober for 5 years (I quit drinking, so he assumed that I have a tendency toward addiction). BTW, your post describes my foray into panic disorder (in 1982) very well. Don’t let it get you down; you’ll survive this! Cheers, John S.
Matthew, It’s not uncommon for a hallucinogenic drug to trigger a first PA. However, this doesn’t mean that the experience GAVE you panic disorder (which you may not even have). It’s important to keep the one-time drug experience in perspective, and not obsess about it. All I can say is, focus on how you’re feeling NOW, and forget about the initial trigger, which is by now inconsequential. Follow some of the great advice on ASAP. I would advise you not to tell the MD about the drug use, because he may not prescribe what you need. Doctors vary widely on this; I had one doctor who wouldn’t prescribe Xanax because I have been sober for 5 years (I quit drinking, so he assumed that I have a tendency toward addiction). BTW, your post describes my foray into panic disorder (in 1982) very well. Don’t let it get you down; you’ll survive this! Cheers, John S.
Hi, this is my first time posting here so please bare with me. I’ll start off by saying that I have no idea what is going on with me, and I’m looking for info, help, whatever you can give me. I’m 21, male and untill now, pretty outgoing. about three months ago, I smoked some marijuana with a new workmate (something I never do) I had a very bad experience with it (I’m not sure what you’re supposed to feel like when high, but I’m sure this was not what it was supposed to feel like) well, I eventualy came down, about two weeks later, late at night, I’m readying myself for a shower, and BAM, I feel like I did when I was high that day, now I am going to have a hard time explaining what it feels like, but I’ll give it my best shot. I feel like I can’t think, even know I can, concentration is all but gone, I feel real tence, like I can’t calm down, can’t even realy watch TV. I get mild heart palpitations, and sometimes I get this feeling of not being real, my vision is funny, but I can’t explain that, KIND of like double vision, but not realy. and sometimes I get this feeling that washes over me and is gone within say 5 – 10 seconds, like I am realy zoned out. this has been going on ever since. a few weeks ago, it started to get better, and I was starting to enjoy life again, and do the things I once had, then this last monday, I got a migraine, it went away, the folowing night I got another one, and I took some migraine pain reliefe wich got rid of it, well, as the migrain went away, that feeling came back, and it’s been with me again ever since. I went to the doctor shortly after I started feeling like this and he gave me recomendation for blood work, wich I couldn’t afford seeing as I have not been able to work since this started happening. PLEASE don’t judge me for the drug use as it is something I do not do. any onfo or similar experiences would VERY much be apreciated. thank you so much for your time, Matthew.
I was just fine an hour or so ago. But my life is way stressful right now. I’m having chest pains and shortness of breath, thinking irrationally. Well, at least I know I am thinking irrationally! Somebody please TELL ME I’M NOT DYING.
I was just fine an hour or so ago. But my life is way stressful right now. I’m having chest pains and shortness of breath, thinking irrationally. Well, at least I know I am thinking irrationally! Somebody please TELL ME I’M NOT DYING.
Wendy – you are *NOT* dying! Really! What’s happening is that you are having a panic attack. I’d say "that’s all" but no one who has ever suffered one would underplay the vicious terror of these things. Please just hang on in there and, if you’re not, *get some treatment*…. Keep posting, keep reading – please let us try to help you. <hug — Gary Cooper
Somebody please TELL ME I’M NOT DYING.
My dear Wendy, As long as you are able to read this message, you are definitely NOT DYING! Get an ice cream, and go and watch the telly… try not to think about the fact that you are probably in the middle of a major (easier said than done, I know). If you are reading this message 24 hours after posting yours, then you know you got through it! Yours, PaNick!
I don’t think so
I am in another crisis, After 2 1/2 months on Serzone I am realizing its just not working that well. I still get nausea, have a strange feeling in my head with some remaining dizziness and lightheadedness and these constant tension headaches! I have been communicating online with the "Panic Disorder Institute" and getting new information on things like how the PD links with the somatic symptoms and it certainly looks like I have an acid reflux condition from the panic and anxiety that causes my inner ear, sinus and throat problems and my digestive problems. This doc recommends Xanax and Carfate for this. But I’m scared again because I’m not sure about trying another benzo and getting to a high enough dose to do any good. But there are other AD’s. He puts Trofranil way up there as a good panic / anxiety medication. What do you think? Desperate, Melodee
Melodee writes:
<< I am in another crisis, After 2 1/2 months on Serzone I am realizing its just not working that well. I still get nausea, have a strange feeling in my head with some remaining dizziness and lightheadedness and these constant tension headaches! Hi Melodee! I had a very bad reaction to Serzone, including constant headaches…my pdoc told me there is a small percentage of people who will react badly to this particular drug because of a liver enzyme that reacts to it. I don’t know if this is what is happening to you, but my pdoc felt that was the problem with me…at any rate, you shouldn’t be having constant headaches! I think it’s time to get off the Serzone… << I have been communicating online with the "Panic Disorder Institute" and getting new information on things like how the PD links with the somatic symptoms and it certainly looks like I have an acid reflux condition from the panic and anxiety that causes my inner ear, sinus and throat problems and my digestive problems. This doc recommends Xanax and Carfate for this. But I’m scared again because I’m not sure about trying another benzo and getting to a high enough dose to do any good. But there are other AD’s. He puts Trofranil way up there as a good panic / anxiety medication. What do you think? Desperate, Melodee I have read Dr. Shipko’s reserach with great interest, and, although I have not directly communicated with him, I feel that his approach and findings make a LOT of sense…JMO. I DO know that Tofranil is a good med for PD. I also, however, am a huge believer in Xanax…without it, no matter WHAT ad I was on, I had no panic relief. I take 4-5 mgs. of Xanax per day…many people feel that is a "high" dose, but it has worked consistantly for me for about 10 years straight. As you know, everyone’s mileage varies when it comes to dosing, but I believe Xanax is sure worth a try!!! I know trying new meds is scary, but suffering with bad side effects and/or panic is NOT necessary! If I were you, I’d try another med, and give yourself a chance to start feeling better!!!:) Hang in…you are not alone! Best, ~~Char*) "You’re just jealous because the little voices talk to ME!"
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in another crisis, After 2 1/2 months on Serzone I am realizing its just not working that well. I still get nausea, have a strange feeling in my head with some remaining dizziness and lightheadedness and these constant tension headaches! I have been communicating online with the "Panic Disorder Institute" and getting new information on things like how the PD links with the somatic symptoms and it certainly looks like I have an acid reflux condition from the panic and anxiety that causes my inner ear, sinus and throat problems and my digestive problems. This doc recommends Xanax and Carfate for this. But I’m scared again because I’m not sure about trying another benzo and getting to a high enough dose to do any good. But there are other AD’s. He puts Trofranil way up there as a good panic / anxiety medication. What do you think? Desperate, Melodee
I had terrible results with Serzone too. Tofranil is known to be a good panic/anxiety med. Personally after years of different medication trials I take Nortriptyline, which is in the same class as Tofranil, with xanax (and a very small amount of Prozac) and it is the best combination I have ever been on and I will happily stay on it for the rest of my life is needs be. I have to say though..the xanax has saved my life and made me a free and healthy person finally..I know there are a lot of scary stories about addiction and blah blah out there but for a lot of us with this type of disorder it is a very very good medication. I also follow the PDI BBS and read what Dr. Shipko writes and I have a great deal of respect for his opinions and advice. I would give the Tofranil a try, with xanax in lower doses if you are afraid to go the higher dosage route with Xanax alone. Best of luck to you and please post how it goes! May — "Every time I feel the urge to exercise, I lie down until it goes away." – Mark Twain
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in another crisis, After 2 1/2 months on Serzone I am realizing its just not working that well. I still get nausea, have a strange feeling in my head with some remaining dizziness and lightheadedness and these constant tension headaches! I have been communicating online with the "Panic Disorder Institute" and getting new information on things like how the PD links with the somatic symptoms and it certainly looks like I have an acid reflux condition from the panic and anxiety that causes my inner ear, sinus and throat problems and my digestive problems. This doc recommends Xanax and Carfate for this. But I’m scared again because I’m not sure about trying another benzo and getting to a high enough dose to do any good. But there are other AD’s. He puts Trofranil way up there as a good panic / anxiety medication. What do you think? Desperate, Melodee
Dear Melodee, I think you should certainly get off the serzone and try another medication. Medications don’t work the same for everyone, but Tofranil is an older and *well* tested medication that does work very well with PD for many people – myself included. My life turned around when I combined Tofranil and Xanax together. Until then I had tried numerous meds and lived a life of hell. I slowly increased both dosages (with the help of my understanding physician) and now I have been at 150 mg Tofranil at bedtime with 4 mg Xanax per day for about 2 years straight. This combo has worked well for others also. You may want to give it a try. Hope you find relief soon and start feeling better. You’re definitely not in this alone John L.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am in another crisis, After 2 1/2 months on Serzone I am realizing its just not working that well. I still get nausea, have a strange feeling in my head with some remaining dizziness and lightheadedness and these constant tension headaches! I have been communicating online with the "Panic Disorder Institute" and getting new information on things like how the PD links with the somatic symptoms and it certainly looks like I have an acid reflux condition from the panic and anxiety that causes my inner ear, sinus and throat problems and my digestive problems. This doc recommends Xanax and Carfate for this. But I’m scared again because I’m not sure about trying another benzo and getting to a high enough dose to do any good. But there are other AD’s. He puts Trofranil way up there as a good panic / anxiety medication. What do you think? Desperate, Melodee
Although a certain amount of scepticism may be a good thing, I think you can safely regard Dr. S. at the PDI as a very trustworthy source of information. Often GERD and IBS are part of or at least comorbid with PD. I understand Shipko advised you to take Xanax and Carafate which seems to be a very good combo for this. As a matter of fact they are the meds he himself is on, being a sufferer too. Why are you scared about trying another benzo? It sounds like you had a bad experience with one? It’s an easy med to try. AD’s, on the other hand, have to weaned on slowly to avoid initial side effects and worsening of symptoms. As a matter of fact benzos are often used to help wean on an AD. Tofranil (imipramine) is a TCA (tricyclic antidepressant) which is an oldie but goodie. It’s stil often used for PD. It should be started at 10 mgs and then slowly raised up to therapeutic dose (which can be anywhere between 75-200 mgs and this can be verified by blood work). There is a third way and that’s combining Tofranil & Xanax (and Carafate can be added, this is more for IBS than for the actual Panic Attacks). Actually this is the combo I am on (Tofranil 150 mgs & Xanax 2.5 mgs). It works for me but YMMV. Philip
I have to agree with the rest of the group. Tofrinil (imiprimine) and Xanax are an effective combo… I used both with 10mg. of Paxil. It’s my understading that the SSRI (Paxil) increases the serum level of imiprimine so you don’t have to take as much. Warning: the side effects from imiprimine can be wretched at first….NO saliva, constipation, daytime somnelence, etc… However, as with John L… the combo changed my life too. I was on it for 4 years then DC’d and remained PA-free for 2 years. I’m currently on Zoloft…not as effective as the imiprimine, but I couldn’t handle the side effects anymore. -VJ (another newbie to the group)
Excuse me… Please stop sending html to a newsgroup, please stop yelling and please stop pushing pot use in this group. You may as well push coffee and other caffine drinks.
I am on antdepressants and on Xanax, and still I am in a panic. my dad…who was half owner in my home, and only signed it over to me in July, is now after a stroke and all sorts of complications in need of nursing home care. I have been told, that the fact that he renounced claim in our home is immaterial and that before medecaid will pay for any help, they will take his half of the house…..and I the mortgage is already at my max of capacity. I am divorced and my two sons, 23 and 17 live with me….Mom and dad lived in the apartment downstairs….mom died two years ago. neither has any money, dad makes 1300 a month between his pension and social seucurity. I don’t want to lose my home of these past 10 years, but don’t know what to do…I am in NY and NY is not much in the way of caring I am told….. HELP!!!!!!! Please…..I have been through 5 years of hell with the divorce, mom dying, my sons accident and now this…I can’t take any more please respond in email if you help I am in Orange County NY
I am on antdepressants and on Xanax, and still I am in a panic. my dad…who was half owner in my home, and only signed it over to me in July, is now after a stroke and all sorts of complications in need of nursing home care. I have been told, that the fact that he renounced claim in our home is immaterial and that before medecaid will pay for any help, they will take his half of the house…..and I the mortgage is already at my max of capacity. I am divorced and my two sons, 23 and 17 live with me….Mom and dad lived in the apartment downstairs….mom died two years ago. neither has any money, dad makes 1300 a month between his pension and social seucurity. I don’t want to lose my home of these past 10 years, but don’t know what to do…I am in NY and NY is not much in the way of caring I am told….. HELP!!!!!!! Please…..I have been through 5 years of hell with the divorce, mom dying, my sons accident and now this…I can’t take any more
Hi, Ok.Try to relax a second.It is a really rough time.One of thoses definig lifes moment. I would confer with a GOOD lawyer.This can be worked out,Gov Pataki did the exact same thing with his mother having her sign property over to him.Somebody in social sevices might also be able to help.You must put up a good fight or they’ll beat you for sure.They’re are caring folks out there.My wifes bes friend is a person who has some pull with social services.What part of NY are you in?We also live in NY.EMail me back your info.In times like these your medication is working hard to keep you stablized.Do not panic.You have to convince yourself that there is a way to work this out.Nobody wants to put anybody on the street.See a lawyer ASAP Peace JMiles
yes, i too have to focus on something else..TV doesn’t work because you still focus on what you are feeling, and reading a magazine is too hard when my head is jumbly….actually that is why i love the computer now…before i didn’t use it much , but whenever i have an attack i get online….but not to look up panic stuff, because you want to get it out of your time….catch up on your email or surf some new sites…something not too hard but it helps me….i tried to do the positive thinking thing, but you are still focused on yourself, you have to find some distraction…..try the computer, works wonders for me (along with popping a xanex of course!) jana
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Janet, I have also found that when I am very focused on myself my anxiety attacks get worse. I usually do some breathing exercises if I think of it. But when you are in the moment it’s hard to focus on anything productive, I’ll be the first to admit this. Stay strong and I hope your doctor appointment goes well. Raquel I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas? Hi Janet, when i used to get bad general anxiety attacks at home i tried to keep as busy as i could. Even if i really did’nt feel like it i’d find some painting or gardening to do. Anything so long as i was’nt just sitting there focusing on myself all the time. There were times when i thought i was dying so i know how frightened you feel at the moment but if they found nothing wrong when you had the tests three weeks ago then try to trust that and focus on something outside of yourself. Easy for me to say i know but i felt the same as you this time two years ago. Sorry you feel so bad at the moment, best wishes. Ken.
It sounds like the doctor doesn’t think the arythmias are dangerous. Maybe he just wants to control them because they interfere with your panic control? Anyhow, something I find useful in my self-talk is to ask myself, "will thinking about this right now help?" the answer is usually no. someone posted here that all prroblems can be divided into two groups, those that can be solved by worrying about them, and those that can’t. Right now the arrythmia is in the second category. You have made plans for the next thing to do about them, which is to see the doctor next week. Until then, when you can get more information about what is going on, there is nothing else to do. so try to keep shoving those worries into the second category, and keep them from giving you more trouble. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas?
Janet, I have also found that when I am very focused on myself my anxiety attacks get worse. I usually do some breathing exercises if I think of it. But when you are in the moment it’s hard to focus on anything productive, I’ll be the first to admit this. Stay strong and I hope your doctor appointment goes well. Raquel
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas? Hi Janet, when i used to get bad general anxiety attacks at home i tried to keep as busy as i could. Even if i really did’nt feel like it i’d find some painting or gardening to do. Anything so long as i was’nt just sitting there focusing on myself all the time. There were times when i thought i was dying so i know how frightened you feel at the moment but if they found nothing wrong when you had the tests three weeks ago then try to trust that and focus on something outside of yourself. Easy for me to say i know but i felt the same as you this time two years ago. Sorry you feel so bad at the moment, best wishes. Ken.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas?
Hi Janet, when i used to get bad general anxiety attacks at home i tried to keep as busy as i could. Even if i really did’nt feel like it i’d find some painting or gardening to do. Anything so long as i was’nt just sitting there focusing on myself all the time. There were times when i thought i was dying so i know how frightened you feel at the moment but if they found nothing wrong when you had the tests three weeks ago then try to trust that and focus on something outside of yourself. Easy for me to say i know but i felt the same as you this time two years ago. Sorry you feel so bad at the moment, best wishes. Ken.
Janet: A few years back when we had an extremely tragic and stressful situation with one of our kids, I was having the same symptoms as you. My doctor put me on a portable EKG thing for 24 hours and it showed irregular heartbeats. It felt to me as if a large bird was fluttering madly in my chest, trying to break free! — or a fish flopping for its life. This sensation took my breath away and was pretty frightening, especially all night as I tried to sleep. Unlike your doc, however, my family doctor diagnosed stress and anxiety, and immediately put me on Xanax to calm me down. It worked like a charm. The second day after beginning the med, I simply stopped having the palpitations. (I’d had them for about 3-4 months, getting worse all the time.) Do talk to your doctor about the possibility of some anti-anxiety medication to break this anxiety cycle. Good luck, and let us know what happens. Best, Anne —
Whoops! janet, I just re-read your posting and see that you *do* take Xanax. Perhaps you need an increased dosage; talk to your doctor, and if he’s not helpful, seek out a psychiatrist. Sorry I was asleep when I replied! – Anne —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas?
I’ve been through the positive thinking route and found it’s effectiveness to be very limited. (when one is feeling well it really works!) I’d see a psychiatrist and get on the proper meds to control your anxiety. You sound like you need a higher dose of Xanax and/or another med. If the cardiologist told you to come back in one week, he couldn’t have been too concerned about a serious arrythmia. If he was, you would now be in the hospital being treated for it. Hope this helps, Chip Before you buy.
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big word little consequence unless you have underlying pathology like elctrical conduction problems or clogged arteries-from a medical standpoint what you are experiencing is tantemount to a hiccup or burp- they are uncomfortable only if you define them as awful or life threatening-the stimulating hormones your body is secreting at such high levels all the time are expressed evrywhere like in faster peristalsis of your gut or flutters of your heart these are benign symptoms of anxiety even if your anxiety attacks are controlled you understand you have a proclivity to experience stress and worry so you still are and are expressing it physiologicaly instead of emotively-meds can ease the cardiac contractions or mellow out the conduction time if needed so don’t freak out you aren’t going to die or go crazy. The very worse that will happen if these burps are bad enough is you will pass out and this is the very worse is rare if you are youngish and is still controlable with meds. re read and listen to her stopping scary thoughts tapes and don’t do the what ifs or imagine yourself having a cardiac arrest-once under the care of a cardiac doc you will be fine. LM
I just found this newsgroup and I hope someone out there has experienced what I am now going through and can help me. I’ve been living with panic disorder (on and off symptoms) for almost 20 years. My greatest breakthrough was 2 years ago when I finally found the Midwest Center and went through their 15 week program. It helped tremendously. However, I’m experiencing a set back and am having trouble coping. To make it short, I had learned to calm myself down with positive self-talk (i.e., it’s only my anxiety, I’m not going to die, I’m not going to go crazy, it will pass, etc.). 3 weeks ago, I experienced some very unusual, fluttery feelings in my chest, racing heartbeat, etc. and went to the emergency room. By the time I got there, the feelings had stopped and they didn’t find anything wrong but suggested that I follow-up with a cardiologist. I did and had an exercise stress test. The test revealed that I’m having arrythmias. My doctor wants me to wait 2 weeks before trying medication and if I’m lucky they’ll just stop. Welll, 2 weeks are up and I’m still having them everyday. My anxiety and panic disorder is now full blown. I’m listening to my tapes, taking xanax, and trying not to freak out. But, it’s hard to believe my positive self-talk when, in fact, there really could be something wrong with my heart. Before, I would assure myself that there wasn’t anything physically wrong with me. How can I do that now? Has anyone experienced a similar circumstance? What did you do to help yourself. My next doctors appointment isn’t until next week and I feel like that’s an enternity. I also have a job interview today which I might have to cancel. Can you imagine me sitting there, checking my pulse, holding my breath, spaced out and disoriented at a job interview????? Some impression I’ll make, huh? Please, please anybody….any enouraging words or helpful ideas?
Margrove, Thanks for your reply to my post. You may recall that I talked about Seroquel and Zyprexa and you mentioned that Seroquel was more dose dependent. Could you explain what is meant by that. I was on 5mg Zyprexa and now 100mg Seroquel. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’m desperate! In order for my career to go ahead I need to take a whole program of study in the next year and that amounts to a very heavy load each quarter. I haven’t been well, so I don’t know how I can do this. I just turned 50 last year and about three years ago came down with panic/anxiety disorder. I take medications, but none of them work that well. I did OK for awhile on Zyprexa. But now I’m on Seoquel because of the weight problem with Zyprexa. But I’m not sure if the Seroquel is going to work as good. My pdoc also just put me on Depakote about two months ago. It never felt quite right so I’m coming off of it. I don’t feel so good. Could there be some withdrawl symptoms from the Depakote? I was on 1000mg and then went down to 750 for about a week and now I’ve just reduced it to 500mg yesterday. Please help! Dee
Hi Dee! Wish I could help you with the meds, but I don’t know anything about them. Just wanted to give you a hug. You sound like you need one. {{{{{{{Dee}}}}}}} Di
Hi, I’m desperate! In order for my career to go ahead I need to take a whole program of study in the next year and that amounts to a very heavy load each quarter. I haven’t been well, so I don’t know how I can do this. I just turned 50 last year and about three years ago came down with panic/anxiety disorder. I take medications, but none of them work that well. I did OK for awhile on Zyprexa. But now I’m on Seoquel because of the weight problem with Zyprexa. But I’m not sure if the Seroquel is going to work as good. My pdoc also just put me on Depakote about two months ago. It never felt quite right so I’m coming off of it. I don’t feel so good. Could there be some withdrawl symptoms from the Depakote? I was on 1000mg and then went down to 750 for about a week and now I’ve just reduced it to 500mg yesterday. Please help! Dee Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’m desperate! In order for my career to go ahead I need to take a whole program of study in the next year and that amounts to a very heavy load each quarter. I haven’t been well, so I don’t know how I can do this. I just turned 50 last year and about three years ago came down with panic/anxiety disorder. I take medications, but none of them work that well. I did OK for awhile on Zyprexa. But now I’m on Seoquel because of the weight problem with Zyprexa. But I’m not sure if the Seroquel is going to work as good. My pdoc also just put me on Depakote about two months ago. It never felt quite right so I’m coming off of it. I don’t feel so good. Could there be some withdrawl symptoms from the Depakote? I was on 1000mg and then went down to 750 for about a week and now I’ve just reduced it to 500mg yesterday. Please help! Dee Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
there is a slight rebound activity that occurs with tapers off depakote-like all psychoactive meds it requires a slow taper-your brain will readjust withina short time to its lack of presence-seroquel works differently then zyprexa and is much more dose dependant both being very respectable meds you may find your responses different as with all medicaments and individual chemistries-as for your course load-push the envelope and as the great zen of nike said-just do it. the worse that will happen is you may succeed. If not so what. LM
Thanks for all your support. Raquel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel Before you buy.
I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel
Dear Raquel, As much as you don`t feel like it right now, there is much left to live for. You have a wonderful husband, and you also have Somer, I know how precious he is to you. I know moving is a stress right now, but think of how it may help improve your health in the long run? Has your depression worsened lately? I can`t recall the meds you are on for your asthma, if you are on prednisone, it could be exacerbating your depression. You might want to call your doctor about that. Please hang in there, it will get better. Love Jackie ~*~The great art of life is sensation, to feel that we exist, even in
Dear Raquel, I’m so sorry you are feeling down right now. You have a lot going on at once and it does feel overwhelming. Try to tackle one thing at a time. And then find ways to be kind to yourself and to tell yourself that you are going to get through it. Find ways to have little successes, then you can build on them. I hope you feel better soon. Don’t give up. I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel Before you buy.
– Jeannie "On the other hand….you have different fingers." Before you buy.
I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel
Maybe it would be a good idea to break down this accumulation of problems into more manageable parts. – How is your asthma coming along? Do the new meds work? -Maybe you would like to tell us some more about your anxiety problems etc. and how they are treated… I think you should look for a good CBT-therapist. -And what’s with the appartment? How is Brian? He is always so supportive….are you two OK? Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Before you buy.
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Look for Something just anything that grounds you in the present. (((((((Raquel)))))) Sue
Hi Raquel Just hang in there and go with its flow and try to keep your chin high up. Be extra good for yourself . This bumpy road will stop and things will pick up, its all a matter of time! Keep posting and let us be with you in your hart! Love Jeannette
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I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel Before you buy.
Sweetie…. You have plenty to live for… Maybe this move will be one that energizes you. The other issues are hard to rid yourself of, but you know what? There is NO REASON you can’t enjoy life anyhow. MSN is a joke…I tell you what…we signed up for a free month, when we called to cancel (all 6 times) they gave us another free month. Tell them you have a beef and they usually suck up. Find another internet company. We are using prodigy and it was simple as could be. Also I know Juno offers free web service or their ‘premium’ service for only like 10 bucks a month. Not to worry about the news servers….go to deja (as much as I HATE deja) or newsone.com…that is where I posted when my email server wouldn’t work right. Just breathe sweetie…it will all get better. As for your asthma, what meds are you on? I had a lot of trouble with mine until I tried Singulair and it has made a world of difference. They put me on Azmacort (a steroid inhaler) and I never even use it now. I did right after my accident, but then when I stopped I noticed the singulair was going so good I didn’t really need to go back. During the move, take care of yourself. Take long baths after packing, light some candles that smell like your favorite flower and don’t forget to pamper yourself. It does wonders I promise I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel Before you buy.
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I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel you have alot to live for. Are you ok? You have god and your husband.
Be positive. donny Confess your sins. Turn from your sins. Believe in your heart. Ask Jesus to save you.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not doing to good right about now. Between having to move because of problems with my apartment, anxiety, depression, asthma, fibromyalgia and Hellish problems with MSN, who is charging me Double and doesn’t support any news servers for me, I am about to go insane. Not much left to live for. Raquel you have alot to live for. Are you ok? You have god and your husband. Be positive. donny Confess your sins. Turn from your sins. Believe in your heart. Ask Jesus to save you. hI RAQUEL, you can download juno at juno.com and acess the newsgroups with
deja.com. You have alot to live for. Think of the people that would be affected if you werent around. will PRAY FOR YOU. donny Confess your sins. Turn from your sins. Believe in your heart. Ask Jesus to save you.
Raquel, Life is worth living… You are just experiencing a lot of problems at one time. Try to deal witheach one individually ad it does take some of the stress off your shoulders. smiles, elise
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I have only had these "pre-panic" feelings in the last couple of weeks. They are those heart- skipping- can’t- breathe feelings that only last 3-10 seconds. The only thing I worry about is that is how my full blown attacks started years ago. I think I need to go back to my therapist as a first step. THANKS!!
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
I am now on 150 mg of Effexor, but it is only temporary. I have been on 75 mg since a couple of years ago, and there is no side effect which gives me problems. I am also on Risperdal, and recently my pdoc changed it for Zyprexa and I noted an increase of my sexual libido, so I am not sure if Effexor is lowering my libido. What I can say is that when I was married I didn’t find I needed more sexual drive than I actually had. If you find any annoying side effects from Effexor, most surely they’ll disappear in something like a week. — Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Eat the sandwich to email http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
Hi Keith. I deal with a difficult to treat depression and after trying several ADs I tried Prozac and found it helped me quite a bit for nearly two years. At least until I got hit with the infamous "Prozac poop-out". Maybe that is what hit you as well? Anyway, when it stopped working and sent me into one of the worst depressions I can remember my pdoc put me on Effexor XR. After building up to 150mg over a couple of weeks I actually started feeling better. I continued to improve and was beginning to think this may be a miracle med for me. It helped my depression much like Prozac had at first but seemed to somehow be ’smoother’ in the way it pulled me out of depression without some of the side effects I sometimes had on Prozac. That is until I started feeling not so good physically but I wasn’t sure what was wrong. I eventually had my blood pressure checked and found that it was way too high. (like 180/205) I ended up back at the pdocs and also seeing my regular medical doctor. I had read that Effexor could raise blood pressure in some people. Guess I’m one of the lucky ones. To be fair I had previously had some minor blood pressure problems that had been treated and corrected. I also have a family history of blood pressure/heart problems. I had told my pdoc about this but he said the chances of this causing me such problems were slim. I am not trying to scare you about Effexor because I think it is a great med and I wish I could stay with it. But I did want to let you know to at least be aware of this possibility and if you are not sure have your blood pressure checked once in awhile. As far as treating depression goes, this helped me a lot with very few other side effects. Good luck and I hope it helps you as much as it helped me only without the blood pressure problem! Bonnie
I have been taking Serzone for at least 3 months. Before that i took Zoloft very briefly. I had a lot of side effects on Zoloft. Started out on 50mg of Serzone now at 300mg. I havnt noticed any strong reaction one way or another. No real bad side effects and no real help for sp. No weight gain. I think I have been feeling alittle less anxious- like I dont care as much what people think. I do feel alittle tired during the day tho but I cant say for sure its because of that. My therapist recommends I go a higher dose -she thinks I will feel more of an affect then. We shall see. Renee
From: zkwyed1 zkwyed1NOzkS…@yahoo.co I’ve been taking Serzone for about two months now. Before that I had taken Wellbutrin for about two months. On the Wellbutrin I was having a lot of trouble sleeping and problems with trembling and feeling on edge, not to mention it didn’t help with anxiety much. So I switched to Serzone which helps sleeping a lot, in fact one of the problems I had the first couple of weeks was that I could hardly wake up. I could shut of my alarm after eight hours of sleep and still sleep for hours after that… my bed would just call to me with some sort of siren song thing…
LOL. I know that feeling. I’ve been taking it 2 weeks now and I still have a hard time waking up. I’m hoping that will pass. Today (Saturday) I slept till 10:00 am ! I haven’t done that in a long time. I am feeling very sluggish tho. and I’m really hoping that will go away.
That was the only problem I had with weight gain, I felt like a giant slug and didn’t want to move much. It has gotten a lot better in that regard. In fact, I would say that if you’re someone with anxiety, Serzone doesn’t add the tense jittery feeling that Wellbutrin seemed to for me. That is definitely only my opinion.
I don’t feel the least bit jittery on this med : ) I didn’t understand about the weight gain, did you gain weight on this med?? I’m asking because my doc told me I would gain weight on this one. (that’s what they all say, huh)
On another note, I have been lurking about eight months here, and I appreciate being able to read what everyone posts here. Every single one of you is important to those of us who reads these posts but hasn’t gotten to the point of interacting here. Thanks to all of you and good luck to everyone. The quiet one.
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From: g…@execpc.com (Doug) Pam, I took 100 to 150 mg of Serzone along with 40 mg of Paxil per day for almost two years. I used the Serzone to try to help me sleep, which it did, but because it was mixed with the Paxil, I can’t isolate what it did for me besides helping me to sleep better.
Doug, I see….well although it’s been way to soon, that is about all I’m seeing from it too. But it’s still ealry Pam
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Well, I m making the switch from Celexa to Serzone, I can’t go back on Remeron cuz of the weight gain thing, and Celexa is giving me insomnia or something, so I’m going to take Serzone untill I loose some weight . (great motivation!) P-Doc says it works like Remeron but doesn’t increase the appetite like Remeron, So if any one has any experience with it *please* post it. I’m counting on you lurkers too : ) thanks Pam
I’ve been taking Serzone for about two months now. Before that I had taken Wellbutrin for about two months. On the Wellbutrin I was having a lot of trouble sleeping and problems with trembling and feeling on edge, not to mention it didn’t help with anxiety much. So I switched to Serzone which helps sleeping a lot, in fact one of the problems I had the first couple of weeks was that I could hardly wake up. I could shut of my alarm after eight hours of sleep and still sleep for hours after that… my bed would just call to me with some sort of siren song thing… That was the only problem I had with weight gain, I felt like a giant slug and didn’t want to move much. It has gotten a lot better in that regard. In fact, I would say that if you’re someone with anxiety, Serzone doesn’t add the tense jittery feeling that Wellbutrin seemed to for me. That is definitely only my opinion. On another note, I have been lurking about eight months here, and I appreciate being able to read what everyone posts here. Every single one of you is important to those of us who reads these posts but hasn’t gotten to the point of interacting here. Thanks to all of you and good luck to everyone. The quiet one. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Well, I m making the switch from Celexa to Serzone, I can’t go back on Remeron cuz of the weight gain thing, and Celexa is giving me insomnia or something, so I’m going to take Serzone untill I loose some weight . (great motivation!) P-Doc says it works like Remeron but doesn’t increase the appetite like Remeron, So if any one has any experience with it *please* post it. I’m counting on you lurkers too : ) thanks Pam
Back in my NIMH days, I was put on Serzone for a while. I can’t say that it did much of anything, for good or for ill. Craig
Well, I m making the switch from Celexa to Serzone, I can’t go back on Remeron cuz of the weight gain thing, and Celexa is giving me insomnia or something, so I’m going to take Serzone untill I loose some weight . (great motivation!) P-Doc says it works like Remeron but doesn’t increase the appetite like Remeron, So if any one has any experience with it *please* post it. I’m counting on you lurkers too : ) thanks Pam
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Well, I m making the switch from Celexa to Serzone, I can’t go back on Remeron cuz of the weight gain thing, and Celexa is giving me insomnia or something, so I’m going to take Serzone untill I loose some weight . (great motivation!) P-Doc says it works like Remeron but doesn’t increase the appetite like Remeron, So if any one has any experience with it *please* post it. I’m counting on you lurkers too : ) thanks Pam
Pam, I took 100 to 150 mg of Serzone along with 40 mg of Paxil per day for almost two years. I used the Serzone to try to help me sleep, which it did, but because it was mixed with the Paxil, I can’t isolate what it did for me besides helping me to sleep better.
I too went from Remeron to Serzone but for different reasons. The first couple of months on Serzone I couldn’t stand the sight of food. That’s the good part. The bad part was that it made me very nervous and irritable. I stuck it out and by month 3 I was feeling pretty good and the sp was tolerable. Unfortunatly I also got my appetite back (w/o weight gain) Sad to say I developed a serious side effect after 6 months and had to quit taking it. So it’s back to hit and miss with the meds again. I hope you have good luck with it. Gina * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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i’m on the chair . On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:44:39 GMT, "ConnieKat" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net
wrote: That happens when they find out I’m a cheap date! You what??? (What are you on today? I think I want some.) — Connie=^..^= : i love you : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:24:08 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : True, true! : And I have no brain to mouth filter. : You’d have fun with that ! : : And I could go on for a month, on a $5 supply of liquor. : : — : Connie=^..^= : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : news:3ce1c589.17686053@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : i like a babbler , : : check out my track record around here . : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:15:50 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : Heck, : : Half a beer, and I’m drunk. : : Can’t stop talking after that. If you want me to stop talking, get me a : : shot, and I’ll pass out. : : Sheesh, I’m a cheap date! : : : : — : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : you couldn’t handle most of what i’m on , : : : but my anti depressant might be ok for you , : : : if you break it in half . : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:06:22 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : I think mine is not from Serzone. : : : Bummer, does that mean we can’t share drugs? : : : : : : : : : — : : : Connie=^..^= : : : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : : : news:3ce1c123.16560159@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : : : : : well it did that to me , : : : : but i’m not speaking for everyone : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 01:26:25 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : Is that what’s causing it? : : : : I thought I just wasn’t eating the right stuff. : : : : : : : : — : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : i tried it , but didn’t like , : : : : : running to the toilet every 10 minutes : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 00:36:44 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : : : I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost no : : : : : Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I : take : : it : : : : before : : : : : I go to sleep. : : : : : I like being on it. : : : : : : : : : : — : : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic : : : : : : insomnia. : : : : : : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side : : : effects : : : : : : you might have experienced. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
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True, true! And I have no brain to mouth filter. You’d have fun with that ! And I could go on for a month, on a $5 supply of liquor. — Connie=^..^= "%" <f…@pris.ca
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wrote: mee too! — Connie=^..^= : : : i love you : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:24:08 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : : True, true! : : And I have no brain to mouth filter. : : You’d have fun with that ! : : : : And I could go on for a month, on a $5 supply of liquor. : : : : — : : Connie=^..^= : : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : : news:3ce1c589.17686053@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : : : i like a babbler , : : : check out my track record around here . : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:15:50 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : Heck, : : : Half a beer, and I’m drunk. : : : Can’t stop talking after that. If you want me to stop talking, get me : a : : : shot, and I’ll pass out. : : : Sheesh, I’m a cheap date! : : : : : : — : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : : you couldn’t handle most of what i’m on , : : : : but my anti depressant might be ok for you , : : : : if you break it in half . : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:06:22 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : I think mine is not from Serzone. : : : : Bummer, does that mean we can’t share drugs? : : : : : : : : : : : : — : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : : : : news:3ce1c123.16560159@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : : : : : : : well it did that to me , : : : : : but i’m not speaking for everyone : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 01:26:25 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : : : Is that what’s causing it? : : : : : I thought I just wasn’t eating the right stuff. : : : : : : : : : : — : : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : i tried it , but didn’t like , : : : : : : running to the toilet every 10 minutes : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 00:36:44 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : : : : : I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost : no : : : : : : Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I : : take : : : it : : : : : before : : : : : : I go to sleep. : : : : : : I like being on it. : : : : : : : : : : : : — : : : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for : chronic : : : : : : : insomnia. : : : : : : : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and : side : : : : effects : : : : : : : you might have experienced. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
i like a babbler , check out my track record around here . On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:15:50 GMT, "ConnieKat" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net
wrote: Heck, Half a beer, and I’m drunk. Can’t stop talking after that. If you want me to stop talking, get me a shot, and I’ll pass out. Sheesh, I’m a cheap date! — Connie=^..^= : : you couldn’t handle most of what i’m on , : but my anti depressant might be ok for you , : if you break it in half . : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:06:22 GMT, "ConnieKat" : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : I think mine is not from Serzone. : Bummer, does that mean we can’t share drugs? : : : — : Connie=^..^= : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : news:3ce1c123.16560159@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : well it did that to me , : : but i’m not speaking for everyone : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 01:26:25 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : Is that what’s causing it? : : I thought I just wasn’t eating the right stuff. : : : : — : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : i tried it , but didn’t like , : : : running to the toilet every 10 minutes : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 00:36:44 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost no : : : Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I take it : : before : : : I go to sleep. : : : I like being on it. : : : : : : — : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic : : : : insomnia. : : : : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side : effects : : : : you might have experienced. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
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wrote: True, true! And I have no brain to mouth filter. You’d have fun with that ! And I could go on for a month, on a $5 supply of liquor. — Connie=^..^= "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message news:3ce1c589.17686053@news.cis.dfn.de… : : i like a babbler , : check out my track record around here . : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:15:50 GMT, "ConnieKat" : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : Heck, : Half a beer, and I’m drunk. : Can’t stop talking after that. If you want me to stop talking, get me a : shot, and I’ll pass out. : Sheesh, I’m a cheap date! : : — : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : you couldn’t handle most of what i’m on , : : but my anti depressant might be ok for you , : : if you break it in half . : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:06:22 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : I think mine is not from Serzone. : : Bummer, does that mean we can’t share drugs? : : : : : : — : : Connie=^..^= : : "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message : : news:3ce1c123.16560159@news.cis.dfn.de… : : : : : : well it did that to me , : : : but i’m not speaking for everyone : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 01:26:25 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : Is that what’s causing it? : : : I thought I just wasn’t eating the right stuff. : : : : : : — : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : i tried it , but didn’t like , : : : : running to the toilet every 10 minutes : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 00:36:44 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : : : : : I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost no : : : : Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I take : it : : : before : : : : I go to sleep. : : : : I like being on it. : : : : : : : : — : : : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : : : : : : : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic : : : : : insomnia. : : : : : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side : : effects : : : : : you might have experienced. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic insomnia. Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side effects you might have experienced.
I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost no Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I take it before I go to sleep. I like being on it. — Connie=^..^= : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic : insomnia. : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side effects : you might have experienced. :
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wrote: I think mine is not from Serzone. Bummer, does that mean we can’t share drugs? — Connie=^..^= "%" <f…@pris.ca wrote in message news:3ce1c123.16560159@news.cis.dfn.de… : : well it did that to me , : but i’m not speaking for everyone : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 01:26:25 GMT, "ConnieKat" : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : Is that what’s causing it? : I thought I just wasn’t eating the right stuff. : : — : Connie=^..^= : : : : i tried it , but didn’t like , : : running to the toilet every 10 minutes : : : : : : : : : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 00:36:44 GMT, "ConnieKat" : : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net wrote: : : : : I’ve been on it for 2-3 years now. works good for me, almost no : : Side-effects. Little nausea 1-3 hours after I take it, but I take it : before : : I go to sleep. : : I like being on it. : : : : — : : Connie=^..^= : : : : : : : Has anyone taken Serzone? It was prescribed to me for chronic : : : insomnia. : : : Would appreciate knowing if it has worked for anyone, and side effects : : : you might have experienced. : : : : : : : : : : : :
Heck, Half a beer, and I’m drunk. Can’t stop talking after that. If you want me to stop talking, get me a shot, and I’ll pass out. Sheesh, I’m a cheap date! — Connie=^..^= : : you couldn’t handle most of what i’m on , : but my anti depressant might be ok for you , : if you break it in half . : : : : On Wed, 15 May 2002 02:06:22 GMT, "ConnieKat" : <cbdsgn2=^….@pacbell.net
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I didn’t respond to Zoloft or Luvox. I’m waiting to see if Prozac helps. I hope. James
Wellbutrin doesn’t do anything for OCD. If it did, I would be on it now. Wellbutrin works on dopamine, and we need something that works on serotonin. There is a novel way to treat OCD, and that’s Zyprexa. I found it worked for my OCD very well, and it also calmed me down so I could think straight. Everybody else on this newsgroup will find Zyprexa foreign or the wrong choice for OCD–but they’re not psychiatrists. Good psychiatrists will know about this treatment, for Zyprexa works on serotonin in a roundabout way. Perhaps you can try a tricyclic antidepressant. The one with the least side-effects is desipramine. Tricyclics tend to have the same side-effect profile as Paxil. Have you ever considered an MAOI, like Nardil or Parnate? These drugs have as much efficacy as any other drug, but with unique precautions. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
I also think you’re missing out by not taking the Effexor. It has the least side-effects of any drug I have ever taken. Withdrawal: Not everyone gets it, and even if they do, there are remedies for it: From: "Chris" Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:05:30 +0000 Subject: Diphenhydramine for venlafaxine discontinuation reactions As a patient I found that Benadryl helped me get through the very uncomfortable withdrawals from Effexor. I only took it for a month. I was very surprised at the intensity of the withdrawal. The worst withdrawal effect for me was a sense of my nerves jangling when I moved my eyes and continuous indigestion, sort of a migraine-like feeling without the headache. When the Benedryl finally started to make me sleepy I switched to Dimetapp. The withdrawal took almost six weeks to get through, but I am now drug-free with tolerable levels of [chronic neck and back] pain [which was being treated with the Effexor]. From: "George Nasra" <nas…@penn.com
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:33:07 -0400 Subject: Venlafaxine discontinuation reactions I was tapering a patient off Effexor a few weeks ago and he had what I considered a severe withdrawal reaction with nausea and vomiting and flu-like symptoms although he was already started on fluoxetine. A slower tapering worked better. Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 20:46:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Judith Lipton <jlip…@forest.net
Subject: Venlafaxine discontinuation reactions Of particular note with venlaxafine is the severe withdrawal syndrome that may occur with dose reduction. Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Goldberg <psy…@psycom.net
Subject: Venlafaxine discontinuation reactions On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Charles S Berlin wrote:
In my experience with Effexor [the] main drawback is that – like Xanax — it seems easy to get on, but very hard to get off. Many of my patients on this med start to have some withdrawal symptoms after missing even a few doses, or when tapering down. From: "D. Fegg" Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 22:12:14 -0500 Subject: Diphenhydramine for venlafaxine discontinuation reactions I want to reply/confirm regarding a listing for Effexor withdrawl symptoms that Benadryl is a great help getting through some of the rougher symptoms — whoda thunkit?! I tapered off my Effexor from 150 mg/day to 75 mg/day for a few wks, then to 37.5 mg/day for 2 wks, and then off. For the first 48 hrs, I had no symptoms, but then I was socked with the "electrical shock" phenomena someone else mentioned — with any movement at all. There were also concentration difficulties and gastrointestinal upset and just general crumminess. About 4 days into this, I read the post about Benadryl and got some, with quick reduction in a lot of the symptoms — enough so that I could return to work. It didn’t eliminate all of the problems, but it did a good job. I took it for about two weeks and then was over virtually all problems. My doctor was not familiar enough with this medication to have advice regarding the type/length of withdrawl symptoms, so I passed on the above info and hope it will help someone else. By the way, I am one of those people who do miss the great dreams I had on Effexor — very detailed vivid and downright interesting dreams — oh well. Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:00:29 -0800 From: kerr…@ix.netcom.com (Kerri D. Carter ) Subject: Venlafaxine discontinuation reactions A female patient in her 50s is currently taking Effexor tid in addition to blood pressure medication. She recently had a routine surgery for nasal passage blockage and discontinued her Effexor for approximately 3 days. She states that she experienced ringing in her ears and throbbing in her head that she associates with the absence of the Effexor — and this has been sufficiently severe for her to seriously question continuing to take it. This patient is typically very treatment receptive and compliant. This patient experienced this on one other occasion, when first taking the medication, and decided to continue after reassurance from her doctor of its benefits. The patient has had an excellent response to Effexor. Subject: Venlafaxine discontinuation reactions Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 21:02:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey R. Stenzel" <jsten…@polar.Bowdoin.EDU
I have a patient that suffered the symptoms you describe. Both times she discontinued venlafaxine (dose <= 37.5 mg) she described tinnitus and a vertiginous-like experience that lasted up to a week. Both times the symptoms completely resolved. BTW, she liked everything about the antidepressant except decreased libido and anorgasmia, hence the reason for the switches. Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 13:08:32 -0800 From: Ivan Goldberg <Psy…@psycom.net
Subject: Fluoxetine for antidepressant discontinuation reactions When a patient is having a severe discontinuation syndrome following the too rapid discontinuation of paroxetine (Paxil) or venlafaxine (Effexor), the treatment I prefer is fluoxetine (Prozac) 20 mg. q.o.d. until the reaction disappears. It is seldom necessary to give more than 2 or 3 doses, and because of the long t-1/2 of fluoxetine, no additional doses are necessary. From: RMRi…@aol.com (Roberta M. Richardson, M.D.) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:27:49 -0500 Subject: Fluoxetine for antidepressant discontinuation reactions Dr. Sheldon Preskorn has also suggested using fluoxetine to treat paroxetine withdrawal, and I have used it successfully for both paroxetine and venlafaxine withdrawal. As per Dr. Preskorn’s advice, I give the fluoxetine for several consecutive days, then stop it and let the natural taper occur. Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 16:46:21 -0500 Subject: Fluoxetine for antidepressant discontinuation reactions From: cwolf…@pipeline.com (Cyrus Wolfman) I have found the use of fluoxetine a better approach in treating the so-called "discontinuation" symptoms on withdrawing SSRIs with short half-lives. In the past, I had raised the SSRI dose back up and simply reduced it more slowly, often with the symptoms reappearing on the more gradual withdrawal. Now, I lower the dose a second time, as in the past, but if the symptoms appear, I switch to fluoxetine 20 mg per day. As soon as the symptoms remit (in two or three days) I stop the fluoxetine. So far, no problems. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Hello all… I went to the doctors today and told him outright, that there is NO-WAY I am going to take these Efexor XL tabs he put me on. Jesus, have any of you read all the crap it can do to you, """type in Efexor withdrawal"" into any search engine, and have a read,,there’s thousands of them. I would come of meds altogether before I let any drug mess me up like that. Anyway to the point, I have been on Prozac for about 7 years on and off (never had any withdrawals from this at all, ever) for the last 3 and a half years I’ve been taking 20Mg daily and for the last 6 months I take 40Mg daily, Now my doc and me feel that they are starting to lose their potency and rather than increase them again we have decided to try another drug. First he put me on Paxil, as soon as I started taking it I got the feeling that I had a lump or something else stuck in my throat, also the back of my mouth felt a burning sensation, I’d get this for about five hours after taking the drug then it would pass. I told him I could do without side effects like that, thank you. Next he put me on Efexor XL, I came home and started browsing on here and the web, some of what I read you would not believe, so, it was in the bin for the Efexor. Back to my trusty old Prozac, Now this morning, he say’s what would you like to try today (sarcastic sod) he’s brilliant really. He say’s this time I should give either Luxor or Zoloft a go and to let him know tomorrow which one I would like. (meaning of course, after I have done my research on here) So there you have it, which one do you think is the best.. ( I told my doc, that if he doesn’t get it right this time to just give me a signed prescription book and I will sort myself out.) :) I look forward to your replies Oh yes!!!!! before I forget, do you know that the doc’s in the UK cannot give welbrutin for depression or as an additional drug with an SSRI. It’s only licensed here for something to do with giving up smoking (weird isn’t it) Also that Efexor*-XL MP/SR is not available in the states,(not licensed) although they reckon the half-life of this new brand of Efexor is almost tenfold that of the regular Efexor thus combating withdrawal effects, I still not going to take them though.:) Smurf
is it addictive? is it expensive? is it like valium/librium or is it better for anxiety? any bad side effects from the med? any one taken it for more than a year? i have to start taking it soon, and just wondered how it effects other people…. thanks in advance……roman
I’ve been on Buspar for 3 months. 60 mg/day. It works great for me without any side effects. It is not addictive.I don’t know how expensive it is – I have prescription coverage. It is extremely safe. I think it is used alot in children. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – is it addictive? is it expensive? is it like valium/librium or is it better for anxiety? any bad side effects from the med? any one taken it for more than a year? i have to start taking it soon, and just wondered how it effects other people…. thanks in advance……roman
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I’ve been on Buspar for a while now. Its non-addictive, moderately expensive. Effects? I don’t know of any for sure. I take it in connection with Zoloft. It ammeliorates some of the side effects of Zoloft and helps me get by on a lighter dose. Hope this helps. "All wisdom is plagiarism; only stupidity is original"
I have just started on Buspar also. So far I can tell no bad side effects. Would like to hear of successes. My doctor was not very positive this would help me. Let us know. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been on Buspar for 3 months. 60 mg/day. It works great for me without any side effects. It is not addictive.I don’t know how expensive it is – I have prescription coverage. It is extremely safe. I think it is used alot in children. is it addictive? is it expensive? is it like valium/librium or is it better for anxiety? any bad side effects from the med? any one taken it for more than a year? i have to start taking it soon, and just wondered how it effects other people…. thanks in advance……roman
I just started on a combo of Buspar and Wellbutrin after 2 years on Paxil… I’ll let you know how it goes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have just started on Buspar also. So far I can tell no bad side effects. Would like to hear of successes. My doctor was not very positive this would help me. Let us know. I’ve been on Buspar for 3 months. 60 mg/day. It works great for me without any side effects. It is not addictive.I don’t know how expensive it is – I have prescription coverage. It is extremely safe. I think it is used alot in children. is it addictive? is it expensive? is it like valium/librium or is it better for anxiety? any bad side effects from the med? any one taken it for more than a year? i have to start taking it soon, and just wondered how it effects other people…. thanks in advance……roman
Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep! At least I think I did. Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning. I’m hoping that using a little pharmy assist just for sleep for the next 3 or 4 days will see me all the way through the rest of Effexor withdrawal. I’m hoping that I am *not* just putting it off, but my doc tells me I have no reason to worry about that. Otherwise, some dizziness once up and about, but that is nothing compared to the wild nights of yesteryear. I may be OK now. Whew.
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Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep! At least I think I did. Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning. I’m hoping that using a little pharmy assist just for sleep for the next 3 or 4 days will see me all the way through the rest of Effexor withdrawal. I’m hoping that I am *not* just putting it off, but my doc tells me I have no reason to worry about that. Otherwise, some dizziness once up and about, but that is nothing compared to the wild nights of yesteryear. I may be OK now. Whew.
Mark, Glad to hear that you found something to help you get through this. Hopefully, you’ve been through the worst of it. chuck
Hey, I took 10mg of Valium last night and got a normal night’s sleep! At least I think I did. Slept all the way through, no psycho dreams, no problems whatsoever, just a tiny bit of grogginess this morning.
Glad to hear that, Mark. I hope you don’t have to stay on the Valium for more than a few days also. I think I remember you (?) saying something about trying to drink lots of water to help clear out your system. I was also wondering if getting out for walks and fresh air helps get the Effexor out of one’s system more quickly. (I really don’t know, but it seems like it might.) Btw, I have to tell you about a dream I had about you (nothing like your nightmares, thankfully), but it was kind of funny, and I think you’ll appreciate the humor in it. Dream: I was typing a response to one of your posts, BUT the catch was that I was totally blind (or blindfolded?) and had to spend hours replacing my hands on the "base keys" to keep my place. Then, I would forget whether I had backspaced to correct errors (and I remembered thinking…geez this can’t have typos in it!) and, I could never re-read anything I typed. I’m generally a good typist so this was a very frustrating dream. It seemed like it did go on for hours. hehehe… I guess my posts do sometimes too. I was going to tell you about this the next day, but that was the same day that you posted a goodbye to asd message. Weird. Take it easy, Mark. Hopefully you’ll keep posting (and I’ll try not to be too blind in any of my responses) <g Leah
Doda1207 schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head? If I were you I would tell my doc to change your medication, I had a similar reaction on Prozac, and it is frustrating to have the medication CAUSE what it is supposed to help. I am now on Paxil (started it today) and hoping for more success. My doctor says it is very common to have to change meds due to side effects, so talk to your doctor. Hope this helps, take care, Dody
All SSRI’s (and Zoloft belongs to this group as do Paxil and Prozac) will worsen your symptoms during the first 2-8 weeks. To assess if this is really the med for you or not the best thing to do is to wait a few weeks. I know what it’s like, believe me. But it does take a while for these meds to kick in. You might ask your doctor for a benzo on the soide as this softens the side effects of the first weeks. Xanax and Ativan come to mind, which are fast-working meds with a very short half-life. A combo of SSRI and benzo for maintenance is quite common these days as well. Don’t give up too quickly…(I know how hard this can be) Philip Peters
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. (It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head? If I were you I would tell my doc to change your medication, I had a similar reaction on Prozac, and it is frustrating to have the medication CAUSE what it is supposed to help. I am now on Paxil (started it today) and hoping for more success. My doctor says it is very common to have to change meds due to side effects, so talk to your doctor.
It is not uncommon to have exagerrated anxiety while adjusting to an SRI. I would recommend calling your doc and asking for something to help while you adjust. It takes weeks before one can assess if Zoloft is right or wrong for you. When I started Paxil I had attacks too. That ended after a few weeks. I couldn’t possibly have made a decision after 4 days. Gwen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. (It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head? If I were you I would tell my doc to change your medication, I had a similar reaction on Prozac, and it is frustrating to have the medication CAUSE what it is supposed to help. I am now on Paxil (started it today) and hoping for more success. My doctor says it is very common to have to change meds due to side effects, so talk to your doctor. It is not uncommon to have exagerrated anxiety while adjusting to an SRI. I would recommend calling your doc and asking for something to help while you adjust. It takes weeks before one can assess if Zoloft is right or wrong for you. When I started Paxil I had attacks too. That ended after a few weeks. I couldn’t possibly have made a decision after 4 days. Gwen
Nothing snipped so as to cause no annoyance Steve replied: I have tried Prozac, Effexor and Zoloft. All were a nightmare for me (ME, Steve) I can speak for no one else. The dreaded ‘benzos’ seem to work for me. Good luck, Steve Treloar
Zoloft did this to me too. I just dealt with it (a little xanex helped) and eventually, it passed. Scary stuff though… cathy
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head?
Many people here (including myself) have experienced that starting an SRI such as Zoloft will actually increase panic in the early going. For most, this side effect will wear off in a few weeks. There are a couple of ways to get around it. One way is to start on a very low dose of Zoloft, and gradually increase the dose until you reach a therapeutic level (possibly taking several months to do it). This low start and slow increase eliminates most of the side effects. Another way to reduce side effects is to take a benzo on a temporary basis, until you are established on the Zoloft. The benzo can help control the anxiety produced by the medication. Do talk to your doctor about this, as increased anxiety is a common early side effect of SRIs, and there are ways to get around the problem. Best wishes, Hirsch address in header has been changed to avoid junk mail. To reach me by email, substitute erols for nospam in my reply-to address.
I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head?
I’m terribly sorry to read this but, if it’s any consolation, it isn’t at all uncommon – indeed, Zoloft did that to me, too. All the SSRIs seem capable of causing increased anxiety when first started and to counter this some doctors start patients at very low doses, slowly increasing them till the desired effect is achieved. Some also prescribe anxiolytics (typically benzodiazepines) to offset this side effect. If it’s very bad, I’d really recommend you talk to your doctor about it. Hope that’s some help – good luck! — Gary Cooper
I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head?
If I were you I would tell my doc to change your medication, I had a similar reaction on Prozac, and it is frustrating to have the medication CAUSE what it is supposed to help. I am now on Paxil (started it today) and hoping for more success. My doctor says it is very common to have to change meds due to side effects, so talk to your doctor. Hope this helps, take care, Dody
the two most common benzodiazapines (that I come across in reading posts) used to bridge the adjustment period to a SSRI are Xanax or Klonopin I was given klonopin to get over the adjustment to paxil.
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I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a
really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly
woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body.
I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a
panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about
going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic
(chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems
wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more
panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me?
Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head? Hi, From what I hear (I can’t remember myself) Many times when you start on an antidepressant, your symtoms can become worse at first. It is always a good idea to give a new med a couple of weeks, for the medication to build up in your system and let the side effects die down. Unless of course the side effects are really bad, in that case I would immediately talk to your doctor. Hope that helps. Lee "Life is too important to be taken seriously"
I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks
Very common for SRI’s to increase anxiety (even to the point of panic) in the first few weeks. You might want to talk to your doc about adding or increasing a benzo til your body adjusts. I don’t take Zoloft – but had a heck of a time adjusting to Paxil. Gwen
I just started taking Zoloft four days ago for panic disorder and depression. For the first two days I had a really bad headache. For the past two nights I have suddenly woken up from a nap with a sort of intense rush in my body. I feel as if I can’t breath, my entire body chills over, I feel detatched and unreal, my heart beats really fast, and it is almost a panicky state that I’m in, but not quite. I’m starting to get terrified about going to sleep. Now, I’ve had panic attacks in the past, but never two in a two days. My symptoms are generally more chronic (chest pain, headache, on edge feelings). It just seems wierd that I would start Zoloft and then start getting more panic attacks. Can anyone offer any advice for me? Medication or just the panic disorder rearing it’s ugly head?