Both to varying degrees. — CBI, M.D. Please note: It is impossible to accurately diagnose medical problems without seeing the patient and reviewing the entire history. These posts are intended to be helpful and informative. Always check with your doctor before following any advice given.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious about meds. Would Flovent and Serevent be prescribed for Emphysema or are they usually just dxed for asthma?
I’m curious about meds. Would Flovent and Serevent be prescribed for Emphysema or are they usually just dxed for asthma?
Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’. It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag]. Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines. Amazing how much stuff you can get in there. :) Chris Owens
I’m laughing! The last time the whole family flew somewhere, I carried all meds in a huge athletic bag. When a security guard stopped me to look through the bag, I just kinda threw it at him and said, "Whatever. It’s all medicine. Knock yourself out." I ignored him and tried to corral the kids. He unzipped it and took a single look. He rolled his eyes and said, "Man, I’m not going through all that. Go ahead." Mary
I use the Aerogear by the Aerochamber people. It has an Aerochamber and a Truzone pfm all in a fanny pack. It is very convenient and also holds about 3 MDI’s. I can let you know where to get one if you are interested.
I use the Pulmicort Inhaler (budesonide) this comes with a small spacer. It measures about an inch square and 3 inches long, expanding to twice its length when used. I find it better than the normal inhaler as it does not effect my throat as the other bectotide did. Steve
Your email address indicates you are in the UK. In the US, Pulmicort is only available as a Turbuhaler (DPI) No spacer is used since it is breath actuated. The best spacer is probably the AeroChamber, a medium size valved device with whistle. For those who want a small spacer for travel, the OptiHaler is very compact, the MDI may be carried in the device. Ellis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret
I use the Ellipse spacer; both my Serevent and Flovent fit right into it. That and my peak flow both fit into a small handbag quite easily. Great for carry-on to airplanes! C-ko "ambition makes you look very ugly kicking squealing gucci little piggy why don’t you remember my name you runt?" paranoid android — radiohead
Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky.
I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’. It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag]. Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines. Amazing how much stuff you can get in there. :) Chris Owens
Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I own what my family refers to as ‘the suitcase’. It’s a BIG purse [actually an athletic bag]. Just inside the legal limit for carry-on for the airlines. Amazing how much stuff you can get in there. :) Chris Owens
It’s best to carry your spacer, becuase then you can avoid and oral yeast infection.
When I travel, I pack all my meds, my spacer, and my peak flow meter in an insulated lunch box. The insulated part was for if they had to sit in the trunk of my car for several hours, like when I’m going home for Christmas break. So far, I’ve never had any trouble with the inhalers getting too hot or cold, and everything is in one place. janet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret
Hi I use the Pulmicort Inhaler (budesonide) this comes with a small spacer. It measures about an inch square and 3 inches long, expanding to twice its length when used. I find it better than the normal inhaler as it does not effect my throat as the other bectotide did. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret
Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret
Hi all, For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. Thanks for any suggestions. Margaret
I have a really nifty spacer. Its no bigger than a ventolin inhaler itself. I can’t get them commercially but they get left as promotional samples at my drugstore. They are made by Boehringer Ingelheim ( in Connecticut ) and are called Inhalation Aids Jerry Freedman,Jr
:Hi all, :For those of you who use a spacer when taking oral sprays (as I do) do you :take your spacer with you when you travel and if so, how do you pack :it/take it with you? Mind’s rather bulky. I do use one and always take mine with me when I travel. mine comes apart into two sections that fit together (like this!) / / / / / a) In that shape they fit into the pocket of a rucksack (30-40L) and sundries likes the inhalers and/or a PFL can fir into the holow. b) It is also a convenient shape for putting into a suitace, and socks can fill the hollow. :Thanks for any suggestions. :Margaret : : : Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email: Remove "nospam" from above Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG
Hanging on by my nails. Moved to Georgia. My ex and Maria came too to try to keep family together for her. I am assistant to a professor and go back out for teaching this season (next month) if can get energy up . . . could not handle effexor withdrawal so I put myself back on this weekend. I need my zyprexa, but can’t have it. Side effects put me in this damn wheel chair. Not a single friend here. I know Aware here, but not together enough to ask to meet yet. Hard time doing my work — any work — really feel scared and hopeless and I am so aware that in the end the sick must have willpower or they can simply end up on a curb with dirty matted hair . . . very scared. Rosena
Hanging on by my nails. Moved to Georgia. My ex and Maria came too to try to keep family together for her. I am assistant to a professor and go back out for teaching this season (next month) if can get energy up . . . could not handle effexor withdrawal so I put myself back on this weekend. I need my zyprexa, but can’t have it. Side effects put me in this damn wheel chair. Not a single friend here. I know Aware here, but not together enough to ask to meet yet. Hard time doing my work — any work — really feel scared and hopeless and I am so aware that in the end the sick must have willpower or they can simply end up on a curb with dirty matted hair . . . very scared. Rosena
hi rosena. i’m in sc. met aware once, she is nice. mabey we could have an atlanta meet? dennis Death Be Not Proud by John Donne: Death be not proud, though some have called thee Mighty and dreadful, for, thou art not so,
Hanging on by my nails. Moved to Georgia. My ex and Maria came too to try to keep family together for her. I am assistant to a professor and go back out for teaching this season (next month) if can get energy up . . . could not handle effexor withdrawal so I put myself back on this weekend. I need my zyprexa, but can’t have it. Side effects put me in this damn wheel chair. Not a single friend here. I know Aware here, but not together enough to ask to meet yet. Hard time doing my work — any work — really feel scared and hopeless and I am so aware that in the end the sick must have willpower or they can simply end up on a curb with dirty matted hair . . . very scared. Rosena
Hello 
) Sorry you’re having it so tough at the moment – but good luck with the new job! Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Rosena}}}}} — — Whiskers
i am slowly going insane being invisible
But you’re NOT, you’re probably lonely. My therp reminds me all the time: "Social isolation is considered severe punishment in prison."
i am slowly going insane being invisible
Honey, I wasn’t even here yesterday. But I am now, and you’re not invisible. ***** Melissa "The wood is tired, and the wood is old. But we’ll make it fine if the weather holds. But if the weather holds, then we’ll have missed the point. That’s where I need to go." –Indigo Girls
i am slowly going insane being invisible
i am slowly going insane being invisible
I can see you. Mary Beth
Well met, Adam. Boy ARE you in the right place. Birds of a feather and all that. I hate the insomnia. It sucks the most because I know next comes the deep depression.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, i am new to this group, and from what i have read so far i will fit in just cosy. I have now been up for 47 hours, and although i am real tired as soon as my head hits the pillow i wake up again. The thought s in my head just dont stop.. You are useless, whats the point, nobody wants you… you cant even committ suicide without screwing up….so i sit here in front of my pc moping, waching the weekend drift by, not seeing anyone, not talking to any one. Occasionaly speaking on icq to an aquaintance, but then they rush off and do stuff constructive in their busy lives, and i sit and clean out my hard drive. Tomorrow is Monday, and i return to work. carry out the day and return to my pc….God I am so sad… what is the point??
Welcome to the jungle! Welcome to the jungle! It’s gonna bring you down. huh! Guns and Roses Sorry just being dramatic. :^) Gloria
Well, i am new to this group, and from what i have read so far i will fit in just cosy. I have now been up for 47 hours, and although i am real tired as soon as my head hits the pillow i wake up again. The thought s in my head just dont stop.. You are useless, whats the point, nobody wants you… you cant even committ suicide without screwing up….so i sit here in front of my pc moping, waching the weekend drift by, not seeing anyone, not talking to any one. Occasionaly speaking on icq to an aquaintance, but then they rush off and do stuff constructive in their busy lives, and i sit and clean out my hard drive. Tomorrow is Monday, and i return to work. carry out the day and return to my pc….God I am so sad… what is the point??
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Well, i am new to this group, and from what i have read so far i will fit in just cosy. I have now been up for 47 hours, and although i am real tired as soon as my head hits the pillow i wake up again. The thought s in my head just dont stop.. You are useless, whats the point, nobody wants you… you cant even committ suicide without screwing up….so i sit here in front of my pc moping, waching the weekend drift by, not seeing anyone, not talking to any one. Occasionaly speaking on icq to an aquaintance, but then they rush off and do stuff constructive in their busy lives, and i sit and clean out my hard drive. Tomorrow is Monday, and i return to work. carry out the day and return to my pc….God I am so sad… what is the point??
Welcome to ASD. I am in the minority concerning sleep habits. When I go into "the pit," I become hypersomniac. A couple years ago, I went through a stretch in which I slept 14-15 hours per day. Of course, the waking hours were living hell. Plus, that much sleep (fitful sleep, I might add) is disorienting. It seems to have the end effect of no sleep at all. Anyway, I hope you get some sleep. Keep posting. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, i am new to this group, and from what i have read so far i will fit in just cosy. I have now been up for 47 hours, and although i am real tired as soon as my head hits the pillow i wake up again. The thought s in my head just dont stop.. You are useless, whats the point, nobody wants you… you cant even committ suicide without screwing up….so i sit here in front of my pc moping, waching the weekend drift by, not seeing anyone, not talking to any one. Occasionaly speaking on icq to an aquaintance, but then they rush off and do stuff constructive in their busy lives, and i sit and clean out my hard drive. Tomorrow is Monday, and i return to work. carry out the day and return to my pc….God I am so sad… what is the point??
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Thank you all for the greetings, i dozed off at the keyboard. Lillith I am there. I am alienating the friends i have, and i dont mean to
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well met, Adam. Boy ARE you in the right place. Birds of a feather and all that. I hate the insomnia. It sucks the most because I know next comes the deep depression.
: I feel guilty for receiving support and not giving back so much right now : but maybe I can forgive myself and accept that I’m not doing well and I’m : trying to make a very diffiult decision, ect or not. : : I called my pdoc today and we talked. she answered my questions and I’m : satisfied with her answers so I think I’ll try ect. the ward is full right : now but my pdoc was going to call every day and find out when they have room : for me. probably on sunday she said. : : unreal. can’t understand that I’m talking about myself. : : I’m terrified. ((((((Linda)))))) When I first read this, I wasn’t sure what ect was, but then I looked it up in the group’s FAQ. Now I do understand. I do hope this treatment works well for you. Jim — Jim Todd Remove "SPAM" to send e-mail
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I’m thinking of you. Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Linda}}}}} — — Whiskers
Linda, If you’re running out of meds to try, then maybe ECT is an option for you. I once spoke to my pdoc about it, and he said that ECT is very effective, but you have to try to come up with a plan for what to do after the treatments. ECT works to make things better for a while, and gives you time to plan what your next med will be, but you have to talk with your pdoc about what other meds you can try. Personally I’ve had a great run with Aurorix (moclobemide) but that’s not available in all countries. I don’t know if it’s available in Europe. If you can get the Aurorix, I had to push the dose up to 1200 mg to get a lasting effect (which is a pretty high dose). I also had a good run for a while combining Effexor XR with risperidone and later seroquel. I don’t know if you’ve tried these type of meds (antipsychotics / major tranqualisers) in combination with an SSRI. I know ECT is scary, but I think it might be a good option to give you some time and some relief for a while. I really hope it works for you. Email me if you want to talk anytime. Get Bjorn to forward messages to ASD about how you’re doing if you’re in hospital or not feeling up to posting. I (and many others here) care and want to know what’s happening with you. Best of luck, Kylie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I feel guilty for receiving support and not giving back so much right now but maybe I can forgive myself and accept that I’m not doing well and I’m trying to make a very diffiult decision, ect or not. I called my pdoc today and we talked. she answered my questions and I’m satisfied with her answers so I think I’ll try ect. the ward is full right now but my pdoc was going to call every day and find out when they have room for me. probably on sunday she said. unreal. can’t understand that I’m talking about myself. I’m terrified. Linda
I feel guilty for receiving support and not giving back so much right now but maybe I can forgive myself and accept that I’m not doing well and I’m trying to make a very diffiult decision, ect or not. I called my pdoc today and we talked. she answered my questions and I’m satisfied with her answers so I think I’ll try ect. the ward is full right now but my pdoc was going to call every day and find out when they have room for me. probably on sunday she said. unreal. can’t understand that I’m talking about myself. I’m terrified. Linda
I feel guilty for receiving support and not giving back so much right now but maybe I can forgive myself and accept that I’m not doing well and I’m trying to make a very diffiult decision, ect or not. I called my pdoc today and we talked. she answered my questions and I’m satisfied with her answers so I think I’ll try ect. the ward is full right now but my pdoc was going to call every day and find out when they have room for me. probably on sunday she said. unreal. can’t understand that I’m talking about myself. I’m terrified.
I can understand that. But I do feel you have made a good decision. Stan Linda
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Does anyone have experience with taking Celexa vs. Prozac? Thanks so much.
Does anyone have experience with taking Celexa vs. Prozac? Thanks so much.
I tried Prozac once a long time ago, but I had to stop after a few days. Prozac made me extremely anxious. Celexa is the best SSRI I have taken. I just switched from Zoloft to Celexa, and Celexa is equally or more effective as an anti-depressant with fewer and milder side effects than Zoloft, which is already a lot better than Prozac.
I have been taking seroxat/paxil for some years now, but it seems to have stopped working, and anyway it messes up my sexual response. I did try Prozac for a short while but it made me manic and insomniac. Any recommendations would be welcome.
I used seroxat for mere months and besides the sexual sideeffects I also suffered from insomnia. Even so much that Dalmadorm 30 mg did not help. It gave me a shallow restless and short sleep of perhaps 3 to 4 hours. Perhaps prozac would work better for me.
The best person to ask, obviously, would be your doctor or your psychiatrist. Personally, I was on Paxil for 4 years (if I remember correctly) and then suddenly got very depressed at the beginning of this year. Unfortunatly antidepressants can "poop out" on some people, which is what happened to me, and likely you. My shrink switched me to Zoloft (sertraline) because it is helpful for anxiety as well as depression, like Paxil. I’ve never had sexual problems on either drug so I’m not sure if Zoloft is as bad as Paxil for that, but I’d definitely mention the sexual side-effects when you see your doc. Good luck! Tara – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been taking seroxat/paxil for some years now, but it seems to have stopped working, and anyway it messes up my sexual response. I did try Prozac for a short while but it made me manic and insomniac. Any recommendations would be welcome.
I have been taking seroxat/paxil for some years now, but it seems to have stopped working, and anyway it messes up my sexual response. I did try Prozac for a short while but it made me manic and insomniac. Any recommendations would be welcome.
Stan, M8, I hear ya loud and clear. I have tried every type of AD for just over 2 years now… with limited (being generous) success. I have come to terms with the fact that Benzos are my "insulin" so to speak. I am happy living with them for the rest of my life. Stan can u tell me something…. u seem to have been on them much longer than me….. I am curious to know whether you have had any long term, irreversible side-effects. Thanx, Russ. "Stan D." <es…@swipnet.se
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Benzos provide quick and effective help for my SP (hand tremor). I shall always remember the first time I took them, back in the sixties. I had
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before experienced that a drug could help. Meprobamates and barbiturates were the common and useless drugs then. When I take the benzo, the SP
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and fear disappear. I start enjoying socialising in a way that feels natural. This is where the soma comes in, the Saturday drug that people take in Huxley
Hi, There is no physical test (blood, etc.) that can determine if you have OCD. The only way is to describe your symptoms and feelings to the pdoc. You may want to schedule a normal exam with your regular doctor to rule out any other physical problems. That would be up to you. A Zoloft/Xanax combination would be a good first choice for someone with OCD or OCD like tendencies. Why do you think you may have OCD? The symptoms you describe below could be OCD, or they might be a lot of other things. Are your thoughts consistently about "bad" things that may happen, or are they "going over" everyday events and worries? Do you repeat the same thought over and over or do you think about a lot of different things? Do you have any physical compulsions like checking and rechecking things, or hoarding things? I’m kind of interested in this sort of stuff, because I have OC tendencies a lot of times, but I don’t believe I have OCD. I believe I may have a personality disorder that is kind of similar to OCD but is not the same. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have what i though was anxiety attacks. as i have read up on things it appears i have many similarities with OCD. i have been going to a phsychiatrist but he wasn’t really the one for me. he imediatly put me on Zoloft, with out any tests or checkups. I have reaccurring thoughts about everything. i just can’t seem to "get over things". i constantly concentrate on physical flaws i feel i have. i think the biggest problem is dealing with things. i can’t seem to think clearly or objectively. my thoughts are constantly crowded with the same thoughts over and over. the phsychiatrist also gave me xanax, which helps alot, but i have heard bad things about the drug like depression and dependance. can someone please give me some insight. anything would be good right now. — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
I have what i though was anxiety attacks. as i have read up on things it appears i have many similarities with OCD. i have been going to a phsychiatrist but he wasn’t really the one for me.
Find another pdoc if you aren`t happy with this one. Only a pdoc can diagnosis you. OCD is a anxiety disorder, and you can have panic disorder and OCD at the same time, that is why you need to see a new doctor and get diagnosed. he imediatly put me on Zoloft, with out any tests or checkups.
A pdoc is not going to test you or do a checkup on you. He will diagnosis you by what you tell him. It is always a good idea to go to a medical doctor for a complete physical and to make sure there is no physical reason for your symptoms. A Pdoc will not do this for you. Zoloft can be quite effective for anxiety and OCD. It does take 6 to 8 weeks to become effective though. I have reaccurring thoughts about everything. i just can’t seem to "get over things". i constantly concentrate on physical flaws i feel i have. i think the biggest problem is dealing with things. i can’t seem to think clearly or objectively. my thoughts are constantly crowded with the same thoughts over and over. the phsychiatrist also gave me xanax, which helps alot, but i have heard bad things about the drug like depression and dependance. can someone please give me some insight. anything would be good right now.
It is good to take the Xanax while weaning on the Zoloft. I haven`t seen many people here complain of depression while on Xanax, and if that were to happen there are other benzo`s you can take. You will become dependent on the Zoloft as well as the Xanax, and all that means is you will have to stop the meds slowly when the time comes. Many meds cause a physical dependency and this shouldn`t be confused with *addiction*. If you use the Xanax as prescribed by your doctor you will not get addicted to it. Take care!!!! Jackie
I have what i though was anxiety attacks. as i have read up on things it appears i have many similarities with OCD. i have been going to a phsychiatrist but he wasn’t really the one for me. he imediatly put me on Zoloft, with out any tests or checkups. I have reaccurring thoughts about everything. i just can’t seem to "get over things". i constantly concentrate on physical flaws i feel i have. i think the biggest problem is dealing with things. i can’t seem to think clearly or objectively. my thoughts are constantly crowded with the same thoughts over and over. the phsychiatrist also gave me xanax, which helps alot, but i have heard bad things about the drug like depression and dependance. can someone please give me some insight. anything would be good right now. — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have what i though was anxiety attacks. as i have read up on things it appears i have many similarities with OCD. i have been going to a phsychiatrist but he wasn’t really the one for me. he imediatly put me on Zoloft, with out any tests or checkups. I have reaccurring thoughts about everything. i just can’t seem to "get over things". i constantly concentrate on physical flaws i feel i have. i think the biggest problem is dealing with things. i can’t seem to think clearly or objectively. my thoughts are constantly crowded with the same thoughts over and over. the phsychiatrist also gave me xanax, which helps alot, but i have heard bad things about the drug like depression and dependance. can someone please give me some insight. anything would be good right now. — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
Hi, How long have you been on the zoloft? I’m pretty sure that SSRI’s are standard treatment for OCD as well as anxiety. I think luvox is used frequently for OCD. Sometimes it takes weeks for an AD to kick in. I don’t think I have OCD, but being on an SSRI has eliminated 99% of my worries, and ruminations. Haven’t heard of too many people here depressed from xanax. It didn’t affect me that way. If you are worried about dependence on xanax, there are ways to taper off of it. If your still having the recurring thoughts/anxiety while on zoloft after 8 weeks, it might not be the correct med for you. Maria
OCD is an anxiety disorder. Panic disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, phobias, generalized anxiety disorder are all ANXIETY DISORDERS.
dear jm, one more thing the zolof ( not sure of the spelling, ) but it kept me awake also. But imipramine which is for depression didnt. It took about a week for my mind to shut off at night and now i sleep real well most of the time only once in a while i wake with the rapid heart beat of anxiety.
– I am a 33 year old married mother of 3. And I have anxiety attacks and depression, I also suffer from migraines that leave me sick for days. Sometimes I don:t want to face the world, This is hard for my husband to understand, And even harded on the kids.
I sympathize with you completely….did you ever snap at your family because they bothered you in the middle of an attack? I have (not meaning to of course). My husband just barely understands my problem…..but I don’t he really gets the full picture of it. I take medication Zoloft.Xanax andAlprazolam Plus St. John Wort. Hopeing something will help. Everytime I have a pain I think I am dieing. I can"t sleep at night. And I am up all alone, which makes it worst. I want to be happy and enjoy life.
Usually I prefer to be alone when my attacks happen because I feel no one has to see me go looney (I’ve caught my daughter watch me once and I think it kinda scared her). My doctor (family) tells me I am to young for the other medications. But I need help. I can"t go on like this. I would like a piece of mind. And maybe for someone to understand want I am going though. Does anyone have any answers? I guess it"s been harder because both of my brothers have pass away. and I only have my husband,kids and my mother. People think you can just jump up and be happy. But it doesn"t work that way for me. help.
It’s funny, my father has this condition and now that he’s on Paxil and feeling better, he’s less sympathic with me (although in some cases, he understands). I definitely feel the same way you do, and I’m glad you came out with your feelings. It’s good to know someone else out there feels the same way. Believe me, you are not alone. I just discovered that now when I found this group. Thank you guys for being here. Now I don’t feel so isolated. ANDI http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/6104/index.html (The Monkees Pics N Stuff Webpage) "And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make." – Lennon/McCartney
my attacks seemed to stem rom an obsession with my heart rate. my doctor gave me a beta bloacker, inderal, which took care of this. it did wonders. talk that over with your doc. once i got rid of the heart rate thing i could deal with the attacks much more effectively. "funny thing i learned about food, the more you eat…the more you NEW BOLLARD WEB PAGE…. http://members.aol.com/papilln/index.html cider,lost love and road trips.
Usually I prefer to be alone when my attacks happen because I feel no one has
to see me go looney< Touche Andrea, I can’t stand to have anyone around. It is not *normal* to crawl around on all fours like an animal that’s wounded. To have someone watching me makes it worse. On the bright side, I haven’t had a P/A in 4 months and consider myself lucky that I have triggers and could easily eliminate them. Kathi Kathi
hi – we all know what you are going through in this group. It is very hard for families to understand this illness – everyone is always telling us to "snap out of it" and "if you make up your mind to do something, you can do it". If they had to live with this for only one day, I think they might be more sympathetic. I am 48 and have 2 children. They do understand to a point and my 19 year old is a big help to me, as is my husband – but only when it is convenient for them. Otherwise, I get that disgusted look people are so quick to give. I take Xanax when I feel I need it. That alprazolam is just a generic form of Xanax – you don’t need both. I never took my Zoloft or Paxil long enough for it to do me any good – I have a thing about being dependent on pills. How long have you taken this stuff? It takes at least a month to "kick in". And how long have you been suffering with the attacks? I believe the depression comes from having them. For you to have migraines as well must be very debilitating. I had agoraphobic and attacks in my 20’s; then for some mysterious reason I was well for 18 years. That first time, I had horrible headaches (migraines?), too. But it was from the stress, I think. Maybe it is with you, too, and as you start feeling better they will lessen. I can relate to everything you said. Now that I’m sick again, worse than ever, I can sympathize. Just try to take it one day at a time. Try to keep busy – I find when I get involved with something – housework or reading, whatever, I don’t think about every little thing that is going on with my body. We anxious people have a tendency to feel too much of what is going on and get that "feel like we’re going to die" feeling a lot. If you feel like talking to me and it AOL.com - stay calm Cheryl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -hi – we all know what you are going through in this group. It is very hard for families to understand this illness – everyone is always telling us to "snap out of it" and "if you make up your mind to do something, you can do it". If they had to live with this for only one day, I think they might be more sympathetic. I am 48 and have 2 children. They do understand to a point and my 19 year old is a big help to me, as is my husband – but only when it is convenient for them. Otherwise, I get that disgusted look people are so quick to give. I take Xanax when I feel I need it. That alprazolam is just a generic form of Xanax – you don’t need both. I never took my Zoloft or Paxil long enough for it to do me any good – I have a thing about being dependent on pills. How long have you taken this stuff? It takes at least a month to "kick in". And how long have you been suffering with the attacks? I believe the depression comes from having them. For you to have migraines as well must be very debilitating. I had agoraphobic and attacks in my 20’s; then for some mysterious reason I was well for 18 years. That first time, I had horrible headaches (migraines?), too. But it was from the stress, I think. Maybe it is with you, too, and as you start feeling better they will lessen. I can relate to everything you said. Now that I’m sick again, worse than ever, I can sympathize. Just try to take it one day at a time. Try to keep busy – I find when I get involved with something – housework or reading, whatever, I don’t think about every little thing that is going on with my body. We anxious people have a tendency to feel too much of what is going on and get that "feel like we’re going to die" feeling a lot. If you feel like talking to me and it AOL.com - stay calm Cheryl
Thank you for understanding (sorry if I’m being redundant) and I appreciate the support you and the rest of the newsgroup is giving me. I could sure use the helping hand. ANDI http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/6104/index.html (The Monkees Pics N Stuff Webpage) "And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make." – Lennon/McCartney
Andi – I am sorry that you are going threw this type of thing. No one will ever really understand unless they have lived threw it. I know this may sound mean, but I have been so mad at one point at my co workers and family – that I have WISHED this on them – just for 2 days and 2 nights at it’s WORST. I hope that doesn’t make me an evil person. I think that if they did experience some of what you are going threw – then they’d understand. At least there is this newsgroup so you can relate to others dealing with the same types of things. Take care. – Spoon.
Frombufalo schreef: Usually I prefer to be alone when my attacks happen because I feel no one has to see me go looney< Touche Andrea, I can’t stand to have anyone around. It is not *normal* to crawl around on all fours like an animal that’s wounded. To have someone watching me makes it worse. On the bright side, I haven’t had a P/A in 4 months and consider myself lucky that I have triggers and could easily eliminate them. Kathi Kathi
Hey Kath! There’s two of you now? Philip
Usually I prefer to be alone when my attacks happen because I feel no one has to see me go looney<
I find that, if someone else is around and I share what I’m going through, it only makes them nervous as there’s nothing they can do and usually they are afraid of doing something wrong. OTOH, it’s sometimes scary to be alone inthe middle of a real PA. I guess I just like to have my close persons know I’m having a problem and there’s nothing for them to do, so they won’t wonder why I can’t concentrate, etc., and try to help with no results or negative results. Gordon Held
Andi – I am sorry that you are going threw this type of thing. No one will ever really understand unless they have lived threw it. I know this may sound mean, but I have been so mad at one point at my co workers and family – that I have WISHED this on them – just for 2 days and 2 nights at it’s WORST. I hope that doesn’t make me an evil person. I think that if they did experience some of what you are going threw – then they’d understand. At least there is this newsgroup so you can relate to others dealing with the same types of things. Take care. – Spoon.
You are not mean…..I’ve wished this on a person or two, just so they could see that I’m not trying to make excuses for not going places or doing things. I especially wish it on them 2 fold, when they made stupid remarks like "get over it" or "you just don’t want to deal with (a particular situation)", or my favorite "not that excuse again!" ANDI http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/6104/index.html (The Monkees Pics N Stuff Webpage) "And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make." – Lennon/McCartney
Dear Andi5555 I am so sorry to hear that you feel the way I do. The headaches get so bad that I spend 2 or 3 days in the bed. No one understands., they think it"s a small headache. I have to be in a dark room with no sound. I can"t eat and I don"t feel like moving. And when they do go away, I feel week for acouple of days. My 2 older kids 16 & 14 get by o.k. But it is hard on the 3 year old. I just hope that as I get older they will go away. People have tolded me that sometimes they do. I just pray and ask God to help me get though it. This is alot of help to talk to other people who feel the same way. Have a Happy New Years and here"s to a new year without PAD &
Dear Andi5555 I am so sorry to hear that you feel the way I do. The headaches get so bad that I spend 2 or 3 days in the bed. No one understands., they think it"s a small headache. I have to be in a dark room with no sound. I can"t eat and I don"t feel like moving. And when they do go away, I feel week for acouple of days. My 2 older kids 16 & 14 get by o.k. But it is hard on the 3 year old. I just hope that as I get older they will go away. People have tolded me that sometimes they do. I just pray and ask God to help me get though it. This is alot of help to talk to other people who feel the same way. Have a Happy New Years and here"s to a new year without PAD &
Hi Mechelle, I was reading your post and your description of your headaches caught my attention. Have you been to the doctor and explained how bad your suffering with these headaches?? This IMO, is more than a tension or stress related headache……sounds like a migraine. I suffer from migraines, my last one lasted two or three days, I get incredibly nauseous and can`t eat or drink, I need quiet( a joke with a 4 year old) and no lights. I can`t concentrate and it hurts to talk, can`t drive either, and I usually end up anxious because the pain is so intense. There are many new meds for migraines, you should really press your doctor on this issue, tylenol or aspirin doesn`t cut it with migraines…. I white-knuckle my pain, because I am a med-phobic, strangely enough, since being on Paxil I have been having them much less……which makes me quite happy!! Hope you are feeling better soon, and remember there is no reason to suffer with these headaches!! Jackie 
) Love is as much of an object as an obsession, everybody wants it, everybody seeks it, but few ever achieve it, those who do will cherish it, be lost in it, and among all.. never…never forget it.
I suffer from migraines, my last one lasted two or three days, snipped I white-knuckle my pain, because I am a med-phobic, strangely enough, since being on Paxil I have been having them much less……which makes me quite happy!! Jackie )
Nothing strange about that Jackie. The newer migraine meds affect the brain’s serotonin pathways, although in a slightly different way to SSRIs. Ian
My wife also suffers from severe migraines and has tried dozens of meds with little or no success, except for one. Amitriptyline is the only thing that has ever worked for her, but it takes weeks to kick in and stop the migraines. YMMV but have watched her suffer for years and have never seen her feeling so good – she takes only 25 mg/day. Also it was prescriber by a neurologist who has seen more success with this than any of the new "wonder" drugs for migraines. I wish you lots of luck in finding a remedy. Purple Panic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Andi5555 I am so sorry to hear that you feel the way I do. The headaches get so bad that I spend 2 or 3 days in the bed. No one understands., they think it"s a small headache. I have to be in a dark room with no sound. I can"t eat and I don"t feel like moving. And when they do go away, I feel week for acouple of days. My 2 older kids 16 & 14 get by o.k. But it is hard on the 3 year old. I just hope that as I get older they will go away. People have tolded me that sometimes they do. I just pray and ask God to help me get though it. This is alot of help to talk to other people who feel the same way. Have a Happy New Years and here"s to a new year without PAD & Hi Mechelle, I was reading your post and your description of your headaches caught my attention. Have you been to the doctor and explained how bad your suffering with these headaches?? This IMO, is more than a tension or stress related headache……sounds like a migraine. I suffer from migraines, my last one lasted two or three days, I get incredibly nauseous and can`t eat or drink, I need quiet( a joke with a 4 year old) and no lights. I can`t concentrate and it hurts to talk, can`t drive either, and I usually end up anxious because the pain is so intense. There are many new meds for migraines, you should really press your doctor on this issue, tylenol or aspirin doesn`t cut it with migraines…. I white-knuckle my pain, because I am a med-phobic, strangely enough, since being on Paxil I have been having them much less……which makes me quite happy!! Hope you are feeling better soon, and remember there is no reason to suffer with these headaches!! Jackie ) Love is as much of an object as an obsession, everybody wants it, everybody seeks it, but few ever achieve it, those who do will cherish it, be lost in it, and among all.. never…never forget it.
I know exactly what you are going through. I also have three children and anxiety is ruining my life. I haven’t been to work in three weeks because it has gotten so bad. The bills are mounting and I still don’t feel up to going back. I can’t even get through the grocery store yet I just want to feel normal again. I’m learning to deal with the attacks right when they start..but sometimes they are much stronger than me. Those are the ones that worry me as far as returning to work goes. I want my kids to enjoy their lives and I want to be a part of that. There are times I just feel like giving up, but I can’t because of them. They want to go to movies and I always have to make some excuse up because I don’t want them to know that their mother can’t stand to venture too far from home. The worst part is that home is starting to make me crazy because I really need to get out more…….but my anxiety doesn’t allow that all too often. All I can do is just pray this thing will go away and I can get my life back. I’m going to fight to get my life back…it may be the hardest thing I’ll ever have to do…..but what other choice do I have???.
I understand, and i am sorry to see you go through this too. I am also a mother of two with my boyfriend of 10 years. I have had anxieties for the 10years accompanied with panic attacks just recently in the past month. I am agoraphobic and can’t drive at the time, but will again, soon i am hoping. I am depressed alot too, but i think of my kids and that is why i am here for them. If it means dealing with anxiety daily i will do it for them and for me to get better soon. You must trust in the Lord and look for strength and guidance and direction, you will find it and you will be happy again, you must believe that.
I feel for you. My daughter has panic attacks. It started when she was ten. She didnt want to go to school. It got so bad she dint want to go anywhere. She had to be with me at all times. Shes been on Zoloft. Shes happy back at school. She still has episodes. Shell make plans to go to the mall and then cancel at the last minute.Sometimes shell go and sometimes she wont.
I am a 33 year old married mother of 3. And I have anxiety attacks and depression, I also suffer from migraines that leave me sick for days. Sometimes I don:t want to face the world, This is hard for my husband to understand, And even harded on the kids. I take medication Zoloft.Xanax andAlprazolam Plus St. John Wort. Hopeing something will help. Everytime I have a pain I think I am dieing. I can"t sleep at night. And I am up all alone, which makes it worst. I want to be happy and enjoy life. My doctor (family) tells me I am to young for the other medications. But I need help. I can"t go on like this. I would like a piece of mind. And maybe for someone to understand want I am going though. Does anyone have any answers? I guess it"s been harder because both of my brothers have pass away. and I only have my husband,kids and my mother. People think you can just jump up and be happy. But it doesn"t work that way for me. help.
Dear Jm, I too am a mother of 4 boys and I started having anxiety in august while driving my kids to our local rec. center. Since then i went to my family doctor for a number of test because i thought i was having a heart problem. we could never find anything and her dignoses was panic/anxiety. she gave me pills that made me hyper and i thought i was going to loose my mind. so my husband found a pysc. to help me he put me on xanax and imipramine to help control this. i still have these rapid heart beats and wake in the middle of the night and still cant accept that it is anxiety. but i am trying. My pill are lessening the symptoms and making the attacks much less, but it was 3:00am when i woke with this heart racing. maybe you just need an other type of med to help you. I hate to have to rely on meds, but i couldnt leave my house and still cant drive very far. crazy I know. I hope you know you are not a lone there are a lot of us out there. Even if this didnt help which i hope it did .
Hi all, Unless and/or until a medical breakthrough occurs regarding finding and fixing the part of my brain/body that results in panic disorder, I expect to be on medications the rest of my life. I have discussed this with my health care providers, my yack therapist and my behavioral modification therapist. All are in agreement that this is a very reasonable assumption. Am I worried about addiction? No, not after some initial concern and a good sit-down with my docs to discuss my fears and gain valuable current information regarding the disorder(s) I have. I have taken the same medications 6 x daily for 15 years. My dosage has never needed to be increased. I know if I were to discontinue my medications, my brain/body would likely react very violently, however I have no plans at this time to discontinue my regime. My medications are not 100% effective, however it is the best for me at this point in time. If a new medication comes along that my docs feel might give me more relief, I will do everything in my power to go through the changing process in a safe, informed manner with medical support. I do get upset at times when I see books, articles, etc. stating that a particular medication is highly addictive, highly dangerous, and should be used sparingly and discontinued quickly, if used at all. I become downright enraged when a new book hits the bookstores describing in gory detail one person’s experience while on a certain medication; reminds me of the book "I’m Dancing As Fast As I Can" back in the ’70s, about one woman’s experience with Valium. The word got out via the media and soon doctors were rapidly back-peddling the dispension of this medication, much to the detriment of the many, many people this medication helped. I worry somewhat that this will happen with the medications I am taking; one bestseller or a few articles can wreak havoc for me and others who are genuinely finding some relief. In no way do I believe that medication is the *right or only answer* for everyone suffering from panic disorder, nor do I believe the medications I happen to take are the only medications to offer relief. I do question why addiction has become the hallmark of whether a medication or combo of medications will be offered and for what duration. I feel deeply that the anti-drug campaigns; the "war on drugs," and "just say no to drugs" have spilled over into the area of authentic medical relief to ease suffering from neurobiological disorders, as well as many other afflictions (cancer readily comes to mind). The reason for this post is the many e-mails I have received stating I *must* discontinue the meds I now take because they are addictive, dangerous, wrong, etc., that meds are not the answer, etc. I can agree that the meds I currently take are not *for everyone* and that meds may not be the answer *in all cases of panic disorder*. Another reason I have posted today is the confusion I read daily here in asap regarding medications, the fear (very legitimate) surrounding medications, and the added suffering this confusion brings to already stressed lives. I feel wanting to know everything possible from fellow sufferers (who better to ask?) about medications and sharing = a wise consumer. I also feel saying that medications have little or no place in treating panic disorder = playing doctor without a license and adding unnecessary anxiety. Ultimately, the decision to take/not take medication and, if medication is an option, dosage/duration, is the responsibility of the sufferer and his/her health care provider(s). This requires trust, up-to-date information from reliable sources, and a desire among all parties for the sufferer to be provided whatever relief is available. Blanket statements can be very detrimental, especially in areas where there is already much confusion, such as panic disorder and medication. This is *my* opinion. Your comments, opinions are welcome. gisela angelina
[snip] Someone recently said that Xanax tasted very bitter and "it would have to be one hell of a panic attack to put up with that".
That was me. I don’t want to say any absolutes, but -that person doesn’t know what a panic attack is-.
You are contradicting yourself. Saying that I don’t know what a panic attack is *is* most definitely an absolute. On what other basis, other than what I said about Xanax being bitter, and my sarcastic statement, do you make this judgement? I’ve been taking pills for 31 years.
And I have been taking pills for three. Although my experience with panic and anxiety is markedly shorter than yours, by about 28 years, it is still the most hellacious experience I have ever had to go through. Please don’t tell me I don’t know what a panic attack is. — ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` Luis Echeverria ` Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` Does that make you a woman?" ` ` Orange County, CA ` that make you a table?" ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `
~~~~a post that says it all and says it well, snipped~~~~~~ Ultimately, the decision to take/not take medication and, if medication is an option, dosage/duration, is the responsibility of the sufferer and his/her health care provider(s). This requires trust, up-to-date information from reliable sources, and a desire among all parties for the sufferer to be provided whatever relief is available. Blanket statements can be very detrimental, especially in areas where there is already much confusion, such as panic disorder and medication. This is *my* opinion. Your comments, opinions are welcome. gisela angelina
Terrific post Gisela. I find it very interesting that on asap and other support groups that discuss so called "mental" disorders, there is always ongoing discussion, diatribes, name calling, etc., about the use of meds. On the other support groups that deal with disorders that are recognized as definitely physical, the use of the same meds doesn’t even raise an eyebrow! No-one posts messages saying to the man who uses benzos so he can get out of his wheelchair for an hour or two a day that he should quit using them, as he’s just masking his problem with drugs. That if he just stood up and TOLD himself he could walk, his disorder would go away! No-one posts dire warnings about how he’s going to get addicted to the meds because they let him walk a little bit and hurt a little less. Never a word about using cognitive therapy either! Xanax has, with some help from Prozac, cured my PD – hopefully permanently. If I believed half of what is said about meds and PD by the nay-sayers, I’d be worried sick about becoming a junkie by now. I use Xanax to help control dystonia and essential tremor, with the enthusiastic encouragement of my doctor and specialist. Not a word about addiction mentioned. Yet the same doctor was concerned about addiction when I asked for Xanax for PD!!!! Interesting isn’t it? Mally :)