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I found some info on generic 6MP. Apparently a couple of companies are now manufacturing it: http://www.thinkpharm.com/pharma/preview/detail/index.php?searchtype=…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD

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Thanks for your replies; I feel much better now that I know others have received the same thing.  In addition to now being diamond-shaped, these are an off-white kinda yellowish colour.  The manufacturer of these is Prometheus the bottle says, and I wondered if this was the same Prometheus Labs in CA that does the tests; or at least affiliated. Haven’t started taking the new pills yet, but hopefully will have the same results as Deb – no change Thanks once again! Christine CD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have the pharmacy split them. Mike Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD There are at least two companies making generic Purinethol now.  My Rx bottle now reads Mercaptopurine instead of Purinethol.  The pills are still round and white but now have numbers instead of the Purinethol label. They are also harder to split in half… —john. Drop PANTS before emailing. An education teaches you that you don’t know everything. Intelligence means you know where to find the information you are lacking. mgbio

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Hello!  I’ve been taking 6mp for awhile now and when I received my last rx through the mail they were also the diamond shaped ones.  They are a generic form of them and cost a lot less.   Quincy

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Have the pharmacy split them. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD There are at least two companies making generic Purinethol now.  My Rx bottle now reads Mercaptopurine instead of Purinethol.  The pills are still round and white but now have numbers instead of the Purinethol label. They are also harder to split in half…                                                    —john.

Drop PANTS before emailing. An education teaches you that you don’t know everything. Intelligence means you know where to find the information you are lacking. mgbio

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Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD

There are at least two companies making generic Purinethol now.  My Rx bottle now reads Mercaptopurine instead of Purinethol.  The pills are still round and white but now have numbers instead of the Purinethol label. They are also harder to split in half…                                                         —john.

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Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD

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Same as my situation. The pharmicist told me about it beforehand. They now have generic or just some other brand 6MP. It costs a lot less. I haven’t noticed any differences. Debs Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD

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I picked up a prescription of 6-MP last week and it was the same, round, white pills I have always had. — Paul Visit our photo albums at http://www.laflammefamily.ca To reply, replace "deadspam.com" with "laflammefamily.ca" — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hope everyone is doing well; sorry I haven’t been posting lately, but have a new job and not much ‘puter time. I just got my latest 6-MP rx through the mail as usual.  Instead of the regular round, white pills, these look totally different.  They are diamond-shaped and a different colour.  Anybody else had these?  Haven’t had a chance yet to take one into a pharmacy to check on it, but thought I’d check with you all.  TIA Christine CD

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Does anyone have experience with taking Celexa vs. Prozac?  Thanks so much.

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Does anyone have experience with taking Celexa vs. Prozac?  Thanks so much.

I tried Prozac once a long time ago, but I had to stop after a few days. Prozac made me extremely anxious. Celexa is the best SSRI I have taken. I just switched from Zoloft to Celexa, and Celexa is equally or more effective as an anti-depressant with fewer and milder side effects than Zoloft, which is already a lot better than Prozac.

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It’s been about two months since I’ve been on my meds, and my anxiety symptoms have pretty much disappeared except for one thing. When I go out I constantly watch my bag (which I put my water in) afraid that someone will slip me a mickey. (And at work too,etc.) Then at home I obsess about the household chemicals, afraid that they will get into my mouth or eyes. Does it sound like ocd? I’m about to go up to 50mgs of Zoloft on Wednesday, and hopefully this should help.

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Nicole wrote…. It’s been about two months since I’ve been on my meds, and my anxiety symptoms have pretty much disappeared except for one thing. When I go out I constantly watch my bag (which I put my water in) afraid that someone will slip me a mickey. (And at work too,etc.) Then at home I obsess about the household chemicals, afraid that they will get into my mouth or eyes. Does it sound like ocd? I’m about to go up to 50mgs of Zoloft on Wednesday, and hopefully this should help.

Dear Nicole, Obsessive thoughts are common with anxiety disorders and they can be part of OCD……only your doctor can tell you what yours are. I`ve had what my psychologist calls OC tendencies, so I can relate to your thoughts. Increasing your Zoloft dose might address this more effectively. Since being on Paxil, obsessive thoughts are gone for the most part. Glad to hear you are doing better ) Jackie ~*~Begin doing what you want to do now. We are not living in eternity. We have only this moment, sparkling like a star

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Does it sound like ocd?

no not really it sounds like you are habituated to negative scary thoughts of someone hurting you or you being in a position at the mercy of others control-I would say you tend to be perfectionsitic and like even need to be in control but I could be wrong this is cyber space if the thoughts are intrusive and you cannot stop them once you make some controlled observations ie: you check the seal on the water bottle and are satisfied it is sealed etc-then this is a type of obsessive thinking and the meds and some therapy will hopefuly help LM

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 7 Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-panic Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com It’s been about two months since I’ve been on my meds, and my anxiety symptoms have pretty much disappeared except for one thing. When I go out I constantly watch my bag (which I put my water in) afraid that someone will slip me a mickey. (And at work too,etc.) Then at home I obsess about the household chemicals, afraid that they will get into my mouth or eyes. Does it sound like ocd? I’m about to go up to 50mgs of Zoloft on Wednesday, and hopefully this should help.

 Hi Nicole,  Does this worry about your bottle continue, or are there times when you are not so worried about it? We’ve a house full of anxiety people here , and at different times some of us have had an obssessing spell, which stops, while others (me) still obsess a bit, but to no great extent. Fear of being hurt by chemicals, even tho there is no way they could actually get onto you, is an irrational after-trace of the major anxiety you were experiencing. I found similar thoughts, but didnt get really upset by them, as I knew they were extremely unlikely. That rationalising did not stop them immediately though. Eventually they did drift away. After many years of meds, I’ve found this symptom to have dissappeared.

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Geoff, Thanks for the medical backing.  I’ve made similar statements to my GI about pain relief; it’s nice to have a bit more knowledge to back it up.  So far I’ve not had problems with pain relief, i.e. getting the right scripts, but you never know when that can change.  mgbio CD Class of ‘99 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – About 6 years ago I had open heart surgery, fortunately my IBD went into remission (any connection I wonder?) until I recovered. After the acute pain phase  I was prescribed M-or-phi-ne Sulphate, these were coated, slow release tablets. I had no problems of any kind, no I add-ict-ion, no withdrawal, In fact I still have some unused. I have been tols by several doctors that provided there is a reason for taking medication, eg PAIN, addiction is not a problem. The brain associates the medication only with pain relief, so no pain to relieve, no association, so no craving. I’ve found this to be true. I take di-hydrocedeine when necessary, which I am told is metabilised to M-or–ph-ine in the body and am certainly not addicted. Geoff   I do not want to have people come into this conversation to harass. bother, and preach, it is a question for pain management. I had to put this first line in to keep the ones out that don’t belong, and search for key words. I am going to break up this work, M-eth-a-done. Has anyone used this for pain management? My doctor is giving me the option of trying it with morp-hine (again-hyphenated to keep the searches out of here). Thanx. Please no preaching, only experiences for pain management, preferably for those with chronic pain, and intestinal disease. stevenscott —-

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About 6 years ago I had open heart surgery, fortunately my IBD went into remission (any connection I wonder?) until I recovered. After the acute pain phase  I was prescribed M-or-phi-ne Sulphate, these were coated, slow release tablets. I had no problems of any kind, no I add-ict-ion, no withdrawal, In fact I still have some unused. I have been tols by several doctors that provided there is a reason for taking medication, eg PAIN, addiction is not a problem. The brain associates the medication only with pain relief, so no pain to relieve, no association, so no craving. I’ve found this to be true. I take di-hydrocedeine when necessary, which I am told is metabilised to M-or–ph-ine in the body and am certainly not addicted. Geoff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   I do not want to have people come into this conversation to harass. bother, and preach, it is a question for pain management. I had to put this first line in to keep the ones out that don’t belong, and search for key words. I am going to break up this work, M-eth-a-done. Has anyone used this for pain management? My doctor is giving me the option of trying it with morp-hine (again-hyphenated to keep the searches out of here). Thanx. Please no preaching, only experiences for pain management, preferably for those with chronic pain, and intestinal disease. stevenscott —-

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eMi, I’m on the "stronger" type of med that you talk about in your "p.s.".   It has worked for me for 5 years now, and at the same dose no less.  I see an anaesthesiologist in a pain management clinic.  They have been wonderful to me and sooo helpful.  I have my life back after being in constant pain for 32 years!  I can even ride my horse more often than not ) Linda ~~~~~~~

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on Duragesic patches and Oxycontin b4 my surgery…I found they worked great…..made the pain bearable and I was able to function without being too loopy…..they deliver a time released dose of med and you stay comfortable for the time rather than the up and down sort of pain with the other drugs.            eMi P.S. there is also a stronger time released type of morphine related to the oxycontin …I highly suggest you talk to the pharmacist…that is where I learned about the latest pain management meds.

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methadone is used to treat  heroin addecits  thats the  most iv’e heard a bout it  good luck

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Did you get any irriatation from the glue used on the patch? Mike I was on Duragesic patches and Oxycontin b4 my surgery…I found they worked great…..made the pain bearable and I was able to function without being too loopy…..they deliver a time released dose of med and you stay comfortable for the time rather than the up and down sort of pain with the other drugs.           eMi P.S. there is also a stronger time released type of morphine related to the oxycontin …I highly suggest you talk to the pharmacist…that is where I learned about the latest pain management meds.

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HI ITS ME AMY AGAIN, THANKS TO ALL  WHO HELPED ME BEFORE THIS CHAT LINE IS A GOD SENT, ANYWAY IM NOW ON ZOLOFT AND STILL WEENING OFF PROZAC, I FEEL SOOOO SHITTY TIRED, HEART PALPS AND DIZZY, IS THIS NORMAL AND HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THESE   SYMTOMS  AMD WHEN DOES IT GET BETTER THANKS TO ALL

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HI ITS ME AMY AGAIN, THANKS TO ALL  WHO HELPED ME BEFORE THIS CHAT LINE IS A GOD SENT, ANYWAY IM NOW ON ZOLOFT AND STILL WEENING OFF PROZAC, I FEEL SOOOO SHITTY TIRED, HEART PALPS AND DIZZY, IS THIS NORMAL AND HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THESE   SYMTOMS  AMD WHEN DOES IT GET BETTER THANKS TO ALL

Are you taking a benzo…I got tired from Xanax, but not Zoloft…The heart palps and dizziness are signs of anxiety…I would suspect that perhaps you have  the classic additional anxiety that you get when starting a new AD…I had tremors and other side-effects with Zoloft that increased my anxiety…This went away for the most part inside of a week, and continued to disapear in the following weeks… Best, — Charles Phipps

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Dear Brenda, Please tell me what it is about meds (Xanax in particular) that you are afraid of? Perhaps we could offer some help in that direction. I have been reading all of your posts and I am so distressed for you. I posted you awhile back about the safety of Xanax and offered some relaxation and breathing techniques. Have you tried them? I guess I just cannot understand how a medphobic can take Zoloft with all the anxiety it causes you and refuse to take Xanax which could ease or eliminate your suffering. Why do you fear Xanax so much? And I sincerely believe that it is your fear of it that increased your anxiety when you took it. Just my opinion, of course. I just cannot stand to see someone suffer when they do not have to. Worried about you, Kathryn

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WEll last night I upped my Zoloft from 12.5 to 19mg.(big deal). Woke up at 6am took .25 Xanax went back to bed for about 2 hours. Here is the question. I am med phobic and have not upped my Xanax to .50mg 3x day. Still take .25.My main symptom is constant and I do mean hyperventilation and shortness of breath. Today is day 15 on the Zoloft. Well this afternoon I decided to take .37mg of Xanax (a 25mg pill and a half). Within 10 minutes my anxiety went up. Tried to distract myself then I felt the Xanax kicking in. I get real groggy BUT THE BREATHING STILL IS SHORT.I was afraid to up my dose cux what if it doesnt help the breathing then I will feel hopeless. I am still kinda shook up and depressed and afraid.Please tell me Im doing something wrong or this is just normal for day 15 upping the dosage and being med phobic. Brenda

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Kathryn I think that my biggest fear of taking the Xanax is that it wouldnt work. Now I started off with .25. My problem is my breathing  (shortness of breath ans hyprventilation). I was hoping the Xanax would help be I really doesnt that much. It may take the edge off of the anxiety but the breathing  problem remains. Also did you read my ost where yesterday was the first day that I upped my Zoloft from 12.5 to 19mg. I will post about that later. Now another fear I battle is that I have always hated lose of control. And when I first took the Xanax I would get very groggy,symptoms still there but very groggy. I would have bad thoughts on what if I cant breathe and am too groggy to breathe. That wont happen in Jesus name but the thoughts still come. Now when I wake up at 5 or 6am and take .25mg Xanax I can go back to sleep. I dont know maybe Ill have to upped the Xanax gradually. The pdoc want me to take .50 3 times a day. Brenda

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Kathryn I think that my biggest fear of taking the Xanax is that it wouldnt work.

Brenda, it is possibly, but highly unlikely that xanax won’t work for you – Xanax can calm an elephant!  But, I guarantee that if you don’t take it, it definitely won’t do a thing. Now I started off with .25. My problem is my breathing  (shortness of breath ans hyprventilation). I was hoping the Xanax would help be I really doesnt that much. It may take the edge off of the anxiety but the breathing  problem remains.

Xanax can lessen your anxiety, but it isn’t a cure all. I suspect that your hyperventilating/shortness of breath has become ingrained to the point were its become an almost automatic response. Xanax cannot undo that, no med can. But breathing exercises like those previously mentioned by another poster should.  The bottom  line in this Brenda is that drugs aren’t magic. They can help a great deal, but you have to make an effort too.  Sorry, but if this was easy, we wouldn’t all be here. Also did you read my ost where yesterday was the first day that I upped my Zoloft from 12.5 to 19mg. I will post about that later. Now another fear I battle is that I have always hated lose of control. And when I first took the Xanax I would get very groggy,symptoms still there but very groggy. I would have bad thoughts on what if I cant breathe and am too groggy to breathe.

Okay, firstly the grogginess will diminish as your body gets used to the Xanax. Secondly, Xanax won’t stop you breathing, even if you pass out. In fact you will probably breath better. What is happening at the moment is that the conscious parts of your brain are overriding the auto settings. Left to its own devises the autonomous system would be doing a better job than you are!!   Even when knocked unconscious most people continue to breath.   The benzos are very safe drugs, even when taken in enormous overdose quantities most people just sleep them off. That wont happen in Jesus name but the thoughts still come. Now when I wake up at 5 or 6am and take .25mg Xanax I can go back to sleep. I dont know maybe Ill have to upped the Xanax gradually. The pdoc want me to take .50 3 times a day. Brenda

tackle the increase at a pace you can cope with, but be assured, the meds won’t kill you, drug companies find it cheaper to keep repeat customers rather than continually having to find new ones!!!!. Take care Ian

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One of my fears about taking my ativan is that it wont work.  When i am in the middle of a PA, I always have the comforting thought of "At least I can always take my pill".  My fear is what if i take it and it still doesnt control my attack and my racing thoughts.  My biggest fear is that I will need to go to the hopital because I will not be able to reign myself back in.  Do you ever feel that way?  D

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OMG that is the biggest fear that I have with my Xanax and alot of the time it doesnt help me that much because of the extra anxiety I have. However I suppose to be taking .50 3x a day and I only take .25 sometimes twice. But I couldnt believe somebody else has the same fear though. Brenda

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One of my fears about taking my ativan is that it wont work.  When i am in the middle of a PA, I always have the comforting thought of "At least I can always take my pill".  My fear is what if i take it and it still doesnt control my attack and my racing thoughts.  My biggest fear is that I will need to go to the hopital because I will not be able to reign myself back in.  Do you ever feel that way?  D

Although, reports of antidepressants suddenly failing to work are becoming more common, its rare for his to happen with benzodiazepines. What may happen is that you begin requiring higher doses to achieve the same levels of control. But, most with anx/pan seem to gradually take/need less, not more benzos. Ian

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Ratzenfratzen ISP lost (or did receive) about two days worth of my newsgroup messages. So I had to do a deja search to find out what I missed. <grrrr I think that my biggest fear of taking the Xanax is that it wouldnt work. Now I

It certainly will not work if you do not take it. I know if I tried only .25 I wouldn’t notice a thing. I must take from .5 to 1mg to have any relief at all. There have been days when I have taken up to 2mgs at once. started off with .25. My problem is my breathing  (shortness of breath ans hyprventilation). I was hoping the Xanax would help be I really doesnt that much. It may take the edge off of the anxiety but the breathing  problem

Have you seen a doctor to make certain that your breathing problem is definitely physical? If it is not physical, that is, one of the many symptoms of anxiety and panic then Xanax can definitely help by letting you be calmer. When you are calmer you can breathe easier. I hope you have ruled out any physical cause such as asthma, though. remains. Also did you read my ost where yesterday was the first day that I upped my Zoloft from 12.5 to 19mg. I will post about that later. Now another

I read about it. Pretty gutsy! Good work! fear I battle is that I have always hated lose of control. And when I first took the Xanax I would get very groggy,symptoms still there but very groggy. I

The grogginess passes quickly (MUCH quicker that the side effects of Zoloft!) if you continue taking it. Maybe the symptoms are still there because of your fear of the grogginess or the Xanax not working. I hate the feeling of losing control, too. Which is why I don’t drink anymore. Hardly. But grogginess is not loss of control. When you are in a high anxiety state you are way too alert, sensitive to every little thing and your mind races ahead of you. Xanax can put the brakes on all of that and the drowsiness you feel just may be your body saying to you, “Thank goodness! Now maybe we can get some rest!“ would have bad thoughts on what if I cant breathe and am too groggy to breathe. That wont happen in Jesus name but the thoughts still come. Now when I wake up

Too groggy to breathe? Impossible in anyone’s name! In fact, I can guarantee you that you will breathe BETTER when you allow yourself to sleep. I have said it before and I will say it again that our bodies function quite nicely when we give it over to the brain’s automatic control system. Better, in fact! We muck things up by over thinking. We all just think too much!  You know, the Divine Creator gave us pretty nifty bodies and will take care of them for us just fine when we give them over to sleep. For that matter, the Creator gave us Xanax through providing the plant valerian and us the intellect to use it. at 5 or 6am and take .25mg Xanax I can go back to sleep. I dont know maybe Ill have to upped the Xanax gradually. The pdoc want me to take .50 3 times a day.

Up it as you wish. But do it. I want to hear some success stories from you! BTW, I take Xanax .5 every four hours (that’s about 4 to 5 times a day) PLUS I take 1 mg of Klonopin (another benzo) at bedtime. I have the okay from my pdoc to take extra of either if I need to. Which happens, but rarely. BTW, my husband has mentioned to me that I breathe slower and deeper when I am asleep. I was very happy to hear that because I still have to work on breathing that way (the CORRECT way) when I am awake. Have you asked your hubby how your breathing is when you sleep? If not, ask! I wager he will tell you the same thing. To MissMaine7, Hi. Have you ever taken an Ativan at the onset of a PA? If so, how much? Did it not work at all, work a little, or work well? Love and blessings to all, Kathryn

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Does anyone here have any experience taking Effexor for ADHD?  My doctor just prescribed it.  I am taking 75mg per day.  I was taking Zoloft for depression, and he thought the Effexor would help with both the depression and the ADHD. Thanks, Phil Zerr

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Does anyone here have any experience taking Effexor for ADHD?  My doctor just prescribed it.  I am taking 75mg per day.  I was taking Zoloft for depression, and he thought the Effexor would help with both the depression and the ADHD. Thanks, Phil Zerr

About 1 month ago the same question was asked.  If this thread is not available to you check dejanews.com and search for threads on effexor.

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Hi.  yes i take zoloft and effexor along with some other meds for depression and hypomania.  they all work well.  i just have to remember to take the darn med’s daily.  otherwise all i can say is try it and see how it goes.  i have a complaint about my meds.  i am also an artist.  i can’t stand the flat line feeling (no mania)  i don’t feel energetic, creative, and grandiose with ideas (laugh).  i can’t sit still and study for my prof. exam.  i am so restless. not because the meds don’t work but because i don’t take my meds ON TIME or DAILY. it’s like i get too busy.  crazy huh?  Don’t feel bad, we’ll all find our balance… soon i hope.

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Hi.  yes i take zoloft and effexor along with some other meds for depression and hypomania.  they all work well.  i just have to remember to take the darn med’s daily.  otherwise all i can say is try it and see how it goes.  i have a complaint about my meds.  i am also an artist.  i can’t stand the flat line feeling (no mania)  i don’t feel energetic, creative, and grandiose with ideas (laugh).  i can’t sit still and study for my prof. exam.  i am so restless. not because the meds don’t work but because i don’t take my meds ON TIME or DAILY. it’s like i get too busy.  crazy huh?  Don’t feel bad, we’ll all find our balance… soon i hope.

You keep forgetting because of the flat feeling.  You don’t like it. From my experience, the SSRIs – zoloft – may cause this feeling.  I recently tried an SSRI that is new to the U.S. – Celexa  - which made me feel like sleeping all day.  I guess it reduced my impulsivity, but it increased my inattention.  Paxil was also useless for me for several similar reasons.  The Effexor seemed to be very helpful without the flat feeling, but I developed such miserable urinary tract irritation that I could not sleep.  Fortunately, for you, this side effect is uncommon.   In summary, my experience is that Effexor, which is not a SSRI,  is more effective in ADD treatmant than SSRIs.  However, for some people SSRIs are effective and often SSRIs are used in conjunction with other drugs to treat ADD.  I would suggest that overmedication with SSRI’s is not good for an artist.  It’s ok for an artist to be a little hypomanic.  It’s far better than losing one’s creativity.  Just don’t be tempted to be manic.  Talk about a rebound effect… You should discuss your problem with meds. with your doc. so that you will take your medication as prescribed rather than self-medicate.  Perhaps less Zoloft and more Effexor would work better.  Perhaps your overall dose is too high.  Your failure to follow dosing instructions could be showing that your ADD symptoms are not being well treated, also.   I certainly can not tell you, but you should think about these possibilities. George

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I just started taking effexor for depression.  I quit taking paxil and last year I was on zoloft.  I am not sure how I feel about it yet.  Would enjoy talking with you about it.

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HomemakerJ wrote:

I thought walnut trees were the ones choked everything else out because of their high whatever (acidity?) so that nothing will grow under them. I know they’re the ones that shed so many leaves you are never done raking them.  I’m not sure how people friendly they are if they’re in your own back yard.

Well, actually I was sort of thinking of them being in orchards.  Maybe instead of coca in South America.  But I don’t know where they grow well.  I know we have them in Northern California, but I don’t think I have heard of them growing in dry arid areas (where I think even olive trees can survive).  But we have a ‘growing’ market in olive oils – why not in walnut oils (especially if they come in different grades…sounds yuppie enough to me). I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well.  But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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On 2 Nov 1998 06:02:10 GMT, hypo…@aol.com (Hypoint) wrote:

I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well.  But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood?

It most certainly is in Europe. The wood has beautiful patterns. I think it’s more of a forest tree as they are very big and slow growing.  Of course, these days I’d have thought dwarfing/fast growing root stocks would be available if walnuts were considered commercial enough! Bestishes Joanna

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Joanna wrote:

(Hypoint) wrote: I think its olive trees that ‘take over’, but it could be walnuts as well. But isn’t walnut a valued hardwood? It most certainly is in Europe. The wood has beautiful patterns. I think it’s more of a forest tree as they are very big and slow growing.  Of course, these days I’d have thought dwarfing/fast growing root stocks would be available if walnuts were considered commercial enough! Bestishes

I’ve seen dwarf fruit trees, but I don’t recall ever seeing any dwarf nut trees, but I never really looked. In California, walnut trees could very well increase in value commercially if indeed they provide an oil that is both considered beneficial and able to be produced in various grades.  California is experiencing a re-surgence of olive tree plantings and lots of varieties of flavored olive oils are showing up in all sorts of stores.  So I wonder what walnut oil could be flavored with? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Valery, I use Natural Progesterone and supplements of Magnesium and Vit B-6 for my strong peri-symptoms.  I have used them for the past 2 1/2 years and have been able to use it alone instead of Imatrex for migraines and Xanax and Zoloft for anxiety and depression associated with my peri.  Feel free to visit my web site at http://www.expage.com/page/hotflash as well as the Hotflash Bulletin Board, theres lots of great articles there on alternatives. Itchy http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb129876 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Valery wrote:

Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week  You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms?  Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else?  Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately.  Took some Valerian compound yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information!  Even though reading through it makes me hungry    :  )   Can’t wait to try the Tapenade!  Sounds yummy! Val

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Itchy wrote:

supplements of Magnesium and Vit B-6 for my strong peri-symptoms.  

Val, I think a similar post is what triggered my research into the food sources for various supplements.  If you search for Chicken using DejaNews you will find a recipe or two for Chicken with Beans that gives you nutritional sources of both Magnesium and B-6.  I will also see if I can round up a few more. I feel since we have to eat everyday anyway, we might as well figure out how to do it in a way that nourishes us a little better than if we didn’t put much thought into it. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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The URL Itchy offered up leads to her commercial web site. While she may be posting out of a genuine desire to be helpful, it’s important for folks to know she sells the supplements she uses. Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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Hypoint wrote:

… California is experiencing a re-surgence of olive tree plantings and lots of varieties of flavored olive oils are showing up in all sorts of stores.  So I wonder what walnut oil could be flavored with?

The flavored varieties of olive oil usually use the "light" (late pressing?) olive oils, which have so little flavor of their own that they can handle being doctored with garlic, chilis, etc. Flavored olive oils are classic marketing success story: With virgin and extra-virgin olive oil gaining favor in the American market, the olive growers found a way to dress up the "less desirable" "pure" quality oil, call it a specialty product and jack up the price. Walnut oil, like extra-virgin olive oil, has a fairly robust flavor of its own; if you wanted to flavor it, you’d either have to filter the walnut taste out, or add flavors that went well with walnut. Hm. I’ll have to ponder that for a while… –Pat Kight figuring "walnut chocolate oil" is probably right out … kig…@peak.org

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Vlhb002 wrote:

The URL Itchy offered up leads to her commercial web site. While she may be posting out of a genuine desire to be helpful, it’s important for folks to know she sells the supplements she uses.

… and that the "natural progesterone" products, in particular, are the subject of a fair amount of controversy over whether they (a) contain any significant level of progesterone at all and (b) work, except in the sense that placebos sometimes "work." –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org

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I hope someone else can come up with some good non commercial herb websites for Valery, Here is one that mentions scientific studies on Ginkgo biloba .  None of the other herbs usually mentioned for menopause are listed in this article. http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter25.htm Herbal medicines, an evidence based look I see Maida Taylor, MD has an article on Black Cohosh http://www.hcrc.org/faqs/c/cohosh.html On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:23:20 -0500, itchy…@postoffice.swbell.net wrote:

Valery, I use Natural Progesterone

Natural Progesterone is a hormone drug and should be considered in consultation with a health professional.   It is not an herb or vitamin. For  <non commercial

information on Natural Progesterone, otc and/or

prescription, not in any particular order  we have: http://www.menopause.org/naturals.htm http://www.menopause-online.com/progestins.htm http://www.pangea.ca/~afi/volxino1/progesterone.html http://www.rxmed.com/monographs/promet.html http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/archives/96-97/97_31e.htm http://www.sma.org/smj/97aug16.htm http://www.cponline.gsm.com/scripts/fullmono/showmono.pl?mononum=562&… http://www.thelancet.com/newlancet/reg/issues/vol350no9070/news_sm35…. http://www.thelancet.com/newlancet/reg/issues/vol351no9111/research12… http://www.fda.gov/cder/approval/index.htm http://www.sciam.com/1998/0698womens/0698leibenbox1.html http://www.medscape.com/Medscape/womens.health/1998/v03.n05/wh5646.pe… http://www.hcrc.org/contrib/taylor/taylor.html http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/wildyam.html And probably many more. My point being there is no reason to consult with itchybaun about the use of this product. ( Medscape and The Lancet interactive require free registration for access) But rather than slogging through those urls, any good menopause book will have information on hormone drugs, including natural progesterone. I recommend Dr. Susan Love’s Hormone book, should be at any public library or now available in paperback. Kathryn droz…@direct.ca

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Karen and Wendy wrote (sort of): walnut oil recipes? Karen wrote:

They are lowcarb recipes, not lowfat. Also, I did get them from the web somewhere, so they are out there. Since I don’t use a free-standing newsreader, I’d have to type them in, and since this is crunch time at work, I’m just not going to do that. I’m too close to an RSI right now. I looked for it at Trader Joe’s today, and didn’t see any, so I’ll check out a health food store in Castro Valley that carries lots of food stuffs. Trader Joe’s now sells lox bits, $2.50 for 8 oz. Perfect for omelets. And for eating out of the pkg.:)

I’ll search for walnut oil recipes. Got my salmon patties at Trader Joe’s today.  Also they were demo’ing lox. Didn’t notice the lox bits – will look for them next time.  Sounds like a good thing to take to work.  Thanks. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can’t remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.]

Remembered it.   Karydthopita …. transliterally Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Wendy wrote: Karen wrote:

BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil? I can’t recommend a brand, but yes, it’s a common ‘gourmet’ oil.

Have you ever used it?? Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil?  Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3

Hain has made walnut oil for as long as I can remember. I first bought it in the 60s. It makes a very pleasant mayonnaise. Although it comes from walnuts, it’s very delicately flavored. Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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vlhb002 wrote:

Wendy asks: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil?  Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3 Hain has made walnut oil for as long as I can remember. I first bought it in the 60s. It makes a very pleasant mayonnaise. Although it comes from walnuts, it’s very delicately flavored.

Thanks, it’s now on my shopping list.  Various books recommend it when olive oil would not be appropriate and you want something more flavorful than a canola oil.  Also came across a review of a cookbook in my searchings where someone said they were  **tired** of all these recipes with olive oil, so I wanted to explore alternatives that would be as beneficial or better in some respects. Yesterday I was musing that walnut oil is probably a nice environmentally friendly crop (like olive oil, obviously).  Comes from trees which cleanse the air, probably requiring little fertilization, and no post harvest burning (except that they probably burn branches with their yearly pruning).  Do walnut trees only grow in certain types of climates?  Does anyone know? I know we have lots of groves in Northern California. Wondering where it might be good to use it as a substitute for butter or margarine in various recipes. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pat Kight wrote:

Hypoint <hypo…@aol.com wrote: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil?  Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3.  [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain  ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.] Yes, walnut oil is available in trendy supermarkets and gourmet food departments. Pricey, but delicious. Buy it in small quantities — it goes rancid fairly fast. And it’s not just for sweets — walnut oil is a *great* substitute for olive oil in vinaigrette-type salad dressings!  One of my all-time favorite salads is a mixture of really fresh greens dressed with walnut oil and balsamic vinegar and sprinkled with chopped walnuts, diced fresh pears and blue cheese!

Sounds wonderful!!  Are pears still in season? This *research project* has certainly affected me.  I don’t think I will ever be the same again.  I am sitting here eating my salmon patty that I sort of poached in my stir fry of green beans and 3 colors of bell peppers (with lots of garlic).  Then I threw in a bunch of my mediterrean olives at the end.  It tastes so good. Can’t wait to get Karen’s walnut oil recipes.  I love walnuts.  And knowing that their fat is good for the brain is great. Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Hypoint wrote:

Yesterday I was musing that walnut oil is probably a nice environmentally friendly crop (like olive oil, obviously).  Comes from trees which cleanse the air, probably requiring little fertilization, and no post harvest burning

I thought walnut trees were the ones choked everything else out because of their high whatever (acidity?) so that nothing will grow under them. I know they’re the ones that shed so many leaves you are never done raking them.  I’m not sure how people friendly they are if they’re in your own back yard. Cool Runnings, HomemakerJ

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Hypoint <hypo…@aol.com

wrote: BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil?  Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3.  [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain  ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.]

Yes, walnut oil is available in trendy supermarkets and gourmet food departments. Pricey, but delicious. Buy it in small quantities — it goes rancid fairly fast. And it’s not just for sweets — walnut oil is a *great* substitute for olive oil in vinaigrette-type salad dressings!  One of my all-time favorite salads is a mixture of really fresh greens dressed with walnut oil and balsamic vinegar and sprinkled with chopped walnuts, diced fresh pears and blue cheese! –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org

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I strongly recommend to NOT TAKE KAVA.  I had a severe reaction where my throat closed off.  My husband did the heimlach maneuver. The pill was not stuck in my throat, but put my esophagous into spasms about 2 hrs. after I took it.  I know of someone else that had the same thing happen. I work with drs. and they have had several cases that arrived in ER.  It was also written up in a medical journal. This should be taken off the market.

HELLO FROM NANCY FROM FLORIDA

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I wonder if this is what has caused my husband to have esophagus problems — severe — over the last few months?!!!  He started taking kava in July (lots of it) and, since September, has been to several doctors and the emergency room just this week because of this!  Thank you!  You may have helped diagnosed a major concern in our lives for the last two months!  He loves how the kava helps his tension, but maybe there’s an alternative.  Thank you so much for posting this information — it might help others, too!     n2…@webtv.net wrote in message <1704-363C76F…@newsd-133.iap.bryant.webtv.net

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    I strongly recommend to NOT TAKE KAVA.  I had a severe reaction where my     throat closed off.  My husband did the heimlach maneuver. The pill was     not stuck in my throat, but put my esophagous into spasms about 2 hrs.     after I took it.  I know of someone else that had the same thing happen.     I work with drs. and they have had several cases that arrived in ER.  It     was also written up in a medical journal. This should be taken off the     market.

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Karen Kay wrote in message <71ghna$n4…@samba.rahul.net

… Jane Weaver wrote…gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting. The info about gingko makes sense–that’s what it’s for! (To increase blood

flow.) I had read that it would act more like cayenne, increasing the blood flow while at the same time decreasing the clots.  Instead, it seemed to bring on the megaclots and also appeared to contribute to the hemmoraging that ensued.   I now agree wholeheartedly with vhlb — herbs are no more innocuous than prescription medicine, and need to be treated with the same caution. Medscape’s Women’s Health tends to have up-to-the-minute articles (I think the base site is also listed on vhlb’s links). http://www.medscape.com/Home/Topics/WomensHealth/womenshealth.html

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Val,

Thanks also for all the food information!  Even though reading through it makes me hungry    :  )   Can’t wait to try the Tapenade!  Sounds yummy!

That’s the plan.   Get yourself a good vitamin / mineral supplement and take it regularly.  I like to take the more trendy type at Trader Joe’s or one of the warehouse stores. Normally they have more ’stuff’ in it reflecting recent research.   And keep reading the FOOD and RECIPE posts because I’m going to keep pursuing nummy delicious irresistible  ways to get the benefits that a lot of the supplements are targeting. BTW – haven’t done the research yet, but was curious does anyone know if anyone makes walnut oil?  Seems like it might be a good thing for sweet types of food since walnuts are a source of omega-3.  [Just thinking about it makes thoughts of baklava run through my brain  ... and the Greeks have a wonderful cake that I can't remember the name of that is chock full of walnuts and walnut flavor.] Wendy hypo…@aol.com

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Jane Weaver wrote in message <71g9p4$cm…@autumn.news.rcn.net

… I was taking St. John’s wort, and also tried cranberry, kava kava, and

black

cohesh, as well as some other "menopausal" formulas I ran across.  I think the St. John’s wort did help mild mood swings, but gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting

Interesting!  My period came about at Day 23 the last time, and started with a flurry of small clots!  Usually they start out pretty light and then get into the clot thing in a day or so.  And I’ve been taking lots of gingko. And since I’ve been taking Gingko (about 3 months), I’ve had some awfully long periods  One lasted 11 days!  Thanks for this info.

The most helpful thing I’ve found, though, is really making an extra effort to eat a wide variety of whatever foods are in season, making sure I get plenty of exercise, and taking some supplements just to be sure of enough vitamins — especially chewable calcium (not Tums, which contain things I felt I don’t need).

I know I’m lacking in the water and exercise department.  From other posts I’ve read, not drinking enough water is probably a contributing factor to other difficulties.

I try to eat only virgin olive oil,   I continue to drink many herbal teas.  My favorites are Celestial Seasonings, not the specialty brands, although I experiment with everything.  I do think Sleepytime and Emperor’s Choice are the most relaxing, wonderful herbal concoctions I’ve found!  I also drink a lot of other Ginseng and green teas and love Royal jelly (especially the Korean variety).  Again, I feel they are calming.

Thanks to hubby (who’s a great and very particular cook), we always have virgin olive oil on hand.  And herbal and various green  teas, too — he’s a tea addict. Thanks for reminding me to make use of what’s readily available!  Gosh, I get so caught up in putting out fires and managing crises that I can’t even think of the obvious!  I’m going to make an effort to add your suggestions to the daily routine.  Will keep you posted, and you do the same — let us know how you’re doing. Val

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Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week  You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms?  Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else?  Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately.  Took some Valerian compound yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information!  Even though reading through it makes me hungry    :  )   Can’t wait to try the Tapenade!  Sounds yummy! Val

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I was taking St. John’s wort, and also tried cranberry, kava kava, and black cohesh, as well as some other "menopausal" formulas I ran across.  I think the St. John’s wort did help mild mood swings, but gingko seemed to worsen my bleeding and clotting.  I really saw no real improvement with kava kava or black cohesh.  When the clots were not huge, cayenne clearly did break them up.  Cranberry may have helped.  I think oatmeal is the very best thing I’ve found for digestion, or Ralston.  With severe symptoms, I found that none of these things worked well, and did finally switch for health reasons to more traditional medicine. The most helpful thing I’ve found, though, is really making an extra effort to eat a wide variety of whatever foods are in season, making sure I get plenty of exercise, and taking some supplements just to be sure of enough vitamins — especially chewable calcium (not Tums, which contain things I felt I don’t need).  I felt that it really did make a difference in the moods after just a few weeks (I also try to get 2 cups of 1% milk or equivalent yogurt each day in addition).  I also think drinking lots more water than one would think is necessary has been the best dietary change I’ve made (about 8 cups).  My skin improved and female discomfort diminished markedly in only about a week after I started the water regimen. I try to eat only virgin olive oil, and if I *really* want butter or margarine, I occasionally whip real unsalted butter with olive oil into a soft spread (or canola oil, if it’s going to go on something with a delicate taste that olive oil could overpower).  I continue to drink many herbal teas.  My favorites are Celestial Seasonings, not the specialty brands, although I experiment with everything.  I do think Sleepytime and Emperor’s Choice are the most relaxing, wonderful herbal concoctions I’ve found!  I also drink a lot of other Ginseng and green teas and love Royal jelly (especially the Korean variety).  Again, I feel they are calming. Please let us know what you decide to try, and with what results! –Jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Valery wrote in message <71g0cr$…@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com

… Thanks again, everybody, for your insights and understanding when I posted earlier this week  You helped me through a really stressful week, and I really appreciate it. I know this has probably been discussed before, but what herbs/vitamins are good for our peri symptoms?  Seems like Gingko helps, but is there anything else?  Thought about trying the Kava kava again, but I don’t respond to it as dramatically as some people – unfortunately.  Took some Valerian

compound

yesterday and this morning, and think it helps some. Thanks also for all the food information!  Even though reading through it makes me hungry    :  )   Can’t wait to try the Tapenade!  Sounds yummy! Val

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Valery asked about herbs: This is most emphatically *not* my bailiwick, as my eyes glaze over at the tincture recipes. But I understand from plenty of folks that the "gold standard" for herbal advice on menopause is _Menopausal Years_ by Susun Weed. Weed is quoted extensively in _Dr. Susan Love’s Hormone Book_, and by any number of other health care practitioners. You can find some of Weed’s recommendations  echoed in Love’s book, as noted…and in a truly hilarious online article, "Hotter than a Red-Assed Bee," whose URL escapes me at the moment, but there’s a link to it at http://members.tripod.com/menopause/ Probably the most important thing to remember about herbs, as I understand it, is that they’re not necessarily innocuous. It’s a good idea to read carefully and proceed with caution. For further information, see the web site of the American Botanical Council at http://www.herbalgram.org Regards, vlhb…@aol.com

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Add another one to that number–numbers are my game!  I have a degree in mathematics, and have made a living in the past both teaching math, and working as both a technical typist and an administrative assistant in the research area.  I do all the gathering and tabulating numbers for the taxes, etc. for our repair service business that my husband and I run!  And I have had migraines for about 40 years now! Barbara — Barbara Lemmond – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, maybe that’s something that goes with migraines too!  I enjoy tabulating and typing too. <g Vicky , Must be the "type A" migraine personality in us coming out!  LOL Judy

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Vicky , Must be the "type A" migraine personality in us coming out!  LOL

<Helen A+!!! </Helen butting (went to http://www.peterzale.com and fell in love…)         (oh, that’s a different Helen, btw…) — Bryce Utting                          http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~butting                 the cross before me, the world behind me                              no turning back

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Ingrid… I don’t know if you’re still taking results of the survey, but just in case….I had to add my two cents… Low BP (90/60) Cold Extremities Low Temperature (c. 97.4 degrees) Insomnia Fatigue Sinus problems Acute senses (hearing, smell, touch) Seziures Benign brain cyst Bruxism Mitral Valve Prolapse PTSD Good idea taking this survey! Thanks for taking the time to tabulate eveything…. Raven Cultural Advisor ~ Ceili Convention Committee The Once and Future Con ~ 12-14 June 1998 http://www.mindwell.com/~anubis/oafc "From this life to the next…."

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Hey, maybe that’s something that goes with migraines too!  I enjoy tabulating and typing too. <g

Vicky , Must be the "type A" migraine personality in us coming out!  LOL Judy

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See…..now *there* is a survey that Mario and I could take part in!!!! Bob

Gee, that sounds even more fun!!

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Vicky , Must be the "type A" migraine personality in us coming out!  LOL

<Helen A+!!! </Helen butting (went to http://www.peter-zale.com and fell in love…) — Bryce Utting                          http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~butting                 the cross before me, the world behind me                              no turning back

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PS, I’m glad you thought this was fun…I now know I have a kindred soul here (and one whose hubby has the same sick sense of humor mine does! LOL!)

Hey, maybe that’s something that goes with migraines too!  I enjoy tabulating and typing too. <g — Vicky

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JLR) writes: the same sick sense of humor mine does! LOL!)

See…..now *there* is a survey that Mario and I could take part in!!!! Bob Never Blame the Rainbows for the Rain [J.H.& R.T.]

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PTSD                        1       What is that?          

PTSD=Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

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Ingrid, Nice job on this!.  I’m curious about a couple of things… I’m guessing that the female:male ratio on this is pretty high…do you happen to know?  Also, am wondering if you just looked at those with the low BP, are there other prevalant symptoms going along with that… i.e., how many with low BP have cold extremities, low temperature, etc?  Again, thanks for doing this! Judy PS, I’m glad you thought this was fun…I now know I have a kindred soul here (and one whose hubby has the same sick sense of humor mine does! LOL!)

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PTSD                    1       What is that?

I will take a stab at it and say Post Traumatic Stress Disorder? Ingrid — — My house is maintained for the comfort of my dogs, if you don’t like it – leave. —

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Summary:                50 total responses               Low BP                  36      2 high BP       Gastric Problems        18      Did not separate out for IBS             Cold Extremities        17               Low Temperature 13      2 high   Insomnia                12               Fast Pulse              12               Allergies               10               Fatigue                 10               Depression              9               Raynauds Syndrome       6               Sinus Problems          6               Acute Senses            5       I lumped smell, hearing and sensitive eye               Endometriosis           5               Asthma                  4               Disc Problems           3               Geographic Tongue       3               Anxiety                 2               Fibromyalgia            2               Motion Sickness 2               Osteoarthritis          2               Seizures                2               Vasomotor Rhinitis      2               ARAD/S          1       My almost son-in-law has that!           Benign Essential Tremor 1               Blood Clots             1               Bruxism         1               Gallbladder             1               Low Thyroid             1               Mitral Valve Prolapse   1               PTSD                    1       What is that?           Rheumatic Fever 1               Shingles                1               Urinary Tract problems  1 From reading other threads I was under the impression that more people had seizures. Unfortunately, I could realistically only tabulate those under the "Common" thread. I left out symptoms occurring during migraines, since we were looking for "other" common problems. I still find the incidence of low BP amazing and was especially interested that a German doctor felt it should be treated. When I was home in Germany over Christmas my Mom’s doctor asked me what I was being treated with for the low BP. She was quite shocked that the doctors in the US don’t seem to think it important. This was fun! Ingrid           — — My house is maintained for the comfort of my dogs, if you don’t like it – leave. —

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Please help with any advice that you may have. 5 years ago I was diagnosed with depression. Have taken Prozac, Effexor and now Serzone. I have a gut feeling that I have been misdiagnosed and actually suffer from PD or a combination of the two. Although I am much better now, I feel that I still suffer from PA’s from time to time ranging from mild to severe. I don’t trust my Psychiatrist and am really fed up with only being part of the whole person I know I can be. Has anyone out there been in the same situation and if so, what did you do? Hopeful, Gary P.S. E-mail responses preferred.

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: : I don’t trust my Psychiatrist and am really fed up with only being part of : the whole person I know I can be. Has anyone out there been in the same : situation and if so, what did you do? Hi Gary, Sounds like this would be a good time to consult another psychiatrist. Pick up the phone and call your local major metropolitan hospitals to ask if they have an anxiety clinic or psychiatric staff familiar with anxiety and panic disorders. Make an appointment and get another opinion on your case. Feel free to post the group or e-mail me for further info or support.                                         Best Wishes,                                         Arthur

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I don’t trust my Psychiatrist and am really fed up with only being part of the whole person I know I can be. Has anyone out there been in the same situation and if so, what did you do?

Hello Gary I would think it’s a second opinion that you’re looking for. If all else fails you could treat yourself. It will mean a great deal of reading, research and being honest with yourself but it is (IMHO) a common misconception that expert guidance is necessary in all cases. Have faith in yourself and your own judgement, even if it’s let you down in the past. If you seek further professional treatment try to play a more active role – take charge. Hopeful,

Stay that way, hope is all that you need. Best of luck — ROB…  "high mileage but reliable!"

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