I know that steroids can wreak havoc on BG. What I haven’t been able to learn is how long this effect normally lasts. For example, if one gets a depo medrol injection, does it affect BG levels for hours/days/weeks? Thanks to anyone who can answer this.
If I’m not mistaken it will stay in the system for several weeks or months. Any steroids I’ve ever taken caused more trouble then it was worth IMHO Pam
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I know that steroids can wreak havoc on BG. What I haven’t been able to learn is how long this effect normally lasts. For example, if one gets a depo medrol injection, does it affect BG levels for hours/days/weeks? Thanks to anyone who can answer this.
I’ve noticed problems with mere inhaled steroids for asthmatic bronchitis. For me the effect is 20-50 mg/dl unexplainable rise in BG that can last up to five hours. That with 2 puffs of 110mcg FloVent and 2 puffs of 0.2mg MaxAir. (See my question – "another medication question" if it ever shows up! The Fates have conspired against me in all my attempts to post that message to this ng.)
Is there any correlation between weight gain and certain asthma medicines like Accolate or singulair. I know prednisone makes you retain water when you are on it, but does it have longterm side effects in this area, even if one is only on it for a brief period of time at a low dosage?
Hi Stephanie, I have found a correlation (whether there supposed to be one or not!). I asked my primary care doc’s nurse, (who is asthmatic and goes to my asthma doc) if she experienced wt. gain also and she said yes, pretty much in hips and thighs…all since taking Accolate. I also noticed a wee bit of fluid retention after I started Flovent. Patrice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there any correlation between weight gain and certain asthma medicines like Accolate or singulair. I know prednisone makes you retain water when you are on it, but does it have longterm side effects in this area, even if one is only on it for a brief period of time at a low dosage?
Hi Stephanie, I have found a correlation (whether there supposed to be one or not!).
Isn’t this Testimonial evidence? A correlation is a Statistical property of a data set, it is defined by the ‘r’ value among others. Be careful or Diane will jump all over you! : )
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Ah ha! The ‘r’ value in my correlation must mean the opposite of front end! 
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I have been on prednisone and i am life dependant. I have a lot of problems with weight gain. I also took Accolate but got off of it because it did nothing for me. I am on flovent and see no change in my weight from that. A lot of medications make you hungry when your dose goes up. so you have to watch that. Good Luck * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
I have been on prednisone and i am life dependant. I have a lot of problems with weight gain. I also took Accolate but got off of it because it did nothing for me. I am on flovent and see no change in my weight from that. A lot of medications make you hungry when your dose goes up. so you have to watch that
I have had the exact same experience. I have been dependent on prednisone for about 5 years now, and have had major weight gain. My doc tells me to eat the way I would if dieting would actually work (low fat, lots of lean meat, fruit and veggies) so that at least I will be healthy. She has always been very good and understanding with the weight issue. My hardest part is the frustration. I also tried Accolate and it didnt help much. I also agree about the increase in appetite! It is another part of the frustration. You are always hungry and you try not to eat because you dont want to gain any MORE weight. As if having severe asthma wasn’t bad enough! Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
I am so glad to find someone who is in my position. I am also a diabetic and I am on a strick diet. I take insulin 3 timess a day plus check my sugar 4 times a day. They that diabetics are skinny I think someone forgot to tell me. I have a great doctor too about my weight. Do you have any exersizes that you do or can do besides walking. I can bearly make it up the stairs. Are you on anyother medications? I have been on prednisone for about 10 years now. What dosages are you on? * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Do you have any exersizes that you do or can do besides walking. I can bearly make it up the stairs. Are you on anyother medications? I have been on prednisone for about 10 years now. What dosages are you on?
Hiya – Right now I am on 20mg and that seems to be as low as I can go without having an attack. But recently around Christmas I was very ill with bronchitis (it was starting to turn into pneumonia) and I was on 90mg prednisone, and had to taper down from that. I have been "forcing" myself to move more. I got a 20 minute Richard Simmons videotape (OK, now stop giggling!). What my doc suggested is that I go as far as I can until I start to feel uncomfortable, then stop. When I can – resume again. Anything is better than nothing. It took me 5 tries to get through the tape the first time, but VERY slowly, it is starting to become easier. Of course, if you are not OK, you dont do it, you have to know how you feel. My doc has been great about the weight problem, she has helped me try to deal with the frustration of doing the right things and getting no results. Keep your chin up! Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
Right now I am on 15mg daily. I was able to get down to 15mg from 30mg only by taking Methotrexate. Its a cancer drug but it worked. I was on it for about 5 years. When I first went on it I lost my hair because it is a chemo drug and I thru up also. My dooctor is trying to get me down farther but nothing has worked. So now we are trying cutting 2.5mg every two days. I can’t start this until I get back from my vacation in April. Right now I am fighting with a cold that is soon going to be bronchitus. I hate being sick. I am also being put on the Med. Pump for my diabetes. Did you get any side effects from the prednisone. I did I look like I am 8 months preg. and I ended up with diabetes. I have to take 4 shots a day so they are going to put me on the pump. What fun!!!! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Did you get any side effects from the prednisone. I did I look like I am 8 months preg. and I ended up with diabetes.
Does the prednisone cause the diabetes?? My 16 yr old daughter is steroid dependent and stays on what seems to be relatively high doses most of the time. Her Dr. isn’t happy about this , but says she has to breathe. However he never mentioned diabetes as a possible effect.
Did you get any side effects from the prednisone. I did I look like I am 8 months preg. and I ended up with diabetes. Does the prednisone cause the diabetes?? My 16 yr old daughter is steroid dependent and stays on what seems to be relatively high doses most of the time. Her Dr. isn’t happy about this , but says she has to breathe. However he never mentioned diabetes as a possible effect.
Diabetes is one possible side effect of long term use of oral steroids. You can look up the side effects in the Physicians Desk Reference [PDR] that most public libraries carry. Link: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/pred.htm click on Adverse Effects Excerpt: "Adverse Effects Endocrine: Menstrual irregularities; Development of Cushingoid state; Secondary adrenocortical and pituitary unresponsiveness, particularly in times of stress, as in trauma, surgery or illness; Suppression of growth in children; Decreased carbohydrate tolerance; Manifestations of latent diabetes mellitus; Increased requirements for insulin or oral hypoglycemic agents in diabetics" Ellis — Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway – http://www.talkway.com – Talk more ways (sm)
Right now I am on 15mg daily. I was able to get down to 15mg from 30mg only by taking Methotrexate. Its a cancer drug but it worked. I was on it for about 5 years. When I first went on it I lost my hair because it is a chemo drug and I thru up also. My dooctor is trying to get me down farther but nothing has worked. So now we are trying cutting 2.5mg every two days. I can’t start this until I get back from my vacation in April. Right now I am fighting with a cold that is soon going to be bronchitus. I hate being sick. I am also being put on the Med. Pump for my diabetes. Did you get any side effects from the prednisone. I did I look like I am 8 months preg. and I ended up with diabetes. I have to take 4 shots a day so they are going to put me on the pump. What fun!!!!
The usual protocol for tapering steroids is to reduce to 15 mg/day; then go on alternate day therapy at 30 mg every other day; then very slowly reduce the dose down to 5 mg every other day and then go off steroids. Using alternate day therapy is important to stimulate the adrenal gland to start producing cortisone again. Ref: ‘Reversing Asthma’, Richard Firshein DO Ellis — Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums Talkway – http://www.talkway.com – Talk more ways (sm)
Hiya – I am also on methotrexate. It too has caused me to really thin out my hair and I am very nauseaus (sp?) on the first two days of the week when I take it. My side effects from prednisone have included a dramatic weight gain, and more hair thinning. My sugar does not go up unless I am on IV solumedrol in the hospital. Sometimes I have to receive insulin while I am there to control it. But my blood sugar is normally on the very low side, so the orals don’t effect me too much. My doctor also tapers me the way yours does. She has to be very careful with me, and sometimes we have tapered as slowly as .05mg every 3-4 days. I have not been able to successfully go down past 20mg without getting sick. The ONLY time I could was when I was in the test study for mometazone – I was on .05mg of prednisone a day and about to be steroid free, but the study ended and I had to go back up. Mometazone is supposed to be released in the US by September hopefully. I dont know if it will work for you (and I sincerely hope it will) but it was a miracle inhaler for me. I took it in place of Flovent and I was almost steroid free for the first time in 5 years. If I hadnt told you before, I am 31, and a former professional chef. I have been on disability for asthma for almost 3 years now – and I am DYING to get back to work. My regimen is: Proventil, Flovent, Serevent, Methotrexate, Prednisone, ClaritinD, and Prilosec (because all the damn meds gives me reflux!). I hope that we can continue to correspond to each other – we have similar lives it seems!! Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
I am 39 a legal secretary I just started back to work after not working for several years I only work 31/2 hours a day. Social security says I am cured and cut me off. I went to see their doctors and I was having a good day my breathing was great and when I took a breathing test I did really good. Of course by the next day I could barely breath. I am on Theo-dur, prednisone, flovent, ventolin, insulin. I am now sick and have a very bad cold I have to call the doctor tomorrow. It does sound like our lives are about the same. Are you married? Do you have any kids? I am married I have been for 18 years. I have 4 kids. All teenagers. My husband is great about me not feeling that great. I usually come home from work and take a nap until the kids come home from school. I hope that we can keep in touch where do you live? I live in upstate New York. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
i tried to go off of prednisone by doing exactly how you described but it does not work I always ended in the hospital. So now we are going to try this way first. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Hiya – I live in the Riverdale section of the Bronx, the border between the north bronx and Manhattan. Nope, Im not married – first I was working too many hours, then I got too sick to go anywhere. So I live with my Mom so Im not alone in case I get sick. You really do have to be careful tapering the steroids. It has been my experience that even .05mg too low and you can have serious problems. If you are lucky, and you have a good doc, you know how to tell you are going to have trouble BEFORE you actually have it. I also hope we can continue to correspond!! Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
right now I am fighting off a major cold. I have been home sick from work. I think it is good that you live with someone because we need someone to help us once in a while. I bet your mother likes having you around. I know my husband and kids help me out alot when I get really sick. I have to get better before april 13 because we are taking our kids on a family vacation before two of them go off to college. My doctors and I are looking into putting me on pump for my diabetes and they say that I will gain weight from that. do you get people that don’t believe you that your weight gain is from the meds? I hate that. How much methotrexate are you on? Keep smiling and remember nothing lasts forever. My favorite saying is Take one day at a time. that is exactly what we have to do. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Hi, It would appear I fit in quite well with this group. I have severe asthma the chronic facial pain resulted from root canal in 1993. I am 42 and have been on SSDI since last September although I have been unable to work since last March. I had been employed since 1986 as a manager for an insurance agency – a job I really liked and had worked hard for my promotions. My asthma began to deteriorate in last January – I was hospitalized four times last year – twice for pneumonia/asthma & twice for severe asthma attacks. I have been steroid dependent for well over a year, however, I am trying to taper down slowly. Unfortunately I have gained an excessive amount of weight – I look in the mirror & don’t recognize the person staring back. Currently my meds are Theo-dur 450 mg x 2, Accolate 20 mg x 2, Serevent 2 puffs x 2, Flovent 2 puffs x 4, Prevacid 30 mg x 2, Albuterol Sulfate .083% nebulizer treatments q 4-6 hrs prn, Oxygen 3.5 lpm (or higher if needed), Allegra D, prednisone 20 – 40 mg tapering down as tolerated, Methadone 70 mg x 2 (for severe chronic facial pain), valium 5 mg prn (works well to stop the albuterol/theo-dur shakes if needed), and finally phenergan 25mg suppositories for nausea prn. Also, I developed lymphedema in both legs so I have just completed a 6 week course of therapy with the compression bandages, massage, and lasix. There are some days when it is extremely hard to try & maintain a positive attitude. I am fortunate to have a supportive husband, family, and friends. My pulmonologist had suggested a trial of metotrexate, however, I am somewhat apprehensive to try. It seems like I already have enough "side effects" from my other meds to add any addtional ones. I have found it to be very supportive to talk to others with similar problems – please feel free to e-mail back. Deborah Deborah
My pulmonologist had suggested a trial of metotrexate, however, I am somewhat apprehensive to try.
Hiya – I cant say positively how the methotrexate would react with your meds, but it has really worked for me. My current regimen is: Proventil Inhaler as needed, Proventil nebulizer as needed, Serevent 2 puff 2xday, Flovent 2puff 2x day, Prednisone – 20mg, Claritin D-24, Prilosec (for reflux), and the methotrexate. With Methotrexate you have to have a liver function test once a month to make sure your liver is OK. Other than that, and nausea on my first day, I have no other symptoms or side effects. It has really helped me while I am waiting for Mometasone to be approved by the FDA. I did the trial study on that and I was totally OFF prednisone for the first time in years. I, too, have had the massive weight gain, and hair loss from the steroids. When people question me on it, I look them square in the eye and say "I’d rather be fat than not breathe". They usually dont know what to say after that. :) Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
With Methotrexate you have to have a liver function test once a month to make sure your liver is OK. Other than that, and nausea on my first day, I have no other symptoms or side effects. It has really helped me while I am waiting for Mometasone to be approved by the FDA. I did the trial study on that and I was totally OFF prednisone for the first time in years.
Hi Nancy, How does the Methotrexate work to improve your asthma? Also, what is Mometasone? I have been reading about anti -IgE injections which seem promising in the current trials. Researchers have indicated this drug stops the asthma attacks in adults & children without major side effects. The drug has not been approved by the FDA, however, it could be approved within a year or two. (hopefully one year) I like your response regarding excessive weight gain – still, there are so many people (like friends & previous co-workers) with absolutely no idea as to the side effects of prednisone. I know the added weight adds an additional strain on my heart & lungs, however, I have determined that with my slow metabolism (from the strong narcotics for facial pain) and the increase in appetite from prednisone – I would have to "starve" to lose even a few pounds. As for exercise, I have been reduced to a wheelchair on some days due to SOB. Thanks for your response – keep in touch. Take care, Deborah
Hi Deborah – How does the Methotrexate work to improve your asthma?
To be honest, Im not totally sure. My doc suggested it, as my other regimen wasn’t working, my pulmonary functions were still pretty low. I take 7 pills once a week. I believe that it is a cancer drug and used in chemotherapy. I think it has to do with anti-inflammatory properties, but again, Im really not sure. Im going to the doc tomorrow, and I will ask her. Also, what is Mometasone?
Mometasone was an inhaled steroid that I was in the test group for. I used it over last winter and summer and I was totally OFF prednisone for the first time in 3 years. It is currently waiting for FDA approval. This was a lifesaver for me. Flovent helps me somewhat, but even with Flovent AND methotrexate I cant go below 20mg of prednisone without getting an attack. I have been reading about anti -IgE injections which seem promising in the current trials. Researchers have indicated this drug stops the asthma attacks in adults & children without major side effects.
Sounds very interesting. I will be asking her about that too. My doc is very big into research and she usually knows all about this stuff. Believe me, I know how you feel with the weight gain, and not being able to help yourself with it. It is a vicious circle we run in. The steroids make you gain weight, the weight makes your asthma worse, which makes you need more steroids, etc etc. Yes, I have run into people, yes including family, who either dont believe or really dont understand that the weight gain is from the steroids. EVEN when you can see my thinning hair!! What, Im just unlucky, im fat and losing my hair??? I dont think so! I will share with you what my doctor told me. She told me to follow an eating plan that I would follow if I WAS able to lose weight. (I, personally, find Weight Watchers to be the best plan). Her theory is that you should eat right, low fat, low sugar and even though you wont lose weight NOW, you will when you can go down on the steroids, and you will be keeping yourself HEALTHY (nutrition wise), which is more important. Then, if you DO either get off the steroids or go on a low dose, you will already have great eating habits! I still go to the WW meetings when I can, and the leader has been really helpful. She knows the situation and has even talked to my doctor. She knows how frustrated I get, and celebrates the tiniest weight loss with me!! I hope this info has helped you, and I hope you get better!! Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
Hi guys, I am just tapering down from 180mg of prednisone. I just got out of the hospital. I have to say I even lost weight. I was put on a 1200 calorie diet, low carb and low fat because of the diabetes, the more I taper the more weight I lose. I also took Chefck advice and bought an exercise tape and do what I can. some days its only working with the weights other days I just watch. I know eventually I will end up in a wheelchair because omy bone density is getting worse. But I am going to go down fighting. So do not give up. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Thanks. Sorry about the repost that appears as gibberish. I had previously used an anonymous posting service but thought it did not work since I got no response for hours. I also did not know the posting service posted everything in html. Yes, that is correct. when off zoloft I get impulsive and aggresive. I will agree the Zoloft is helping but I do not want to take it forever. It has many side effects as you probably know. I actually liked the feeling of being ‘high’ when being off the zoloft. I had forgotten what it was like. I only restarted to take it to see if I went back to my previous socially more likeable state. I also started back to calm down a bit and make sure I did not do or say anything impulsive that might cause problems at work. My goal is to find out what is causing the non-zoloft feelings and behaviors. I am beginning to think definetely a physiological basis but sometimes I wonder if it is some sort of personality problem. This is the first medicine I have taken my whole life that has made a difference but I would like to see if there is another way to get cured. Maybe its a sugar problem, hormonal problem, etc and the zoloft just softens the blow of the physiological imbalance. bg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, and welcome to ASD 
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Hello. Brief Summary: My age is 34 and gender is male. Been a sufferer of anxiety/depression for 20 years. About 2 years ago started taking zoloft for anxiety attacks that were the largest ever in my adult life. 2 years ago I was also diagnosed with hypo-thyroid. My hypo is no longer a problem due to synthroid. Started taking zoloft and synthroid at the same time. The zoloft helped the anxiety and also helped with social anxiety. Never felt better in my whole life. About 1 month ago, I stopped zoloft cold turkey. Had some physical reactions to stopping but those cleared after about 2 weeks. However I became hyper, gained a big ego, became aggressive, some impulse problems, felt kind of on the edge of losing control with anger and with happiness, more energetic, and the mind kept racing. After seeing my doctor (Psychiatrist) he asked if I wanted to go back on the zoloft to see if the problems went away. I started taking 50 mg and within 3 days I was back to how I was before the Zoloft. This appearance and disappearance does not seem to fit the pattern for bi-polar. Since zoloft is not for bi-polar and second the opposite if anything would have happened. eg, hyper on zoloft, not hyper off it. I do not think these feelings and behaviors were due to stopping the zoloft. I have had many of these symptoms before taking zoloft off and on for years. So my question is what might my problem be? Yes, this is a bit vague question and also given my tiny bio seems an absurd question. I am wondering if anyone has had this sort of situation before and if so what it was. Or maybe there is someone out there who knows of a physiological basis for this. Thanks a bunch.
Yes, that is correct. when off zoloft I get impulsive and aggresive.
Have you ever had a head injury? even an untreated one? My goal is to find out what is causing the non-zoloft feelings and behaviors. I am beginning to think definetely a physiological basis but sometimes I wonder if it is some sort of personality problem.
They are both horrible quagmires. This is the first medicine I have taken my whole life that has made a difference but I would like to see if there is another way to get cured. Maybe its a sugar problem, hormonal problem, etc and the zoloft just softens the blow of the physiological imbalance.
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Thanks. Sorry about the repost that appears as gibberish. I had previously used an anonymous posting service but thought it did not work since I got no response for hours. I also did not know the posting service posted everything in html.
I think twwells does put a bit of a delay in getting messages out, but others in ASD do use it. I think your news-reader program (Outlook Express?) may be set to use ‘Rich text’ or HTML – if you try twwells again with your software set to use ‘plain text’ things might work better, and I’m sure it’s more convenient than posting via Google. [benefits of treatment] Yes, that is correct. when off zoloft I get impulsive and aggresive. I will agree the Zoloft is helping but I do not want to take it forever. It has many side effects as you probably know. I actually liked the feeling of being ‘high’ when being off the zoloft. I had forgotten what it was like. I only restarted to take it to see if I went back to my previous socially more likeable state. I also started back to calm down a bit and make sure I did not do or say anything impulsive that might cause problems at work. My goal is to find out what is causing the non-zoloft feelings and behaviors.
Talking therapy helps many people work out stuff like that. Zoloft (sertraline) is an anti-depressant, so if it helps then Depression might well be at least part of the problem. There are many other anti-depressants if there are side-effects of sertraline that you can’t accept – a doctor would be able to advise. I am beginning to think definetely a physiological basis but sometimes I wonder if it is some sort of personality problem.
Depression /is/ physical – chemical neuro-transmitters get out of balance, and anti-depressants work by doing various things to adjust the balance. How things get out of balance in the first place, is not yet worked out; there may be several causes. As far as I know, personality disorders are best diagnosed by a psychiatrist or psychologist; your doctor could probably tell you more about that and possibly arrange a referral. This is the first medicine I have taken my whole life that has made a difference but I would like to see if there is another way to get cured. Maybe its a sugar problem, hormonal problem, etc and the zoloft just softens the blow of the physiological imbalance. bg
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I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
I am now on 150 mg of Effexor, but it is only temporary. I have been on 75 mg since a couple of years ago, and there is no side effect which gives me problems. I am also on Risperdal, and recently my pdoc changed it for Zyprexa and I noted an increase of my sexual libido, so I am not sure if Effexor is lowering my libido. What I can say is that when I was married I didn’t find I needed more sexual drive than I actually had. If you find any annoying side effects from Effexor, most surely they’ll disappear in something like a week. — Teilhard Knight The Extraterrestrial Eat the sandwich to email http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
I just started to take 75 mg effexor xr, since the prozac i use to take, wasn’t working very well anymore. How is this anti-depressant like? Is it better than the older SSRIs? Sometimes I feel strange while I am on it. Does this go away with time? Are there more or less sexual side effects with this one compared to SSRIS like prozac and zoloft? Thanks for any help
Hi, I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)?
NO. After the growth areas in the bones have closed off, no further height can be achieved. Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed. — | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make | | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay | | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
What about DHEA Is it good for all problems?
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed. What about DHEA Is it good for all problems?
If you have a seratonin deficiency caused by low DHEA, and assuming that a reasonable amount makes it through the digestive system and blood-brain barrier, then it could do you a lot of good. — | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make | | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay | | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed.
Can I get this tested, e.g. by my physician?
What about DHEA Is it good for all problems?
What is DHEA compared with HGH?
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? NO. After the growth areas in the bones have closed off, no further height can be achieved.
Okay, say that is the case (they have closed off). Would it cause negative effects etc. when I took HGH or DHEA? What would be better for "testing", HGH or DHEA or both? And: When will be the time to determine if it works or not?
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? NO. After the growth areas in the bones have closed off, no further height can be achieved. Okay, say that is the case (they have closed off). Would it cause negative effects etc. when I took HGH or DHEA?
Mucking around with hormones is not a good idea. Also true HGH is a very expensive injectible presctiption-only substance, not something you can buy retail. It sounds like you are a short 22-year old male who wants to be taller. Unfortunately, genetics and nutritional status during childhood and adolescence have almost complete control over height. Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed. Can I get this tested, e.g. by my physician?
X-rays would show whether or not the long bones had active growth plates or not. Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed. Can I get this tested, e.g. by my physician?
Yup. One of the 18yo boys was having some joint pain recently, and since they’ve been slow growing (and are still a bit shorter than their father) we thought maybe it was a late growth spurt causing something like Osgood Schlatter’s Disease. Nope. The orthopod reported that the growth plates were *almost* closed. — | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make | | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay | | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
Hi, I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Manuel
Hi Manuel- I personally grew 2 inches at age 30 as a result of heavy therapy which cleared out some difficult childhood trauma. HGH (whether injectable, releaser or homeopathic) has NOT had very good results with people like yourself. But if for years you have felt yourself to be small, short, unhappy about your height, etc; there is a possibility (my GUESS would be about 3%-10% chance) that HGH might do something for your height partly because of psychological reasons. Good luck. Thayer Thayer White MA MFT http://www.helpself.com http://www.psychologyhelp.com http://www.hghcompany.com
Hi, I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)? Manuel
I would like to know if taking HGH drugs can stimulate growth when one is already 22 (male)?
Only if your growth plates haven’t already closed. — | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make | | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay | | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
A new study found that patient complaints of sexual dysfunction caused by antidepressants are almost two times greater than believed by physicians, according to a report presented at the American Psychiatric Association’s annual meeting. Researchers studied 6,297 patients enrolled at 1,101 primary care offices throughout the U.S. and evaluated 10 different new generation antidepressants. Although selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and serotonin and norephinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) are associated with a higher rate of sexual dysfunction, newer antidepressants such as bupropion (Wellbutrin) and nefazodone have shown a lower incidence of the problem. "The SSRIs are known to cause sexual dysfunction as a side effect, but until now, there hasn’t been a study to look at all the new generation antidepressants to see how they compare," said Dr. Anita Clayton, associate professor and vice chair of the Department of Psychiatric Medicine at the University of Virginia and lead investigator of the study. "Physicians and patients are generally reluctant to talk about sexual problems. Therefore, physicians often underestimate the prevalence of antidepressant-associated sexual dysfunction and the impact on patients, as shown in this study." Wellbutrin SR (bupropion HCI) Sustained-Release was associated with the lowest rate of sexual dysfunction (25 percent) after Wellbutrin (bupropion HCI) (22 percent), compared with an average of 40 percent with the SSRIs venlafaxine (Effexor) and mirtazapine (Remeron). The prevalence rate of sexual dysfunction ranged from 7 percent of patients receiving Wellbutrin SR to 23 to 30 percent for patients receiving the other antidepressants, including fluoxetine (Prozac), citalopram (Celexa) and venlafaxine XR. This article is brought to you by the "Depression Week" online newsletter. This newletter presents the latest news and views on developments in Depression, it is one of a family of specialized medical newsletters brought to you by Medical Week, LLC. http://www.depressionweek.org/
I went on 50mgd Zoloft 3 monthes ago and it has helped me. Before I went on I had no energy of any kind, sexual or otherwise. Now I’m back to my oldself. I guess it just depends upon the person. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
Celexia, Prozac, Wellbutin, Zoloft, Effexor, which I stopped called turky, a 2 months ago. I’mback on Paxil as the pain clinic said it helps the most with chronic pain… The thing with Paxil, by the third week I am a zombie…. dory
Paul, I used to take Paxil, now on Effexor XR. I am currently thinking about switching to another one. I think I build up a tolerance to them over time. I have a cousin who seems to have this same problem with tolerance, he can only last about six months on a given antidepressant. Susan E
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On Thu, 03 May 2001 15:53:14 GMT, "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home wrote: family. Anyway! with M.S., the mind says yes and the body says no, or is the other way around! Close. I believe its "the mind says yes, and the body says f*** off"
Eliz. To paraphrase Oedipus, Hamlet, Lear, and all those guys, "I wish I had known this some time ago." – Corwin, Sign of the Unicorn
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The description of Effexor’s side effects goes on for two whole *pages* of fine print! Effing brutal, huh? I’ll pass.
It is an EXCELLENT anti-depressant. And if I felt I needed it I’d take again in a heartbeat, side effects be damned. But, for me right now, I’m not especially depressed, I’ll take wellbrutrin as a ‘just in case’ pill and to help me quit smoking. I am mostly stopping it because I was tired of feeling like a sexless lump. Heheh, now I’m just a frisky tired lump, deeeeeep sigh. ps. I forgot to mention the fun ‘clicking’ sound in your head when you move your eyes. whoopie! Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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wrote in message news:3af0ec09.50575026@news.cis.dfn.de… Michael wrote: The description of Effexor’s side effects goes on for two whole *pages* of fine print! Effing brutal, huh? I’ll pass. It is an EXCELLENT anti-depressant. And if I felt I needed it I’d take again in a heartbeat, side effects be damned.
Easy there…. I wasn’t dumping on the stuff… just expressing (understandable, by my lights) fright. It took a long time to convince myself to take Zoloft, whose side-effect list is not much shorter than Effexor’s. It would doubtless take as long to convince me to take Effexor.
take wellbrutrin as a ‘just in case’ pill and to help me quit smoking. I am mostly stopping it because I was tired of feeling like a sexless lump. Heheh, now I’m just a frisky tired lump, deeeeeep sigh.
I had much the same problem while I took that stuff. Libido *real* good… get-it-uppitiness OK… stamina *nil*.
ps. I forgot to mention the fun ‘clicking’ sound in your head when you move your eyes. whoopie!
Oh, JOY! Do you use 3-D specs and Dolby-surround for added effect? — ((((((((((U)))))))))) Michael <muirh…@island.net
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I have used ALMOST every drug in the previous 50 posts EXCEPT Effexor…Though I may have had a brief stint with that too….I have been on Zoloft now for awhile….The only thing I can say, is I have to make sure to take it as early as possible or it becomes impossible to..you know…I don’t want to be crass…well I do, but I won’t….You know….My Dr said good, It is probably the most exercise u get…:-) Warm Regards and I hope you are all well, Eric Remember Strawberries, Watermellons, Lollipops, Sunshine and Hugs?
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Parnate (Tranylcypromine) and Aurorix I used the Aurorix to have a break from the Parnate but I was on it for too long. It didn’t work as well and I was flat for a few months without realizing that I had pretty serious depression while on an anti depressant. Partly it was what was going on. When looking at the two though, Parnate is a much "dirtier" drug but is said to improve the catecholamines, adrenaline, noradrenaline, dopamine and also serotonin. (as well as who knows what.) In the Aurorix information dopamine isn’t mentioned. I wonder if it is *that* which is the really missing ingredient. btw originally it was prescribed for fatigue. At the time I had euphoria rather than depression. So I wonder about the making of these lists. There is a complication that GPs especially introduce when they prescribed drugs which they know *work* (for some of their patients) for some symptoms. But which aren’t what the authorities or the companies make them for. eg the new anti epileptic drug which in Australia only people with epilepsy could get as a cheap drug. Others had to pay the full price. (PwMS) keep up the good work Paul, Linda http://www.ozemail.com.au/~lindafrd/ remove JUNK from address to reply
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Yup, I agree. I especially hate it when I miss a day, just one day, and I get the withdrawal symptoms, makes you wonder just what’s going on in there eh? But did you know that MS affects the seratonin levels? For me that little tidbit, coupled with my history of depression, and the fact that this disease would make anyone depressed, makes me loathe to stop taking anti-depressants. More of a preventative measure. I know all too well how easily depression can sneak up on you. On Thu, 03 May 2001 16:45:28 GMT, "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home
wrote: I want to get off the dam things because of their horrible addictiveness. I also feel that my body is getting used to them and are finding them not as effective as in the past. They say don’t try to fix whats not broken, but I do think we build up a tolerance to drugs after awhile.
Eliz. _____ There is an angel inside of me whom I am constantly shocking.
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I want to get off the dam things because of their horrible addictiveness. I also feel that my body is getting used to them and are finding them not as effective as in the past. They say don’t try to fix whats not broken, but I do think we build up a tolerance to drugs after awhile. <el…@notathome.com
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High-dose ejaculation is undesirable? Is that because *both* people would have to sleep in the wet spot? <ducking
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Eek! The most I ever took was 75 mg/day! I’ve always been really sensitve to anti-depressants. After TWO weeks I managed to get down to 37.5, now I’m phasing down from that. 4-5 days!?! Holy crap batman. That’s way too fast. Be careful of the tablets – they really burn your guts if you don’t take with a FULL meal. Why did you want to stop taking it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Diane Calder wrote:
Hi Eliz! The doctor tried to wean me off 150 mgs in November over a 4 0r 5 day period. I then was to switch to wellbutrin. Well! besides feeling extremely nauseated, and a horrible sweeping sound in my head, I fell into a major depressive episode. I ended up in the hospital for two weeks with my blood pressure all askew. They put me back on Effexor and now have increased the dose up to 225 mgs. I didn’t know they had the tablet form. How are you doing weaning off Effexor! Are you being succesful? Good luck! Diana <el…@notathome.com wrote in message news:3af0e13e.47811940@news.cis.dfn.de… Diana Calder wrote: Paxil, Zoloft, Elavil, Am now on Effexor which I find great, but hard to wean off of. I too am trying to get off effexor. I am taking
wellbutrin
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get off it. Otherwise the side effects are brutal as you know! Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
Eliz. To paraphrase Oedipus, Hamlet, Lear, and all those guys, "I wish I had known this some time ago." – Corwin, Sign of the Unicorn
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Eliz! You explained coming off Effexor to a tee! As far as the libido side effects, Effexor has been the only antidepresant that has not interfered with that subject for myself. All the others have, especially the prozac family. Anyway! with M.S., the mind says yes and the body says no, or is the other way around! Diana <el…@notathome.com
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Michael wrote: I’m curious here… what *are* the side effects to watch for when kicking Effexor? I remember this feeling of total depersonalization (nothing seemed real, and it was almost as if I was in some sort of a "bubble" that kept the world out,) when kicking a couple of different tricyclics… but never had any difficulty with trazodone or Zoloft. The word ‘discombobulated’ really sums it up. Turn your head too fast and it feels like your brain has become unhinged. Stir in a hefty of dose of bed-spin feeling. I imagine its what a mild concussion would feel like, or a good whollop to the noggin. effing brutal. Ten times worse than the symptoms you get when you start taking it. Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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Close. I believe its "the mind says yes, and the body says f*** off"
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Yup! that analogy is much more fitting! Thanks! Diana <el…@notathome.com
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Hi Eliz! The doctor tried to wean me off 150 mgs in November over a 4 0r 5 day period. I then was to switch to wellbutrin. Well! besides feeling extremely nauseated, and a horrible sweeping sound in my head, I fell into a major depressive episode. I ended up in the hospital for two weeks with my blood pressure all askew. They put me back on Effexor and now have increased the dose up to 225 mgs. I didn’t know they had the tablet form. How are you doing weaning off Effexor! Are you being succesful? Good luck! Diana <el…@notathome.com
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Diana Calder wrote: Paxil, Zoloft, Elavil, Am now on Effexor which I find great, but hard to wean off of. I too am trying to get off effexor. I am taking wellbutrin as well. Have you tried taking the tablet form of effexor? You can break the tablets into smaller and smaller pieces to get off it. Otherwise the side effects are brutal as you know! Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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Hi, I’m preparing a list of medications that people use in MS for my non-profit web site. I’m doing them symptoms by symptom. I’m particularly interested in the brand names as I can always get back to the generic from that and brands vary from country to country. Right now I’m doing anti-depressants. If could people reply to this just saying all the brands of anti-depressant that they have used, even if you’re not using them now, I’d be very grateful. Thanks, Paul http://www.btinternet.com/~ms_pages/
Been on; Prozac (Fluoxetine) Lustral (Sertraline) Dothiepin ( *forgot*) Amitriptylline (generic name) Paroxetine (Seroxat) This latter is the best for me, but has 2 unwelcome effects. 1…Prevents ejaculation at high doses 2…Known withdrawal syndrome ( see www.bnf.org ) HTH, P.
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Michael wrote: I’m curious here… what *are* the side effects to watch for when kicking Effexor? I remember this feeling of total depersonalization (nothing seemed real, and it was almost as if I was in some sort of a "bubble" that kept the world out,) when kicking a couple of different tricyclics… but never had any difficulty with trazodone or Zoloft. The word ‘discombobulated’ really sums it up. Turn your head too fast and it feels like your brain has become unhinged. Stir in a hefty of dose of bed-spin feeling. I imagine its what a mild concussion would feel like, or a good whollop to the noggin. effing brutal. Ten times worse than the symptoms you get when you start taking it.
I just poked through my little (NOT) book of pills… The description of Effexor’s side effects goes on for two whole *pages* of fine print! Effing brutal, huh? I’ll pass. — ((((((((((U)))))))))) Michael <muirh…@island.net
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Michael wrote:
I’m curious here… what *are* the side effects to watch for when kicking Effexor? I remember this feeling of total depersonalization (nothing seemed real, and it was almost as if I was in some sort of a "bubble" that kept the world out,) when kicking a couple of different tricyclics… but never had any difficulty with trazodone or Zoloft.
The word ‘discombobulated’ really sums it up. Turn your head too fast and it feels like your brain has become unhinged. Stir in a hefty of dose of bed-spin feeling. I imagine its what a mild concussion would feel like, or a good whollop to the noggin. effing brutal. Ten times worse than the symptoms you get when you start taking it. Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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Diana Calder wrote:
Paxil, Zoloft, Elavil, Am now on Effexor which I find great, but hard to wean off of.
I too am trying to get off effexor. I am taking wellbutrin as well. Have you tried taking the tablet form of effexor? You can break the tablets into smaller and smaller pieces to get off it. Otherwise the side effects are brutal as you know! Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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wrote in message news:3af0e13e.47811940@news.cis.dfn.de… Diana Calder wrote: Paxil, Zoloft, Elavil, Am now on Effexor which I find great, but hard to wean off of. I too am trying to get off effexor. I am taking wellbutrin as well. Have you tried taking the tablet form of effexor? You can break the tablets into smaller and smaller pieces to get off it. Otherwise the side effects are brutal as you know!
I’m curious here… what *are* the side effects to watch for when kicking Effexor? I remember this feeling of total depersonalization (nothing seemed real, and it was almost as if I was in some sort of a "bubble" that kept the world out,) when kicking a couple of different tricyclics… but never had any difficulty with trazodone or Zoloft. — ((((((((((U)))))))))) Michael <muirh…@island.net
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for my
non-profit web site. I’m doing them symptoms by symptom.
I’m
particularly interested in the brand names as I can always
get back to
the generic from that and brands vary from country to
country.
Right now I’m doing anti-depressants. If could people reply to this just saying all the brands of anti-depressant that they have used, even if you’re not
using them now,
I’d be very grateful. Thanks, Paul http://www.btinternet.com/~ms_pages/
Eliz. _____ As God is my witness, I really thought turkeys could fly. (WKRP in Cincinnati)
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Prozac, Zoloft, Effexor, Trazedone. Not using any now. Didn’t like the so-called "side effects" cc:ng
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Hi, I’m preparing a list of medications that people use in MS for my non-profit web site. I’m doing them symptoms by symptom. I’m particularly interested in the brand names as I can always get back to the generic from that and brands vary from country to country. Right now I’m doing anti-depressants. If could people reply to this just saying all the brands of anti-depressant that they have used, even if you’re not using them now, I’d be very grateful. Thanks, Paul http://www.btinternet.com/~ms_pages/
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Hi, I’m preparing a list of medications that people use in MS for my non-profit web site. I’m doing them symptoms by symptom. I’m particularly interested in the brand names as I can always get back to the generic from that and brands vary from country to country. Right now I’m doing anti-depressants. If could people reply to this just saying all the brands of anti-depressant that they have used, even if you’re not using them now, I’d be very grateful. Thanks, Paul http://www.btinternet.com/~ms_pages/
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Then I decided that this was a legitimate attempt by a well meaning person to provide a new product, and at the same time…make an honest living.
Your sarcasm was appropriate…you were spammed…the kind of people who fall for this MLM crap tend to let themselves be brainwashed into believing what they claim. Check this out… http://www.worldwidescam.com/ http://www.quackwatch.com/
God dang Keith! After looking at those links you put my mind to rest…thanks! Well, you know, she did ADMIT that it was MLM, and….she was chicken to give me the company name. That was some of what got me fired up in the first place. And on top of that, she HAD to have gotten my name out of this support group! I suspect she lurked here, and noticed that I have a big mouth, and decided if she could win me over, then she could "clean up" at the expense of the group members. And THAT is what brought out the rattlesnake in my personality!! Thanks again friend, Mark <somewhere in the deep south bible belt just north of the catholic zone – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Then I decided that this was a legitimate attempt by a well meaning person to provide a new product, and at the same time…make an honest living. Your sarcasm was appropriate…you were spammed…the kind of people who fall for this MLM crap tend to let themselves be brainwashed into believing what they claim. Check this out… http://www.worldwidescam.com/ http://www.quackwatch.com/
Hello: Hello Who?? You send me e mail and you dont even know my name? *Tip- People will usually buy something if you say their favorite word…that being, their name. Remember this. I retired a rich man due to my gift of salesmanship. If you received this post previously, I apologize for the intrusion.
Ok, here….you start out apologizing. Not good. You admit that there is an aspect of incompetence in your record keeping. You admit you dont even know who you have been contacting. I would rethink this also. *Tip- You MUST come up with a way to incorporate first names. I represent a Network Marketing company that just came out with a natural alternative to Prozac, L-5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan).
Ok, very nice and semi-impressive. Big Word, and an abbreviation combined with the number five. Is that the significant molecular combination….or just a cool marketing number. *Tip- I would recommend a double digit number. It sounds more potent. Possibly thirty-seven. Also, are you ashamed of the name of your company, or are planning an illegal activity and I am your target? L-5-HTP is a metabolite of tryptophan; a natural plant extract that raises serotonin levels in the brain without the harmful side effects of pharmaceutical antidepressants like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, etc.
I would never accept this statement without personal research. And also, natural extracts are indeed chemical elements, and can have just as significant a reaction to the body, or dangerous interaction with other medicines as prescription varieties. Once something "natural" is extracted, then it is no longer "natural". It relieves depression, anxiety/panic disorders, OCD, migraine headaches, insomnia, eating disorders, PMS, violent or aggressive tendencies,alcoholism, fibromyalgia, and more.
What about male pattern baldness, La Nina regional drought, irregular tire-tread wear, feline rebellion, bikini tan-lines, and poor cable reception? *Tip- the intelligent reader might find this somewhat exploitive by its probable exaggeration. The less intelligent reader would like to hear about genital enlargement properties. It is being used with great success by healthcare professionals
worldwide. Ok. Tip time again. *If you are going to make such a claim, then why didn’t you go ahead and list references? Such is standard practice by persons who are both professional and sincere. Maybe you are otherwise? If not, then name the "worldwide" healthcare professionals rushing to advocate it. If you would like me to mail you a brochure and more information, I would be happy to send it to you.
Scaaaary! You found me by e mail didn’t you? Then why not make the information available the same way. Could it be….that you would like to have my home address? Would you like to give me yours? How detestible is this? Uh…Very! Sincerely,
I’m not so sure about that right now. Linda Hoffman
I wouldnt mind an e mailed copy of the abstract.
The following discourse is an example of how I started out thinking I was being "spammed" and someone anonymous was trying to get my address. Then I conjected that everyone in the group got this message, and was being exploited. Then I decided that this was a legitimate attempt by a well meaning person to provide a new product, and at the same time…make an honest living. Now I dont know what the hell to think, and I feel like an asshole for being so sarcastic. My need right now is to tell you that my moods are swinging pretty far, and I am uncomfortable in my own skin. One minute I have almost uncontrollable aggression, then I have remorse. Then I have uncertaintly as to which one is appropriate. How do you spell, "chill pill"? Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello: Hello Who?? You send me e mail and you dont even know my name? *Tip- People will usually buy something if you say their favorite word…that being, their name. Remember this. I retired a rich man due to my gift of salesmanship. If you received this post previously, I apologize for the intrusion. Ok, here….you start out apologizing. Not good. You admit that there is an aspect of incompetence in your record keeping. You admit you dont even know who you have been contacting. I would rethink this also. *Tip- You MUST come up with a way to incorporate first names. I represent a Network Marketing company that just came out with a natural alternative to Prozac, L-5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan). Ok, very nice and semi-impressive. Big Word, and an abbreviation combined with the number five. Is that the significant molecular combination….or just a cool marketing number. *Tip- I would recommend a double digit number. It sounds more potent. Possibly thirty-seven. Also, are you ashamed of the name of your company, or are planning an illegal activity and I am your target? L-5-HTP is a metabolite of tryptophan; a natural plant extract that raises serotonin levels in the brain without the harmful side effects of pharmaceutical antidepressants like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, etc. I would never accept this statement without personal research. And also, natural extracts are indeed chemical elements, and can have just as significant a reaction to the body, or dangerous interaction with other medicines as prescription varieties. Once something "natural" is extracted, then it is no longer "natural". It relieves depression, anxiety/panic disorders, OCD, migraine headaches, insomnia, eating disorders, PMS, violent or aggressive tendencies,alcoholism, fibromyalgia, and more. What about male pattern baldness, La Nina regional drought, irregular tire-tread wear, feline rebellion, bikini tan-lines, and poor cable reception? *Tip- the intelligent reader might find this somewhat exploitive by its probable exaggeration. The less intelligent reader would like to hear about genital enlargement properties. It is being used with great success by healthcare professionals worldwide. Ok. Tip time again. *If you are going to make such a claim, then why didn’t you go ahead and list references? Such is standard practice by persons who are both professional and sincere. Maybe you are otherwise? If not, then name the "worldwide" healthcare professionals rushing to advocate it. If you would like me to mail you a brochure and more information, I would be happy to send it to you. Scaaaary! You found me by e mail didn’t you? Then why not make the information available the same way. Could it be….that you would like to have my home address? Would you like to give me yours? How detestible is this? Uh…Very! Sincerely, I’m not so sure about that right now. Linda Hoffman I wouldnt mind an e mailed copy of the abstract.
Writing is a good way to vent, what I sometimes do, …is saving the post to be sent later. I reread them a short time later, edit them to be softer if need be …then send if I still want to respond. I’ve been enjoying your posts, but more because I’m learning about you than seeing the conflicts unfold. Stay relaxed friend, Garland – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The following discourse is an example of how I started out thinking I was being "spammed" and someone anonymous was trying to get my address. Then I conjected that everyone in the group got this message, and was being exploited. Then I decided that this was a legitimate attempt by a well meaning person to provide a new product, and at the same time…make an honest living. Now I dont know what the hell to think, and I feel like an asshole for being so sarcastic. My need right now is to tell you that my moods are swinging pretty far, and I am uncomfortable in my own skin. One minute I have almost uncontrollable aggression, then I have remorse. Then I have uncertaintly as to which one is appropriate. How do you spell, "chill pill"? Mark Hello: Hello Who?? You send me e mail and you dont even know my name? *Tip- People will usually buy something if you say their favorite word…that being, their name. Remember this. I retired a rich man due to my gift of salesmanship. If you received this post previously, I apologize for the intrusion. Ok, here….you start out apologizing. Not good. You admit that there is an aspect of incompetence in your record keeping. You admit you dont even know who you have been contacting. I would rethink this also. *Tip- You MUST come up with a way to incorporate first names. I represent a Network Marketing company that just came out with a natural alternative to Prozac, L-5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan). Ok, very nice and semi-impressive. Big Word, and an abbreviation combined with the number five. Is that the significant molecular combination….or just a cool marketing number. *Tip- I would recommend a double digit number. It sounds more potent. Possibly thirty-seven. Also, are you ashamed of the name of your company, or are planning an illegal activity and I am your target? L-5-HTP is a metabolite of tryptophan; a natural plant extract that raises serotonin levels in the brain without the harmful side effects of pharmaceutical antidepressants like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, etc. I would never accept this statement without personal research. And also, natural extracts are indeed chemical elements, and can have just as significant a reaction to the body, or dangerous interaction with other medicines as prescription varieties. Once something "natural" is extracted, then it is no longer "natural". It relieves depression, anxiety/panic disorders, OCD, migraine headaches, insomnia, eating disorders, PMS, violent or aggressive tendencies,alcoholism, fibromyalgia, and more. What about male pattern baldness, La Nina regional drought, irregular tire-tread wear, feline rebellion, bikini tan-lines, and poor cable reception? *Tip- the intelligent reader might find this somewhat exploitive by its probable exaggeration. The less intelligent reader would like to hear about genital enlargement properties. It is being used with great success by healthcare professionals worldwide. Ok. Tip time again. *If you are going to make such a claim, then why didn’t you go ahead and list references? Such is standard practice by persons who are both professional and sincere. Maybe you are otherwise? If not, then name the "worldwide" healthcare professionals rushing to advocate it. If you would like me to mail you a brochure and more information, I would be happy to send it to you. Scaaaary! You found me by e mail didn’t you? Then why not make the information available the same way. Could it be….that you would like to have my home address? Would you like to give me yours? How detestible is this? Uh…Very! Sincerely, I’m not so sure about that right now. Linda Hoffman I wouldnt mind an e mailed copy of the abstract.
Deb, When I first started Zoloft, I had migraines for about the first two weeks. My Dr. told me tha this is a very common side effect of Zoloft and does subside after about two weeks….It was very very hard those first two weeks, but I managed to survive it, and after that, was fine….to this day, don’t know how I did survive it ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife. I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac. Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona
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Yikes! Migraines for two weeks?!?!?! How awful for you. I take 150 mgs of Zoloft daily and my experience has been good. No headaches. No decrease at all in either sexual desire or the ability to achieve orgasm (my lover has always said I am the most orgasmic woman he’s ever known… I attribute this to his skill <g). Also, the Zoloft has not unduly affected my appetite, which is good since I run to the underweight side anyway. Prozac and Paxil both killed my appetite completely. Of course, everyone is affected differently.
One of the most reported side effects of Prozac (or any SSRI) is that of sexual dysfunction. The higher the dose, the more likely you will experience this side effect. So….if RSD does cause sexual dysfunction…and…the large amount of Prozac you are taking causes sexual dysfunction… Well, it seems like you’re dealing with a double whammy. Hope you are able to take something like Viagra to overcome this! Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The prozac was prescribed by Dr. Robert L. Knobler, One of the foremost authorities in RSD and neurological diseases. If you care to dispute that with him, feel free to do so. He is an MD, Phd, psychiatrist and the professor of neurology at the Thomas Jefferson College Of Medicine. In Philadelphia, Pa. Julio This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
Deb, I’m not a Pharmacist, but I did take Prozac on two different occasions, and do know some. A dose of 60mg daily of Prozac is a good healthy dose. Many people start off at 20mg and stay there for a long time or indefinitely. Also Prozac can take 6-8 weeks before it starts working, so you may not have given it enough time. Remember, that 6-8 weeks is an average…some may respond faster, while others take longer to respond. May I ask, who Rx’ed the Prozac to you? Someone else just posted about higher doses should really only be Rx’ed by a Psychiatrist who knows all about the drugs. On the other hand, Prozac just may not have been the drug for you. I have been on different Antidepressants (AD’s) over the years, be it for pain, depression, or both (some of the AD’s are also used to treat pain…Elavil, the other tricyclics, ad a new one out called Effexor, which is what I take now….). Some have worked well, while others didn’t do a thing. Paxil didn’t work at all for me, while Zoloft worked well, but stopped working completely after about two years, even after increasing the dose. Hope this has helped some…please email me off list if I can help you with anythihng else, or you just want to chat, vent, whatever ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
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One anti depressant that isn’t supposed to affect libido is Wellbutrin….. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call. Uh … wait. Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info 
deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
I am in no way a physician or any other type of medical professional. I am just speaking from personal experience or information gained during my treatment or research ;o). Remove NOSPAM from the above email address to contact me.
Joani I read your post and had to giggle thanks for the uplifting post and I couldn’t agree with you more even at 44 Your the best deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead! If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!! Joani
K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call. Uh … wait. Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife. I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac. Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona
I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead! If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!! Joani
The only anti-depressants that I’ve tried were the tricyclics (but I went through over a half-dozen of them) and in anything near an effective dosage, libido wasn’t the only problem — every one of them (and the others I suppose too) are psycho-active drugs and every one of them produces personality changes, after all, they ARE psycho-active drugs. The common side-effects are loss of libido, a general tranquilizing effect (that can be quite severe), and a sometimes separate loss of "will-power". And several of them also have cardiac side effects too. I also found that with Elavil (amytriptaline ?sp?) that the dry-mouth was intolerable in the dosage I required (100 mg). Norm
Howard thanks a million for your input! deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard Aloha! Oh my! Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so. Maybe not. Alohas! Suse (*_*) -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –
Ty thanks for the input I know I have alot of side affects from different ones.. weight gain to headaches etc and I was just trying to get all the imput possible before asking the dr for another type. deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty
Each antidepressant is a little different, and individual reactions differ, but Luvox is very similar to Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and others. It is prescribed less often because it is more likely to cause problems with nausea, and it is only labled for obsessive-compulsive disorder, though this is stricly a marketing ploy. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
Prozac is well-known to reduce sexual interest, interfere with orgasm, etc. Same is true for other members of Prozac family, including Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, probably Effexor. Celexa might be better. Not clear yet. Other antidepressants don’t interfere with sexual interest, but the "tricyclic antidepressants" do often cause weight gain. Elavil, Tofranil, Pamelor, and others. (These are brand names. They have all gone generic, but the generics are harder to spell. amitriptylene is one of them. nortriptylene is another. imipramine is a third.) Antidepressants that don’t often cause weight gain and don’t normally interfere with sexual interest include Serzone and Wellbutrin, also Remeron, but watch out for weight gain, and trazadone (brand name is Desyrel). Maybe a few others I didn’t think of. There is a recent trend to help chronic pain sufferers with Depakote and Neurontin, particularly Neurontin. It’s labeled as an anticonvulsant, but has several good psychiatric uses. HTH. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife. I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac. Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona
Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife. I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac. Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona
If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha! Oh my! Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so. Maybe not. Alohas! Suse (*_*) -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –
Hello Everyone I hope you all are having a pain free day.. My question is can anyone give me advice about anti-depressants that do not mess up your sexual urges? Thanks deb/fl
Aloha!
Oh my! Is this a chicken and egg question?
Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing.
So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so. Maybe not.
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Thanks Suse I was also under this impression however I have heard that they have new meds on the market that help with that problem I have seen the commercials on tv about it and just wondered if anyone from the group had tried any of them and how they thought they worked compared to the conventional anti-depressants deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha! Oh my! Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so. Maybe not. Alohas! Suse (*_*) -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –
Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.
I was put on Buspar (worked up to 30mg/day) in March of this year. I never saw any significant change in my anxiety or PAs since so in Sept. I decided to ween myself off (my doctor said okay) of it. Has Buspar helped anyone in any way? The only thing I found that it helped was my migraine headaches. They seemed to decline amazingly while on it, but I really can’t be sure that it wasn’t related to something else. Thanks!
I recently started taking Buspar after a very bad experience with Prozac. I’ve tried other meds like Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, and even St. John’s Wort. Nothing worked to get rid of my headaches or took me out of a withdrawn state (if anyone reads this, have you ever felt like you were in a fog, couldn’t concentrate, and just lost the "zest", if so, tell me about it.) So far my 10mgs/day of Buspar seems to be helping but it really has only been less than a week…any advice?