<Has anyone had this experience? has anyone tried Zyrtec? (also prescribed <today). <thanks My son takes Zyrtec. It has been the most helpful allergy medicine he’s taken to date. He gets good relief within a half hour after taking it. It made him extremely tired for a few weeks, now he doesn’t suffer that symptom. Hulahoops
Singulair has helped my allergies and overall congestion. Can sleep at night. Asthma is under control. Best of all, I use inhaler twice a day and thus avoid inhaler jitters. It has made a big difference in my life and have noticed no side effects. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In the last couple week my sinuses have gone crazy, occaisionally affecting my asthma. I have trouble sleeping with these new antihistamine/decongestants so they create other problems. I saw the pulminologist today and he suggested that I try singulair. I have already tried accolate and had little results. Dr. suggested that there is some evidence that singulair helps allergies/ sinus as well. Has anyone had this experience? has anyone tried Zyrtec? (also prescribed today). thanks
My eight year old son was on Singulair for a while and it helped both his asthma and his sinus troubles. He also has fibromyalgia and has a hard time getting a good nights sleep. On the Singulair he slept 14 to 15 hours a night. I thought of Singulair as a God send. But then he developed a possible side effect. His white blood cell count went down to 2.6. His allergist and the hemotologist had me take him off the Singulair since it is such a new medication. His white count has now come back up so he can’t go back on the Singulair. I wrote to the company about this. All they told me was to discuss it with the doctor. I had written to them that that is what I did and just wanted to make them aware of the possible side effect. It was if they hadn’t really read my letter at all. They said if I gave them my address they would send me some materials. I did so about 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive anything. I just thought I’d make you all aware of this possible side effect again. I have posted about it once or twice before. Janice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I started Singulair a month ago; it has been very effective for my asthma, allowing me to cut my inhaled steroid in half and improving peak flows; also helps my hay fever (rhinitis), allowing me to reduce my steroid nasal spray. Singulair has neglible side effects in most people; a child’ version is available. Here’s a link on Singulair & Claritin for rhinitis (allergies): http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/61c72.htm Excerpt:
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In the last couple week my sinuses have gone crazy, occaisionally affecting my asthma. I have trouble sleeping with these new antihistamine/decongestants so they create other problems. I saw the pulminologist today and he suggested that I try singulair. I have already tried accolate and had little results. Dr. suggested that there is some evidence that singulair helps allergies/ sinus as well. Has anyone had this experience? has anyone tried Zyrtec? (also prescribed today).
I started Singulair a month ago; it has been very effective for my asthma, allowing me to cut my inhaled steroid in half and improving peak flows; also helps my hay fever (rhinitis), allowing me to reduce my steroid nasal spray. Singulair has neglible side effects in most people; a child’ version is available. Here’s a link on Singulair & Claritin for rhinitis (allergies): http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/61c72.htm Excerpt: "AAAAI MEETING: Singulair And Loratadine Reduce Hay Fever Symptoms WASHINGTON, MD — March 16, 1998 — The results of an investigational study presented yesterday at the 54th annual meeting of the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology showed that Singulair(R) (montelukast sodium) administered with the antihistamine loratadine significantly reduced symptoms in patients who suffered from seasonal allergic rhinitis, commonly known as hay fever. In this investigational study, Singulair and loratadine, when used alone, each decreased daytime nasal symptoms (stuffy, runny, itchy nose and sneezing) by 16 percent. When taken together, Singulair and loratadine decreased nasal symptoms by 28 percent. There was a 12 percent reduction in daytime nasal symptoms with placebo. Loratadine (marketed by Schering-Plough as Claritin(R)) is indicated for the relief of nasal and non-nasal symptoms of seasonal allergic rhinitis." All contents Copyright (c) 1998 PSL Consulting Group Inc. All rights reserved. Ellis
In the last couple week my sinuses have gone crazy, occaisionally affecting my asthma. I have trouble sleeping with these new antihistamine/decongestants so they create other problems. I saw the pulminologist today and he suggested that I try singulair. I have already tried accolate and had little results. Dr. suggested that there is some evidence that singulair helps allergies/ sinus as well. Has anyone had this experience? has anyone tried Zyrtec? (also prescribed today). thanks
Actually, the story is a bit more complicated. He was supposed to start on 10 mg, go to 20 mg (10×2) in a week, then 30 (10×3). The pharmacy goofed and put 18s in the bottle, so he started on 18. He experienced almost immediate positive affects, in terms of behavior in school. But he also was having drowsy spells and stomach aches, and sometimes just seems drugged up – he falls asleep in the car for the first time since he was an infant. Fortunately, we noticed the error before it was time for him to take two, and immediately cut him back to 10. Which brings us to our present circumstances – side effects with 18, insufficient effects with 10. During his time with me this summer, I have chosen to give him 10 – he has more chance for physical exercise, and less requirement to be still and attentive. But I’m more interested in determining a good long-term solution for him, and none has been forthcoming from his physicial or Lilly.
You need to give the drug time, a few weeks, before you will know what staying side effects will be. Drowsiness and stomach aches are common on reuptake inhibitors and often go away with time. You have raised another issue as regards the four hour half life. His physician’s solution to the side-effects was to suggest he take the medication in the evening. I was concerned that he was still being overmedicated, but just sleeping through the symptoms. But I am now further concerned that by giving him the medication in the evening, most of the effect is wasted, thus requiring a higher dosage to maintain the effect. Also, his physician said that it builds up in the blood, but this is also apparently wrong. More info on half-life and other issues at: http://www.mosbysdrugconsult.com/DrugConsult/003578.html
Taking it at night to avoid drowsiness during the day is a good idea and often helps reduce drowsiness – not always, but sometimes. Taking it at night will make no difference to its positive effects. With reuptake inhibitors, the blood half life has little to do with the positive effect. However, it may have a lot to do with side effects. These are nothing like stimulants where you only have an effect while it is in your blood. Reuptake inhibitors can take weeks before the drugs start having the effect you want, and after you quit can take a long time to stop "working" also. Just follow your doctors orders and stop panicking.
The pharmacy goofed and put 18s in the bottle, so he started on 18. He experienced almost immediate positive affects, in terms of behavior in school. But he also was having drowsy spells and stomach aches, and sometimes just seems drugged up – he falls asleep in the car for the first time since he was an infant. Fortunately, we noticed the error before it was time for him to take two, and immediately cut him back to 10. Which brings us to our present circumstances – side effects with 18, insufficient effects with 10.
In our experience (our son is 10) the side effects you mentioned go away pretty quickly — and were greatly lessened by dosing at night (which we still do). The medication has been very helpful for us. I suggest you go back to 18 and take it at night. In time, you may be able to switch to morning dosing (we may do this when school starts; right now bedtime is a much more predictable time than morning is.) -Dawn Mom to Henry, 10
Actually, the story is a bit more complicated. He was supposed to start on 10 mg, go to 20 mg (10×2) in a week, then 30 (10×3). The pharmacy goofed and put 18s in the bottle, so he started on 18. He experienced almost immediate positive affects, in terms of behavior in school. But he also was having drowsy spells and stomach aches, and sometimes just seems drugged up – he falls asleep in the car for the first time since he was an infant. Fortunately, we noticed the error before it was time for him to take two, and immediately cut him back to 10. Which brings us to our present circumstances – side effects with 18, insufficient effects with 10. During his time with me this summer, I have chosen to give him 10 – he has more chance for physical exercise, and less requirement to be still and attentive. But I’m more interested in determining a good long-term solution for him, and none has been forthcoming from his physicial or Lilly. You have raised another issue as regards the four hour half life. His physician’s solution to the side-effects was to suggest he take the medication in the evening. I was concerned that he was still being overmedicated, but just sleeping through the symptoms. But I am now further concerned that by giving him the medication in the evening, most of the effect is wasted, thus requiring a higher dosage to maintain the effect. Also, his physician said that it builds up in the blood, but this is also apparently wrong. More info on half-life and other issues at: http://www.mosbysdrugconsult.com/DrugConsult/003578.html
Actually, the story is a bit more complicated. He was supposed to start on 10 mg, go to 20 mg (10×2) in a week, then 30 (10×3). The pharmacy goofed and put 18s in the bottle, so he started on 18. He experienced almost immediate positive affects, in terms of behavior in school. But he also was having drowsy spells and stomach aches, and sometimes just seems drugged up – he falls asleep in the car for the first time since he was an infant.
Is he sleeping the night through? One side effect some people experience with Strattera is that it interrupts their sleep. I wasn’t able to sleep more than 3 hours at a stretch when I was on it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fortunately, we noticed the error before it was time for him to take two, and immediately cut him back to 10. Which brings us to our present circumstances – side effects with 18, insufficient effects with 10. During his time with me this summer, I have chosen to give him 10 – he has more chance for physical exercise, and less requirement to be still and attentive. But I’m more interested in determining a good long-term solution for him, and none has been forthcoming from his physicial or Lilly. You have raised another issue as regards the four hour half life. His physician’s solution to the side-effects was to suggest he take the medication in the evening. I was concerned that he was still being overmedicated, but just sleeping through the symptoms. But I am now further concerned that by giving him the medication in the evening, most of the effect is wasted, thus requiring a higher dosage to maintain the effect. Also, his physician said that it builds up in the blood, but this is also apparently wrong. More info on half-life and other issues at: http://www.mosbysdrugconsult.com/DrugConsult/003578.html
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So far as I know, he is sleeping through the night. The problem we’re having is that when he takes 18 mg, he is often drowsy during the day. The doctor’s solution to this was to switch to giving him the medication at dinner instead of breakfast. This seems foolish to me, though – Strattera levels peak in 1-2 hours, and it has a half-life of 5.2 hours. So by morning, 3/4 of the medication is gone. Seems better to me to give him the medication two hours before school for maximum effect. However, the Lilly support rep said that effects of Strattera persist after blood levels drop – she said they suspect it stays in the brain after it is gone from the blood, but they aren’t sure about this. I am leaning toward morning administration on an empty stomach, and we’ll see how that goes. I just wish there were more authoritative guidance on this.
My 7 year old son has been using Strattera for about a month, with reportedly good effects. Unfortunately, it seems that 10 mg is not enough for him, but 18 mg produces substantial side-effects. Since there is no such thing as 14 mg, and you can’t break the capsules, does anyone have any experience with daily alternating between 10 and 18 mg? His physician is making contradictory statements – on the one hand, you must never miss a day on Strattera because it builds up in your blood – but on the other hand, alternating dosages will create huge swings in effect. It seems to me that if it’s a cumulative buildup, there should be very little swinging induced by alternating doses. Lilly says they have no information on this since it wasn’t part of their clinical trial.
What are the side effects? If he has only been on 18mg for a week, that is probably not long enough to judge the side effects. With these types of drugs, often the initial side effects go away. Maybe not, but I would give it more than two weeks and then start looking at the side effects. The half-life of Strattera is only about 4 hours. So, you wont get any smoothing out of blood levels by alternating doses. You start fresh every day with Strattera. Thats not to say other mechanisms besides blood levels wont smooth out somehow. I dont know. This page is where I found the half-life: http://lists.chadd-mc.org/pipermail/chadd-mc/2002-November/000063.html For me, the nausea side effects from Effexor (which partly inhibits the reuptake of norepinephrine like Strattra dose) went away in a few days. The sleepy side effects never went away. I doubt you will know ahead of time if alternating between 10 and 18 would work. Some of the side effects happen immediately, others take time. Going from 10mg to 18, you would be taking almost double the dose every other day. You would NEVER do this with Effexor, for example – because you would be nauseous and have a headache every day. You would go though withdrawal on the half-dose days, and experience the side effects of the increased dose on the double-dose days. At least with Effexor, and other anti-depressants (I cant say about Strattera) its very important to have a steady dose. Any variation only causes more side effects. You probably can open the capsule and remove 22% of the contents. Doctors rarely let you do this because they dont trust you to do it right. And, some of them may mistakenly believe you will disrupt the absorption or time-release functions of the capsule. Anyone with any sense of statistics would see this is not a problem except for specialized capsules like Concerta. But, Strattera is not a time-release capsule anyway. And there would be no change in absorption. Again, I am curious, what are the side effects? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My 7 year old son has been using Strattera for about a month, with reportedly good effects. Unfortunately, it seems that 10 mg is not enough for him, but 18 mg produces substantial side-effects. Since there is no such thing as 14 mg, and you can’t break the capsules, does anyone have any experience with daily alternating between 10 and 18 mg? His physician is making contradictory statements – on the one hand, you must never miss a day on Strattera because it builds up in your blood – but on the other hand, alternating dosages will create huge swings in effect. It seems to me that if it’s a cumulative buildup, there should be very little swinging induced by alternating doses. Lilly says they have no information on this since it wasn’t part of their clinical trial.
Yoga can help to relax. Meditation is mehtode for relaxation. More active and proven to be helpful with depression is running. I only have a link to a dutch site about running therapie, but i’m sure ther will be more in your language if you’ll seek with a searchengine Take Care and Good Luck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello there, Having recently being diagnosed with depression and anxiety, I have started to regularly take my zoloft, xanax and risperdal. They kinda work, although the strange skin sensitivity (imaginary I guess) and the hair-loss (very actual, I am afraid) continue. But I feel not-so-down 
Browsing through the newsgroup, I found some tips about things we can do to help ourselves. Any ideas anyone? Or any URLs to study? I would try *anything*. For example physical excercise, mentioned in one of the previous messages, seems to be a good idea. Do you favor weight lifting or something more on the aerobic kind? All ideas welcomed and needed. Regards, Sofia (Athens-Greece)
9:46 AM: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello there, Having recently being diagnosed with depression and anxiety, I have started to regularly take my zoloft, xanax and risperdal. They kinda work, although the strange skin sensitivity (imaginary I guess) and the hair-loss (very actual, I am afraid) continue. But I feel not-so-down Browsing through the newsgroup, I found some tips about things we can do to help ourselves. Any ideas anyone? Or any URLs to study? I would try *anything*. For example physical excercise, mentioned in one of the previous messages, seems to be a good idea. Do you favor weight lifting or something more on the aerobic kind? All ideas welcomed and needed. Regards, Sofia (Athens-Greece)
either weight-lifting or aerobics or anything else that you enjoy and will do regularly will help you. I go for walks. i like walking because it doesn’t require special equipment or training, and walking can take me to new places at a pace that will allow me to see my surrondings. but that’s me. back in college i took ballet as an exercise class, and always felt better afterward. also food: it is pretty well documented now that food which contains omega-3 fatty acids help with depression. the best sources are fish like tuna and salmon (but not the farmed salmon, it has to be wild). their might be other sources, but i don’t remember them. if you do a search on google.com, then you’ll probably find more than you need to know. good luck. Erminia
All ideas welcomed and needed.
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Hello there, Having recently being diagnosed with depression and anxiety, I have started to regularly take my zoloft, xanax and risperdal. They kinda work, although the strange skin sensitivity (imaginary I guess) and the hair-loss (very actual, I am afraid) continue. But I feel not-so-down Browsing through the newsgroup, I found some tips about things we can do to help ourselves. Any ideas anyone? Or any URLs to study? I would try *anything*. For example physical excercise, mentioned in one of the previous messages, seems to be a good idea. Do you favor weight lifting or something more on the aerobic kind? All ideas welcomed and needed. Regards, Sofia (Athens-Greece)
Thanks guys, these advices are very interesting. I’ll try running asap, although I am scared that it might let the mind unfocused to hover towards unpleasent thoughts. Swimming definitely did that. Maybe dancing is more appropriate for me.. Thanks again
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello there, Having recently being diagnosed with depression and anxiety, I have started to regularly take my zoloft, xanax and risperdal. They kinda work, although the strange skin sensitivity (imaginary I guess) and the hair-loss (very actual, I am afraid) continue. But I feel not-so-down Browsing through the newsgroup, I found some tips about things we can do to help ourselves. Any ideas anyone? Or any URLs to study? I would try *anything*. For example physical excercise, mentioned in one of the previous messages, seems to be a good idea. Do you favor weight lifting or something more on the aerobic kind?
I have been going to the local fitness center for over a year now. They recommended a program of both strength training and aerobics. I go three times a week and use the Nautilus machines for strength training and then use a treadmill for 30 minutes of aerobics. I definitely feel better after each session. I am more relaxed and problems seem to disappear or be less of a strain on me. (And, in addition it is very healthy.) Another thing is to do things that keep your mind focused. For example, I am better off being online and actively involved in news groups or editing photographs or chatting than I am to be watching TV. My therapist has helped me to realize that we all need to have meaningful things to do- meaningful to us. Stan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All ideas welcomed and needed. Regards, Sofia (Athens-Greece)
:My shrink has started me on 20mg though I’m having a rough time with it. I’m :trying to stay away from benzos. I got some with me but never take it due to :the addictive nature of the drug. Not to say that AD drugs aren’t addictive :unlike the shrink says. I take Cipramil at night to help with sleeping a bit :due to its sedative effect. :How r u going with your problems? Dear Wiseguy, Please call your doctor and ask about lowering your celexa dose and weaning slower, especially that you are trying to stay away from benzos. There is no reason to suffer like this. I read in your reply to Vanessa that you recently broke up with your fiancee over her inability to deal with your disorder. I`m so sorry about that. My husband isn`t very understanding about my disorder and it has caused a lot of problems too. {{{{{Wiseguy}}}}} Jackie ~*~I am of nothing special; of this I am sure. I am a common man with common thoughts, and I’ve led a common life. There are no monuments dedicated to me and my name will soon be forgotten, but I’ve loved another with all my heart and soul, and to me, this has always been enough~*~ ~Nicholas Sparks~
Hi Wiseguy, Sorry to hear about the break-up with your fiance. It is so hard for our partners and loved ones to understand, hey it’s hard for *us* to understand it all. I’ve been married 14 years and my condition has really tested our relationship many times. I must be one of the lucky ones as my husband comes along to therapy with me and supports me as best he can even though he doesn’t understand it. I am doing really well, thanks for asking. No panic attack for 3 months now, yipeee. Still some anxiety here and there but I can live with that. I am working 3 days per week and enjoying it, instead of dreading each day. I went to see my husband in the World Masters Games here in Melbourne last week, and I didn’t get anxious as i thought I might….sunny day….lots of people….open spaces….eeek, enough to normally keep me away or get tied up in knots. So you work at Quantas huh? Going back to work may bring some routine back to your life. It’s great that you are looking forward to it, great positive attitude, especially after all you have been through. Are you happy with you shrink? Other than prescribing meds does she give you any CBT therapy – may not be for you but it worked great for my problems. Can’t comment on your med as I have never taken ssri’s, I do take rivotril (clonazepam) which is a benzo, has helped me but you are different and you need to work out the combo and treatment that works best for you. Let us know how you are going – side effects etc. Other posters take the med you are on now (celexa) so am sure they can advise better than me. best wishes, Vanessa )
Hi Vanessa, thanks for asking. My pulpatations seemed to be in connection with the EFFEXOR XR so I’ve been told to change over. So now it’s a waiting game again. Getting off EFFEXOR XR was hell for me, I didn’t know they’re so addictive unlike what the shrink told me. Getting on Cipramil wasn’t fun either. Started off on 20mg straight out so I’m still getting used to it altough I seem to feel a bit better. As far as checking my pulse, that shoul wear off as my heart rate goes down hence reducing further anxiety. It hasn’t been the best of times for me, broke up with my fiancee of almost 5 years because she wasn’t understanding with this so she couldn’t put up with me anymore. As for now I’m a bit deppressed but trying to have a positive attitude about things though things arn’t so bright at the moment. I’m looking forward to going back to work to QANTAS next month after taking 3 months off. Hows thing with you if I may ask? Thanx
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All i know is that it’s an SSRI, used mainly for anxiety, depression and OCD. Good to see you posting again wiseguy. Sorry to hear you are still suffering from anxiety/panic and have had side effects from the meds you have tried. How are your heart palpitations going? Are you still checking your heart rate as often as you used to? Vanessa ) Hi everyone. I haven’t posted for a while but I have a queation. I have just started on Cipramil for anxiety and panic disorder after having tried Aurorix and Effexor XR with no luck and a lot of side effects. Anyone have any info or experience with Cipramil? Thank You all
Hi Jackie, My shrink has started me on 20mg though I’m having a rough time with it. I’m trying to stay away from benzos. I got some with me but never take it due to the addictive nature of the drug. Not to say that AD drugs aren’t addictive unlike the shrink says. I take Cipramil at night to help with sleeping a bit due to its sedative effect. How r u going with your problems? Thanx and may God be with you all.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :Hi everyone. I haven’t posted for a while but I have a queation. I have just :started on Cipramil for anxiety and panic disorder after having tried :Aurorix and Effexor XR with no luck and a lot of side effects. : :Anyone have any info or experience with Cipramil? : :Thank You all Dear Wiseguy, I hope your doctor is starting you at a low dose and weaning you slowly onto the celexa. Usual starting dose for people with anxiety disorder is 5mgs, increasing that dose every week or so until you reach the prescribed dose. It is also a common practice to use a benzo such as xanax or klonopin while weaning on antidepressants. Give the celexa 6 to 8 weeks to kick in. Make sure to take it with food and/or water as to prevent any stomach irritation that some antidepressants can cause. You may also have to experiment with the time you take the dose to see what works best for you. I wish you much luck with your new med Jackie ~*~I am of nothing special; of this I am sure. I am a common man with common thoughts, and I’ve led a common life. There are no monuments dedicated to me and my name will soon be forgotten, but I’ve loved another with all my heart and soul, and to me, this has always been enough~*~ ~Nicholas Sparks~
Hi everyone. I haven’t posted for a while but I have a queation. I have just started on Cipramil for anxiety and panic disorder after having tried Aurorix and Effexor XR with no luck and a lot of side effects. Anyone have any info or experience with Cipramil? Thank You all
All i know is that it’s an SSRI, used mainly for anxiety, depression and OCD. Good to see you posting again wiseguy. Sorry to hear you are still suffering from anxiety/panic and have had side effects from the meds you have tried. How are your heart palpitations going? Are you still checking your heart rate as often as you used to? Vanessa ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone. I haven’t posted for a while but I have a queation. I have just started on Cipramil for anxiety and panic disorder after having tried Aurorix and Effexor XR with no luck and a lot of side effects. Anyone have any info or experience with Cipramil? Thank You all
:Hi everyone. I haven’t posted for a while but I have a queation. I have just :started on Cipramil for anxiety and panic disorder after having tried :Aurorix and Effexor XR with no luck and a lot of side effects. : :Anyone have any info or experience with Cipramil? : :Thank You all Dear Wiseguy, I hope your doctor is starting you at a low dose and weaning you slowly onto the celexa. Usual starting dose for people with anxiety disorder is 5mgs, increasing that dose every week or so until you reach the prescribed dose. It is also a common practice to use a benzo such as xanax or klonopin while weaning on antidepressants. Give the celexa 6 to 8 weeks to kick in. Make sure to take it with food and/or water as to prevent any stomach irritation that some antidepressants can cause. You may also have to experiment with the time you take the dose to see what works best for you. I wish you much luck with your new med Jackie ~*~I am of nothing special; of this I am sure. I am a common man with common thoughts, and I’ve led a common life. There are no monuments dedicated to me and my name will soon be forgotten, but I’ve loved another with all my heart and soul, and to me, this has always been enough~*~ ~Nicholas Sparks~
if you have a brookstone store in your area, you may want to check them out. i don’t remember catching the site soma suggested, but what about this one? http://www.brookstoneonline.com/ you may be able to find the location of the store nearest you that way too….and if they don’t have one in stock they can call around for you–part of the perk of going to an overly expensive store. Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Interesting suggestions Julie. Personally I can sleep in any temperature — warm, cold, in-between, but I can’t stand to get out of bed if it’s cold! (I personally believe that all mammals, including humans, should hibernate in the winter. *g*) We tend to keep the temperature in our house relatively constant. As for the compressed air cans with horns, that’s pretty much what my current alarm clock sounds like! (I had one in college in my dorm that you could actually hear all the way down the hall.) I usually need them that loud to wake me up, but I’ve gotten to the point (in my old age) where the noise really is starting to annoy me. I’m looking for a more "gentle" way to wake up that will still be effective. Music won’t do it for me unless it’s blasting (and that’s not very gentle either). The dawn simulator alarm clocks are terribly expensive … and apparently hard to come by this time of year! The site soma referred to is sold out til 12/1. I found some other sites that carry them — the company that manufactures them sells them for "only" $99.00, but they’re sold out indefinitely. Obviously this is the wrong time of year to be looking! I’m thinking that it might be worth a try though — they do have a 30-day money back guarantee if they don’t work. i too get the same way come the cold winter months….the one thing hubby and i have come up with believe it or not works really well for some strange reason. since both of us like to sleep with the air temp in the home quite chilly–about 65F or so and have a prob sleeping when it’s warm–above 72F, what we decided to do (also since he has no problems at getting up at the crack of dawn–read:5:00 amish) was keep the temp low at night, and since he gets up so much earlier than i do, he just cranks up the heat to about 72ish when he gets out of bed. since it doesn’t take all that long for the place to warm up, and i can’t sleep when it’s too warm (i’m repeating myself, i know)…i am usually up by 6:30 at the latest….besides nothing beats coming out of the shower to a nice warm environment. after i’ve recharged my body temp in the shower, i turn the heat back down. it works really well, and since neither of us really want to actually shell out the $100 or so for the sunrise alarm clock…..well, you see where this is going. another thing i’ve done in the past, and still do, is use an alarm clock that plays tapes. it’s really nice because i put on the music i like and actually want to listen to instead of talk on the usual morning shows. granted my problem is that the morning show i used to listen to was cancelled and they are now in richmond virginia–anyone in richmond who listens to bender & jackie knows what i’m talking about. maybe those are some options you haven’t looked into? if all else fails, what about those cans of compressed air that have the horns on them? they’ll scare you awake…all you need is someone to use it for you in the am. Julie I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work. While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 — KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato. — KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato.
i tried using a grow light for plants since it is supposed to emulate sunlight. it actually works pretty well, and keeps me warm too (added bonus). just a thought for you Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I totally know what you mean with the air raid sirens. I’m a pretty light sleeper in the morning, but that doesn’t stop me from rolling over and falling back to sleep if it’s still dark. It’s just annoying to wake up to a buzzer or a beeper, or worse yet, the radio. It makes my heart pound and I start shaking before I even get out of bed. (I have a severe essential tremor in my hands.) So waking up to the light works much better for me. :-) I also wondered how they worked and went out on a limb when I bought it, which is why I thought I’d post about it. Might as well save someone else the anguish of shelling out that much dough for an alarm clock without knowing if it will work. I found the clock while doing searches on SAD, because I knew what I wanted, I just couldn’t remember what it was called. I don’t have SAD either, but like you, I do find that my energy level decreases a lot in the fall and winter because it’s so dark. Plus I work in a windowless room all day long! Bleh! Maybe next I’ll get some high-intensity light bulbs for a lamp on my desk! :-) Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 Y2K 60/2000 I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work.
I won’t ask what kind of plants Julie <wink Betty i tried using a grow light for plants since it is supposed to emulate sunlight. it actually works pretty well, and keeps me warm too (added bonus). just a thought for you Julie
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hehe, tropical….and no funny sharp looking leaves…..cactus actually. (although technically the poker things are sharp funny looking leaves, but not the kind you mean) J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I won’t ask what kind of plants Julie <wink Betty i tried using a grow light for plants since it is supposed to emulate sunlight. it actually works pretty well, and keeps me warm too (added bonus). just a thought for you Julie Stroll to Goal Barmaid remove the bs to email 255 low fat-cal/249 Atkins/240/150 or Size 9 whichever comes first! On Atkins since 8/22/99
I won’t ask what kind of plants Julie <wink Betty
I’m glad to see I’m not the only one whose mind went there. I knew I could always count on you Betty! Ismile 138/119/115 (for now) Y2K: 250 minutes aerobic; 80 minutes weight lifting; 330 minutes total Don’t exchange what you want most for what you want at the moment.
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Betty I’m glad to see I’m not the only one whose mind went there. I knew I could always count on you Betty! Ismile 138/119/115 (for now) Y2K: 250 minutes aerobic; 80 minutes weight lifting; 330 minutes total Don’t exchange what you want most for what you want at the moment.
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But think of what it would do to your appetite, Betty, my love! Jacqueline 180/148/140 It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I could use a few my self-heaven forbid they should legalize it so those who suffer pain would get some relief!! Betty I think I need some of them "natural herbs" …. :) IS Manager: Delete the "not.at." to reply 138/130/120 Y2K Areobics 60 minutes … I’m trying, just can’t find the time or motivation Stroll to Goal Barmaid remove the bs to email 255 low fat-cal/249 Atkins/240/150 or Size 9 whichever comes first! On Atkins since 8/22/99
I’m with the legalization thing. I sprained both my ankles and left foot simultaneously once, to the point of hemmorhage. I am not sure I could have got through the first few days but for a friend’s gift of some good Hawaiian stuff. When needed it is highly effective. Cynthia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I could use a few my self-heaven forbid they should legalize it so those who suffer pain would get some relief!! Betty
tsk tsk tsk, besides those herbs do nothing for me anyway. BTDT, useless…. Julie (smiling innocently, nope, not that innocently) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I figured she might be growing some "natural herbs" to calm her nerves these days Betty I’m glad to see I’m not the only one whose mind went there. I knew I could always count on you Betty! Ismile 138/119/115 (for now) Y2K: 250 minutes aerobic; 80 minutes weight lifting; 330 minutes total Don’t exchange what you want most for what you want at the moment. Stroll to Goal Barmaid remove the bs to email 255 low fat-cal/249 Atkins/240/150 or Size 9 whichever comes first! On Atkins since 8/22/99
I could use a few my self-heaven forbid they should legalize it so those who suffer pain would get some relief!! Betty I think I need some of them "natural herbs" …. :) IS Manager: Delete the "not.at." to reply 138/130/120 Y2K Areobics 60 minutes … I’m trying, just can’t find the time or motivation
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I figured she might be growing some "natural herbs" to calm her nerves these days Betty I think I need some of them "natural herbs" …. :) IS Manager: Delete the "not.at." to reply 138/130/120 Y2K Areobics 60 minutes … I’m trying, just can’t find the time or motivation
i tried using a grow light for plants since it is supposed to emulate sunlight. it actually works pretty well, and keeps me warm too (added bonus). just a thought for you
There are full spectrum lights. Ott Lights, and Vitalight are 2 brand names. If you are dealing with SAD, these are the lights you should use. Marianne
Yes, it might actually give me one Betty But think of what it would do to your appetite, Betty, my love! Jacqueline 180/148/140
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Interesting suggestions Julie. Personally I can sleep in any temperature — warm, cold, in-between, but I can’t stand to get out of bed if it’s cold! (I personally believe that all mammals, including humans, should hibernate in the winter. *g*) We tend to keep the temperature in our house relatively constant. As for the compressed air cans with horns, that’s pretty much what my current alarm clock sounds like! (I had one in college in my dorm that you could actually hear all the way down the hall.) I usually need them that loud to wake me up, but I’ve gotten to the point (in my old age) where the noise really is starting to annoy me. I’m looking for a more "gentle" way to wake up that will still be effective. Music won’t do it for me unless it’s blasting (and that’s not very gentle either). The dawn simulator alarm clocks are terribly expensive … and apparently hard to come by this time of year! The site soma referred to is sold out til 12/1. I found some other sites that carry them — the company that manufactures them sells them for "only" $99.00, but they’re sold out indefinitely. Obviously this is the wrong time of year to be looking! I’m thinking that it might be worth a try though — they do have a 30-day money back guarantee if they don’t work. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i too get the same way come the cold winter months….the one thing hubby and i have come up with believe it or not works really well for some strange reason. since both of us like to sleep with the air temp in the home quite chilly–about 65F or so and have a prob sleeping when it’s warm–above 72F, what we decided to do (also since he has no problems at getting up at the crack of dawn–read:5:00 amish) was keep the temp low at night, and since he gets up so much earlier than i do, he just cranks up the heat to about 72ish when he gets out of bed. since it doesn’t take all that long for the place to warm up, and i can’t sleep when it’s too warm (i’m repeating myself, i know)…i am usually up by 6:30 at the latest….besides nothing beats coming out of the shower to a nice warm environment. after i’ve recharged my body temp in the shower, i turn the heat back down. it works really well, and since neither of us really want to actually shell out the $100 or so for the sunrise alarm clock…..well, you see where this is going. another thing i’ve done in the past, and still do, is use an alarm clock that plays tapes. it’s really nice because i put on the music i like and actually want to listen to instead of talk on the usual morning shows. granted my problem is that the morning show i used to listen to was cancelled and they are now in richmond virginia–anyone in richmond who listens to bender & jackie knows what i’m talking about. maybe those are some options you haven’t looked into? if all else fails, what about those cans of compressed air that have the horns on them? they’ll scare you awake…all you need is someone to use it for you in the am. Julie I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work. While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 — KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato.
– KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato.
I totally know what you mean with the air raid sirens. I’m a pretty light sleeper in the morning, but that doesn’t stop me from rolling over and falling back to sleep if it’s still dark. It’s just annoying to wake up to a buzzer or a beeper, or worse yet, the radio. It makes my heart pound and I start shaking before I even get out of bed. (I have a severe essential tremor in my hands.) So waking up to the light works much better for me. :-) I also wondered how they worked and went out on a limb when I bought it, which is why I thought I’d post about it. Might as well save someone else the anguish of shelling out that much dough for an alarm clock without knowing if it will work. I found the clock while doing searches on SAD, because I knew what I wanted, I just couldn’t remember what it was called. I don’t have SAD either, but like you, I do find that my energy level decreases a lot in the fall and winter because it’s so dark. Plus I work in a windowless room all day long! Bleh! Maybe next I’ll get some high-intensity light bulbs for a lamp on my desk! :-) Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 Y2K 60/2000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work.
i too get the same way come the cold winter months….the one thing hubby and i have come up with believe it or not works really well for some strange reason. since both of us like to sleep with the air temp in the home quite chilly–about 65F or so and have a prob sleeping when it’s warm–above 72F, what we decided to do (also since he has no problems at getting up at the crack of dawn–read:5:00 amish) was keep the temp low at night, and since he gets up so much earlier than i do, he just cranks up the heat to about 72ish when he gets out of bed. since it doesn’t take all that long for the place to warm up, and i can’t sleep when it’s too warm (i’m repeating myself, i know)…i am usually up by 6:30 at the latest….besides nothing beats coming out of the shower to a nice warm environment. after i’ve recharged my body temp in the shower, i turn the heat back down. it works really well, and since neither of us really want to actually shell out the $100 or so for the sunrise alarm clock…..well, you see where this is going. another thing i’ve done in the past, and still do, is use an alarm clock that plays tapes. it’s really nice because i put on the music i like and actually want to listen to instead of talk on the usual morning shows. granted my problem is that the morning show i used to listen to was cancelled and they are now in richmond virginia–anyone in richmond who listens to bender & jackie knows what i’m talking about. maybe those are some options you haven’t looked into? if all else fails, what about those cans of compressed air that have the horns on them? they’ll scare you awake…all you need is someone to use it for you in the am. Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work. While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135 — KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato.
I actually looked at getting one of those last year, as they are supposed to be good for people with SAD (seasonal affective disorder). I don’t think I actually have SAD, though I do find I tend to be much more fatigued, less enthusiastic, and less inclined to get out of bed as the days get shorter and the weather gets colder. I’ve always had a horrible time getting out of bed in the morning, and have had to buy alarm clocks with incredibly loud alarms (can you say "air raid siren"?). I’m at the point where those alarms are getting really annoying to wake up to though, and am looking for something a bit more gentle. Thanks for the info … I’d been wondering how well they actually work. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135
– KC "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." Plato.
thanks for the recommendation! might do a couple of my children some good! :) rosie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135
i’ve been looking into getting one of those. they sell it at brookstone i think or sharper image….it looks really cool. Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135
I’m one of those people who can’t get out of bed for work, never mind exercise… I have my alarm clock across the room so that when I finally wake up 10 minutes after it started going off, I can switch on the light on my way back. At least when I do that I don’t hit snooze ten thousand times. Only one thousand times and then I’m so annoyed by the light I get up. This clock sounds like a good idea. Christmas is coming — Mom? Jennifer in Vancouver Y2K – 100 down; 1900 to go 140/122.5/110 "I’ll make it to the moon if I have to crawl" — Scar Tissue; Red Hot Chili Peppers [seeking Bonnie Sharon Porter] * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
While this technically is not on-topic, it sort of is. I’ve mentioned on the list a few times that it’s really difficult for me to get up early to exercise when it’s dark outside. I found the solution, so I thought I’d post about it for other people who may have the same difficulty. It’s called the Soleil Sun Alarm Clock. It has a little built in lamp, and if you set it for 6:00 a.m., it will start fading from low to high light, just like sunrise. It has a little beeper thing that goes off at the time you set the clock for, but believe it or not, you usually wake up before the beeper goes off. It’s pretty darned cool!!! Here is where I bought mine from (no this isn’t a spam, I don’t sell the things, I just really like mine….) http://www.sadlight.com/ss-soleilsunmain.htm BTW, I know it’s expensive, but if you have a committment to exercising every day and early in the morning is the only time slot open, and if you can’t wake up while it’s dark, then it’s really worth the expenditure….. Live well, — soma 180/17?/135
Hi this is Ray from Mississippi I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions….
Edward from Florida says …. A real good place to start is Dr Ivan Goldberg’s Depression Central: http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html Edward Reid
Hi Ray I saw your post and wanted to let you know you are reaching me hey it does not matter how old you are to get your life in order hope that you get yourself together and do what is right for you no matter what anyone else thinks take care and good luck
PLEASE don’t give up on all mood stabilizers! If your diagnosis is correct, an anti-depressant alone could trigger a manic episode. I too was left dazed and confused by lithium and others. My work as an engineer requires alot of mental concentration and use of math and sciences…stuff I had taken for granted had become increasingly difficult, even the simplest tasks! I now take Lamictal (300mg) and Effexor(75mg) with Klonepin(.5mg) for sleep. Welbutrin made me near-anorexic (the very smell of food made me gag) and the closest to suicidal that I have ever been! I literally had to beg my pdoc to switch me back to Effexor…he kept increasing Welbutrin despite my insistance that it was not working for me…because, he said, it is a "very good" drug. Well, there are no good drugs/ bad drugs, just ones that work better or worse for an individual! Too often pdocs loose site of the patient sitting before them. Good luck with whatever you decide, but I’d consider Lamictal if you haven’t already tried it. Desiree’
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Amy, Thanks! Wonder if that means I’m addicted to the ole B/F . . . I’m going to look up that book. (o: — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain. <snip
Hey there! Today I decided I wasn’t going to be a victim anymore and feel bad anymore from meds so I could keep a job and have no excuses for excessive absences. I think I have been misdiagnosed as BPII. I think I suffer from chronic depression and anxiety just like everyone else in my immediate and extended family. Right now I am depressed, but anyone would be after losing their job AGAIN and this time out of the blue after buying a 2 unit house. That kind of depression there are no pills for you just get through it and move on. I have stopped taking my tegretol, but keeping my klonopin and periactin so I can sleep at night for now. Seeing my pdoc tomorrow, telling her about my decision and asking for her support to manage my anxiety and sleeping. I also want her to think about what anit-depressant I may need to use in the future. Wellbutrin sounds good especially since I have had such a lack of energy and brain power since I’ve been on mood stabilizers. I hate them because they slowed my brain down and I couldn’t think or do complex tasks or remember anything. I couldn’t do math or find words or spell. I used to be so with it. I hope now I can get better, think better, work better, love better and live better. I am going to enjoy life!!!!!! I am going to feel happy for the first time in 8 years. Wish me luck! Lisa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Hi Ray, welcome,there’s some good advice here. I’m 51 still don’t have my shit together. Take Care Caddy
Welcome Ray from mississippi I was off of work for 8 weeks late last year, I dont know what your suspended means? Is it a leave of absence? I need more info to answer this better. Welcome again you will find this group helpful maybe you just posted before on a bad day ..always, Treacha ..as the twig bends…so the tree grows…
You go girl. Lisa, mom of FF. "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption
Ray Wilson wrote : Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly
I see ya, loud and clear, welcome. I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.
YOu are in the right place. < as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???
Well, I’ll leave all that to the others who are knowledgeable. < God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont
Well, you know what my mama used to tell me? " Honey, it’s not a sin to get lice, it’s a sin to keep it." You are headed in the right direction. <…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray
That’s my story, and I’m stickin’ to it. Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption snipped all underneath. 
Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Hello Ray, welcome to the group. (so obviously I see your post ) A lot of people here know a great deal about your rights and about meds, but I think you’ll have to be a bit more specific. What kind of pills are you taking? Sounds like you were recently diagnosed. This really is the right place to come for information and for support. Sometimes it just takes a while-there’s SO many posts…… Hang in there and take care, Amy Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly
snip …. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray
Yes, you do have job rights. As a first step, check (or better yet, have a friend at work check if you can) what the standard company policy is for sick leave for any illness. For example, you may have 3 months to get back to your existing job, 6 months to get back to an "equivalent" job. It doesn’t matter what the illness is, so your friend doesn’t have to specify he/she is asking on your behalf or about your illness. If your company doesn’t have a written policy (but I bet they do), then you may have to do some further searching for an answer. But, start with the simple question first. Also, you said "suspended," but I am assuming extended sick leave. Is that what you mean? Hope this helps – I’ve been through this, too, as have a lot of people in this group. Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi …. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ?
Ray, 1) Be sure to tell your doctor you think they are setting you up at work. 2) Be sure to read the NAMI (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) homepage (www.NAMI.org ) Read the part about the Americans with Disabilities Act and "reasonable accomodations", in case this applies to your situation. Good luck and welcome to the newsgroup. — walleye – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Got your post. Welcome. This is a great group. Kathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Kathy, I hope it works out for you. Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain. Most of it is about addictions, but there were parts on how being with people helps (and why-chemically) and how even altruistic behavior can have an effect on ….o heck, I WAS doing good there. It is either dopamine or seratonin. But both are "feel good" ones, right? Take care, Amy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer.
Rabbitt, how do you know you’re in the placebo group? Were you told or is this based upon the fact that it’s not working for you? Just curious since it’s not good science to tell people which group they’re in. It biases the results. In response to your question, Prozac is the only one I’ve tried. I got lucky my first time out finding an AD that worked. I hope the research drug works for you! Nancy S+13 Depression Guide, The Mining Company http://depression.miningco.com/
Hey howdy, I was wondering if some kind people could tell me their experiences with Zoloft, Paxil, and Prozac. Is one better than the other? Why? Are there any side effects? How quickly do they work? I’m asking because I’m involved in a depression study and I’m taking a research antidepressant. It appears that I’m in the placebo control group and I’m not feeling any better. After the study has ended (in about 4 weeks), I’m going to be given the real stuff free of charge for about 3 or 4 months and those are my choices. Any help would be appreciated! Rabbitt
I tried Prozac first. Had a terrible reaction. Became very anxious, and somewhat manic, and couldn’t sleep. Then Zoloft. Liked it, but for reasons I won’t go into (insurance etc.) switched to Paxil. I hate Paxil. I feel like a friggin’ zombie. Tired ALL THE TIME! Short term memory lapse. Emptiness. I’m hoping to switch back to Zoloft now that my insurance is set. I really felt better with it. Accomplished stuff. Had energy, but not too much. Felt a little less hopeless. Of course, everyone is different, as I’m sure you know. I have anxiety as well as depression, complicated by Benign Essential Tremor. Best of luck. — trevor "ratgirl" pratt "Nobody told me there’d be days like these." John Lennon
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WebfootVA schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BTW, though you said you take it at night. Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack? If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both. I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past. For me, this was never a big deal. I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again. It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm. If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again. I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem! Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful. Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose? I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris —
Iris, I feel your doctor knows about your fear of meds (which I recognize completely) and therefore starts your medication on a very low dose indeed. You should have no problems taking this at any time of the day. And: the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Try it and do it asap because you’ve been torturing yourself for too long now. Just do it! You’ll survive. Just as I did, so many times now (and still fraking out over every new med but having learnt to take it. If I can do it, you certainly can! I wish you knew me better to discover how true this is… Philip Peters
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WebfootVA schreef: BTW, though you said you take it at night. Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack? If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both. I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past. For me, this was never a big deal. I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again. It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm. If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again. I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem! Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful. Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose? I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris — Iris, I feel your doctor knows about your fear of meds (which I recognize completely) and therefore starts your medication on a very low dose indeed. You should have no problems taking this at any time of the day. And: the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Try it and do it asap because you’ve been torturing yourself for too long now. Just do it! You’ll survive. Just as I did, so many times now (and still fraking out over every new med but having learnt to take it. If I can do it, you certainly can! I wish you knew me better to discover how true this is… Philip Peters
Philip: What a nice reply! I’m going to print it out and tape it to the mirror, ’cause I’ve decided I’m going to start tonight! Iris (hoping to be successful…) —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BTW, though you said you take it at night. Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack? If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both. I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past. For me, this was never a big deal. I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again. It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene
Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm. If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again. I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem! Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful. Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose? I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris —
BTW, though you said you take it at night. Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack? If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris,
I do both. I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past. For me, this was never a big deal. I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again. It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others? PS make sure you eat with it. I noticed a BIG difference in severity of side effects depending on whether I had a full stomache or not.
Good advice Lene. I’m still working on starting my Zoloft (sigh…) and the reason I was leaning toward taking it at breakfast was to lessen the side effect possibility. I’ve had this reaction with several other drugs. If I take them with food (if it’s an option), I always tolerate them better. I’m not a scientist, but I think food slows the absorbtion rate, so your body can better adjust. BTW, though you said you take it at night. Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack? If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Iris —
Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take?
<snipped for space I’m not a doctor but I do believe that, while there is a possibility that you are experiencing a reaction to Zoloft, it’s an infinitessimal one. Most likely you have hyped yourself up over it with anticipation. ISTM a little too early for any reaction at all, good or bad… Sad to say, we anxiety types do this all too easily — Gary Cooper
Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others?
Side effects with zoloft at first are extremely common. I’ve been on it for 10 weeks, My side effects lasted about four weeks. However, my husband who is also on zoloft for chronic pain management had few side effects and none of the ones that I did. I found that I had to work a bit with the time I took it, to manage the side effects better at first. Some people are just more sensitive to meds. Myself included. I usually have side effects to everything. Try and keep in mind that that the side effects are a temporary situation and well worth getting through in order to give it a chance and see if this is the answer for you. PS make sure you eat with it. I noticed a BIG difference in severity of side effects depending on whether I had a full stomache or not. take care Lene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others? Is it kind of a Riddlin effect. Kids who take it and don’t need it tend to react to it differently and get hyped up. and whereas kids who need the medication the most feel the effect immediately. mmm. in that case is it true that if you’re feeling overanxious when initially using Zoloft that you’re closer to healthy than you are sick? just a hopeful thought
I was put on Buspar (worked up to 30mg/day) in March of this year. I never saw any significant change in my anxiety or PAs since so in Sept. I decided to ween myself off (my doctor said okay) of it. Has Buspar helped anyone in any way? The only thing I found that it helped was my migraine headaches. They seemed to decline amazingly while on it, but I really can’t be sure that it wasn’t related to something else. Thanks!
I recently started taking Buspar after a very bad experience with Prozac. I’ve tried other meds like Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, and even St. John’s Wort. Nothing worked to get rid of my headaches or took me out of a withdrawn state (if anyone reads this, have you ever felt like you were in a fog, couldn’t concentrate, and just lost the "zest", if so, tell me about it.) So far my 10mgs/day of Buspar seems to be helping but it really has only been less than a week…any advice?
The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! -Slipper
Thanks, Slipper. I needed that …except it hurts to laugh! You reminded me of a professor I had in grad school who had Parkinson’s. On those wonderful occassions when we would teach together, he would enter the room first with me trailing (and flailing). We would finally get to the front of the lecture hall and he’d introduce us. "Hi. They call me ‘Old Shaky’ and this is my partner, ‘Spaz’." Shalom, Chana Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy."
This is so cool. Here I am, aspiring to become a writer; I answer a newsgroup post and now I’m gonna be in print all over!!! And more than anything, I’ll have the ultimate "last word" on a multitude of physicians via my pals, the dystoniacs. The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! -Slipper
The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! -Slipper Thanks, Slipper. I needed that …except it hurts to laugh! You reminded me of a professor I had in grad school who had Parkinson=
’s. On those wonderful occassions when we would teach together, he would enter the room first with me trailing (and flailing). We wo= uld finally get to the front of the lecture hall and he’d introduce us. "Hi. They call me ‘Old Shaky’ and this is my partner, ‘Spaz= ‘." Shalom, Chana Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy."
Oh me…It is the Chana & Slipper show!! How fun! And Chana, your post also appeared as one long line on my server…it is only when I do a ‘post reply’ that your post and Slipper’s take on ‘normal’ form!! Wonder if it is moi or yoi…<<<VBG MB
Hi gang. Yes, I feel like I have found a "special" place. I moved from VA to TX 2 years ago leaving behind family and friends that had been thru it all with me. That was quite a loss and have been depressed since. (though my husband and daughter are wonderful ) Thanks for all your responses. I have laughed and cried. I am sure you understand what a.s.d. means to me already. I had my botox shots last Wednesday (300 units) and dr. started me on Klonopin (1 mg). Sure hoping this helps my spasms which for some reason have gotten worse lately. Thanks again. Talk to yall soon. Bonnie
<SNIP… Ahhh, but Roger has already warned Slipper of the infamous Mary Beth–NO FAIR, Roger!!! Now I cannot pounce and be taken seriously <<VBG C’mon now MB! That’s "I cannot pounce OR be taken seriously!"
OOPS!! Grammar check failed me…what to do, what to do?? Now I tell you, has anyone in any of the countries to which our group us ever taken an MB pounce seriously. (Slipper, it’s those innocent approaches you will have to watch.
John you know me too well! Now Slipper will just be a lil devil and the Den Mom will have to grin and bear it. What trouble you do cause, Sir John!! Giving MB the Slip<per I remain, Your humble servant John :-)
No, no…I raised your rank above =8-} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
<SNIP… Ahhh, but Roger has already warned Slipper of the infamous Mary Beth–NO FAIR, Roger!!! Now I cannot pounce and be taken seriously <<VBG
C’mon now MB! That’s "I cannot pounce OR be taken seriously!" Now I tell you, has anyone in any of the countries to which our group us ever taken an MB pounce seriously. (Slipper, it’s those innocent approaches you will have to watch. Giving MB the Slip<per I remain, Your humble servant John :-)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Believe us when we say we have "superior intelligence". You know how many doctors it takes to diagnosis dystonia? Ten: One to explain that doctors are not magicians; One to say that you have fribromyalgia; One to say you have slight scoliosis; One to say you have a headache and some endurance problems; One to say you have TMJ One to say you have a Benign Essential Tremor and rigidity; One to say you are suffering from a psychogenic disorder aka depression; Two to hold the neurological textbooks at the public library open for you while you diagnosis yourself using American Online’s Medline; And one to follow your instructions when you decide which medications you need to take. SLIPPER I thought I had read this somewhere before,then I seen the name in the address. Glad you found us. Everyone meet slipper. We have become friends through e-mail recently. Slipper meet the gang, just watch out for that Mary Beth. Good to see you have joined our online family. Roger
I LOVE THIS GROUP!!!!!!! With Roger’s ‘Stamp of Approval’, this new one ‘Slipper’ has an easy road <<giggle Of course the fact that what was posted is completely Wonderful has something to do with it! Like Chana, I have also printed it out to disperse among friends & doctors. Ahhh, but Roger has already warned Slipper of the infamous Mary Beth–NO FAIR, Roger!!! Now I cannot pounce and be taken seriously <<VBG Anyhow, welcome Slipper, be ye male, female, or…well, OK I’ll say it… Slipper kinda sounds like a pet’s name, as in ‘here Slipper, Slipper’ Sorry Roger, you always bring out my ‘best’ side!! MB
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Believe us when we say we have "superior intelligence". You know how many doctors it takes to diagnosis dystonia? Ten: One to explain that doctors are not magicians; One to say that you have fribromyalgia; One to say you have slight scoliosis; One to say you have a headache and some endurance problems; One to say you have TMJ One to say you have a Benign Essential Tremor and rigidity; One to say you are suffering from a psychogenic disorder aka depression; Two to hold the neurological textbooks at the public library open for you while you diagnosis yourself using American Online’s Medline; And one to follow your instructions when you decide which medications you need to take.
I LOVE THIS!!! There is someone else out there who is brilliant and funny just like the rest of us! We ARE a smart bunch, no? Chana P.S. I’m sending a copy of this to my neurologist and family friend and physician. I know that, at least, the latter will ROFL… Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy."
Believe us when we say we have "superior intelligence". You know how many doctors it takes to diagnosis dystonia? Ten: One to explain that doctors are not magicians; One to say that you have fribromyalgia; One to say you have slight scoliosis; One to say you have a headache and some endurance problems; One to say you have TMJ One to say you have a Benign Essential Tremor and rigidity; One to say you are suffering from a psychogenic disorder aka depression; Two to hold the neurological textbooks at the public library open for you while you diagnosis yourself using American Online’s Medline; And one to follow your instructions when you decide which medications you need to take.
SLIPPER I thought I had read this somewhere before,then I seen the name in the address. Glad you found us. Everyone meet slipper. We have become friends through e-mail recently. Slipper meet the gang, just watch out for that Mary Beth. Good to see you have joined our online family. Roger
Believe us when we say we have "superior intelligence". You know how many doctors it takes to diagnosis dystonia? Ten: One to explain that doctors are not magicians; One to say that you have fribromyalgia; One to say you have slight scoliosis; One to say you have a headache and some endurance problems; One to say you have TMJ One to say you have a Benign Essential Tremor and rigidity; One to say you are suffering from a psychogenic disorder aka depression; Two to hold the neurological textbooks at the public library open for you while you diagnosis yourself using American Online’s Medline; And one to follow your instructions when you decide which medications you need to take.
Hi! Bonnie I just read your post and I’m also excited about finding all this on my new computer. I’m had Dystonia since I was a teenager and I am a NSTA support leader in Atlanta, Georgia. I would love to correspond with you and maybe we could compare notes, this is a GREAT newsgroup and you will love it. Best wishes, Kathie
Welcome Bonnie! If you’ve got a sense of humor, you’ve found the right place! As serious as we can be, most of us can find SOMEthing to laugh at! Have you thought of contacting your regional coordinator from the Dystonia Medical Research Foundation in starting a support group?=
I’ve just come back from one of their conventions and we sure do have a lot to offer? MB will pipe in with more information and h= I’m a bit older than yourself but just beginning my ‘relationship’ with the diagnosis of dystonia … even though I’ve had dystonia=
since I can remember. Personally, I think we were given ’superior intelligence’ to make up for our differences. <<grin Looking forward to hearing from you again. Chana Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy."
Golly, I feel like I am being paged again!! Yes, Chana, here I am at your service <<giggle Actually, Bonnie! Chana has a wonderful point which I completely overlooked [I am really scattered presently]. There is a support group called the ‘Dallas-Fort Worth’ Support Group in Cedar Hill TX. Leader is Patricia Foreman and her home # is 214 299-5715. You might want to touch base with her OR the Regional Cordinator for that regon is Bill Rapp in New Orleans and Bill’s # is 504 254-2455. Good Luck, Bonnie! MB
Welcome Bonnie! If you’ve got a sense of humor, you’ve found the right place! As serious as we can be, most of us can find SOMEthing to laugh at! I’m a bit older than yourself but just beginning my ‘relationship’ with the diagnosis of dystonia … even though I’ve had dystonia since I can remember. Personally, I think we were given ’superior intelligence’ to make up for our differences. <<grin Looking forward to hearing from you again. Chana Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy."
My name is Bonnie and have had dystonia since I was 18 (now 41). I receive Botox injections (ST) also have problems with left foot and writers cramp with scolosis and degenerative disc disease. Whew!!! But keeping a positive attitude and a sense of humor is the only way to deal with this. So glad I got a computer in Dec.; never expected to find anything when I typed in dystonia for web search ;boy, was I suprised. This is great. Well, I could write a book of my experiences over the years. Just wanted to say hello and this has been a godsend. I have never encounted anyone else with dystonia; have joined NSTA and talked with my doctor yesterday about starting a support group in my area (Ft. Worth, TX). She has other patients she is contacting for me anf if they are interested will give them my #. I sure hope this works out. If I can help any one, please do not hesitiate to post or e-mail me. Thanks and remember you are not alone. Bonnie
Welcome Bonnie!! We are so glad you have found us and are willing to post! Another Texan…hmmmm, we are blessed with Canadians and Texans, aren’t we? Good luck with the support group…if ya happen to speak with either Jan Richter or Patricia Murray, say hi from Mary Beth (MB). And please keep posting, your experience is invaluable! TTYS, MB
My name is Bonnie and have had dystonia since I was 18 (now 41). I receive Botox injections (ST) also have problems with left foot and writers cramp with scolosis and degenerative disc disease. Whew!!! But keeping a positive attitude and a sense of humor is the only way to deal with this. So glad I got a computer in Dec.; never expected to find anything when I typed in dystonia for web search ;boy, was I suprised. This is great. Well, I could write a book of my experiences over the years. Just wanted to say hello and this has been a godsend. I have never encounted anyone else with dystonia; have joined NSTA and talked with my doctor yesterday about starting a support group in my area (Ft. Worth, TX). She has other patients she is contacting for me anf if they are interested will give them my #. I sure hope this works out. If I can help any one, please do not hesitiate to post or e-mail me. Thanks and remember you are not alone. Bonnie
This is so cool. Here I am, aspiring to become a writer; I answer a newsgroup post and now I’m gonna be in print all over!!! And more than anything, I’ll have the ultimate "last word" on a multitude of physicians via my pals, the dystoniacs. The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! -Slipper
Oh Great Slipper, I would like to respectfully welcome you to the alt.support.dystonia news group on the part of those of us living in the maritime provinces:-) I am sure our charming Mary Beth Chan will be officially welcoming you shortly. Gene
<<snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Oh me…It is the Chana & Slipper show!! How fun! And Chana, your post also appeared as one long line on my server…it is only when I do a ‘post reply’ that your post and Slipper’s take on ‘normal’ form!! Wonder if it is moi or yoi…<<<VBG MB MB I have the same problem. I always find this very baffling as most of the post I can read on my screen but there are one or two that seem to go past the right hand margin. Mally made a suggestion of what I should do but I have never been able to get it to work. Glad to have the company. Faye
If you are using Free Agent, try this: Click Options, then Posting, then pick the "General." tab. There is a choice for Line length. Choose 70, then click OK. Other newsreaders should have similar options. Jeff Jeff H.
I am curious about your post itself…it came onto my server as one long line and then a line that appeared to be typed and typed over-top-of many times. This happened to Chana’s posts too, still is on my server at least. AOL is having more trouble? Or what? Ideas anybody? In any case, no matter how your posts ‘look’, I really enjoy having you with us! MB
MB, I just finished describing this problem to Chana… I guess if others are having it too, I should redo it publically. The problem lies within the AOL newsreader. It appears to not know how to insert a carraige return to wrap a line, and so those posting from AOL are indeed writing one *very* long line instead of a paragraph. Those who can read the messages fine are using newsreaders that are able to fake-out the problem and wrap the lines to fit that user’s screen. This is why some people are able to read these posting no problem but others are having troubles and seeing only one line. We need those using AOL to manually insert carriage returns when they come to the end of a line on their screen (and continue their sentence on the next line). They will need to do this for every line of text for their whole posting as the problem will occur any time they don’t hit that ol’ "return" key. Other than that, people having troubles can see about any "line wrap" options in their own software that they can turn on when they come across a one-line AOL posting, or other means of justifying the message so it is readable in a paragraph format (such as saving the message and opening it up in another program such as a word processor.) Cathy. — (—-) (—-) " " http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~collisoc " "
I have the same problem. I always find this very baffling as most of the post I can read on my screen but there are one or two that seem to go past the right hand margin. Mally made a suggestion of what I should do but I have never been able to get it to work. Glad to have the company. Faye
Someone mention my name? Hi Faye! <waving away at you Depending on what newsreader you’re using, search through your menu lists for "word wrap". In Free Agent, if you click on that, it will stay "clicked" – a check mark will appear beside it. Then any post that goes off the side of your screen will get "wrapped" automatically. IOW, it will fit into the margins you have set in your default. You may find that you will then half lines followed by "=" or some such weird little squiggles or symbols. Just ignore those, they are the "line breaks" showing up as symbols. Hokey? For those whose posts are too wide, check in your "Page Setup" for margins – usually found under "File". Do this while you are in "Post" or "Reply" mode/screen. Mally :)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! -Slipper Thanks, Slipper. I needed that …except it hurts to laugh! You reminded me of a professor I had in grad school who had Parkinson= ’s. On those wonderful occassions when we would teach together, he would enter the room first with me trailing (and flailing). We wo= uld finally get to the front of the lecture hall and he’d introduce us. "Hi. They call me ‘Old Shaky’ and this is my partner, ‘Spaz= ‘." Shalom, Chana Mitzvah g’dolah l’hiyot b’simcha. "It is a great mitzvah to exist in a state of joy." Oh me…It is the Chana & Slipper show!! How fun! And Chana, your post also appeared as one long line on my server…it is only when I do a ‘post reply’ that your post and Slipper’s take on ‘normal’ form!! Wonder if it is moi or yoi…<<<VBG MB
MB I have the same problem. I always find this very baffling as most of the post I can read on my screen but there are one or two that seem to go past the right hand margin. Mally made a suggestion of what I should do but I have never been able to get it to work. Glad to have the company. Faye
This is so cool. Here I am, aspiring to become a writer; I answer a newsgroup post and now I’m gonna be in print all over!!! And more than anything, I’ll have the ultimate "last word" on a multitude of physicians via my pals, the dystoniacs. The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exhibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some res -Slipper
Spaz-twista-shake,hey that fits me oh she who is great. I thought that was a nick name you had,and here I thought I knew you. Well I’ll talh to you later. Roger
Hi Bonnie- Greetings to you from Chicago! Just a quick note to welcome you to the "family." I wanted to ensure that you are also familiar with our organization, The Dystonia Medical Research Foundation. We are the largest international organizations for dystonia-affected persons and their families (over 25,000 members!) Our Foundation has a 3-fold mission: to support dystonia-specific medical research (we have supported over $14 million to-date), to increase public and physician awareness of dystonia, and to sponsor educational and support programs for affected individuals and their families. If you are not familiar with our gladly send them to you. We also have a support group manual that may help you to get things started in Ft. Worth. Take care, Jennifer Molski Dystonia Medical Research Foundation
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is so cool. Here I am, aspiring to become a writer; I answer a newsgroup post and now I’m gonna be in print all over!!! And = more than anything, I’ll have the ultimate "last word" on a multitude of physicians via my pals, the dystoniacs. The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exh= ibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was= 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on = contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeee= ese!!!!!! -Slipper Hi Slipper, So I am understanding that you are part Jew, part American Indian? WOW!! What a wonderful combination I am curious about your post itself…it came onto my server as one long line and then a line that appeared to be typed and typed over-top-of many times. This happened to Chana’s posts too, still is on my server at least. AOL is having more trouble? Or what? Ideas anybody? In any case, no matter how your posts ‘look’, I really enjoy having you with us! MB
Shoot!! First it would not post and then it posted twice!! Sorry! MB
This is so cool. Here I am, aspiring to become a writer; I answer a newsgroup post and now I’m gonna be in print all over!!! And =
more than anything, I’ll have the ultimate "last word" on a multitude of physicians via my pals, the dystoniacs. The name "Slipper" ain’t a pet name. It is a version of an old family name handed down over the years to the "chosen" ones who exh=
ibited certain qualities. "Slipper" is a Hebrew term for, "She who is great". My great, great grandmother, also a chosen one, was= 1/2 American Indian and was called "She who is great", but in indian it was pronounced, "Spaz-twista-shake". That does not fit on = contemporary birth certificates. Therefore it was shown in Hebrew, pronouced "Slipper". Yaw show some respect, okay! Jeeeeeeeeeeeee= ese!!!!!! -Slipper
Hi Slipper, So I am understanding that you are part Jew, part American Indian? WOW!! What a wonderful combination I am curious about your post itself…it came onto my server as one long line and then a line that appeared to be typed and typed over-top-of many times. This happened to Chana’s posts too, still is on my server at least. AOL is having more trouble? Or what? Ideas anybody? In any case, no matter how your posts ‘look’, I really enjoy having you with us! MB