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My wife and I moved to Grande Prairie, Alberta, a year ago.  We came here from Prince Edward Island.  She is an American from Illinois. Since we got here, she has had increasing problems with her asthma, to the point that she is now being monitored and on a whole raft of medications, using sidestream, the whole nine yards.  My question is this; Is there any place in Alberta that is safe to live, or does the whole province pose a health risk to asthma sufferers.  If we can find relief further south, then we are willing to look at that option. Mike Nantau

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Moving anywhere can usually be counted on to introduce the asthma sufferer to new triggers.  As usual it takes a while to get accustomed to them.  Hang in there. — Murray Stone phone:  (403) 486-5146  fax:  (403) 483-7791 snailmail:  616-21, 10405 Jasper Avenue Edmonton, AB, T5J 3S2 Canada

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South is not good.  Here in Calgary asthma is pretty common.  Mine has gotten worse since moving here…but it is a beautiful city and I am not leaving.  I never had any problems in Grande Prairie with my asthma. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I moved to Grande Prairie, Alberta, a year ago.  We came here from Prince Edward Island.  She is an American from Illinois. Since we got here, she has had increasing problems with her asthma, to the point that she is now being monitored and on a whole raft of medications, using sidestream, the whole nine yards.  My question is this; Is there any place in Alberta that is safe to live, or does the whole province pose a health risk to asthma sufferers.  If we can find relief further south, then we are willing to look at that option. Mike Nantau

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South is not good.  Here in Calgary asthma is pretty common.  Mine has gotten worse since moving here…but it is a beautiful city and I am not leaving.  I never had any problems in Grande Prairie with my asthma.

Hi, My asthma also seems to be a lot worse since I moved here to Calgary from Ottawa 10 months ago. However, I also love it and am not planning on leaving. I thought that the dryness (Ottawa is VERY humid) would improve my allergies and asthma, but it seems to have made me more sensitive. I’ve been to emerg 5 times since I’ve been here, but 4 of those times were prolonged exposure to a cat and the last one was the result of what I *think* is bronchitis (I’ve been coughing for 2 weeks!) So, I guess these weren’t speciically due to living in Alberta. I have noticed that the respiratory therapists seem a bit behind here in terms of medication. Each time I have been to emerg (at 3 different hospitals) and they ask me what I’m taking I show them my Maxair which I take along with Beclefort. In each case they had never heard of Maxair before. I thought that was kind of strange because it came out in Ontario about 6 months ago. I find Maxair to be wonderful, literally instant relief. Any suggestions on how to cure this bronchitis? My gp put me on antibiotics 2 days ago but it doesn’t seem to be going away. I’m having trouble sleeping because whenever I lie down I have a huge coughing fit. The Maxair doesn’t stop the cough or the congested feeling. I took an expectorand cough syrup – but stopped when I started on the antibiotics. Should I go back on the cough syrup too? Everyone in my office is buying me halls and bringing me water – very embarassing. Thanks for any advice. Alyssa PS – I tried Flovent and it made me cough even harder.

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I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime.  I also use the  ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often).  Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks

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I do not know all your medicines but I am new to singulair and finding it a little agitating, restless making. Fortunately for me another non asthma medicine I take makes me drowsy. I have a feeling that if it doesn’t go away you might look at singulair as the culprit. You know the principle of single subject testing don’t you?  To be sure, you must go off the suspected medicine, have the side effects go away, then go back on again, and have them come back, and go off again (if you can’t stand them) and have them go away. I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime.  I also use the  ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often).  Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks

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I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime.  I also use the  ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often).  Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks

Bronchodilators are the asthma meds most likely to cause this symptom. It could be the Serevent. It can take some time to get used to it; I had nightmares when I 1st started taking it, which subsided after a couple of months. Some have to reduce the dose of Serevent. Albuterol could also do this, especially in nebulizer form. Each nebulizer treatment (2.5 gm albuterol) is equivalent to 10 puffs of albuterol by Metered Dose Inhaler. More info at www.rxlist.com type in name of drug. Ellis

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People are so different in how they react. I have never heard that about serevent and never would have suspected it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime.  I also use the  ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often).  Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks Bronchodilators are the asthma meds most likely to cause this symptom. It could be the Serevent. It can take some time to get used to it; I had nightmares when I 1st started taking it, which subsided after a couple of months. Some have to reduce the dose of Serevent. Albuterol could also do this, especially in nebulizer form. Each nebulizer treatment (2.5 gm albuterol) is equivalent to 10 puffs of albuterol by Metered Dose Inhaler. More info at www.rxlist.com type in name of drug. Ellis

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I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime.  I also use the  ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often).  Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks Yes, definitely…Serevent and/or ventolin. It’s after 1 am, and I am still up having taken the same meds! I’m experimenting with changing the time I take the Serevent…if I solve this problem, I’ll let you know. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma

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Thanks.  I had pushed the time later as to taking the singulair, hoping that the effects of it would last longer into the following day.  But I’m assuming that taking singulair, serevent, azmacort and ventolin (if needed) at midnight is just a little to much before bedtime

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, definitely…Serevent and/or ventolin. It’s after 1 am, and I am still up having taken the same meds! I’m experimenting with changing the time I take the Serevent…if I solve this problem, I’ll let you know. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma

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I too am on Serevent and have had trouble sleeping and also HORRIBLE nightmares for the last month. I’ve been on Serevent for a month!! And I have never had nightmares before in my life. I thought I was going crazy! But thanks to Ellis’s post I now know whats causing them!

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Thanks.  I had pushed the time later as to taking the singulair, hoping that the effects of it would last longer into the following day.  But I’m assuming that taking singulair, serevent, azmacort and ventolin (if needed) at midnight is just a little to much before bedtime Recently I’ve pushed the time I take the Serevent later until just before I hit the sack. Seems I read that it peaks at 4 hours, so I’m trying to see what happens if I get to sleep before it really takes effect.  Well….worth a try I thought. Will let you know.  BTWm prednisome makes sleeping  a problem too. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma

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does anyone here know what the sideaffects of zoloft are? i have been on the 100mg for a week now, well tomorrow it will be. and tonight i felt shaky inside, nervous, but yet i also felt like i was in a coma. i just didn’t want to move. thank you everyone for the great responses.

I also felt shaky..very shaky, and only at a 12.5 dose. It was like drinking 3 pots of coffee. I started at 12.5 mg, then titrated by 12.5 mg per week despite my depression being severe. All that went away. I now take 200mg with no problems and no nervousness. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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does anyone here know what the sideaffects of zoloft are? i have been on the 100mg for a week now, well tomorrow it will be. and tonight i felt shaky inside, nervous, but yet i also felt like i was in a coma. i just didn’t want to move. thank you everyone for the great responses. yes i know i can’t spell lol. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Many of the meds we take do have side effects which usually will go away in time.  Some could include anxiety, sleepiness… Could the coma-like state you refer to be depersonalization which is defined as a state in which one no longer perceives the reality of one’s self or one’s environment? smiles, Elise

does anyone here know what the sideaffects of zoloft are? i have been on the 100mg for a week now, well tomorrow it will be. and tonight i felt shaky inside, nervous, but yet i also felt like i was in a coma. i just didn’t want to move. thank you everyone for the great responses. yes i know i can’t spell lol. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::does anyone here know what the sideaffects of zoloft are? i have been ::on the 100mg for a week now, well tomorrow it will be. and tonight i ::felt shaky inside, nervous, but yet i also felt like i was in a coma. i ::just didn’t want to move. thank you everyone for the great responses. ::yes i know i can’t spell lol. Dear Gina, I really hate listing side effects of a med for fear it will cause someone to anticipate them. I can tell you this, the symptoms you are experiencing are common side effects of Zoloft. They are not dangerous, just very uncomfortable. You do have some options, ask your doctor for a benzo (Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan) to be used while you acclimate to Zoloft. It can really help to tame side-effects. If you find you are just too uncomfortable and your doctor won’t prescribe a benzo, ask him to ‘temporarily’ lower your dose a bit, then wean slowly back to 100 mgs. What was your dose before your doctor increased you to 100mgs? How long had you been on that dose? Feel better soon! Jackie ~*~The glass isn’t half full or half empty… the glass is EMPTY…BONE DRY…NOTHING! ~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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jackie, I am just going to counseling. i started the 50mg about a month ago and went straight to 100mg after that. i started getting tickling feelings and numbness in some places, so now i am back to 50mg. my counselar thinks now maybe bipolar, but i don’t think so. gina – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Gina, I really hate listing side effects of a med for fear it will cause someone to anticipate them. I can tell you this, the symptoms you are experiencing are common side effects of Zoloft. They are not dangerous, just very uncomfortable. You do have some options, ask your doctor for a benzo (Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan) to be used while you acclimate to Zoloft. It can really help to tame side-effects. If you find you are just too uncomfortable and your doctor won’t prescribe a benzo, ask him to ‘temporarily’ lower your dose a bit, then wean slowly back to 100 mgs. What was your dose before your doctor increased you to 100mgs? How long had you been on that dose? Feel better soon! Jackie ~*~The glass isn’t half full or half empty… the glass is EMPTY…BONE DRY…NOTHING! ~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::I am just going to counseling. i started the 50mg about a month ago and ::went straight to 100mg after that. i started getting tickling feelings ::and numbness in some places, so now i am back to 50mg. my counselar ::thinks now maybe bipolar, but i don’t think so. Dear Gina, A 50mg increase at one time is too much for someone with an anxiety disorder. When it comes to Zoloft, increasing in 12.5 or 25mg increments is the best way to go. If you decide to go for 100mgs, do it slowly. It won’t be so painful. About the Bipolar diagnosis, get a 2nd from a psychiatrist. When we are very anxious and panicky it can mimic other mental disorders, like Bipolar. Didn’ t this therapist tell you last week that she thought you had PTSD? Who is prescribing your Zoloft? Take care, Gina Jackie ~*~Acting like a witch…..Eating 14 chocolate bars…..this isn`t a holiday for — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Modern SSRI antidepressants are good at preventing both depression and ejaculation…..     It’s a well known but little discussed side effect of drugs like prozac, zoloft, effexor, citalopram….. Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I’ve had since I was a teenager.  Everytime I ejaculate, I get a feeling of depression x approximately 2-3 days.    It has nothing to do with anything psychologically but I feel is biochemical.   Does anyone know of a solution or can direct me to a solution for this problem? Thanks R

– Some of my colleagues think that the chemicals we are experimenting with could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?

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Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I’ve had since I was a teenager.  Everytime I ejaculate, I get a feeling of depression x approximately 2-3 days.    It has nothing to do with anything psychologically but I feel is biochemical.   Does anyone know of a solution or can direct me to a solution for this problem? Thanks R

It is possible to abuse sex. It can be very effective as a means of reducing anxiety. It is an addiction much as drinking exsessive amounts of alcohol. Doubt if it’s biochemical any more then an alcoholic that feels depressed when drinking. Contact a therapist that knows anything about sexual issues. And a lot of them don’t know so don’t settle for the first you find. They might also tell you if there is a possibillity that it is a biochemical reaction. J.

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Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I’ve had since I was a teenager.  Everytime I ejaculate, I get a feeling of depression x approximately 2-3 days.    It has nothing to do with anything psychologically but I feel is biochemical.   Does anyone know of a solution or can direct me to a solution for this problem? Thanks R

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I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I’ve had since I was a teenager.  Everytime I ejaculate, I get a feeling of depression x approximately 2-3 days.    It has nothing to do with anything psychologically but I feel is biochemical.   Does anyone know of a solution or can direct me to a solution for this problem?

Stop ejaculating and get some good therapy?? Sincerely Stewart — The Metaphor Man  *and*  The Great Defender of the Self (remove the SPAMBLOCK) Please send me an e-mail copy of your posted response.

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hi im new to this group  i hope you all will forgive me for lurking for a few weeks        im very new to all of this  my children got me this webtv & ms just came in my life uninvited a yr ago it has taken awhile to learn how to post & have the nerve to join my concern is in the prozac w/ anyone one of the ms meds  i also havent had the nerve to try the meds  after reading about avonex lately  i feel i am not to smart w/ that thought im sure ive said plenty for the first time      hope to hear from any & all                        thanks karen aka vagrammy

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:30:08 -0400 (EDT), vagra…@webtv.net (Karen Nelson) wrote:

it has taken awhile to learn how to post & have the nerve to join my concern is in the prozac w/ anyone one of the ms meds  i also havent had the nerve to try the meds  after reading about avonex lately

Welcome aboard, Karen!  Sorry it took MS to get you posting, though. I do not take any of the ABC drugs (I do not qualify), so I cannot say anything useful about taking one of them with prozac.  Your doctor is the best one to give advice about that. I will point out that recent research indicates that the sooner you start taking one of the ABC drugs, the better.  Try to see a neurologist who specialises in MS and let him be your guide about which one to take. — Perth, Ontario, Canada http://www.superaje.com/~jcarter

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Welcome Karen! I am sorry for you to have to join this group under the circumstances.  I take Rebif,(an interferon) as well as Effexor, an antidepressant and clonzepam for mild clonus and to help me sleep.  I get my bloodwork done every three months, and all is fine.  I guess all these medications I’m on aren’t killing me.  Actually, I feel pretty good right now.  I used to be one person who hated taking any kind of prescription drug.  Needless to say, I feel that they definitely have improved the quality of my life.  So! Thats a positive! Sincerely Diana Karen Nelson <vagra…@webtv.net

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hi im new to this group  i hope you all will forgive me for lurking for a few weeks        im very new to all of this  my children got me this webtv & ms just came in my life uninvited a yr ago it has taken awhile to learn how to post & have the nerve to join my concern is in the prozac w/ anyone one of the ms meds  i also havent had the nerve to try the meds  after reading about avonex lately  i feel i am not to smart w/ that thought im sure ive said plenty for the first time      hope to hear from any & all                        thanks karen aka vagrammy

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Diana- I take 25 mg of Elavil each evening before bed. Cheryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Linda Anchell wrote:

Hello Diana,         I am on Parnate (Tranylcypromine). It is an old MAOI drug. I changed for a year to Aurorix (Moclobemide) which *seemed* to be good, but then I really *did* get depresses a couple of months ago when things became too much, and I realised that I didn’t have the energy that Parnate had given me. Now I am back to Parnate and very happy with it. My fatigue now seems to be more to do with pushing the limits rather than accepting them!         I know of a friend who was prescribed an SSRI for pain too… Anti depressants do lots of things apart from fiddling with your mood…. I will be interested to see the responses that you get. (and depression or similar symptoms come in lots of different kinds, so there will be a variety of drugs to use….)                         Linda On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:19:27 GMT, "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home wrote: Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana http://www.ozemail.com.au/~lindafrd/

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Hi Diana: I take Tofranil 25 mg three times a day. At night time I take two 50mg of Desyrel another antidepresent to help me sleep since I declined sleeping pills. Yes, depression is here to stay, but I don’t let it control me, I control it! God Bless Millie

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Hi, all! I am taking 20mg Paxil (sometimes 40mg) and Avonex. I was a very depressed and eventually, suicidal teenager, until almost right before i was dxed with MS last Nov. (I will be 22 next March.) I am now on Paxil. When I first started taking it, I could feel this weird numbness come over me. It helps me ignore the little things that would normally eat at me if I weren’t taking it, so that’s good. Smoking pot can make me extremely depressed, and sometimes suicidal, by the way. Yet, it usually doesn’t stop me! I am doing the Avonex thing once a week, I do it between 6 and 8 pm, so usually I sleep through most of the effects, but if I don’t sleep, I get on a very long crying jag, re-inacting some of the most suicidal feelings I have ever felt, everything that Paxil helps me ignore/rationalize comes right back. Sometimes I wonder if that horrible stiffness and muscle ache from the Avonex will be how I will feel all the time, one day? Biogen sent me a bottle of Tylenol once. I went and bought a big bottle of tylenolPM last week. I stay away from anything herbal, but I love tea and now I’ve discovered Internatioal Coffees’ VIENNA CHOCOLATE mmmmm Sorry for ramling so much!! It’s almost 3AM…   : ) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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  Michael Baugh <mba…@my-deja.com

wrote: Anyone using St. John’s Wort?

Yes, I use St. John’s Wort. Two 300 mg capsules a day seems to ward off any depression. I’ve gone without – depression returns. This minimal dosage seems to work just fine and my Neuro approves. Noratoo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <ETaE5.2144$r6.1203…@den-news1.rmi.net

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>   "Suzanne Lennon" <lenn…@doitnow.com> wrote: > > The psychiatrist has tried several drugs, and is struggling to come > up with > > something that Iam not alergic to.  Wellbutrin was fantastic, but I > > developed a rash within twoweeks.  Effexor at 75 mg was fine, but at > 75 + > > 37.5 caused (I thought) mild seizure-type tingling throughout my > body.  Now, > > I am on 75 mg Effexor and 20 mg Desaprimine, which works pretty well,

but not as well as the other too.  Also, the "seizures" have started again, only onmy left side, and emanating from the spot in my thigh that has always tingled and "spasm’d".  I am beginning to think that it is MS

related

rather than drugrelated.  If the neuro confirms this, I will probably go back to Effexor, at a higher dosage. Suzanne Diana Calder <d.r.calder@home wrote in message news:PQQD5.420473$8u4.4933426@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot

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I’m on Serzone. I’m still depressed BUT it’s because of this care home/prison I’m living in. I’ve always been a moody person. But Serzone/Paxil don’t do as much good as the pot I used to smoke. Gawd, I miss that! ;-}  "T" Diana Calder wrote:

Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana

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Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana

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Hi Diana, I am on prozac (fluoxitine). I take 20 mg/day, unless I really feel ‘down’ – then I take 40 mg/day. It works for me. In article <PQQD5.420473$8u4.4933…@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com

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Calder" <d.r.calder@home

wrote: Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.

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Diana

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The psychiatrist has tried several drugs, and is struggling to come up with something that Iam not alergic to.  Wellbutrin was fantastic, but I developed a rash within twoweeks.  Effexor at 75 mg was fine, but at 75 + 37.5 caused (I thought) mild seizure-type tingling throughout my body.  Now, I am on 75 mg Effexor and 20 mg Desaprimine, which works pretty well, but not as well as the other too.  Also, the "seizures" have started again, only onmy left side, and emanating from the spot in my thigh that has always tingled and "spasm’d".  I am beginning to think that it is MS related rather than drugrelated.  If the neuro confirms this, I will probably go back to Effexor, at a higher dosage. Suzanne Diana Calder <d.r.calder@home

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Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana

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Anyone using St. John’s Wort? In article <ETaE5.2144$r6.1203…@den-news1.rmi.net

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The psychiatrist has tried several drugs, and is struggling to come

up with

something that Iam not alergic to.  Wellbutrin was fantastic, but I developed a rash within twoweeks.  Effexor at 75 mg was fine, but at

75 +

37.5 caused (I thought) mild seizure-type tingling throughout my

body.  Now,

I am on 75 mg Effexor and 20 mg Desaprimine, which works pretty well,

but

not as well as the other too.  Also, the "seizures" have started

again, only

onmy left side, and emanating from the spot in my thigh that has

always

tingled and "spasm’d".  I am beginning to think that it is MS related

rather

than drugrelated.  If the neuro confirms this, I will probably go

back to

Effexor, at a higher dosage. Suzanne Diana Calder <d.r.calder@home wrote in message news:PQQD5.420473$8u4.4933426@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which

ones? and

are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went

on it

when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel

depressed.  I

am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana

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Michael Baugh wrote:

Anyone using St. John’s Wort?

For a fair time, I was.  I gradually tapered off it, and on bad days I’d make a pot of "espresso" from SJW (I buy it bulk, at $2 an ounce (that’s 30 100mg capsules worth), and take half of an Effexor tablet with a whole pot of thrice-brewed SJW espresso (brew a pot, pour it back in and brew again, do this once more and the resulting brew, while bitter as all Hades, has darned near everything estracted from the SJW). This regimin would put me straight to sleep, and I’d sleep most of a day, but when I woke up, I was no longer suicidal.  After a while, I no longer needed this at all…  then, I tried taking Avonex, and for almost 2 months I was back in the sewer again.  Once I stopped the Avonex, things returned to normal. Love and Light, Jeannette

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Hi! Before I went on prescription antidepressants, I took St. Johns Wort for almost two years.  Gradually, I found that the effects of the St. Johns Wort did not work anymore.  I am starting to wonder if these interferons are the drugs that are causing all the depression in the first place? Diana Michael Baugh <mba…@my-deja.com

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news:8rs45o$jok$1@nnrp1.deja.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone using St. John’s Wort? > In article <ETaE5.2144$r6.1203…@den-news1.rmi.net>, >   "Suzanne Lennon" <lenn…@doitnow.com> wrote: > > The psychiatrist has tried several drugs, and is struggling to come > up with > > something that Iam not alergic to.  Wellbutrin was fantastic, but I > > developed a rash within twoweeks.  Effexor at 75 mg was fine, but at > 75 + > > 37.5 caused (I thought) mild seizure-type tingling throughout my > body.  Now, > > I am on 75 mg Effexor and 20 mg Desaprimine, which works pretty well, > but > > not as well as the other too.  Also, the "seizures" have started > again, only > > onmy left side, and emanating from the spot in my thigh that has > always > > tingled and "spasm’d".  I am beginning to think that it is MS related > rather > > than drugrelated.  If the neuro confirms this, I will probably go > back to > > Effexor, at a higher dosage. > > Suzanne > > Diana Calder <d.r.calder@home

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> > news:PQQD5.420473$8u4.4933426@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com… > > > Hi All! > > > Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which > ones? and > > > are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went > on it > > > when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel > depressed.  I > > > am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . > > > Diana > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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i take Celexa 20 mg in the a.m. and Neurontin 100 mg a.m. and noon and 300 mg at bedtime.  my neuro sarted me on the neurontin but my shrink upped it as she says it also helps as a mood stabilizer.  kathy v.

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Hello Diana,         I am on Parnate (Tranylcypromine). It is an old MAOI drug. I changed for a year to Aurorix (Moclobemide) which *seemed* to be good, but then I really *did* get depresses a couple of months ago when things became too much, and I realised that I didn’t have the energy that Parnate had given me. Now I am back to Parnate and very happy with it. My fatigue now seems to be more to do with pushing the limits rather than accepting them!         I know of a friend who was prescribed an SSRI for pain too… Anti depressants do lots of things apart from fiddling with your mood…. I will be interested to see the responses that you get. (and depression or similar symptoms come in lots of different kinds, so there will be a variety of drugs to use….)                         Linda On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 02:19:27 GMT, "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home

wrote: Hi All! Just wanted to know how many of us are on antidepressants, which ones? and are they effective.  I myself am on effexor, 150 mg a day.  I went on it when I started betaseron because the interferon maid me feel depressed.  I am on Rebif now and still taking effexor.  I think it helps a lot . Diana

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 04:23:07 GMT, "Diana Calder" <d.r.calder@home

wrote: Hi! Before I went on prescription antidepressants, I took St. Johns Wort for almost two years.  Gradually, I found that the effects of the St. Johns Wort did not work anymore.  I am starting to wonder if these interferons are the drugs that are causing all the depression in the first place?

No Diana,         I was first prescibed the Parnate in September 1995, well before the interferons (do you mean the drug ones like Betaferon?) were in use. And I am not on any of the ABC drugs. But I know it is a side effect of Betaseron. A girlfriend of mine attempted suicide while on that.   But I suspect there is a very wide range of symptoms of MS that are affected by neurotransmitters and the kind of thing that anti depressants work on. It is just psychoneuropharmacology! <g

I luvvv using that word!  doing things to our brain that

the MS has messed up…. sometimes the symptoms come out like depression. (and sometimes we really are depressed!) We are such a diverse mob! a question that I have about effects gradually wearing off, is, Is this a sign of "addiction"? I know that Parnate is said to be addictive, whereas Aurorix is said not to be…. The Parnate wore off, so I changed for a while. Now it is working again.                                         Linda http://www.ozemail.com.au/~lindafrd/

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That is so excellent, every step in the right direction is a huge step forward! ok…went to see my ob/gyn yesterday for a checkup…and i finally broke down and told him i was suffering with depression…i was so embarrassed…started crying and everything…but he gave me some sample of this drug called Effexor…(spelled right?) i haven’t started taking it yet, guess i’m a little nervous of the side effects, if it has any. and he also gave me a couple of 800 numbers to call to see about therapy…too nervous to call them yet. but just wanted everyone to know, i’m on my way to getting "there" hopefully will be "happy" again… Toni

– "Anything is hard to find, when you will not open your eyes."

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Effexor XR was a good med for me. We’re going to try Zoloft. Effexor XR was fine but I still had some deep depressions. G

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Good to see you working in the solution. Now if I could just KEEP my head out of the problem more often. G

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Good for you, Toni! I’ve been through therapy too, and I know you will find it worth it. Howard

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ok…went to see my ob/gyn yesterday for a checkup…and i finally broke down and told him i was suffering with depression…i was so embarrassed…started crying and everything…but he gave me some sample of this drug called Effexor…(spelled right?) i haven’t started taking it yet, guess i’m a little nervous of the side effects, if it has any. and he also gave me a couple of 800 numbers to call to see about therapy…too nervous to call them yet. but just wanted everyone to know, i’m on my way to getting "there" hopefully will be "happy" again… Toni

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Deb, When I first started Zoloft, I had migraines for about the first two weeks.  My Dr. told me tha this is a very common side effect of Zoloft and does subside after  about two weeks….It was very very hard those first two weeks, but I managed to survive it, and after that, was fine….to this day, don’t know how I did survive it ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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Yikes! Migraines for two weeks?!?!?! How awful for you. I take 150 mgs of Zoloft daily and my experience has been good. No headaches. No decrease at all in either sexual desire or the ability to achieve orgasm (my lover has always said I am the most orgasmic woman he’s ever known… I attribute this to his skill <g). Also, the Zoloft has not unduly affected my appetite, which is good since I run to the underweight side anyway. Prozac and Paxil both killed my appetite completely. Of course, everyone is affected differently.

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One of the most reported side effects of Prozac (or any SSRI) is that of sexual dysfunction.  The higher the dose, the more likely you will experience this side effect.  So….if RSD does cause sexual dysfunction…and…the large amount of Prozac you are taking causes sexual dysfunction…   Well, it seems like you’re dealing with a double whammy. Hope you are able to take something like Viagra to overcome this! Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The prozac was prescribed by Dr. Robert L. Knobler, One of the foremost authorities in RSD and neurological diseases. If you care to dispute that with him, feel free to do so. He is an MD, Phd, psychiatrist and the professor of neurology at the Thomas Jefferson College Of Medicine. In Philadelphia, Pa. Julio This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Deb, I’m not a Pharmacist, but I did take Prozac on two different occasions, and do know some.  A dose of 60mg daily of Prozac is a good healthy dose.  Many people start off at 20mg and stay there for a long time or indefinitely.  Also Prozac can take 6-8 weeks before it starts working, so you may not have given it enough time.  Remember, that 6-8 weeks is an average…some may respond faster, while others take longer to respond. May I ask, who Rx’ed the Prozac to you? Someone else just posted about higher doses should really only be Rx’ed by a Psychiatrist who knows all about the drugs.  On the other hand, Prozac just may not have been the drug for you.  I have been on different Antidepressants (AD’s) over the years, be it for pain, depression, or both (some of the AD’s are also used to treat pain…Elavil, the other tricyclics, ad a new one out called Effexor, which is what I take now….).  Some have worked well, while others didn’t do a thing.  Paxil didn’t work at all for me, while Zoloft worked well, but stopped working completely after about two years, even after increasing the dose. Hope this has helped some…please email me off list if I can help you with anythihng else, or you just want to chat, vent, whatever ;o)…. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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One anti depressant that isn’t supposed to affect libido is Wellbutrin….. Robin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call.  Uh … wait.  Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Joani I read your post and had to giggle thanks for the uplifting post and I couldn’t agree with you more even at 44 Your the best deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead!  If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!!  Joani

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K Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress the libido, give me a call.  Uh … wait.  Once you find that anti-depressant that doesn’t suppress libido, give me a month or two to switch, and then call me. Still intellectually interested in the abstract idea db

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Corna I forget the name of the one that gave me the headache so severly, but I have been on the prozac and the elavil, the prozac was a low dosage so I did not have much problem with that one but the one that gave me the headache…. shish that one you might as well called me a zombie! But I am going to see a new dr for my depression and wanted to get some great advice before talking it over with him deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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I have been taking Elavil and Zoloft. 100mg. Elavil and 100 mg of Zoloft….taken the Elavil longer, about ten years! So…the dry mouth is really, really a problem because I also have Sjrogren’s! I may be 65….but…I Am Not Dead!  If you get my meaning…but..it is hard to find a "friend" at my age…so in the long run, I guess not having any isn’t to bad a problem. But I sure do Miss It!!!!  Joani

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The only anti-depressants that I’ve tried were the tricyclics (but I went through over a half-dozen of them) and in anything near an effective dosage, libido wasn’t the only problem — every one of them (and the others I suppose too) are psycho-active drugs and every one of them produces personality changes, after all, they ARE psycho-active drugs. The common side-effects are loss of libido, a general tranquilizing effect (that can be quite severe), and a sometimes separate loss of "will-power". And several of them also have cardiac side effects too. I also found that with Elavil (amytriptaline ?sp?) that the dry-mouth was intolerable in the dosage I required (100 mg).         Norm

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Howard thanks a million for your input! deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard Aloha! Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again. At least, I think so.  Maybe not. Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)   -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Ty thanks for the input I know I have alot of side affects from different ones.. weight gain to headaches etc and I was just trying to get all the imput possible before asking the dr for another type. deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Julio Nice neighbor hahaha I took prozac once and I didn’t think it seemed to help me much at all as I recall it was only 60mg but I took it for two months and still was in my black mood I wonder if maybe I needed a higher dosage… thanks for the input deb/fl

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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This is pure nonsense. A very large percentage of all people taking Prozac report diminished or absent interest in sex, or delayed or absent orgasm. This is more likely to occur on large doses, and 80 mg./day is a large dose. Make sure that the prescribing MD knows what he/she is doing. Normally, only psychiatrists know enough about the kind of conditions that justify very large doses of Prozac. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am up to 80Mg of Prozac a day, and the doctor said; "it’s not the prozac that dampens the sex drive." He went on to say that due to RSD affecting the lymbic system and the brain stem, (Primitive brain) That dampens the sex drive, and the ability to have an effective erection. My neighbors have the audacity to call me a hard man. LOL Julio It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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 It seems that no 2 people react the same to any given anti-depresant. I’ve tried a half dozen or so and can’t take any of them for one reason or another. a few really psycotic reactions convinced me that the whole class of meds probably was not a good thing for me. So far, none of my doctors has managed to convince me otherwise and believe me, they’re NOT likely to. That said, My partner takes Wellbutrin with very few unwanted side effects and only a little damping of the sex drive. (Of course, with a stiff neck and bad shoulders…. but that’s another story) Good luck Ty

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Each antidepressant is a little different, and individual reactions differ, but Luvox is very similar to Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and others. It is prescribed less often because it is more likely to cause problems with nausea, and it is only labled for obsessive-compulsive disorder, though this is stricly a marketing ploy. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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I was on zoloft, with a similar problem, and they put me on Luvox, which apparently has less affect on sexual functioning, although they’ve only tested it on *men*. Better, but still not what it was… Libido’s not as much of a problem as the climax issue. I’ve used up lots of batteries…. K. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Prozac is well-known to reduce sexual interest, interfere with orgasm, etc. Same is true for other members of Prozac family, including Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, probably Effexor. Celexa might be better. Not clear yet. Other antidepressants don’t interfere with sexual interest, but the "tricyclic antidepressants" do often cause weight gain. Elavil, Tofranil, Pamelor, and others. (These are brand names. They have all gone generic, but the generics are harder to spell. amitriptylene is one of them. nortriptylene is another. imipramine is a third.) Antidepressants that don’t often cause weight gain and don’t normally interfere with sexual interest include Serzone and Wellbutrin, also Remeron, but watch out for weight gain, and trazadone (brand name is Desyrel). Maybe a few others I didn’t think of. There is a recent trend to help chronic pain sufferers with Depakote and Neurontin, particularly Neurontin. It’s labeled as an anticonvulsant, but has several good psychiatric uses. HTH. Tim Miller – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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Hell o Deb, What type of antidepressants are you on that effect your sexlife.  I ask because I have know sexual urges at all and I know that a big part of it is that I am in constant pain which just shrivels up all of my sexualness period, but I am also on Prosac.  Do you know anything about that drug? Thanks, Erica Glynn Cona

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If you don’t mind a male entering this discussion – I tried four or five anti-depresants before I found one that works without negatively affecting my sex life or having negative side effects. Zoloft killed my sex drive and so did one or two others. For me Wellbutrin works well (no pun). Howard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aloha! Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question? Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing. So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again.  At least, I think so.  Maybe not. Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)   -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****- Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Hello Everyone I hope you all are having a pain free day.. My question is can anyone give me advice about anti-depressants that do not mess up your sexual urges? Thanks deb/fl

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Aloha!
Oh my!  Is this a chicken and egg question?
Our pain causes depression which will surpress the libido which is even more depressing.
So start on the assumption that once the anti-depressant helps get the pain under control maybe the libido will have a chance to do its thing again.  At least, I think so.  Maybe not.
Alohas!  Suse  (*_*)    -**** Posted from RemarQ, http://www.remarq.com/?a ****-  Search and Read Usenet Discussions in your Browser – FREE –

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Thanks Suse I was also under this impression however I have heard that they have new meds on the market that help with that problem I have seen the commercials on tv about it and just wondered if anyone from the group had tried any of them and how they thought they worked compared to the conventional anti-depressants deb/fl

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Well Celexa is supposed to be good for that… i am on it and it really did snap me out of my depression BUT despite what the "they say" my libido has definitely been affected along with the ability to climax, which is pretty damn depressing. You may want to try it, everyone is different and it’s supposed to have fewer side affects.

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Yikes !!! Nope I think I would rather be happy and not sexually deprived hahaha thanks for your info deb/fl

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Newsgroup: I’m hoping you might have some suggestions for me. I have a friend who has had chronic depression most of her life and has been on almost every antidepressant out there. She’s not bipolar. She recently had four ECT treatments and her pdoc took her off all of her meds for that. She definitely sounded more alert being off her meds, but now he put her back on them and she sounds worse than ever. She takes Effexor XR 450 mg. Remeron 45 mg. Zyprexa 10 mg. and Xanax as needed.  This woman is soooo lethargic, fatigued, unmotivated etc. that she just sits and cries. Every medication she takes causes fatigue.  I know because I went through a similar situation with the Effexor XR.  The fatigue from the meds were making me depressed. Anyway, I am accompanying her to see her pdoc on Monday to see if we can get some answers.  Any input on this situation would be greatly appreciated. Glenda

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Glenda, My first question is—why is your friend on Zyprexa if she is depressed and not bipolar, which I assume means that she has never displayed mania?  Zyprexa is major anti-psychotic or "downer." Robert

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Robert: Neuroleptics are sometimes added to AD regimens as augmentation…it helps with uncontrollable suicidal ideation, for instance. One who is there now. Jim "I never had problems with drugs, I had problems with the police." Keith Richards

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<Posted and Mailed to Glenda Newsgroup: I’m hoping you might have some suggestions for me. I have a friend who has had chronic depression most of her life and has been on almost every antidepressant out there. She’s not bipolar. She recently had four ECT treatments and her pdoc took her off all of her meds for that. She definitely sounded more alert being off her meds, but now he put her back on them and she sounds worse than ever. She takes Effexor XR 450 mg. Remeron 45 mg. Zyprexa 10 mg. and Xanax as needed.

If the diagnosis is severe clinical depression, I fail to see why she is taking an antipsychotic. IMO she is way over medicated! I suggest that she get a second opinion ASAP! The Effexor dose is very high as well. Remeron makes many people very sleepy as does Zyprexa and Xanax. This woman is soooo lethargic, fatigued, unmotivated etc. that she just sits and cries.

Considering what she is taking, that is not terribly surprising! Every medication she takes causes fatigue.  I know because I went through a similar situation with the Effexor XR.  The fatigue from the meds were making me depressed. Anyway, I am accompanying her to see her pdoc on Monday to see if we can get some answers.  Any input on this situation would be greatly appreciated.

I suggest that you tell Dr. Mengle adios! What she is taking would turn Robin Williams into a zombie! Glenda

Most sincerely, James D. Milton Standard Medical Disclaimer Any opinions stated should NOT be considered as medical advice! You should confirm any suggestions made with your physician who is solely responsible for prescribing ALL medications and monitoring the patient’s progress. Make NO changes in your prescribed dosages without the approval of your doctor!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroup: I’m hoping you might have some suggestions for me. I have a friend who has had chronic depression most of her life and has been on almost every antidepressant out there. She’s not bipolar. She recently had four ECT treatments and her pdoc took her off all of her meds for that. She definitely sounded more alert being off her meds, but now he put her back on them and she sounds worse than ever. She takes Effexor XR 450 mg. Remeron 45 mg. Zyprexa 10 mg. and Xanax as needed.  This woman is soooo lethargic, fatigued, unmotivated etc. that she just sits and cries. Every medication she takes causes fatigue.  I know because I went through a similar situation with the Effexor XR.  The fatigue from the meds were making me depressed. Anyway, I am accompanying her to see her pdoc on Monday to see if we can get some answers.  Any input on this situation would be greatly appreciated. Glenda

She must rattle so much she makes a good musical instrument.A bit like being a semi comatose member of the percussion family being played by a demented psychiatrist.

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Hi Glenda, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m hoping you might have some suggestions for me. I have a friend who has had chronic depression most of her life and has been on almost every antidepressant out there. She’s not bipolar. She recently had four ECT treatments and her pdoc took her off all of her meds for that. She definitely sounded more alert being off her meds, but now he put her back on them and she sounds worse than ever. She takes Effexor XR 450 mg. Remeron 45 mg. Zyprexa 10 mg. and Xanax as needed.  This woman is soooo lethargic, fatigued, unmotivated etc. that she just sits and cries. Every medication she takes causes fatigue.  I know because I went through a similar situation with the Effexor XR.  The fatigue from the meds were making me depressed. Anyway, I am accompanying her to see her pdoc on Monday to see if we can get some answers.  Any input on this situation would be greatly appreciated.

Perhaps she is overmedicated. It is important that her pdoc be informed of her response to the RX meds. Peace, —

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Hi, From how I understand it, it is the degree of the movement and the length they last.  Like with myoclonus, is fast quick jerky movememts.  I know there is a site that describes each movement much better, but do not have that address. I know someone will add that info. (Thanks). Hope that helps alittle. Cathy

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Thanks. Just trying to figure out just what it is exactly that I have, besides Essential Tremor. Trevor – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, From how I understand it, it is the degree of the movement and the length they last.  Like with myoclonus, is fast quick jerky movememts.  I know there is a site that describes each movement much better, but do not have that address. I know someone will add that info. (Thanks). Hope that helps alittle. Cathy

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Hi all. I’m new here. I’ve had Essential Tremor for 23 years (since I was 13) and now my doc has told me I have Myoclonus too. I’ve looked into that, and it seems to me that Myoclonus and dystonia are very similar. I don’t understand much medical terminology, so if anyone would be kind enough to explain the difference in plain English, I’d appreciate it. T

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WebfootVA schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BTW, though you said you take it at night.  Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack?  If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both.  I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past.  For me, this was never a big deal.  I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again.  It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm.  If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again.  I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem!  Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful.  Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose?  I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris —

  Iris, I feel your doctor knows about your fear of meds (which I recognize completely) and therefore starts your medication on a very low dose indeed. You should have no problems taking this at any time of the day. And: the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Try it and do it asap because you’ve been torturing yourself for too long now. Just do it! You’ll survive. Just as I did, so many times now (and still fraking out over every new med but having learnt to take it. If I can do it, you certainly can! I wish you knew me better to discover how true this is… Philip Peters

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WebfootVA schreef: BTW, though you said you take it at night.  Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack?  If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both.  I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past.  For me, this was never a big deal.  I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again.  It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm.  If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again.  I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem!  Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful.  Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose?  I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris —   Iris, I feel your doctor knows about your fear of meds (which I recognize completely) and therefore starts your medication on a very low dose indeed. You should have no problems taking this at any time of the day. And: the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Try it and do it asap because you’ve been torturing yourself for too long now. Just do it! You’ll survive. Just as I did, so many times now (and still fraking out over every new med but having learnt to take it. If I can do it, you certainly can! I wish you knew me better to discover how true this is… Philip Peters

Philip: What a nice reply!  I’m going to print it out and tape it to the mirror, ’cause I’ve decided I’m going to start tonight! Iris (hoping to be successful…) —

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BTW, though you said you take it at night.  Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack?  If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris, I do both.  I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past.  For me, this was never a big deal.  I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again.  It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene

Well, I’ll probably have to take it in the morning then, or at least with my dinner around 7pm.  If I eat much later, I feel queasy when I go to bed. I need to start working out again.  I don’t have a weight problem but I am noticing a growing flab problem!  Exercise was my salvation when I had PA’s 10 years ago, but now I’ve developed a bit of a phobia–also, I suspect tied to the rapid heart rate, sweating, etc. BTW, the doc wants me to start out on 25 mg for a week then increase to 50mg where I’ll stay if the drug is successful.  Is 25 mg a low enough dose to start? Should I ask him for a lower dose?  I only weigh about 112, although I have a friend who doesn’t even tip the scales at 100 lbs and she started at 50 mg with no problem. Ever more questions. Iris —

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BTW, though you said you take it at night.  Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack?  If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Hi Iris,

I do both.  I used to eat late dinners when I worked until 9pm so I could eat with my husband in the past.  For me, this was never a big deal.  I either eat a very light dinner at 5pm with my kids and a big snack later on, or I just have a late dinner, but I always eat before the meds. I also work out 5-6 times a week in the mornings at the gym as I’ve tended to gain weight with any of the meds in the past and I didn’t want to go that route again.  It also helps a lot with the everyday stress and gives me exposure to the rapid heart rate….rapid breathing symptoms, which I’m hoping will eventually help me prevent relapse once this goes into remission again. take care, Lene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others? PS make sure you eat with it.  I noticed a BIG difference in severity of side effects depending on whether I had a full stomache or not.

Good advice Lene.  I’m still working on starting my Zoloft (sigh…) and the reason I was leaning toward taking it at breakfast was to lessen the side effect possibility.  I’ve had this reaction with several other drugs. If I take them with food (if it’s an option), I always tolerate them better.  I’m not a scientist, but I think food slows the absorbtion rate, so your body can better adjust. BTW, though you said you take it at night.  Do you eat dinner late or do you take it with a snack?  If I started to eat my dinner at 9pm I would not only have bad indigestion, I’d probably weigh about 10 pounds more than I do now! Iris —

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Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take?

<snipped for space I’m not a doctor but I do believe that, while there is a possibility that you are experiencing a reaction to Zoloft, it’s an infinitessimal one. Most likely you have hyped yourself up over it with anticipation. ISTM a little too early for any reaction at all, good or bad… Sad to say, we anxiety types do this all too easily — Gary Cooper

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Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others?

Side effects with zoloft at first are extremely common.  I’ve been on it for 10 weeks, My side effects lasted about four weeks.  However, my husband who is also on zoloft for chronic pain management had few side effects and none of the ones that I did.    I found that I had to work a bit with the time I took it, to manage the side effects better at first. Some people are just more sensitive to meds.  Myself included.  I usually have side effects to everything.  Try and keep in mind that that the side effects are a temporary situation and well worth getting through in order to give it a chance and see if this is the answer for you. PS make sure you eat with it.  I noticed a BIG difference in severity of side effects depending on whether I had a full stomache or not. take care Lene – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Okay, after taking Zoloft for the first time last night, I felt so wired up today. How long are the side effects going to take? Why do some people have more side effects at first than others? Is it kind of a Riddlin effect.  Kids who take it and don’t need it tend to react to it differently and get hyped up.  and whereas kids who need the medication the most feel the effect immediately.    mmm.  in that case  is it true that if you’re feeling overanxious when initially using Zoloft   that you’re closer to healthy than you are sick?    just a hopeful thought

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