What is DHEA? When I was in college I had a blood test that said I was low in this, but noone could give me a clear answer on what that meant. Also, what vitamin supplement works? Thanks.
DHEA is a ‘dietary supplement’ that makes up for its lack of demonstrated effectiveness with wildly exaggerated claims. The _only_ indication that for vitamins to have any use at all in the treatment of asthma is for vitamin C. However this is only as a protective effect against ozone exposure and even then the effect is weak. Anything else is nothing more than hot air. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein
I also suspect a link between my Flovent use and anxiety. Glad to hear it’s not just in my head. Is there any alternative? I’m going to start going for massages, and am considering seeing a counsellor if that doesn’t work. I’ve had a few episodes where my heart rate has jumped to over 130 for no obvious reason, and then taken several hours to come down. If that dosent work, its probably the steroids. I’ve heard DHEA and a multi vitamin can help with the agitation.
What is DHEA? When I was in college I had a blood test that said I was low in this, but noone could give me a clear answer on what that meant. Also, what vitamin supplement works? Thanks.
if Ventolin gives you the shakes….it is almsot assuredly responsible for the agitation as well. It works that way with me. Just because it takes a long time to go away doesn’t mean anything. try using an Aerochamber spacer if you don’t already. And talk to your doctor. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My rescue inhaler (not Ventolin) makes me agitated and it comes on quite soon after taking it. Also drinking more coffee than usual does. What dose are you taking of ‘the usual ventolin’? writes I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids? Jerry Freedman,Jr — Surfer! Web site: http://www dot nevis dash view dot demon dot co dot uk Send Email to: {$surfer$} at nevis dash view dot demon dot co dot uk I am the original poster: To be specific I have, apparently – the pulmonary docs keep dancing around by saying "asthma-like condition – coughing asthma that is triggered by a cold/flu. After a bout with a cold or flu I get a killer cough that sometimes won’t even respond to prednisone. The Dr has me using ventolin ( although I never have the asthma symptoms most of the readers have ) 4 times a day – 2 puffs. Since I don’t have the breathing problems most have I often don’t make this. I am aware of the ventolin shakes but the "agitation" I am talking about lasts longer and doesn’t seem to be connected, causally to ventolin. Jerry Freedman
— Emily
The feelings that you are experiencing sound very similar to feelings that I have had, when using Flovent 110mcg – two puffs twice daily. When using the Flovent, I become agitated, agressive, and extremely difficult to live with. In fact, I cannot stand myself, and I do not blame anyone else for complaining about my behavior. This is just one of many side effects that I have to contend with; however, which is worse – nice with no breathing – or an agressive animal with lots of "lung power"??!! Lungs that function are an important part of my life! J Meyer love the Lord w/all your heart. matt 22:37
Yes, I have found this to be true in my past steroidal based inhaler use as well as prednisone. It is not uncommon. Counseling may not be a bad idea to help you deal with every day stress as well as the stress of dealing with a chronic illness
I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids?
Do you take your ventolin regularly before your flowvent dosage? I used too, but stopped being the ventolin made me nervious, and I didn’t really need it. If your still wheezing, up your steriod dosage and drop the un needed ventolin. If that dosent work, its probably the steroids. I’ve heard DHEA and a multi vitamin can help with the agitation.
DEAR JERRY, Iknow how you feel. I have been taking oral steroids for over 10 years (prednisone-up to 40mg daily) and my nerves are driving me crazy. It’s the only medication that controls my asthma. I take "puffers too. If I know of any help. i"ll let you know. Please email me. I’d like to know more about your problem. Thanks. julie
I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids?
It’s highly unlikely. It’s more likely that your stressful life is catching up with you. Chris Owens
I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids? Jerry Freedman,Jr
My rescue inhaler (not Ventolin) makes me agitated and it comes on quite soon after taking it. Also drinking more coffee than usual does. What dose are you taking of ‘the usual ventolin’? writes I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids? Jerry Freedman,Jr
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My rescue inhaler (not Ventolin) makes me agitated and it comes on quite soon after taking it. Also drinking more coffee than usual does. What dose are you taking of ‘the usual ventolin’? writes I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids? Jerry Freedman,Jr — Surfer! Web site: http://www dot nevis dash view dot demon dot co dot uk Send Email to: {$surfer$} at nevis dash view dot demon dot co dot uk
I am the original poster: To be specific I have, apparently – the pulmonary docs keep dancing around by saying "asthma-like condition – coughing asthma that is triggered by a cold/flu. After a bout with a cold or flu I get a killer cough that sometimes won’t even respond to prednisone. The Dr has me using ventolin ( although I never have the asthma symptoms most of the readers have ) 4 times a day – 2 puffs. Since I don’t have the breathing problems most have I often don’t make this. I am aware of the ventolin shakes but the "agitation" I am talking about lasts longer and doesn’t seem to be connected, causally to ventolin. Jerry Freedman
I lead a stressful life but I have been handling it. Recently I have been on a sustaining dose ( 2 puffs twice a day of 220 mcg flovent, one niff each nostril twice a day for flonase) of steroids ( plus usual ventolin ). I notice I am getting more "agitated" to the point where I am considering counseling. could this be attributed to the steroids? Jerry Freedman,Jr
2 pf x 2 of Flovent 220 (880 ug fluticasone) is a High Dose of inhaled steroid, plus the additional from the Flonase. It’s possible to start getting the same side effects as oral steroids like prednisone, when on High Dose inhaled steroids. Be sure to use an AeroChamber spacer with the Flovent 220 MDI; it cuts the side spray and consequent side effects in half. Also rinse, gargle, spit out after inhaling Flovent. Side effects of steroids are dose dependent. Some steroid sparing drugs could be tried to reduce the Flovent dose; theophylline SR, Singulair, Serevent. The Flonase dose may also be reduced in some cases; or try using Nasalcrom (nasal cromolyn) or/and antihistamines, if allergic, and decongestants. If you are allergic to allergens in the air in the house, an air cleaner may help, or other avoidance techniques. Ellis
I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime. I also use the ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often). Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks
I do not know all your medicines but I am new to singulair and finding it a little agitating, restless making. Fortunately for me another non asthma medicine I take makes me drowsy. I have a feeling that if it doesn’t go away you might look at singulair as the culprit. You know the principle of single subject testing don’t you? To be sure, you must go off the suspected medicine, have the side effects go away, then go back on again, and have them come back, and go off again (if you can’t stand them) and have them go away. I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime. I also use the ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often). Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks
I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime. I also use the ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often). Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks
Bronchodilators are the asthma meds most likely to cause this symptom. It could be the Serevent. It can take some time to get used to it; I had nightmares when I 1st started taking it, which subsided after a couple of months. Some have to reduce the dose of Serevent. Albuterol could also do this, especially in nebulizer form. Each nebulizer treatment (2.5 gm albuterol) is equivalent to 10 puffs of albuterol by Metered Dose Inhaler. More info at www.rxlist.com type in name of drug. Ellis
People are so different in how they react. I have never heard that about serevent and never would have suspected it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime. I also use the ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often). Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks Bronchodilators are the asthma meds most likely to cause this symptom. It could be the Serevent. It can take some time to get used to it; I had nightmares when I 1st started taking it, which subsided after a couple of months. Some have to reduce the dose of Serevent. Albuterol could also do this, especially in nebulizer form. Each nebulizer treatment (2.5 gm albuterol) is equivalent to 10 puffs of albuterol by Metered Dose Inhaler. More info at www.rxlist.com type in name of drug. Ellis
I take azmacort-3 puffs 2x a day, serevent-2 puffs 2x a day and singulair at bedtime. I also use the ventolin inhaler as needed(or in the nebulizer–which is not very often). Does anyone know if any of this medication can cause insomnia? Thanks Yes, definitely…Serevent and/or ventolin. It’s after 1 am, and I am still up having taken the same meds! I’m experimenting with changing the time I take the Serevent…if I solve this problem, I’ll let you know. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma
Thanks. I had pushed the time later as to taking the singulair, hoping that the effects of it would last longer into the following day. But I’m assuming that taking singulair, serevent, azmacort and ventolin (if needed) at midnight is just a little to much before bedtime
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, definitely…Serevent and/or ventolin. It’s after 1 am, and I am still up having taken the same meds! I’m experimenting with changing the time I take the Serevent…if I solve this problem, I’ll let you know. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma
I too am on Serevent and have had trouble sleeping and also HORRIBLE nightmares for the last month. I’ve been on Serevent for a month!! And I have never had nightmares before in my life. I thought I was going crazy! But thanks to Ellis’s post I now know whats causing them!
Thanks. I had pushed the time later as to taking the singulair, hoping that the effects of it would last longer into the following day. But I’m assuming that taking singulair, serevent, azmacort and ventolin (if needed) at midnight is just a little to much before bedtime Recently I’ve pushed the time I take the Serevent later until just before I hit the sack. Seems I read that it peaks at 4 hours, so I’m trying to see what happens if I get to sleep before it really takes effect. Well….worth a try I thought. Will let you know. BTWm prednisome makes sleeping a problem too. rec.crafts.textiles.needlework alt.support.asthma
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After this I tried Celexa, Effexor and Zoloft. Each helped for a week or two and then the irritability and aggression began to steadily increase until it became urgent that I stop the drug. Hi Louise, I had feelings and thoughts of aggression for a few weeks after starting to raise the Zoloft dose to high levels. What I did was take a little bit of Benadryl, about a few grains from a broken store-brand capsule, to settle the agitation. Eventually after a few days of the Benadryl the agitation stopped and never came back again. I also started raising the dose very gradually. I have a family history of bipolar (called manic depressive back then), and my pdoc concluded that I should NEVER take any more SSRIs because I have the biological tendency to become manic from them. Are you sure you are manic on them permanently? Some of us get manic on them for a while, but only for a while. I was euphorically hypomanic from Zoloft for four months, with some jitters thrown in. Eventually all that left. How long were you on any of the SSRIs? So, does anyone know whether the Klonopin would prevent the irritable, agitated and aggressive symptoms that I always get after a few weeks on an SSRI? Would it be worth trying an SSRI now that I am solidly on Klonopin or is it likely that the same thing will happen? Well, I took Benadryl for a few days to calm down the agitation. It wasn’t much–just a few grains once or twice a day–not enough to make one sleepy. It worked for me. It is used to help those who go through akathisia/ agressiveness when having starting SSRIs. It may or may not work for you.
I was never on an SSRI for more than a month or two because my I and my pdoc and my therapist became fearful that my anger and irritation were so intense that I would lose control and they felt I should get off of them. I guess I was wondering whether the Klonopin would be like the Benedryl. Louise — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::Two people I was very close to have passed away in the last ::6 months and another is moving far away in about 6 weeks. ::The moving has thrown me over the line and I am becoming ::more and chronically depressed, hopeless and it’s getting ::real hard to function in the mornings. <gently snipped Dear Louise, Sorry about all the loss in your life. (((((Louise))))) You seem so sensitive to lots of medication. Have you thought about getting some therapy to help deal with your feelings of loss? It could help you a lot. Healing thoughts being sent your way. Jackie ~*~If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude~*~ ~~ Maya Angelou quote
I’m sorry, I should have said that I am in therapy. In fact, in January, my therapist of 10 years suddenly had a stroke and died – that is one of the "losses". I have started with someone else….but it’s not the same and I don’t know if it ever will be. Louise — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
::I’m sorry, I should have said that I am in therapy. In ::fact, in January, my therapist of 10 years suddenly had a ::stroke and died – that is one of the "losses". I’m so sorry (((((Louise))))) Jackie ~*~Life is not the way it’s supposed to be. It’s the way it is. The way you deal with it is what makes the difference~*~ ~~ Virginia Satir — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Over the last 10+ years, I’ve tried several SSRIs to treat a chronic low level, lifelong depression. I have also suffered from a lot of anxiety and panic attacks and have usually been thought to have an "agitated depression" when I’ve sought psychiatric help. The only ADs that ever helped were the ones that put me to sleep and made me just able to function, but not "live", because I’d rather be sleeping, almost no matter what. That was Luvox. But when the dose of Luvox was raised, I didn’t become more sleepy, I became more agitated, argumentative and intolerably irritable. I was on the verge of destruction – myself and others. After this I tried Celexa, Effexor and Zoloft. Each helped for a week or two and then the irritability and aggression began to steadily increase until it became urgent that I stop the drug. I have a family history of bipolar (called manic depressive back then), and my pdoc concluded that I should NEVER take any more SSRIs because I have the biological tendency to become manic from them. I used Lamictal for several years with minimal success. I need to take lots of benzos to counter the panic attacks and eventually began getting them in a variety of ways because the pdoc didn’t want me to take them every day (ativan mostly). Then I stopped the lamictal and felt better, as I suspected I would. I was off all medication except for ativan prn for about 8 months. Then, last May (06), there were some serious changes in my life and I became extremely anxious. I went to see a new pdoc who suggested that we focus on the panic attacks and the anxiety and see what happens. I am now taking 2mg Klonopin daily and it has definitely helped to level me out and yet, to leave me able to feel and think clearly and have good judgment. It has provided a lot of relief with minimal side effects. I don’t really care that it might be addictive. Two people I was very close to have passed away in the last 6 months and another is moving far away in about 6 weeks. The moving has thrown me over the line and I am becoming more and chronically depressed, hopeless and it’s getting real hard to function in the mornings. Seroquel was suggested but I refused it because of its potential to cause diabetes. This is a disease I dread and I will not take a drug that makes it happen to some people and they don’t know why! So, does anyone know whether the Klonopin would prevent the irritable, agitated and aggressive symptoms that I always get after a few weeks on an SSRI? Would it be worth trying an SSRI now that I am solidly on Klonopin or is it likely that the same thing will happen? Thanks for reading this long post and for any experiences and/or suggestions you have. Louise — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Over the last 10+ years, I’ve tried several SSRIs to treat a chronic low level, lifelong depression. I have also suffered from a lot of anxiety and panic attacks and have usually been thought to have an "agitated depression" when I’ve sought psychiatric help. The only ADs that ever helped were the ones that put me to sleep and made me just able to function, but not "live", because I’d rather be sleeping, almost no matter what. That was Luvox. But when the dose of Luvox was raised, I didn’t become more sleepy, I became more agitated, argumentative and intolerably irritable. I was on the verge of destruction – myself and others. After this I tried Celexa, Effexor and Zoloft. Each helped for a week or two and then the irritability and aggression began to steadily increase until it became urgent that I stop the drug. I have a family history of bipolar (called manic depressive back then), and my pdoc concluded that I should NEVER take any more SSRIs because I have the biological tendency to become manic from them. I used Lamictal for several years with minimal success. I need to take lots of benzos to counter the panic attacks and eventually began getting them in a variety of ways because the pdoc didn’t want me to take them every day (ativan mostly). Then I stopped the lamictal and felt better, as I suspected I would. I was off all medication except for ativan prn for about 8 months. Then, last May (06), there were some serious changes in my life and I became extremely anxious. I went to see a new pdoc who suggested that we focus on the panic attacks and the anxiety and see what happens. I am now taking 2mg Klonopin daily and it has definitely helped to level me out and yet, to leave me able to feel and think clearly and have good judgment. It has provided a lot of relief with minimal side effects. I don’t really care that it might be addictive. Two people I was very close to have passed away in the last 6 months and another is moving far away in about 6 weeks. The moving has thrown me over the line and I am becoming more and chronically depressed, hopeless and it’s getting real hard to function in the mornings. Seroquel was suggested but I refused it because of its potential to cause diabetes. This is a disease I dread and I will not take a drug that makes it happen to some people and they don’t know why! So, does anyone know whether the Klonopin would prevent the irritable, agitated and aggressive symptoms that I always get after a few weeks on an SSRI?
Klonopin isn’t a mood stabilizer, so my guess is that it wouldn’t prevent a mood swing to hypomania/mania. Our resident psychiatrist Margrove might be able to suggest a good med combo. Bupropion (Wellbutrin) is used for depression in bipolars cause it is thought it is less likely than other antidepressants to result in a mood swing . Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
::Two people I was very close to have passed away in the last ::6 months and another is moving far away in about 6 weeks. ::The moving has thrown me over the line and I am becoming ::more and chronically depressed, hopeless and it’s getting ::real hard to function in the mornings. <gently snipped Dear Louise, Sorry about all the loss in your life. (((((Louise))))) You seem so sensitive to lots of medication. Have you thought about getting some therapy to help deal with your feelings of loss? It could help you a lot. Healing thoughts being sent your way. Jackie ~*~If you don’t like something, change it. If you can’t change it, change your attitude~*~ ~~ Maya Angelou quote — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
After this I tried Celexa, Effexor and Zoloft. Each helped for a week or two and then the irritability and aggression began to steadily increase until it became urgent that I stop the drug.
Hi Louise, I had feelings and thoughts of aggression for a few weeks after starting to raise the Zoloft dose to high levels. What I did was take a little bit of Benadryl, about a few grains from a broken store-brand capsule, to settle the agitation. Eventually after a few days of the Benadryl the agitation stopped and never came back again. I also started raising the dose very gradually. I have a family history of bipolar (called manic depressive back then), and my pdoc concluded that I should NEVER take any more SSRIs because I have the biological tendency to become manic from them.
Are you sure you are manic on them permanently? Some of us get manic on them for a while, but only for a while. I was euphorically hypomanic from Zoloft for four months, with some jitters thrown in. Eventually all that left. How long were you on any of the SSRIs? So, does anyone know whether the Klonopin would prevent the irritable, agitated and aggressive symptoms that I always get after a few weeks on an SSRI? Would it be worth trying an SSRI now that I am solidly on Klonopin or is it likely that the same thing will happen?
Well, I took Benadryl for a few days to calm down the agitation. It wasn’t much–just a few grains once or twice a day–not enough to make one sleepy. It worked for me. It is used to help those who go through akathisia/ agressiveness when having starting SSRIs. It may or may not work for you. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Hi, Tony, How many more are there??? Do you get the pick of the litter??? "..boy dog who still doesn’t admit to having anything to do with this pregnancy." – yeah I see this a lot when the Jerry Springer show is on TV…UGH! Keep us updated on how the pups are doing. Pictures would be nice too???? And YOU better be dusting off your walking shoes…<VBG smiles, Elise
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The mommy dog is doing fine. I guess women wish humans were born so easily. She just went upstairs to a bedroom walk-in closet and squatted. She probably wanted to keep the puppies away from the boy dog who still doesn’t admit to having anything to do with this pregnancy. :-D Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Thanks for your reply Doug. :-) I’m going to send it to my friend who asked the Effexor question. So sorry it pooped out on you. So many meds do that after a while. {{{{{Doug}}}}} Di
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA Hugs, Di Diane, I took Effexor for about a year and found it to be approximately equal to Paxil. That is, it significantly reduced my overall anxiety level, but couldn’t stop situational panic attacks. A benzo was necessary to stop or prevent a panic attack. (I have sp, not pd so I don’t know if a comparison can be made re. the pa’s.) I don’t recall the Effexor dose (either 75 or 150 mg per day), but it had roughly the same effect as my previous 40 mg of Paxil/day. Since I had an abnormally high no. of side effects both on Paxil and Effexor, my comments in this area probably aren’t worth much to you so I’ll just skip them. One major negative and it was a dandy: After 1 year, the Effexor just quit working and I had to go back on Paxil. However, as you already know, if one drug stops working, another in the same category may very well get the job done. Doug
Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA Hugs, Di
Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA Hugs, Di
Hi Di! Pros: blocks PAs Cons: can raise your blood pressure so you have to monitor it on a regular basis; discontinuation syndrome when withdrawaling from the med tends to be more difficult than with most of the SSRIs (Paxil also tends to have a difficult withdrawal syndrome) Chip
I took effexor for panic/anxiety. It didn’t do much for me besides the one side effect that I developed on the first day of taking it. It was a dry cough that wouldn’t stop. Especially at night. I stopped taking it after 2 weeks, and still haven’t tried anything else. Doing much better on my own, but of course there’s those off days. LIKE TODAY!! S
do a search on google groups for many more answers than you could possibly read – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA Hugs, Di
Hi, Di, Don’t know anything about Effexor. Probably one of the only meds I haven’t tried… Are you thinking of going on it??? smiles, Elise
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Effexor (the non-XR variant) did nothing but make me more nervous. As a matter of fact the first few hours after taking effexor were so bad I had to plan when to take it. It also had some other bad side effects too (at least for me). -Doug
Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA
Hi Diane, I take 225 mgs of Effexor SR. I also take klonazepam, .5 during the day and 1mg at night. I was on Paxil before that and it pooped out. I credit the Effexor with giving me my creativity back. I didn’t have any bad side effects, just slight nausea for a couple of days each time I increased the dose. But it’s worked well for depression and anxiety. The klonazepam helps for the anxiety, but eventually I will probably need less of it. The Effexor would be forever or until it poops out. Regards, kg.
Anyone taking Effexor? How do you like it for panic/anxiety? Any side effects? You can post positives and negatives. I don’t mind. :-) TIA Hugs, Di
Hi Diane! I take 150mg of Effexor XR daily. It helped me with anxiety/PAs, as well as depression. I had insomnia first few days that I went on it, and a little stomach discomfort, but other than that nothing. It *is* hard, however, to discontinue taking it – you have to wean off *very* slowly and be prepared for some flu-like symptoms and what have been referred to as "brain zaps", but I hear if you take your time weaning off these side effects are much milder or non-existent. I didn’t wean off as slowly as I should have. I went by the drug company’s recommendations, which were *not* helpful! 
HTH! Karen
Effexor XR has worked like a charm for me. I started in the third week in June at 37.5mg. The inital side effects were pretty tough, nausea, dizziness, lack of energy, sweating, and just a general foggy feeling which is hard to describe. The side effects only lasted about a week and a half and the only real benefit from the starting dose was a mild mood improvement. I started 75mg in the second week of july, no side effects but within 4 or 5 days I started to notice an improvement and began to get out more regularily with the aid of benzo. The improvements increased over the next month and with the aid of the odd ativan, I pretty much had my life back and did what I pleased. I still had some anxiety but it was more uncomfortable than controlling. By mid september I cut the ativan out completely and realized that I just didn’t need it anymore and haven’t taken one since. I suggested to my pdoc to up my effexor to 112.5mg to see if it would elimate even the mild and rare anxiety and within a week it did. Anxiety is sometimes in the back of my mind but its almost like it was before when I didn’t even know what it was. For the most part, I simply don’t even think about it. I suggest trying it and if the side effects come on strong, stick through it. Its worth the chance of seeing if it can defeat the anxiety
Thanks Eros! My friend will really appreciate this post. I’m so happy for you that it’s working that well. :-) Please take care. Hugs, Di
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Effexor XR has worked like a charm for me. I started in the third week in June at 37.5mg. The inital side effects were pretty tough, nausea, dizziness, lack of energy, sweating, and just a general foggy feeling which is hard to describe. The side effects only lasted about a week and a half and the only real benefit from the starting dose was a mild mood improvement. I started 75mg in the second week of july, no side effects but within 4 or 5 days I started to notice an improvement and began to get out more regularily with the aid of benzo. The improvements increased over the next month and with the aid of the odd ativan, I pretty much had my life back and did what I pleased. I still had some anxiety but it was more uncomfortable than controlling. By mid september I cut the ativan out completely and realized that I just didn’t need it anymore and haven’t taken one since. I suggested to my pdoc to up my effexor to 112.5mg to see if it would elimate even the mild and rare anxiety and within a week it did. Anxiety is sometimes in the back of my mind but its almost like it was before when I didn’t even know what it was. For the most part, I simply don’t even think about it. I suggest trying it and if the side effects come on strong, stick through it. Its worth the chance of seeing if it can defeat the anxiety
I am taking 75mg Effexor with Neurontin and Klonopin. I started out at 37.5 mg of Effexor for a week, then went to 75mg/day. I see my psydoc on May 21, and I am wondering if she will increase the dosage at that time, as I have read that effexor, being a tricyclic, is usually increased to higher dosages than the 75mg that I am presently taking. It seems to work OK,although I still need the klonopin as a back-up (three 1g tablets/day) to keep the anxiety at bay. I would like to hear from any effexor users about dosage increases and what dosage you are taking and if your doc increased the dosages gradually. Thanks! —
I am taking 75mg Effexor with Neurontin and Klonopin. I started out at 37.5 mg of Effexor for a week, then went to 75mg/day. I see my psydoc on May 21, and I am wondering if she will increase the dosage at that time, as I have read that effexor, being a tricyclic, is usually increased to higher dosages than the 75mg that I am presently taking. It seems to work OK,although I still need the klonopin as a back-up (three 1g tablets/day) to keep the anxiety at bay. I would like to hear from any effexor users about dosage increases and what dosage you are taking and if your doc increased the dosages gradually. Thanks!
I titrated from 75 mg/day to 150 mg/day in a month or so. You could increase the dose faster than a month (every four days or so), however I had to switch doctors in my case. By the way, venlafaxine (Effexor) isn’t a tricyclic. Chris
I started out on 37.5 mg in Feb along with other meds, am now presently up to 300mg a day/ and still need klonapin . I think it will depend on how you adjust with each dose increase. GOOD LUCK TO U
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi…. insomnia and other side effects….I expected this and have been going SLOWLY…but the lower I go, the worse it seems to be getting….. My doc prescribed 150mg of Effexor to help smooth the transition….I have taken MANY antidepressants in the past few years…..the problem is I gained From what I read, Effexor could either cause gain or loss….anyone have any input on this? And how effective is it for the anxiety I feel now…which is not much….but will probably grow as I continue to decrease on my meds….. Please email me if possible as I don’t always check this newsgroup….. JOHN NEW JERSEY
Hi John: Well..I have gotten over the "transition" period with Effexor XR. I take 75mg’s a day, and 9mgs a day of Lectopam (a benzodiazepine..like klonipin..but not available in the U.S.) I don’t really see why you need to be taken off the klonipin, especially if you are going on the Effexor. The two have REALLY changed my life around. It took a few weeks alone..after coming off other meds, but a benzodiazepine calms me well while the Effexor XR (which seems to have THE best clincal track record) keeps me level and energized. Plus, I have actually started to lose weight. Unlike the SRI’s, Effexor is an SNRI, and the serotonin seems to balance out the effects of the norepinephrine increase. Plus, I find no real difficulties with fatigue, irritability, insomnia (was only tough at first..but built up from 37,5mgs), and even no reduced libido. If you aren’t on the XR..I would suggest looking into it…plus..if 150mgs is too tough at first..tell your doctor you’d like to start at between 50, and 75mgs. The Canadian monograph for Effexor XR suggests 75mgs once daily appears to be the "optimal"..150mg’s IF needed…higher doses reserved for hospitalized patients. (Which, I can’t understand why docs are precribing 300mg’s of this stuff to some people, not in psychiatric care???) With benzodiazepines you can develop "dependence", but NOT addiction, as plenty of medical research shows. I will send you medical articles if you like to show you the difference. With dependence, all’s that mean’s is you have to withdraw from it "slowly"….but you do not "crave" higher doses..and it too, is a very safe medication. Talk to your doc..and get back to us. Best wishes.. James — God(s), grant me the Senility To forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune To run over the ones I do, And the eyesight To tell the difference. Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. —Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, D.C. Neurosis is simply THE human condition; some just haven’t realized it yet. Anon
Hi…. insomnia and other side effects….I expected this and have been going SLOWLY…but the lower I go, the worse it seems to be getting….. My doc prescribed 150mg of Effexor to help smooth the transition….I have taken MANY antidepressants in the past few years…..the problem is I gained From what I read, Effexor could either cause gain or loss….anyone have any input on this? And how effective is it for the anxiety I feel now…which is not much….but will probably grow as I continue to decrease on my meds….. Please email me if possible as I don’t always check this newsgroup….. JOHN NEW JERSEY
Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even
Any chance I could pay this Miss Bruinhilde to pay a visit to a certain male Aussie? <VBEG Jackie
WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about to visit a dentist – or who should be – you listening Philip?? )
Me? No, of course not! 
) < snipped something to get to the *root* of the story <g – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!! :-( Ian
ROTFL! Could have been a Buster Keaton movie….. Brrrr…. thanks for scaring me ) Philip (LOL) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
Well Gee Thanks Ian, I’ll keep that horror story in mind when I return to the dentist on Thursday! Meryl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about to visit a dentist – or who should be – you listening Philip?? ) Hi Carmen, Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over. Meryl, my mother had half her intestines removed a couple of years ago and now has colonoscopies regularly. I haven’t checked, but I’m fairly sure that they use one of the benzos IV to sedate her, and dad tells me that he’s getting worried about how much she is starting to enjoy the experience!!!!! (stand by for the "We told you benzos were addictive" comments from the usual loosers!!) <VBEG As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare. I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!! :-( Ian I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen
I’m sure he has. They do tend to get set in their ways. The tricyclic AD I take has a half-life only slightly shorter than the known age of the universe, so it shouldn’t matter when I take it. But I find I do better when I split the dose into three and take 1/3 at about the times I mentioned. Now it may be that its all just my imagination, but it may not all be. Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian
WARNING: This contains stuff a graphic, but humourous, recounting of a dental procedure that may disturb anyone about to visit a dentist – or who should be – you listening Philip?? ) Hi Carmen, Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over.
Meryl, my mother had half her intestines removed a couple of years ago and now has colonoscopies regularly. I haven’t checked, but I’m fairly sure that they use one of the benzos IV to sedate her, and dad tells me that he’s getting worried about how much she is starting to enjoy the experience!!!!! (stand by for the "We told you benzos were addictive" comments from the usual loosers!!) <VBEG As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare.
I’ve been very fortunate to have a reasonably good set of fangs and no fear of dentistry, but having my one and only wisdom tooth removed was both hilarious and heart stopping. The tooth was really well rooted into the gum and no matter how much the dentist yanked on it, it wouldn’t budge. He thought part of the problem was the movement of my head when he was applying maximum pressure, so initially he got this very petite nurse to hold my head still. Naturally that didn’t work. She ended up being tossed from side to side like a seasick sailor. So Miss Petite was promptly replaced by Miss Bruinhilde, a 6ft square block of womanhood with the biggest set of hooters I’ve ever seen. She got a good grip of both ears with her huge plate sized hands, pulled my head back between the triple Z cups and told the dentist to give it his best shot. I guarantee my head didn’t even move a nanometre as the fang doctor yanked and twisted away for what seemed like hours. Finally, there was the almighty crack and the dentist went flying right over me and the chair, smashing his shoulder into the instrument tray/spittoon thingy on the way. So it ended up hurting him a lot more than me. I never felt a thing, except for the ears. They hurt like hell for some days!! :-( Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
Hi Carmen, I don’t think the timing really matters as they are XR. When I switched from 75 mg to 150 mg I was not sure how to use up my 75 mg tablets. Of course my psych was os. I had originally been advised to take 75 mg at night in case I became nauseated. I discussed the extra 75 mg with a friend who is a psych and he suggested 75 mg at night and 75 mg in the morning. Needless to say being the contrary person I am I took the whole 150 mg at night and it works out fine. (I now how 150 mg capsules). I find if I can simplify when I take my medication I am less likely to miss a dose or become confused. Take care, Meryl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie
Hi Carmen, Calling your psychiatrist sounds a good idea. 12 months ago I needed a colonoscopy. My GP told me to double my Xanax the night before and double them the morning of the procedure. His comment was that they will want you sedated anyway. Of course I told the anaesthetist (I had IV sedation). He understood about PD and mercifully I knew nothing of the procedure until it was over. As for root canal work, my daughter had IV sedation when she had her wisdom teeth removed. The alternative was a general. I know the prices here but I’m not sure how they would compare. I know what you mean about sitting in a chair through a long dental procedure. this is my concern. I had an awful choking symptom last time. The dentist was reassuring but I still felt awful. I’ll make sure I have plenty of medication and I’ll be taking the tram, not driving. Good luck with the endoscopy, Meryl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
That’s right. I have a new prescription that I have not filled yet since I still have some of the 75mg tablets. I don’t know but maybe the new prescription has 150mg tablets but I don’t think so. I would think that when he gets me to 300mg maybe they would be 2 – 150mg tablets.
I see no reason NOT to take the 3-75’s all together. I take the 2 150’s together in the morning. I am so forgetful that I wouldn’t remember to take it later in the day. Besides they are the time release capsules. That would work out just fine. But talk with your doctor first. I just refilled all my pill containers last night. I have one for vitamins too. It looks as if I have a drug shop right in my kitchen!!!! I even bought a plastic container to hold all my bottles for me! lol take care Carmen!,Julie
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen
Play it by ear, I’d say. If you can manage that would be great. But if you get *interdose anxiety*you can always take one more dose. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian
if your doc is older then 55 many moons ago it was believed that the timing of medications to approximate some ancient speculated diurnal clock was more effective thus docs rxed the med dosing at various intervals during the day like take 10mg valium at 3pm and an ad 1 hour after-or take the ad before you even put your feet on the floor upon arising etc.. most of this has been debunked over the past 20 years and a few hold out simply to get people to habituate to taking meds at certain times feeling well it can’t hurt to schedule it stringently. LM
Thanks Meryl, My prescription was really screwed when I got out of the hospital. The filled prescriptions said 1 tablet 4 times a day but the discharge papers said "2" tablets 4 times a day. It was a Friday and the pdoc was out of town so the nurse just said take one and if you need 2 , just take them and she would check on it Monday. Monday came and she called me and said it was suppose to be 2 tablets. BTW, they are .5mg tablets. Anyhow, when I called one day when I had bad panic in the morning and wasn’t sure if I took the 2 tablets I called. She called me back and said " the doctor says that only one of the doses should be for 2 tablets and the rest should be 1 tablet. I told her "the bottle says 2 tablets 4 times a day. She called back again and said she spoke with the doc and he said not to change anything and that I should make an appointment which I did. When I saw him, he increased the Effexor and said he didn’t want to change anything just yet and to take what I have been. I assume he would rather I took less but I already was taking 2 tabs 3 x’s a day. The whole episode threw me into a panic state since I thought I was doing good only taking them 3 times instead of 4. I don’t know how long it takes for my body to go to a withdrawal since I have been taking them now for about 7 weeks. I have an appt with him in 2 weeks and I "assume" he will address the xanax. He had just said to be careful with them as they are "highly addictive". Imagine how I felt when I realized that the dose I was taking was on the high side and I had thought I was doing good with 3 doses. So in essence, he didn’t really "prescribe" any specific amount or times and sort of just said to be careful. I really don’t know what to do. How often do you take your xanax and when did you start the Effexor? Thanks Meryl Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
I can ask when I talk to him. I do have a dated pill box but it is so full and it’s "separated with AM – Noon- Dinner- and bedtime. I don’t always take lunch pills at 1:00. My husband does help me remeber tho , sometimes Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie Carmen -ask your doctor this, ok? Why do you have to split the 225 in 2 doses… Since the Effexor is the time release version, could you take the 225 all at once. This will eliminate the confusion. Now if you cannot find dated pill boxes, you can use a clean egg carton. Label the first egg holder with Mon-am, then the one behind it Mon afternoon. This way you will have a better track of taking your medication. I know it only covers 6 days, but you can tape an extra egg carton holder on the end to make it seven days. I use a dated pill holder for my pills. If I forget then I do not take it but I am a wreck all day long. Let us know how you are doing.love,Julie
I guess I can ask, but I would think he had a reason for the times for the doses? Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian
I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen
Just a thought, and one you should run past your doc before acting on, but why not take in when you get up, one at 1PM and one when you go to bed. Ian
Funny you should mention this but I need to go to the dentist too as soon as I can but have been putting it off. I need a root canal and the tooth goes through "quiet" times and the flares up some. My fear is that I will get in the chair and half way through the root canal I will panic and want to jump out of the chair which obviously I couldn’t if the root is exposed. If it were for just a cleaning I could handle it because I know in my head that I could stop if I panich. He said he could refer me to an endodontist who could "knock" me out, but I’m not sure how much that would cost. Anyhow, tomorrow I will face a similar situation. I have to go for an endoscopy at 2:30 PM and am afraid of the same thing and wan’t sure how much xanax I could take prior to going. I guess I should call my psychiatrist Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen Good luck, Meryl Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie
Carmen -ask your doctor this, ok? Why do you have to split the 225 in 2 doses… Since the Effexor is the time release version, could you take the 225 all at once. This will eliminate the confusion. Now if you cannot find dated pill boxes, you can use a clean egg carton. Label the first egg holder with Mon-am, then the one behind it Mon afternoon. This way you will have a better track of taking your medication. I know it only covers 6 days, but you can tape an extra egg carton holder on the end to make it seven days. I use a dated pill holder for my pills. If I forget then I do not take it but I am a wreck all day long. Let us know how you are doing.love,Julie
Hi Carmen,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Meryl, My prescription was really screwed when I got out of the hospital. The filled prescriptions said 1 tablet 4 times a day but the discharge papers said "2" tablets 4 times a day. It was a Friday and the pdoc was out of town so the nurse just said take one and if you need 2 , just take them and she would check on it Monday. Monday came and she called me and said it was suppose to be 2 tablets. BTW, they are .5mg tablets. Anyhow, when I called one day when I had bad panic in the morning and wasn’t sure if I took the 2 tablets I called. She called me back and said " the doctor says that only one of the doses should be for 2 tablets and the rest should be 1 tablet. I told her "the bottle says 2 tablets 4 times a day. She called back again and said she spoke with the doc and he said not to change anything and that I should make an appointment which I did. When I saw him, he increased the Effexor and said he didn’t want to change anything just yet and to take what I have been. I assume he would rather I took less but I already was taking 2 tabs 3 x’s a day. The whole episode threw me into a panic state since I thought I was doing good only taking them 3 times instead of 4. I don’t know how long it takes for my body to go to a withdrawal since I have been taking them now for about 7 weeks. I have an appt with him in 2 weeks and I "assume" he will address the xanax. He had just said to be careful with them as they are "highly addictive". Imagine how I felt when I realized that the dose I was taking was on the high side and I had thought I was doing good with 3 doses. So in essence, he didn’t really "prescribe" any specific amount or times and sort of just said to be careful. I really don’t know what to do. How often do you take your xanax and when did you start the Effexor?
I can see why you are confused! I take 1 mg of Xanax in the morning, .5 or 1 mg at lunchtime (depends on stress levels) and 1 mg at night. However tomorrow I will double the morning and lunchtime doses as I am going to the dentist. This is all with my psychiatrist’s permission/advice. I have been taking Xanax for 5 or 6 years and have not needed to increase my dosage. I started Efexor XR in September ‘99 (75 mg). This was increased to 150 mg this September. The Efexor is for depression. the Efexor/Xanax combo seems to work for me. Thanks Meryl Carmen
Good luck, Meryl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
That’s right. I have a new prescription that I have not filled yet since I still have some of the 75mg tablets. I don’t know but maybe the new prescription has 150mg tablets but I don’t think so. I would think that when he gets me to 300mg maybe they would be 2 – 150mg tablets. I’m just gonna wait till tomorrow to get on track. I took the 2 xanax at 9:45 PM which was good because I hadn’t been able to go beyond 6 hours between doses, sometimes 4 hours. I’m hoping it’s the increased Effexor beginning to help. Anyhow, I guess time will tell. For now I am just grateful to not be shaking and sweating. I’ll speak with the doc tomorrow and find out what to do if I don’t feel like I need one of the doses of xanax. Thanks to all, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie
CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75.
I am sure she is taking 75mg tablets, two in the AM, and one at 1pm. She can`t remember if she took the 3rd pill at 1Pm today. She was asking if she should take the 3rd tablet not knowing whether she had taken it at 1PM or not. I have done the same thing with Paxil and Synthroid, if I can`t remember, I don`t take Jackie
I take 2 – 75mg tablets when I get up . Total of 150mgs. Then I take 1-75mg tablet at 1:00 in the afternoon. Total of 225mg. They are XR. they are a capsule, sort of pinkish. Thanks, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie
My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen
CARMEN-PLease explain to me what doses are the pills you are taking??? If you are taking 225, you should only be taken 2-one at 150 and one at 75. I take both of mine together in the morning.They are time release form and last 24 hours. Please write back here. Thanks-Julie
Hi Carmen, I also take Efexor XR (150) and Xanax (3 x 1mg). I suggest that it might be better to stay on your prescribed Xanax dose while you are adjusting to the increase in Efexor. I find the combination works well for me. Remember the Xanax only works for a limited time and you are still having some panic symptoms. Take care, Meryl
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen
Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
Thanks Jacke, that’s what I’m gonna do. He just upped it this past week and I think it just might be helping. I’m still having the attacks on and off every day but there seems to be a suttle lessening of the "intensity" of the attacks. Been getting shaky and anxious but the hot flash/rush is not there very much like it was a week ago. I hope I’m right. Anyhow, today was a pretty good day all in all, so I’ll just try to take it a day at a time. BTW, from the beginning of November, I had been taking 1mg of xanax 3 times a day. That was after I got out of the hospital. When the severe attacks started (about 10 days ago) there were times I took it 4 times just to survive. Today I have only taken 2 doses of 1 mg , the last dose was at 2:45 this afternoon and I feel like I might not need another dose but I’m afraid it will effect me later. Not sure what to do and I can’t get the doc tonight, there is a fill in doc for the weekend I believe. Any advice??? Thanks again, Carmen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen Dear Carmen, Whenever in doubt, don`t take the pill. Just get back on track tomorrow. I have done this with my Paxil and thyroid med Take care. Jackie
My p doc just upped my Effexor XR from 150 mg to 225 ( 3 pills , 2 in the morning and 1 of them at 1:00 PM. I’m not sure but I may have not taken the 1 in the afternoon tablet. I just fixed my pill box and got them messed up a bit. Anyhow, my question is, should I take one and possibly be getting an extra 75mg or just wait till tomorrow. I’m also on Neurontin and in the box they look so must alike. I have to take so many pills, I can’t hardly keep up with them even with the pillbox. Thanks anyone, Carmen
Hello, Went to the doctor’s and he has increased my dosage of Paxil from 20 mg to 40 mg. I did not realize there was going to be a yoyo effect from not taking amitriptilene. I am looking forward to a normal night’s sleep (for me 6 or 7 hours) whenever that will occur, I cannot say, but I am trying to optimistic. Many thanks to all for the moral support.
Dear Mike, Please don`t increase your Paxil dose by 20 mgs, that is a huge increase at one time and there is a chance you will experience really uncomfortable side-effects. People with anxiety disorders need to start at a low dose and wean slowly. It is best to increase your dose in 5mg increments. It took me 6 weeks to go from 5 mgs to 20 mgs on Paxil, I can`t imagine a 20mg increase at one time Take care!! Jackie
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Went to the doctor’s and he has increased my dosage of Paxil from 20 mg to 40 mg. I did not realize there was going to be a yoyo effect from not taking amitriptilene. I am looking forward to a normal night’s sleep (for me 6 or 7 hours) whenever that will occur, I cannot say, but I am trying to optimistic. Many thanks to all for the moral support. Dear Mike, Please don`t increase your Paxil dose by 20 mgs, that is a huge increase at one time and there is a chance you will experience really uncomfortable side-effects. People with anxiety disorders need to start at a low dose and wean slowly. It is best to increase your dose in 5mg increments. It took me 6 weeks to go from 5 mgs to 20 mgs on Paxil, I can`t imagine a 20mg increase at one time Take care!! Jackie
Jackie, as usual, is quite right here! Philip
Mike, I agree with the other replies, don’t initially take the full 20 mgs. If nothing else, at least cut it in half. I hope you are able to get some sleep… smiles, elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Went to the doctor’s and he has increased my dosage of Paxil from 20 mg to 40 mg. I did not realize there was going to be a yoyo effect from not taking amitriptilene. I am looking forward to a normal night’s sleep (for me 6 or 7 hours) whenever that will occur, I cannot say, but I am trying to optimistic. Many thanks to all for the moral support. Cheers, Mike Mike, Hope your appt goes well and do let us know how it goes… smiles, elise Many thanks for the info. I am going to the doctor today. For reasons which I cannot relate here I am not able to take benzos. I feel so tightly wound up, that I cannot relax at all. I have become so jumpy, too. I do not dare drink any coffee, for obvious reasons. When the doctor said that it was all right to just stop taking amitriptilene, I had no idea that I would feel this badly. I have always been tightly wound up, even as a child. It was nice while I did not feel so wound up, until recently. All of this anxiety is making it impossible for me to exercise, (I usually ride a bicycle to and from work) I live in Brooklyn, and I normally ride into Manhattan every day. But, the last 5 months of all this anxiety has made it impossible. I used to ride 30 miles a day. I try to take a walk every evening, just a few miles, to help burn off my nervous energy. I will let you know how I make out at the doctors, and my thanks to those who answered my query, and to those who have had good thoughts for me. Cheers, Mike one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? yes if you abruptly stopped-it takes a week to leave your system -taking both paxil and amitriptyline together is bad medicine imo-they compete quite viruntly for specific receptor sites there are other tca ssri combos that are safer-so you now are feeling the full brunt of the paxil and the abrupt ceasation of the ami-get another doc-btw paxil is less effective in treating ibs then the sedating tca’s even though it may be the most sedating ssri and certainly the most anticholinergic it still doesn’t equate to ami your ami dose was low and buttricing it with a benzo may have provided better relief even now a benzo would do wonders LM
Hi All, I have been taking Paxil for about a month and a half, and have a good started taking Paxil, I was taking 75mg of Amitriptilene for a number of months before I started taking Paxil. I was taking Amitriptilene for IBS, but my symptoms had gotten so bad, that the doctor put me on Paxil, and a few weeks later told me it was all right to stop taking the Amitriptilene. There was no tapering down, or anything. Last week, I started waking at night for no reason, and then the symptoms got so bad. I now have a feeling of "impending doom" and I am so fatigued, irritable, etc. Is this normal? Is one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? I would expect some minor discomfort, for a few days, and that is a maybe, but these feelings are horrible. Any ideas? Should I wait a few more days, before caling the doctor? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, Mike
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I have been taking Paxil for about a month and a half, and have a good started taking Paxil, I was taking 75mg of Amitriptilene for a number of months before I started taking Paxil. I was taking Amitriptilene for IBS, but my symptoms had gotten so bad, that the doctor put me on Paxil, and a few weeks later told me it was all right to stop taking the Amitriptilene. There was no tapering down, or anything. Last week, I started waking at night for no reason, and then the symptoms got so bad. I now have a feeling of "impending doom" and I am so fatigued, irritable, etc. Is this normal? Is one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? I would expect some minor discomfort, for a few days, and that is a maybe, but these feelings are horrible. Any ideas? Should I wait a few more days, before caling the doctor? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, Mike
I’d call your doc today, and try to get some relief. Chip
one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene?
yes if you abruptly stopped-it takes a week to leave your system -taking both paxil and amitriptyline together is bad medicine imo-they compete quite viruntly for specific receptor sites there are other tca ssri combos that are safer-so you now are feeling the full brunt of the paxil and the abrupt ceasation of the ami-get another doc-btw paxil is less effective in treating ibs then the sedating tca’s even though it may be the most sedating ssri and certainly the most anticholinergic it still doesn’t equate to ami your ami dose was low and buttricing it with a benzo may have provided better relief even now a benzo would do wonders LM
Many thanks for the info. I am going to the doctor today. For reasons which I cannot relate here I am not able to take benzos. I feel so tightly wound up, that I cannot relax at all. I have become so jumpy, too. I do not dare drink any coffee, for obvious reasons. When the doctor said that it was all right to just stop taking amitriptilene, I had no idea that I would feel this badly. I have always been tightly wound up, even as a child. It was nice while I did not feel so wound up, until recently. All of this anxiety is making it impossible for me to exercise, (I usually ride a bicycle to and from work) I live in Brooklyn, and I normally ride into Manhattan every day. But, the last 5 months of all this anxiety has made it impossible. I used to ride 30 miles a day. I try to take a walk every evening, just a few miles, to help burn off my nervous energy. I will let you know how I make out at the doctors, and my thanks to those who answered my query, and to those who have had good thoughts for me. Cheers, Mike
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? yes if you abruptly stopped-it takes a week to leave your system -taking both paxil and amitriptyline together is bad medicine imo-they compete quite viruntly for specific receptor sites there are other tca ssri combos that are safer-so you now are feeling the full brunt of the paxil and the abrupt ceasation of the ami-get another doc-btw paxil is less effective in treating ibs then the sedating tca’s even though it may be the most sedating ssri and certainly the most anticholinergic it still doesn’t equate to ami your ami dose was low and buttricing it with a benzo may have provided better relief even now a benzo would do wonders LM
Mike, Hope your appt goes well and do let us know how it goes… smiles, elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Many thanks for the info. I am going to the doctor today. For reasons which I cannot relate here I am not able to take benzos. I feel so tightly wound up, that I cannot relax at all. I have become so jumpy, too. I do not dare drink any coffee, for obvious reasons. When the doctor said that it was all right to just stop taking amitriptilene, I had no idea that I would feel this badly. I have always been tightly wound up, even as a child. It was nice while I did not feel so wound up, until recently. All of this anxiety is making it impossible for me to exercise, (I usually ride a bicycle to and from work) I live in Brooklyn, and I normally ride into Manhattan every day. But, the last 5 months of all this anxiety has made it impossible. I used to ride 30 miles a day. I try to take a walk every evening, just a few miles, to help burn off my nervous energy. I will let you know how I make out at the doctors, and my thanks to those who answered my query, and to those who have had good thoughts for me. Cheers, Mike one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? yes if you abruptly stopped-it takes a week to leave your system -taking both paxil and amitriptyline together is bad medicine imo-they compete quite viruntly for specific receptor sites there are other tca ssri combos that are safer-so you now are feeling the full brunt of the paxil and the abrupt ceasation of the ami-get another doc-btw paxil is less effective in treating ibs then the sedating tca’s even though it may be the most sedating ssri and certainly the most anticholinergic it still doesn’t equate to ami your ami dose was low and buttricing it with a benzo may have provided better relief even now a benzo would do wonders LM
Hello, Went to the doctor’s and he has increased my dosage of Paxil from 20 mg to 40 mg. I did not realize there was going to be a yoyo effect from not taking amitriptilene. I am looking forward to a normal night’s sleep (for me 6 or 7 hours) whenever that will occur, I cannot say, but I am trying to optimistic. Many thanks to all for the moral support. Cheers, Mike
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, Hope your appt goes well and do let us know how it goes… smiles, elise Many thanks for the info. I am going to the doctor today. For reasons which I cannot relate here I am not able to take benzos. I feel so tightly wound up, that I cannot relax at all. I have become so jumpy, too. I do not dare drink any coffee, for obvious reasons. When the doctor said that it was all right to just stop taking amitriptilene, I had no idea that I would feel this badly. I have always been tightly wound up, even as a child. It was nice while I did not feel so wound up, until recently. All of this anxiety is making it impossible for me to exercise, (I usually ride a bicycle to and from work) I live in Brooklyn, and I normally ride into Manhattan every day. But, the last 5 months of all this anxiety has made it impossible. I used to ride 30 miles a day. I try to take a walk every evening, just a few miles, to help burn off my nervous energy. I will let you know how I make out at the doctors, and my thanks to those who answered my query, and to those who have had good thoughts for me. Cheers, Mike one supposed to feel like shit, a week and half after not taking Amitriptilene? yes if you abruptly stopped-it takes a week to leave your system -taking both paxil and amitriptyline together is bad medicine imo-they compete quite viruntly for specific receptor sites there are other tca ssri combos that are safer-so you now are feeling the full brunt of the paxil and the abrupt ceasation of the ami-get another doc-btw paxil is less effective in treating ibs then the sedating tca’s even though it may be the most sedating ssri and certainly the most anticholinergic it still doesn’t equate to ami your ami dose was low and buttricing it with a benzo may have provided better relief even now a benzo would do wonders LM
For reasons which I cannot relate here I am not able to take benzos.
Mike, you already do. Diazepam (Valium) and other benzodiazepine type chemicals are in every mouthful of food you eat. Ian
I took Zoloft for 2 days, I had very little sleep and completely horrifying dreams when I did get to sleep. I felt really shaky and nervous as well. I thought I would be nuts in a week if I would have stayed on. It affects people very differently!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance. Hi Julie! I wish I could help you with the Zoloft question. I just wanted to welcome you to a very caring group!!! Hugs, Di
Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
HI Julie, Call your prescribing doctor but I don’t see what it would hurt weaning on at say 12.5 for a few days then upping the dose. Sometimes the side effects are just increased anxiety over taking the med. What do you mean by Zoned out? Hope you are feeling better. Hugs Charla —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance.
It’s best to start at 12.5mg with Z if you have anxiety problems. It’s difficult to know what to say about your side effects, though. It can cause nausea, but I’m not sure what you mean by "zoned out" though it must have been serious to go to the hospital. Make sure you describe in detail what happened to your psychiatrist. If you give the ng better details on the side effects you may get better advice. Best of luck to you, Matt
Thanks!It really helps to know there are people here who can relate to how I feel.Well after only 3 days my dr. took me off Zoloft.My body couldn’t handle the side-effects.I feel really disappointed because I’ve heard others have good results from this.He said we would try something different in about a week.Any ideas on something that may be better for me? Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Thanks!It really helps to know there are people here who can relate to how I feel.Well after only 3 days my dr. took me off Zoloft.My body couldn’t handle the side-effects.I feel really disappointed because I’ve heard others have good results from this.He said we would try something different in about a week.Any ideas on something that may be better for me?
There are lots of possibilities. Another SSRI like Celexa would be a possibility. If one SSRI doesn’t work another might. It may be augmented by a benzo like (preferably IMO) Xanax. But if you try Celexa start at *5 mg* and no more. I am not totally convinced that you wouldn’t be able to benefit from Zoloft if it had been administered in the right low dose but Celexa works as well and supposedly has a lower side effect profile. There are many other possibilites: a TCA like imipramine, desipramine etc. preferably in a combo with a benzo, or newer AD’s like especially Effexor. Etc.etc. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance.
Hi Julie! I wish I could help you with the Zoloft question. I just wanted to welcome you to a very caring group!!! Hugs, Di
You shouldn’t take Zoloft on an empty stomach. Actually you shouldn’t take an pills (e.g. vitamins) on an empty stomach unless the pharmacist tells you to do so.
Actually since taking Z (though Z is somewhat unique in this) on a full stomach increases absorption of the med, if she wanted an even smaller effect than 12.5 mg would give her she could try it on an empty stomach. Matt
In the UK, my doctor said that there is no dosage less than 50mg. And so I had bad stuff hapening to me. Which included nausea, I assume you were not sick tho. I would have carried on but I had to work and so I stopped after two days, the side effects are ment to go away.
In the US we have scored 25mg tablets. You could get a pill cutter which would would take the 50mg, if scored, down to 12.5mg. (But I suppose this is a little after the fact.) Matt
After what I experienced I would be terrified to take 50mgs! I’m hoping to do better on a low dosage. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
In the UK, my doctor said that there is no dosage less than 50mg. And so I had bad stuff hapening to me. Which included nausea, I assume you were not sick tho. I would have carried on but I had to work and so I stopped after two days, the side effects are ment to go away. — If I could start again. A million milles away I would keep myself. I would find a way. It’s a damn mad world. And It will get madder before it ends. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Thanks everyone for the advice.This was really a scary reaction I had.It’s hard to explain what happened.I’m seeing my dr. tomorrow.The hospital gave me benadryl for the reaction,it helped.I’m thinking maybe I started at too high a dose,my body wasn’t ready.I intend to continue my treatment.I will be 40 this month,it seems like I’ve lived most of my life in fear. Maybe with the help of my dr. and people who understand what this is like,I will find a successful treatment.Thanks All! Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance.
Nausea and feeling zoned out are common initial side effects of Zoloft but it seems you had a really bad reaction. It is advisable IMO to start Zoloft at 12,5 mgs, stay there for a week and then raise the dose in increments of 12,5 mgs every week or at whatever pace is comfortable for you. *Starting low & going slow* will minimize the initial side effects. Moreover this could be helped by taking a benzo like Xanax on the side *as needed*, at least during the time you are weaning on Zoloft. You should give Zoloft a 6-8 week trial to be able to properly assess its effect but it’s likely that you will feel better much earlier. What does your doctor say? Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Julie, Sorry I can’t help you with the zoloft question because I don’t take that, but just wanted to say I hope everything goes well for you and you can get back to a more normal life. smiles, elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone.I’m on my 2nd dose of Zoloft,25 mgs,my first day I had extreme nausea.On the 2nd day my husband took me to the hospital.I completely zoned out.It was very scary.I plan on completing my treatment because over-coming this awful way of life is important to me.What I’m asking is,was this normal? Should I just lower my dosage?Thanks in advance. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
I don’t know where you live but do you think that it ia normal, to give somebody shock treatment for anxiety and panic??
NO! It is something like a last resort for depression but there is no evidence AFAIK that it works for PAD. No ECT! I don’t think so, maybe for people who have only depression. but that I am depri is because of the fakt that I have try’d now so many med; and the only one who helpt me was Remeron. But the side effect where so bad that I had to stop.
But we know now that those side effects were from the fillers. You found that out yourself! And soon Remeron will be available in loquid form and your troubles may be over…. they may be over earlier when the Dutonin (Serzone) will start to work…. I am optimistic…. love Diana.
Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it normal that I feel very depri? When I was in Ireland I had not a very good time, I had than for med; selexa and clonazepam. I felt very depri. Now I am back for 14 days and I have other med; Dutonin( serzone) but I feel more and more depri. I know the new med need it’s time. But this is something that is for me well known. I had this feeling before and it’s make’s me afraid, not for myself because I wish that I had the opportunitie to……. But for not my family. I am so tired from al this, every 8 weeks other med; sometimes less than 4 weeks. because I have sometimes very bad side effects, and than I have to stop. this is now going on for 18 mounths and I am fed up with all this. I don’t want no more, I had it. Before I went to Ireland I brought all the pills that I had safe’t to my gp. That was not a very good idea from me, so I start over again. the first I have already, I don’t know anymore for this moment what to do.everything that I try is going wrong. WHY, I feel my self worthless that I can get myself under control. Love Diana. Please no answer on my pc. {{{Diana}}} You are *not* worthless. You just feel that way because you are depressed. It is a symptom of depression. Give the Serzone some more time to work. If no med is able to help your depression, there is shock treatment as a last resort. Love, Chip Before you buy.
Dear Diana, Yes I would say it is very normal to feel depressed and frustrated after 18 months of trying so many different drugs and sometimes feeling worse. This can be a very long road. I am doing the same thing but thankful when the good days DO come, and they will! Sorry you are having such a hard time. I am just sticking with the Klonopin and no more antidepressants. None of them helped me – too many side effects – and life is OK most of the time. I hope the Serzone starts to help you soon. Is it giving you side effects?? Love,
Is it normal that I feel very depri? When I was in Ireland I had not a very good time, I had than for med; selexa and clonazepam. I felt very depri. Now I am back for 14 days and I have other med; Dutonin( serzone) but I feel more and more depri. I know the new med need it’s time. But this is something that is for me well known. I had this feeling before and it’s make’s me afraid, not for myself because I wish that I had the opportunitie to……. But for not my family. I am so tired from al this, every 8 weeks other med; sometimes less than 4 weeks. because I have sometimes very bad side effects, and than I have to stop. this is now going on for 18 mounths and I am fed up with all this. I don’t want no more, I had it. Before I went to Ireland I brought all the pills that I had safe’t to my gp. That was not a very good idea from me, so I start over again. the first I have already, I don’t know anymore for this moment what to do.everything that I try is going wrong. WHY, I feel my self worthless that I can get myself under control. Love Diana. Please no answer on my pc.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it normal that I feel very depri? When I was in Ireland I had not a very good time, I had than for med; selexa and clonazepam. I felt very depri. Now I am back for 14 days and I have other med; Dutonin( serzone) but I feel more and more depri. I know the new med need it’s time. But this is something that is for me well known. I had this feeling before and it’s make’s me afraid, not for myself because I wish that I had the opportunitie to……. But for not my family. I am so tired from al this, every 8 weeks other med; sometimes less than 4 weeks. because I have sometimes very bad side effects, and than I have to stop. this is now going on for 18 mounths and I am fed up with all this. I don’t want no more, I had it. Before I went to Ireland I brought all the pills that I had safe’t to my gp. That was not a very good idea from me, so I start over again. the first I have already, I don’t know anymore for this moment what to do.everything that I try is going wrong. WHY, I feel my self worthless that I can get myself under control. Love Diana. Please no answer on my pc.
{{{Diana}}} You are *not* worthless. You just feel that way because you are depressed. It is a symptom of depression. Give the Serzone some more time to work. If no med is able to help your depression, there is shock treatment as a last resort. Love, Chip Before you buy.
I don’t know where you live but do you think that it ia normal, to give somebody shock treatment for anxiety and panic?? I don’t think so, maybe for people who have only depression. but that I am depri is because of the fakt that I have try’d now so many med; and the only one who helpt me was Remeron. But the side effect where so bad that I had to stop. love Diana. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it normal that I feel very depri? When I was in Ireland I had not a very good time, I had than for med; selexa and clonazepam. I felt very depri. Now I am back for 14 days and I have other med; Dutonin( serzone) but I feel more and more depri. I know the new med need it’s time. But this is something that is for me well known. I had this feeling before and it’s make’s me afraid, not for myself because I wish that I had the opportunitie to……. But for not my family. I am so tired from al this, every 8 weeks other med; sometimes less than 4 weeks. because I have sometimes very bad side effects, and than I have to stop. this is now going on for 18 mounths and I am fed up with all this. I don’t want no more, I had it. Before I went to Ireland I brought all the pills that I had safe’t to my gp. That was not a very good idea from me, so I start over again. the first I have already, I don’t know anymore for this moment what to do.everything that I try is going wrong. WHY, I feel my self worthless that I can get myself under control. Love Diana. Please no answer on my pc. {{{Diana}}} You are *not* worthless. You just feel that way because you are depressed. It is a symptom of depression. Give the Serzone some more time to work. If no med is able to help your depression, there is shock treatment as a last resort. Love, Chip Before you buy.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it normal that I feel very depri? When I was in Ireland I had not a very good time, I had than for med; selexa and clonazepam. I felt very depri. Now I am back for 14 days and I have other med; Dutonin( serzone) but I feel more and more depri. I know the new med need it’s time. But this is something that is for me well known. I had this feeling before and it’s make’s me afraid, not for myself because I wish that I had the opportunitie to……. But for not my family. I am so tired from al this, every 8 weeks other med; sometimes less than 4 weeks. because I have sometimes very bad side effects, and than I have to stop. this is now going on for 18 mounths and I am fed up with all this. I don’t want no more, I had it. Before I went to Ireland I brought all the pills that I had safe’t to my gp. That was not a very good idea from me, so I start over again. the first I have already, I don’t know anymore for this moment what to do.everything that I try is going wrong. WHY, I feel my self worthless that I can get myself under control. Love Diana. Please no answer on my pc.
Hi Diana! I feel so bad for you! You are depressed and I’ve been depressed lately. Just in the last day or two I’ve been feeling a little better. The doc raised the Desipramine over the weekend and it made me more depressed. I’m not taking the extra anymore and I feel better. Please keep calling your doctor to see what else he can do and hang in there. It has to get better for you and I believe it will! {{{{{{{Diana}}}}}}} Diane
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Hi Nick, I had a pretty social weekend too. (for me) What a world of difference it makes when you’re on the right meds : ) Each day, I feel a little better. Pam
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What pink pills? Where can I get some? Nicholas S.-Roy <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote in message news:376EBB14.77C7EA34@primetimevisions.com… thanks. although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills. sCOOTer wrote: In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com, "Nicholas S.-Roy" <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote: I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun. Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the dust." Pete
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The physicians have given me zoloft + xanax then prozac. Xanax was horrible…I don’t know how it helps anyone. The zoloft and prozac were similar in effect…made me feel more content and made me much easier to get along with. I didn’t want to be content or congenial, though. I am panting to be more comfortable in college…that’s all. The only relationships that I want are ones in which I am idolized as the enigma that I will always be, whether real or imagined. Doesn’t it make any of you feel empty to act like everyone else? I believe that if I weren’t shy, then I would be suicidal. The biggest obstacle is the feeling that society is attempting to change me, and this becomes especially evident in college. Their attempts wouldn’t be distressing if I wasn’t so sensitive to disapprobation…I want to be liked…not actually liked, too spiritless, but adored, envied, venerated, aggrandized…I don’t want to change. The kind of counseling that I am getting isn’t helping, because I struggle with imagining that anyone really understands me…not because I’m too exceptional to be understood…because I have a distorted way of expressing myself. No offense, but it seems to me that even doctors of the mind are easily misled…One must diffuse what I am saying to get to what is genuinely there. I suppose I am expecting them to read my mind…after all the path from there to here is devious, and I’m not figuring it out. I am mentioning all of this, because most of you talk about a manner of progress that is completely dissimilar to what I imagine for myself. Anyway, we’re all just people experiencing the same symptoms, spawned from varying origins, induced by whatever, with different motivations, resulting in this…however you want to think of it. Also, I felt like being opinionated and declaring that I hate mind playing drugs….the right ones, the wrong ones, the ones that work, the ones that don’t…any of them. The ones that play in the pain region of your brain (no one expects me to know the names of all of these chemicals, regions, nerve transmitters, right? is it with the prostaglandins…I don’t know.) and other similar places don’t offend me that much….it’s just those ones that play in your serotonin governors, emotional signals, GABAs, monoamine oxidase, whatever. I’m not denying these drugs’ rights to excitement…They’re just uninvited right now. Gotta be elaborate about it, y’know.
Leiliane
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> > news:376EBB14.77C7EA34@primetimevisions.com… > > > thanks. > > > although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills. > > > sCOOTer wrote: > > > > In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com>, "Nicholas S.-Roy"
<n….@primetimevisions.com wrote: I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost
10.
Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life.
The
Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the
other
people having fun. Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the
dust."
Pete
yup, I’ve met 3 girls since I’m on it, hehe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -JimiJames wrote:
That good hey.. — ========= Russ. "Is this heaven?" ========= Nicholas S.-Roy <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote in message news:376F8854.8275E8F8@primetimevisions.com… Paxil JimiJames wrote: What pink pills? Where can I get some? Nicholas S.-Roy <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote in message news:376EBB14.77C7EA34@primetimevisions.com… thanks. although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills. sCOOTer wrote: In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com, "Nicholas S.-Roy" <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote: I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun. Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the dust." Pete
OK, I’ve heard enough I’m getting some of that stuff — ========= Russ. "Is this heaven?" ========= Nicholas S.-Roy <n….@primetimevisions.com
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> > > > news:376EBB14.77C7EA34@primetimevisions.com… > > > > > thanks. > > > > > although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills. > > > > > sCOOTer wrote: > > > > > > In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com>, "Nicholas > > S.-Roy" > > > > > > <n….@primetimevisions.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost
10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my
life.
The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at
the
other people having fun. Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the dust." Pete
I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun.
I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun.
That’s tight. I’m happy for you. Hope it lasts. ~ "No culture has a monopoly on beauty or value… Just as no religion has a monopoly on truth." -Voltaire
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Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the dust." Pete
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In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com, "Nicholas S.-Roy" <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote: I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun. Nicholas: I hope we can say about you, as an SPic, "another one bites the dust." Pete
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thanks. although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills.
That’s good enough.
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Nicholas S.-Roy <n….@primetimevisions.com wrote in message news:376EBB14.77C7EA34@primetimevisions.com… thanks. although it’s only thanks to the little pink pills. That’s good enough.
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In article <376E48A7.D623C…@primetimevisions.com, "Nicholas S.-Roy" <n….@primetimevisions.com writes: I went to a cottage this weekend, and only knew 2 people on almost 10. Anyways it was great, and I’ve never been this social in my life. The Paxil seems to be doing more everyday. I talked to everyone, wasn’t shy, helped around, etc… It just felt really great not to be the outsider looking at the other people having fun. Hi Nick, I had a pretty social weekend too. (for me) What a world of difference it makes when you’re on the right meds : ) Each day, I feel a little better. Pam
Hi this is Ray from Mississippi I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions….
Edward from Florida says …. A real good place to start is Dr Ivan Goldberg’s Depression Central: http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html Edward Reid
Hi Ray I saw your post and wanted to let you know you are reaching me hey it does not matter how old you are to get your life in order hope that you get yourself together and do what is right for you no matter what anyone else thinks take care and good luck
PLEASE don’t give up on all mood stabilizers! If your diagnosis is correct, an anti-depressant alone could trigger a manic episode. I too was left dazed and confused by lithium and others. My work as an engineer requires alot of mental concentration and use of math and sciences…stuff I had taken for granted had become increasingly difficult, even the simplest tasks! I now take Lamictal (300mg) and Effexor(75mg) with Klonepin(.5mg) for sleep. Welbutrin made me near-anorexic (the very smell of food made me gag) and the closest to suicidal that I have ever been! I literally had to beg my pdoc to switch me back to Effexor…he kept increasing Welbutrin despite my insistance that it was not working for me…because, he said, it is a "very good" drug. Well, there are no good drugs/ bad drugs, just ones that work better or worse for an individual! Too often pdocs loose site of the patient sitting before them. Good luck with whatever you decide, but I’d consider Lamictal if you haven’t already tried it. Desiree’
Welcome…..feel free to talk away. CJ<telescope down
Amy, Thanks! Wonder if that means I’m addicted to the ole B/F . . . I’m going to look up that book. (o: — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain. <snip
Hey there! Today I decided I wasn’t going to be a victim anymore and feel bad anymore from meds so I could keep a job and have no excuses for excessive absences. I think I have been misdiagnosed as BPII. I think I suffer from chronic depression and anxiety just like everyone else in my immediate and extended family. Right now I am depressed, but anyone would be after losing their job AGAIN and this time out of the blue after buying a 2 unit house. That kind of depression there are no pills for you just get through it and move on. I have stopped taking my tegretol, but keeping my klonopin and periactin so I can sleep at night for now. Seeing my pdoc tomorrow, telling her about my decision and asking for her support to manage my anxiety and sleeping. I also want her to think about what anit-depressant I may need to use in the future. Wellbutrin sounds good especially since I have had such a lack of energy and brain power since I’ve been on mood stabilizers. I hate them because they slowed my brain down and I couldn’t think or do complex tasks or remember anything. I couldn’t do math or find words or spell. I used to be so with it. I hope now I can get better, think better, work better, love better and live better. I am going to enjoy life!!!!!! I am going to feel happy for the first time in 8 years. Wish me luck! Lisa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Hi Ray, welcome,there’s some good advice here. I’m 51 still don’t have my shit together. Take Care Caddy
Welcome Ray from mississippi I was off of work for 8 weeks late last year, I dont know what your suspended means? Is it a leave of absence? I need more info to answer this better. Welcome again you will find this group helpful maybe you just posted before on a bad day ..always, Treacha ..as the twig bends…so the tree grows…
You go girl. Lisa, mom of FF. "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption
Ray Wilson wrote : Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly
I see ya, loud and clear, welcome. I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little.
YOu are in the right place. < as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little???
Well, I’ll leave all that to the others who are knowledgeable. < God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont
Well, you know what my mama used to tell me? " Honey, it’s not a sin to get lice, it’s a sin to keep it." You are headed in the right direction. <…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray
That’s my story, and I’m stickin’ to it. Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption snipped all underneath. 
Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Hello Ray, welcome to the group. (so obviously I see your post ) A lot of people here know a great deal about your rights and about meds, but I think you’ll have to be a bit more specific. What kind of pills are you taking? Sounds like you were recently diagnosed. This really is the right place to come for information and for support. Sometimes it just takes a while-there’s SO many posts…… Hang in there and take care, Amy Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly
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Yes, you do have job rights. As a first step, check (or better yet, have a friend at work check if you can) what the standard company policy is for sick leave for any illness. For example, you may have 3 months to get back to your existing job, 6 months to get back to an "equivalent" job. It doesn’t matter what the illness is, so your friend doesn’t have to specify he/she is asking on your behalf or about your illness. If your company doesn’t have a written policy (but I bet they do), then you may have to do some further searching for an answer. But, start with the simple question first. Also, you said "suspended," but I am assuming extended sick leave. Is that what you mean? Hope this helps – I’ve been through this, too, as have a lot of people in this group. Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi …. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ?
Ray, 1) Be sure to tell your doctor you think they are setting you up at work. 2) Be sure to read the NAMI (National Alliance for the Mentally Ill) homepage (www.NAMI.org ) Read the part about the Americans with Disabilities Act and "reasonable accomodations", in case this applies to your situation. Good luck and welcome to the newsgroup. — walleye – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Got your post. Welcome. This is a great group. Kathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi this is Ray from Mississippi well dont think i got a responce from my last post and I would like verry much to join this newsgroup…. I just dont know if you’all see what Im posting today is the 27th at 5:00 pm exactly I too just found out about depression and really ned to vent a little. as well as I have some questions…. My job suspended me from work… I’m in my 3rd week.. I cant help but think this is a setp takeing by them to get rid of me ??? Do I have any rights ??? what about the pills I’m on.. anyone have enough experance to tell me about them a little??? God I feel so lost and alone almost too embarrased to tell anyone.. I havent even year I guess I feel I should have my shit togeather by now and dont…. I reall would like to hear from anyone just seeing this note so that i know its going out…. well Im not a big talker just dont want to spill my guts and find out latter that nobody heard me (again). this is really new to me…. thanks in advance - Ray Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Kathy, I hope it works out for you. Lisa, mom of FF. — "Fear can hold you prisoner, hope can set you free." The Shawshank Redemption – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I went to my new pdoc appt. yesterday. She seems pretty cool. Uses humor alot. I like that. Also a little cautious. She really didn’t want to change anything until she received records from my previous pdoc and my primary care provider. She did mention about putting me on Wellbutrin. She said Wellbutrin provides "energy" in her patients and lifts that depression right up". Well something like that. Right now since the Zoloft isn’t working she is weening me off of it. I see her in another two weeks. Well that’s it for now. Wish I had more to write to all of you. Love to you all! Kathy
There’s a book called "the Craving Brain" (I think, I have a Poor Memory Brain) that explores different activities and how they affect chemicals in the brain. Most of it is about addictions, but there were parts on how being with people helps (and why-chemically) and how even altruistic behavior can have an effect on ….o heck, I WAS doing good there. It is either dopamine or seratonin. But both are "feel good" ones, right? Take care, Amy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kathy, Sounds encouraging! I started on Wellbutrin about a week ago (oops, that reminds me: I forgot to take my pill this am . . . brb . . . ah, that’s better) at a dose of 2×100mg/day and I’m already feeling somewhat better. My understanding is that it increases Dopamine levels in the brain. Which leads me to a question for our resident experts: I felt much less depressed this past weekend when I was spending time with my boyfriend. I find spending time with him enjoyable. Does enjoyment also increase dopamine levels? I have been meaning to look this up on the net, but haven’t managed to do so yet. Thanks for your assistance in the meantime. — Kath From here on my branch I can choose to plunge or soar. I think I shall sit a while longer.
get a Rx for Xanax ( generic name = alprazolam ) when this happens, take 2 mg right away give it 20 minutes to kick in I’m on 40 mg Paxil / day and it took a while to get going, but I would say 10 weeks is long enough. Maybe you would do better on a different SSRI. There are a lot of them. Ask your doctor about trying a different one. — Larry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi! This is my first post so please be gentle! I’ve been on Seroxat(Paxil) (30mg/day) for about 10 weeks for panic attacks / depression… it seems to help (most of the time)… however there are still occasions where I lose control in a big way…. Over the last week, I’ve been experiencing a couple of times, what I can only describe as "electric shocks"… similar to a just before a panic attack but rather than lasting a second or two it lasts for hours… with "shocks" every 10-15 seconds. Last night was agony… I had an appointment … I couldn’t remember whether it was 6:15pm or 6:30pm… so walking there I stopped outside a newagents (to get a paper to read if I had to wait)… it was closed. I stopped… turned round waked away… stopped… walked back… stopped… I felt an electric bolt on the inside of my left arm…. my heart starts to beat… I started to panic… I feel as if I’m about to have a panic attack… but it never quite gets there… the shock starts repeating regularly… by the time I got to my appointment… I was a reck… I walked in the room and broke down… couldn’t talk at all… after a few minutes I decided that I really couldn’t go through with it and I rush out. Finally got home… somewhere safe… but the shocks were still going … I wanted to phone someone… to calm me down and reassure me… but I really don’t want to impose… 5 hours later I make the call… they are out…I leave a message hoping they might phone me back… by 3am the shock are still going…. and I finally fall asleep of exhuastion… I’ve never had anything like this before… has anyone else? Any ideas what it is or how to cope with it? I really don’t want to go through this again. Mark
Hi! This is my first post so please be gentle! I’ve been on Seroxat(Paxil) (30mg/day) for about 10 weeks for panic attacks / depression… it seems to help (most of the time)… however there are still occasions where I lose control in a big way…. Over the last week, I’ve been experiencing a couple of times, what I can only describe as "electric shocks"… similar to a just before a panic attack but rather than lasting a second or two it lasts for hours… with "shocks" every 10-15 seconds. Last night was agony… I had an appointment … I couldn’t remember whether it was 6:15pm or 6:30pm… so walking there I stopped outside a newagents (to get a paper to read if I had to wait)… it was closed. I stopped… turned round waked away… stopped… walked back… stopped… I felt an electric bolt on the inside of my left arm…. my heart starts to beat… I started to panic… I feel as if I’m about to have a panic attack… but it never quite gets there… the shock starts repeating regularly… by the time I got to my appointment… I was a reck… I walked in the room and broke down… couldn’t talk at all… after a few minutes I decided that I really couldn’t go through with it and I rush out. Finally got home… somewhere safe… but the shocks were still going … I wanted to phone someone… to calm me down and reassure me… but I really don’t want to impose… 5 hours later I make the call… they are out…I leave a message hoping they might phone me back… by 3am the shock are still going…. and I finally fall asleep of exhuastion… I’ve never had anything like this before… has anyone else? Any ideas what it is or how to cope with it? I really don’t want to go through this again. Mark
what youre describing is EXACTLY what i experienced during effexor withdrawal. i would be worried about some sort of med reaction, and i would CALL MY SHRINK IMMEDIATELY, and tell him word for word what you posted here about symptoms, maybe even read it to him over the phone – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Over the last week, I’ve been experiencing a couple of times, what I can only describe as "electric shocks"… similar to a just before a panic attack but rather than lasting a second or two it lasts for hours… with "shocks" every 10-15 seconds. Last night was agony… I had an appointment … I couldn’t remember whether it was 6:15pm or 6:30pm… so walking there I stopped outside a newagents (to get a paper to read if I had to wait)… it was closed. I stopped… turned round waked away… stopped… walked back… stopped… I felt an electric bolt on the inside of my left arm…. my heart starts to beat… I started to panic… I feel as if I’m about to have a panic attack… but it never quite gets there… the shock starts repeating regularly… by the time I got to my appointment… I was a reck… I walked in the room and broke down… couldn’t talk at all… after a few minutes I decided that I really couldn’t go through with it and I rush out. Finally got home… somewhere safe… but the shocks were still going … I wanted to phone someone… to calm me down and reassure me… but I really don’t want to impose… 5 hours later I make the call… they are out…I leave a message hoping they might phone me back… by 3am the shock are still going…. and I finally fall asleep of exhuastion… I’ve never had anything like this before… has anyone else? Any ideas what it is or how to cope with it? I really don’t want to go through this again. Mark
I have had this also, still do. I never did figure out whether is was a symptom of my anxiety or the cause of it. Althought I had the anxiety first. It kept me from sleeping a lot of nights and I still have it at times. I had EEGs and MRI’s and they found nothing. All I can say is that it’s just another sucky thing that your anxiety can do to you and keep you from sleeping and making you miserable. Believe me, I feel for you. LonelyGirl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi! This is my first post so please be gentle! I’ve been on Seroxat(Paxil) (30mg/day) for about 10 weeks for panic attacks / depression… it seems to help (most of the time)… however there are still occasions where I lose control in a big way…. Over the last week, I’ve been experiencing a couple of times, what I can only describe as "electric shocks"… similar to a just before a panic attack but rather than lasting a second or two it lasts for hours… with "shocks" every 10-15 seconds. Last night was agony… I had an appointment … I couldn’t remember whether it was 6:15pm or 6:30pm… so walking there I stopped outside a newagents (to get a paper to read if I had to wait)… it was closed. I stopped… turned round waked away… stopped… walked back… stopped… I felt an electric bolt on the inside of my left arm…. my heart starts to beat… I started to panic… I feel as if I’m about to have a panic attack… but it never quite gets there… the shock starts repeating regularly… by the time I got to my appointment… I was a reck… I walked in the room and broke down… couldn’t talk at all… after a few minutes I decided that I really couldn’t go through with it and I rush out. Finally got home… somewhere safe… but the shocks were still going … I wanted to phone someone… to calm me down and reassure me… but I really don’t want to impose… 5 hours later I make the call… they are out…I leave a message hoping they might phone me back… by 3am the shock are still going…. and I finally fall asleep of exhuastion… I’ve never had anything like this before… has anyone else? Any ideas what it is or how to cope with it? I really don’t want to go through this again. Mark
I’ve been on Seroxat(Paxil) (30mg/day) for about 10 weeks for panic attacks / depression… it seems to help (most of the time)… however there are still occasions where I lose control in a big way…. Over the last week, I’ve been experiencing a couple of times, what I can only describe as "electric shocks"… similar to a just before a panic attack but rather than lasting a second or two it lasts for hours… with "shocks" every 10-15 seconds.
Funny this sounds exactly like Paxil withdrawal symptoms which I experienced firsthand. Are you skipping doses? Are you taking it all in one dose (if so perhaps you should try to split it into 2)? Anyway you should definitely talk to your doctor about it. In the past doctors weren’t aware of the problems of Paxil, but hopefully all are informed now. Good luck.
Thanks for the advice… I’ve made an appointment with my doctor… have to see what he says. The only common factor I can think of is both times I’ve had a couple of glasses of wine… although the electric shocks don’t happen every time… I’ve decided to give up the alcohol… it’s not going to be easy tho =o) Mark
Hello, I wanted to introduce myself and hopefully find someone who can understand me….I’m a 28 yr. old female, recently diagnosed with dysthymia later changed to cyclothymia….just started taking Zoloft (25mg.) two days ago. I’M SCARED sh*tless….hehe nonono that’s not right because one of the side effects is diarreaha but that may be more than you wanted to know, huh? (G) Anyway, I have a question…have any of you had "Profile" tests? I was diagnosed "passive-aggressive" (accckk … not a very attractive title for a person is it?) ONe of the things my therp said I needed to work on was being more assertive…yeah right…And just how the heck do you do that when you don’t how to start with? Anyway (gosh there I go bouncing form subject to subject… obviously the Zoloft isn’t working yet….) Another question…The Zoloft seems to be making me VERY irritable…is this common? I don’t see my therp till Thursday and thought maybe some of you would know….AND BTW don’t even get me started on my therp….GAG….she drives me nuts sometimes….but then at other times she’s ok…but i swear she doesn’t really do anything…our last few sessions have just degenrated into "BITCHFESTS"…I bitch she listens and nods with a bored smile…..SIGH…I know, I know,…I should just stop bitching, huh? hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:) Daphne
Hmm….I think therapists are retarded sometimes. I saw this one person….(though not professionally or anything..she was in training) and all she did was listen and pretend to understand. I felt totally stupid. After meeting with her 10 times….it accomplished nothing…nothing at all. Realized nothing bout self. Hmm…I get this feeling that I’m doind something wrong…oh wells. Ignore it Marina You can be my friend Daphne…welcome to asd…or whatever. (hmm…just welcome..I believe my thoughts are drifting.) Marina "You’ll see…it takes more strength to cry, admit defeat" -Madonna "You’ll See"
Hello, I wanted to introduce myself and hopefully find someone who can understand me…
Hi Daphne, welcome to ASD. .I’m a 28 yr. old female, recently diagnosed with dysthymia later changed to cyclothymia….just started taking Zoloft (25mg.) two days ago. I’M SCARED sh*tless….hehe nonono that’s not right because one of the side effects is diarreaha but that may be more than you wanted to know, huh? (G)
Um.. yea- like, that would be more than I wanted to know, if I didn’t already know a whole lot more than I want to know about Zoloft side effects from taking it. Anyway, I have a question…have any of you had "Profile" tests? I was diagnosed "passive-aggressive" (accckk … not a very attractive title for a person is it?) ONe of the things my therp said I needed to work on was being more assertive…yeah right…And just how the heck do you do that when you don’t how to start with?
Ug.. I hate that term- ‘passive-aggressive’. And that’s all I have to say about that… Anyway (gosh there I go bouncing form subject to subject… obviously the Zoloft isn’t working yet….) Another question…The Zoloft seems to be making me VERY irritable…is this common? I don’t see my therp till Thursday and thought maybe some of you would know….
If you just started Zoloft two days, nothing will be happening yet. Zoloft usually takes up to six weeks to really kick in. AND BTW don’t even get me started on my therp….GAG….she drives me nuts sometimes….but then at other times she’s ok…but i swear she doesn’t really do anything…our last few sessions have just degenrated into "BITCHFESTS"…I bitch she listens and nods with a bored smile…..SIGH…I know, I know,…I should just stop bitching, huh?
Hmm.. if you don’t like your therp, I recommend changing before you get to invested in her. Bad therapists usually don’t help people all that much. Spend the time to find the good one. As for bitching, what the hell is a therapy session for anyway? The only reason not to bitch is if what your bitching about really isn’t important to you, cause then its a waste of money… hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:) Daphne
No problem on the ranting… look at some other posts for just how long any of us can’t rant about ourselves…:) Well, hmm.. that’s my attempt at a reply. Hope to hear more from you in the future. Hoping to make a new friend too, Pink
Hi Daphne! Welcome to asd!
– Hello, I wanted to introduce myself and hopefully find someone who can understand me….I’m a 28 yr. old female, recently diagnosed with dysthymia later changed to cyclothymia….just started taking Zoloft (25mg.) two days ago.
I am 30 yrs old. Starting taking Aropax two months ago. I believe I have cyclothymia too but hasn’t been diagnosed. When I’m high I run around singing, get sexually forward…… I’M SCARED sh*tless….hehe nonono that’s not right because one of the side effects is diarreaha but that may be more than you wanted to know, huh? (G)
Lovely isn’t it! Anyway, I have a question…have any of you had "Profile" tests? I was diagnosed "passive-aggressive" (accckk … not a very attractive title for a person is it?) ONe of the things my therp said I needed to work on was being more assertive…yeah right…And just how the heck do you do that when you don’t how to start with?
Im passive/ aggressive too. I let things build up in side until I burst out. Watch out who ever triggers me off! You need to find an adult education place that runs Assertion courses. They have helped me. Anyway (gosh there I go bouncing form subject to subject… obviously the Zoloft isn’t working yet….)
Could take up to a month to get properly stable. The chemical has to stable in your blood. Another question…The Zoloft seems to be making me VERY irritable…is this common? I don’t see my therp till Thursday and thought maybe some of you would know….AND BTW don’t even get me started on my therp….GAG….she drives me nuts sometimes….but then at other times she’s ok…but i swear she doesn’t really do anything…our last few sessions have just degenrated into "BITCHFESTS"…I bitch she listens and nods with a bored smile…..SIGH…I know, I know,…I should just stop bitching, huh? hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:)
Someesle should be able to help you with your irritabilty. The therp is probably waiting for the Zooloft to kick so she can see what your *real* issues are as the symptoms level out. Look forward to talking to you more. Welcome to mail me directly. Good luck You are in the right place!!!! Julie I love a sunburnt country A land of sweeping plains Of rugged mountain ranges Of droughts and flooding rains I love her far horizons I love her jewel seas Her beauty and her terror The wide brown land for me Dorothy McKellar
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I wanted to introduce myself and hopefully find someone who can understand me… Hi Daphne, welcome to ASD. .I’m a 28 yr. old female, recently diagnosed with dysthymia later changed to cyclothymia….just started taking Zoloft (25mg.) two days ago. I’M SCARED sh*tless….hehe nonono that’s not right because one of the side effects is diarreaha but that may be more than you wanted to know, huh? (G) Um.. yea- like, that would be more than I wanted to know, if I didn’t already know a whole lot more than I want to know about Zoloft side effects from taking it.
Sorry ’bout that…when I get nervous or feel insecure, I make really dumb jokes…sometimes even tasteless ones….:op~ Anyway, I have a question…have any of you had "Profile" tests? I was diagnosed "passive-aggressive" (accckk … not a very attractive title for a person is it?) ONe of the things my therp said I needed to work on was being more assertive…yeah right…And just how the heck do you do that when you don’t how to start with? Ug.. I hate that term- ‘passive-aggressive’. And that’s all I have to say about that…
Heh, I hate it too…it simplifies things WAAAAY too much… Anyway (gosh there I go bouncing form subject to subject… obviously the Zoloft isn’t working yet….) Another question…The Zoloft seems to be making me VERY irritable…is this common? I don’t see my therp till Thursday and thought maybe some of you would know…. If you just started Zoloft two days, nothing will be happening yet. Zoloft usually takes up to six weeks to really kick in
YIPES! you mean I’m just being a b*tch cause I am a b*tch? hehehe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – AND BTW don’t even get me started on my therp….GAG….she drives me nuts sometimes….but then at other times she’s ok…but i swear she doesn’t really do anything…our last few sessions have just degenrated into "BITCHFESTS"…I bitch she listens and nods with a bored smile…..SIGH…I know, I know,…I should just stop bitching, huh? Hmm.. if you don’t like your therp, I recommend changing before you get to invested in her. Bad therapists usually don’t help people all that much. Spend the time to find the good one. As for bitching, what the hell is a therapy session for anyway? The only reason not to bitch is if what your bitching about really isn’t important to you, cause then its a waste of money… hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:) Daphne No problem on the ranting… look at some other posts for just how long any of us can’t rant about ourselves…:) Well, hmm.. that’s my attempt at a reply. Hope to hear more from you in the future. Hoping to make a new friend too, Pink
Thanks Pink…you made me feel welcome…:) Daphne
[posted and emailed rather late] Another question…The Zoloft seems to be making me VERY irritable…is this common?
just make sure that it’s irratability, and not mania that you’re getting, ok? …our last few sessions have just degenrated into "BITCHFESTS"…I bitch she listens and nods with a bored smile…..SIGH…I know, I know,…I should just stop bitching, huh?
no way – bitching is one of the things therapy is for! i did it for years, and it actually helped!!! (as long as the therapist knows how to ask the questions to get your bitching constructive) hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:) Daphne
welcome to asd, daphne… Dark Prism – My personality refracts darkly through the serotonigenic spectrum. Mania-Depression-OCD-Anxiety – how I love a fully-rounded life!!!! Thomas A. Ott — ottthoma (at) pipeline.com – [3 t's in ottthoma!!!] www.geocities.com/~ottthoma — main site www.geocities.com/~ottthoma/depression/index.html—– depression site www.geocities.com/~ottthoma/depression/sjw.html —— st. john’s wort stuff
Hmm….I think therapists are retarded sometimes. I saw this one person….(though not professionally or anything..she was in training) and all she did was listen and pretend to understand. I felt totally stupid. After meeting with her 10 times….it accomplished nothing…nothing at all. Realized nothing bout self. Hmm…I get this feeling that I’m doind something wrong…oh wells. Ignore it Marina You can be my friend Daphne…welcome to asd…or whatever. (hmm…just welcome..I believe my thoughts are drifting.)
Well, I missed the original post… but Marina, I have to say that how you felt about therapy was how I felt until a few years ago when I finally found a therapist who "clicked" with me. Or maybe I was just ready to be more aggressive, who knows? but in any case, I needed (still do) a more active therapy than just talk (after all, if I’m just going to sit there and talk about myself, I may as well write in my journal or talk to my friends, esp. now that I’ve found ASD!) The therapist I clicked with (unfortunately no longer covered by my insurance once they switched HMO’s with me) was more of a cognitive behavioralist and would give me little exercises to do, and even though sometimes they felt stupid, they really did help. Plus it gave me a feeling that I was *doing* something rather than just talking. So if you feel/felt that therapy wasn’t helping you, I’d suggest trying a different therapist. The right one can really make a difference… Sorry if this is off the topic, as I said, I missed the original post. [posted & emailed] leslie ****** "I must not think bad thoughts…" — X
Hello,
Hello Daphne. It’s nice to meet you. I wanted to introduce myself and hopefully find someone who can understand me….I’m a 28 yr. old female, recently diagnosed with dysthymia later changed to cyclothymia….just started taking Zoloft (25mg.) two days ago. I’M SCARED sh*tless….hehe nonono that’s not right because one of the side effects is diarreaha but that may be more than you wanted to know, huh? (G)
:+) you must know that OF COURSE we want to know that… you have been reading the stuff here, haven’t you? We even had a scatological thread here once… hehehe oh well…sorry to rant so long…. I hope I can make a few friends here….:)
you have already. — Wolfbitch / Laz Spashett Reindeer Liberation Front www.gwenhwys.demon.co.uk/rlf/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -:@ Free the Reindeer! Santa must die!