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Our local Safeway carries nearly all of its own brand ("Safeway Select") sodas as both regular and diet. The only one they don’t seem to copy is Fresca – which of course is my favourite. Generally speaking the generic brands are as good as brand names. In fact one Canadian company (Cott) has built a large market share by producing generic sodas that taste better than the "real thing". In some places these are sold under the "President’s Choice" lable. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have found myself clinging to diet sodas on my diet.  its the way I treat myself and I can drink tons of the stuff.  what I have found though is its expensive like 1.49 per 2 liter at the local store for diet sodas so I want to buy some in bulk but don’t know where to look. I don’t care about brand names and noticed many companies have generic alternatives to the popular sodas like cola, root beer, creme soda, dr. pepper, mt. dew, etc.  BUT what I haven’t seen is much diet alternatives to these except cola and lemon lime. So I was just wondering for those that care about cost and drink diet soda where do you shop to get the best deals for 2 liter bottles of the stuff?  I know safeway, sunny select, walmart and a few other big stores carry generic brands but am I wrong in thinking that besides the name brand diet sodas, generic vendors don’t cater to our market so Im really stuck buying the name brand stuff?

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I have found myself clinging to diet sodas on my diet.  its the way I treat myself and I can drink tons of the stuff.  what I have found though is its expensive like 1.49 per 2 liter at the local store for diet sodas so I want to buy some in bulk but don’t know where to look. I don’t care about brand names and noticed many companies have generic alternatives to the popular sodas like cola, root beer, creme soda, dr. pepper, mt. dew, etc.  BUT what I haven’t seen is much diet alternatives to these except cola and lemon lime. So I was just wondering for those that care about cost and drink diet soda where do you shop to get the best deals for 2 liter bottles of the stuff?  I know safeway, sunny select, walmart and a few other big stores carry generic brands but am I wrong in thinking that besides the name brand diet sodas, generic vendors don’t cater to our market so Im really stuck buying the name brand stuff?

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I’ve seen almost every variety of cheap generic pop in most of the stores where I shop… in diet, even in caffeine free diet at times.  Ask at the store if you don’t see it on the shelf. I personally spend the extra $$ and buy only Diet Coke… all generic that I have found are basically Pepsi products and I don’t really like the taste of Diet Pepsi (only in a pinch).  But that’s me… Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have found myself clinging to diet sodas on my diet.  its the way I treat myself and I can drink tons of the stuff.  what I have found though is its expensive like 1.49 per 2 liter at the local store for diet sodas so I want to buy some in bulk but don’t know where to look. I don’t care about brand names and noticed many companies have generic alternatives to the popular sodas like cola, root beer, creme soda, dr. pepper, mt. dew, etc.  BUT what I haven’t seen is much diet alternatives to these except cola and lemon lime. So I was just wondering for those that care about cost and drink diet soda where do you shop to get the best deals for 2 liter bottles of the stuff?  I know safeway, sunny select, walmart and a few other big stores carry generic brands but am I wrong in thinking that besides the name brand diet sodas, generic vendors don’t cater to our market so Im really stuck buying the name brand stuff?

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yes, but if the poster is right that the buildup is basically caused by static electricity, then I’ll just wash the Aerochamber every day with some dishwashing liquid.  Why take chances.  It’s not that big an effort to keep it clean.  I was just curious.

Considering the quality of many of its posts, I would strongly suggest you look for a more reliable reference. Ted

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Inhaled steroids can result in localized infections with Candida albicans in the mouth and pharynx.  Have it cultured and treated, then when you use your steriod inhaler rinse your mouth out after each use.  Be sure to clean the canister daily.   Nicole – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed.  Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours.  Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed.  Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours.  Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX

Being the "Queen Of Thrush", it sounds like that is what you have,of course the usual disclaimer (I am not a doctor….) Nystatin swish and swallow is a good start. If you still have it after that ask for Diflucan. There is also a new swish and swallow of AmphotericinB but that is when you have exhausted all other things. I’m sure that I do not have to say, rinse your mouth,blah,blah blah. Some people are just prone to thrush and you learn to deal with it. It’s pretty nasty but, brathing is better, Peace, Tish

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I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all.  I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now.  I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges.  Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!

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I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all.  I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now.  I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges.  Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!

My wife who has asthma was told that she has to gargle right after using her inhalers to prevent yeast infection in her throat. Hope this helps. Hope you fell better soon.

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I don’t know what I have but I can’t taste anything at all.  I did have a very sore throat and the doctor lowered my dose of Azmacort and took away the atrovent and put ventolin on prn basis and I haven’t used that for about five days now.  I still can’t taste anything. The pharmacist suggeste zinc tablets and I have taken those for almost a week plus used the zinc lozenges.  Nothing is working. Help!!!!!!!

Hi Judy: I’m new to the group but I think I have the answer.  Nystatin oral suspension.  I’ve used it for years. Let me know if it works for you. Puffing away Alan

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  Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? Michelle in TX

Yes yes yes!!! this is almost identical to what i had two weeks ago.  i was on flovent/serevent and antibiotics (doxycycline…destroyed my intestines. very sad. not doing those again)  i got a sharp, painful sore throat, almost as if someone had cut a part of my throat with a knife.  my tongue was painfully sore and had desnuded patches (the taste buds were gone) on about half, and white patches on the rest. i didn’t have any cheese particles but that seems to make it almost definite (as that’s the clear sign of a vaginal yeast infection!) i went in to the college health center and said "i’m on antibiotics and a steroid inhaler, i think i have a yeast infection in my mouth".  the doctor looked it over, told me i was right, said she probably would have treated me for strep with more antibiotics if i hadn’t figured it out on my own (another reason to be super-informed…).  she put me on nystatin liquid, 1 tsp 3 times a day for 5 days.  it went away although i’m a bit nervous that it’s not completely gone. (last night i felt the sore thoat again for a bit…and i’ve lost the upper register of my voice…)  the liquid was lovely, tasted like minty robitussin, but did the job.   good luck! jodi

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Help! Posted under Information Please! for the last two weeks, have gone back to my allergist after a number of years. Put me on Serevent and Flovent 110. Since that time I have developed a severe bacterial infection and am now on Cipro plus another week of 20mg of Predisone. Went to see him Friday of this last week for another lung function test and switched for the meantime to the next high dosage of Flovent until he tells me to go back to the first dosage subscribed.  Finally, am getting rid of the asthma sound and mucus build-up from the infection. Plus, he first told me not to take my Ventolin unless I felt I needed it. When I saw him Friday, when he changed the dosage of Flovent, he asked me how oftem I was using Ventolin and said once a day. The told me I should be taking it more often with this infection. I told him he did not tell me before use it more and now I do not know the symptoms to use it more often because I do not feel the chest closure. He told me now to take it 2 puffs every 4 hours.  Now that I am getting better, I have developed a very bad sore throat and my tongue feels like its on fire. If I swallow it is so sore and I have no white spots on the throat or inside of my mouth but have tiny little cheese-like particles in my mouth. Can all these medicines I am being bombarded with cause a candida yeast condition? I had a mild yeast infection before I went to the allergist, but did not associate any spreading of the condition when I was taking all this medicine. I could not reach my doctor today to talk to him. Am supposed to call him back Monday. My throat is so irritated from all this coughing from this infection. Michelle in TX

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

A yeast infection, AFAIK, is either caused by an alergic reaction or the yeast just finds a nice warm ear a good place to set up home. <advert I am the UK and Ireland distributor for a product called Ear Balm which is very good at clearing this up. It’s also available in the US and other countries (see URL below) <advert end If you think it may be a reaction to something that’s changed, check it out. Check with a vet unless you are SURE it’s a yeast infection. Try Ear Balm — Nick Advice & Help with Computers. Housekeeping, Consultancy & Development Your pet can’t clean his ears! http://worldemail.com/wetc/brushtec "VET it first" Vet Virus Protection Software Dealer May you receive the blessings of the goddess every day

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

Are you positive it’s a yeast infection? Has the dog had them in the past and this was confirmed and treated by your vet?  If not, go to the vet to be sure this is what she has. I have an old (14) lhasa who has had chronic yeast infections his entire life.  About 6 or 7 years ago, on one of my many trips in to see our vet, he suggested using Monostat on him, when his ears got re-infected. Carol Editor Canine Connections Magazine http://www.cheta.net/connect/canine/

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

A yeast infection, AFAIK, is either caused by an alergic reaction or the yeast just finds a nice warm ear a good place to set up home. <advert I am the UK and Ireland distributor for a product called Ear Balm which is very good at clearing this up. It’s also available in the US and other countries (see URL below) <advert end If you think it may be a reaction to something that’s changed, check it out. Check with a vet unless you are SURE it’s a yeast infection. Try Ear Balm — Nick Advice & Help with Computers. Housekeeping, Consultancy & Development Your pet can’t clean his ears! http://worldemail.com/wetc/brushtec "VET it first" Vet Virus Protection Software Dealer May you receive the blessings of the goddess every day

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My dog has a yeast infection in her ear. Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with this. Thanks

Are you positive it’s a yeast infection? Has the dog had them in the past and this was confirmed and treated by your vet?  If not, go to the vet to be sure this is what she has. I have an old (14) lhasa who has had chronic yeast infections his entire life.  About 6 or 7 years ago, on one of my many trips in to see our vet, he suggested using Monostat on him, when his ears got re-infected. Carol Editor Canine Connections Magazine http://www.cheta.net/connect/canine/

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 I have had a yeast infection on my penis for a few months. I can’t seem to shake it with the usual treatments. Any suggestions? Thanks.

If you’re sexually active, your partner(s) should be treated as well — otherwise you could be getting re-infected with each act of sex.  Heck, I suppose it’s even possible that you could get a penile yeast infection from fellatio performed by someone with oral thrush. Best of luck. — Chris — Irony is not the same thing as "irony"; point of view is not the same thing as attitude;  I have no confidence at all that these distinctions mean anything anymore.  – Jon Carroll

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:  Have you tried using Tea Tree Oil?  Comes in both an oil and gel : form.  You can get it at any godd health food store/pharmacy.  I thing : the gel like variety would be bes for yor case.  I have used it for athelites : foot after every allopathic remidy failed.  In days it was gone!  Tea Tree : oil good for all types of topical yeast/fungus infections.     It’s worth a try. Thanks, Matthew.

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DG  I have had a yeast infection on my penis for a few months. I can’t DGseem to shake it with the usual treatments. Any suggestions? Thanks.  Have you tried using Tea Tree Oil?  Comes in both an oil and gel form.  You can get it at any godd health food store/pharmacy.  I thing the gel like variety would be bes for yor case.  I have used it for athelites foot after every allopathic remidy failed.  In days it was gone!  Tea Tree oil good for all types of topical yeast/fungus infections.  matthew —  

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I am not a doctor. All medications work differently but Celexa has a good reputation for not having many side effects. NK "Tati" <azevedobor…@planet.nl

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hi, after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out that i felt better with them then without them. even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 years ago. since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and several low education – low pay jobs) because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him to give me some lighter stuff. so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered here. i simply cannot get it here! the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. what then? zoloft? Celexa? someone has some nice idea? and: i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of dizzyness…. i just dont know what to do now…. txs 4 any help! claudia

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Hi Claudia, I’m sorry that you’re seeing the side effects.  Hopefully, they’ll get better with time. Of the SSRI’s, I’ve found that Celexa and Lexapro to be low on side effects and effective.   YMMV. Welcome to the group. Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tati wrote:

hi, after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out that i felt better with them then without them. even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 years ago. since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and several low education – low pay jobs) because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him to give me some lighter stuff. so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered here. i simply cannot get it here! the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. what then? zoloft? Celexa? someone has some nice idea? and: i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of dizzyness…. i just dont know what to do now…. txs 4 any help! claudia

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Hi Claudia I am on 150mg Efexor, venlafaxine. I have heard about its side effects but havent really had any. When I first started taking it I got weird dreams but they went after a while. I am told thats true for most of the side effects of Effexor, they go after your body gets used to it. Efexor has helped me alot and i feel much happier. Previously i was on prozac and it did nothing for me at all ( Lawrence "Tati" <azevedobor…@planet.nl

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hi, after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out that i felt better with them then without them. even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 years ago. since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and several low education – low pay jobs) because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him to give me some lighter stuff. so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered here. i simply cannot get it here! the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. what then? zoloft? Celexa? someone has some nice idea? and: i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of dizzyness…. i just dont know what to do now…. txs 4 any help! claudia

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Hey Loz, How exactly do you feel effexor helps you? With the thoughts? the mood? the anxiety? or a bit of everything? I am finding it useless for the ocd..great for the depression and the withdrawal effects are awful.. Thanks for any help you can give! Am. xxx "Loz" <lawrence.whale@ntlworld-REMOVE_THIS-.com

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Hi Claudia I am on 150mg Efexor, venlafaxine. I have heard about its side effects but havent really had any. When I first started taking it I got weird dreams

but

they went after a while. I am told thats true for most of the side effects of Effexor, they go after your body gets used to it. Efexor has helped me alot and i feel much happier. Previously i was on prozac and it did

nothing > for me at all ( > Lawrence > "Tati" <azevedobor…@planet.nl

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> news:339dd1ca.0401121648.9a00fa3@posting.google.com… > > hi, > > after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad > > relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out > > that i felt better with them then without them. > > even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 > > years ago. > > since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, > > able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my > > level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and > > several low education – low pay jobs) > > because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was > > taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i > > consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him > > to give me some lighter stuff. > > so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. > > back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered > > here. i simply cannot get it here! > > the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. > > well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. > > what then? > > zoloft? > > Celexa? > > someone has some nice idea? > > and: > > i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it > > instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of > > dizzyness…. > > i just dont know what to do now…. > > txs 4 any help! > > claudia

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Am. Hi, Effexor has mainly helped me with my depression. 3 months ago I felt terrible and today I feel more like my old self, generally feel fairly happy ) I think it has helped my anxiety a little but I still get quite anxiuos at times. I dont think that it has helped with the OCD thoughts much. Thankfully I dont get any effexor side effects now. I think I will be sticking with this AD for the time being. It would be nice to be able to take a pill that gets rid of the OCD but in my case, mostly pure OCD, I dont think this will happen. I have just got to learn to control my mind through CBT which will be quite an effort but worth it in the end. Maybe another drug to help with my nerves/anxiety/worry might be useful, I will be asking my pdoc next week. Take care Lawrence "Pola_Pink" <pola_pin…@no.spam.hotmail.com

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Hey Loz, How exactly do you feel effexor helps you? With the thoughts? the mood?

the

anxiety? or a bit of everything? I am finding it useless for the

ocd..great > for the depression and the withdrawal effects are awful.. > Thanks for any help you can give! > Am. > xxx > "Loz" <lawrence.whale@ntlworld-REMOVE_THIS-.com

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> news:CZTMb.2666$YV1.214@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net… > > Hi Claudia > > I am on 150mg Efexor, venlafaxine. I have heard about its side effects but

havent really had any. When I first started taking it I got weird dreams but they went after a while. I am told thats true for most of the side

effects

of Effexor, they go after your body gets used to it. Efexor has helped

me > > alot and i feel much happier. Previously i was on prozac and it did > nothing > > for me at all ( > > Lawrence > > "Tati" <azevedobor…@planet.nl

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> > news:339dd1ca.0401121648.9a00fa3@posting.google.com… > > > hi, > > > after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad > > > relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out > > > that i felt better with them then without them. > > > even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 > > > years ago. > > > since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, > > > able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my > > > level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and > > > several low education – low pay jobs) > > > because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was > > > taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i > > > consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him > > > to give me some lighter stuff. > > > so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. > > > back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered > > > here. i simply cannot get it here! > > > the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. > > > well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. > > > what then? > > > zoloft? > > > Celexa? > > > someone has some nice idea? > > > and: > > > i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it > > > instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of > > > dizzyness…. > > > i just dont know what to do now…. > > > txs 4 any help! > > > claudia

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hi, after a post natale depression with some agravations (like bad relationships and such) i started taking antidepressants and found out that i felt better with them then without them. even so, i didnt take any for 7 years and started with paroxetine 4 years ago. since then i am able to have a very good relation with my lovely son, able to cope with life, lead a happy life and have a job that is on my level for the first time in my life ( i am 44!, 2 universities and several low education – low pay jobs) because of some worries about the side effects of the paroxetine i was taking, like heart palpitations, head eaches and weight gain, i consulted a psychiatrist in brazil (where i came from ) and asked him to give me some lighter stuff. so, he prescribed Ixel/ milnacipran. back in the netherlands: this is a medicine that is not registered here. i simply cannot get it here! the doctor here told me to take effexor instead. well, effexor’s nick name is " side effexor" what does not inspire me. what then? zoloft? Celexa? someone has some nice idea? and: i just started with Ixel/ milnacipran 4 days ago. i am taking it instead of paroxetine. well, i can hardly stand up because of dizzyness…. i just dont know what to do now…. txs 4 any help! claudia

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They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery… But somebody just ripped off my whole Keywords: line! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Lynd…@bigfoot.com (LyndaNP) wrote:

One of the best ways to learn about medication effects–both positive and negative–is by comparing notes with other patients.  The following index links to forum posts discussing each particular medication.  Read what others have had to say about your medication and share your own experiences. Adapin, Sinequan (doxepin) Anafranil (clomipramine) Buspar (buspirone) Desyrel (trazodone) Celexa (citalopram) Effexor (venlafaxine) Elavil, Endep (amitriptyline) Luvox (fluvoxamine) Nardil (phenelzine) Norpramin, Pertofrane (desipramine) Pamelor (nortryptyline) Parnate (tranylcypromine) Paxil, Seroxat (paroxetine) Prozac (fluoxetine) Remeron (mirtazapine) Serzone  (nefazodone) Surmontil (trimipramine) Tofranil (imipramine) Vestra (reboxetine) Wellbutrin (bupropion) Zoloft (sertraline) — LyndaNP

— "Thou shalt not suffer a witch [poisoner] to live" – Exodus 22:18 "A man or a woman who is a medium or a wizard shall be put to death" – Leviticus 20:27 More more info, visit http://www.drugawareness.org

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dear elaine, hello i have had spasmodic torticollis for 14 years. i cannot say that the head tremors are worse. it occurs more frequently  my muscles are stiff. and trying to hold my head still is a quest  for me in public. i have trouble with burning in the back of my neck. i use a heating pad for this. i’ve taken alot of meds. valium seems to be my poison. klonopin sent me packing with a seizure.music and walking help also. been to the ie; best in the state neuros. and docs. no botox.do’nt want it . the best  i have done is get educated on this mercyless ilness. i hope this helps.debbie

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elaine, I have had st for a year and a half. It took three months to find it which is short compared to most. My neurologist was a movement disorder Dr. and found it in one hour.  He could not tell me if it would get worse. I then went to Baylor medical center in Houston. Dr. Jankovic at the movement disorder center gave me the same answer to st. He said he could not say if it would get worse or better as everyone is different. I have tremors of the head with mine and jerky all over sometimes and he said my tremors probably would get worse. Good luck and God bless.  I will  say prayers for you. Loretta

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Dear Elaine, My consultant neurologist just treats people with Dystonia and Parkinson’s. He has treated me with botullinum toxin for spasmodic torticollis for 8 years. His experience of patients with adult onset dystonia is that 80% continue with much the same symptoms for the long term. 10% get worse in the sense that they either develop more severe local symptoms or other muscles become affected. 10% go into full remission.  By which he means an absence of symptoms for many years rather than the general ups and downs with which we are all familiar. A more likely long term problem in my experience is the increased pain that comes with the extra strain that is put on our musceloskeletal system as a side effect of coping with the neck twisting.  In addition I know that some develop a resistance to the particular type of botullinum toxin with which they are being injected. I would echo the advice of others who have replied that you find a neurologist who specialises in dystonia. My experience of non-specialist neurologists is not great. If you were in the UK I could give you some names to look for. Regards, David Well at last after 6 years of asking, the GP I saw today is referring me to a neurologist, she wasn’t too familiar with Dystonia at all, but she listened to me and didn’t fob me off with "anxiety and tension". She also asked for web addresses for her own personal interest. So I’ll just need to wait see what happens next. Thanks again to all of you who replied to my first post. Just one more question, from experience what are the chances of ST worsening after between 6 – 9 years? I’ve not been as bad the past 4? Regards Elaine

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HI;  In my own estimate it depends on you and what you do. If you are working and that aggravates it then  I would say it could get worse. I find that I can do many things today that I would not even think of 2 years after getting this. I also posted a site on degenerative disks as they can cause spasms.What type and how bad I’m not sure of.                gary; – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well at last after 6 years of asking, the GP I saw today is referring me to a neurologist, she wasn’t too familiar with Dystonia at all, but she listened to me and didn’t fob me off with "anxiety and tension". She also asked for web addresses for her own personal interest. So I’ll just need to wait see what happens next. Thanks again to all of you who replied to my first post. Just one more question, from experience what are the chances of ST worsening after between 6 – 9 years? I’ve not been as bad the past 4? Regards Elaine

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Well at last after 6 years of asking, the GP I saw today is referring me to a neurologist, she wasn’t too familiar with Dystonia at all, but she listened to me and didn’t fob me off with "anxiety and tension". She also

Folks who have Dystonia, because of way they attempt to control muscles spasms, give the impression they suffer from anxiety and tension. I also have essential tremor.  Some folks get the impressions, I suppose, that I am a nervous person but that is not the case.  Fatigue and stress will make it worst, but certain foods, liquids and movements will do the same thing. If I consciously try to control it, it will get worst.  Seems as if messages in the brain are mixed up.  All frustrating and complex. Spasms and tremor are usually worst in the mornings. asked for web addresses for her own personal interest. So I’ll just need to wait see what happens next. Thanks again to all of you who replied to my first post. Just one more question, from experience what are the chances of ST worsening after between 6 – 9 years? I’ve not been as bad the past 4?

ST flares up for five to six years, goes into remission on it’s own and then may come back later on.   It is important that you see a neurologist who is familiar with the syndrome.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Regards Elaine

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Well at last after 6 years of asking, the GP I saw today is referring me to a neurologist, she wasn’t too familiar with Dystonia at all, but she listened to me and didn’t fob me off with "anxiety and tension". She also asked for web addresses for her own personal interest. So I’ll just need to wait see what happens next. Thanks again to all of you who replied to my first post. Just one more question, from experience what are the chances of ST worsening after between 6 – 9 years? I’ve not been as bad the past 4? Regards Elaine

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Hi everyone. 4 weeks off Zoloft(for Anxiety)- coping fairly well, some days really suck and others are fine. Apparently I do my current job to well or the company is desperate for help.  I dunno, but I am flattered that I am being asked.  My situation is this. I do not need the money ( I guess I could probably make $2. more per hour ) but Christmas is coming – It would help out (If I can stand to shop long enough –  I hate the hustle and bustle) I consider myself fairly intellegent and enjoy doing my job well and having people notice. I do want to be challenged mentally as well as with the anxiety. I do want to "HELP" my struggling boss trying to do 2 + jobs. But: I do not want to supervise a bunch of whining brats. I do not to run around the office like my hair is on fire. I do want to sleep at nite. I tend to (Process) things in my head over and over. I have a week to decide. My main concern is my mental health – I don’t want to stir up anything- but yet I don’t know if just taking the EASIER way – Is the best way to go through the rest of my life. (I’m 31) I guess I feel somewhat obligated to try this out (after all "they think pretty highly of me")- the Supervisor said I could return to my current position if I want to -but could I look him in the eye and ask to be demoted? He probably would talk me out of it just as he is trying to talk me into it. I know that none of you know me or the company I work for- but what do you think? Bonnie Before you buy.

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Glad to hear you’re doing  well off med,and at your job,  BUT  give it a lot of thought before you take the promotion.  I got the shaft recently with a co. who loved me, bragged about me, put me in charge of buying as well as asst. mngr, but, then when I got ill they didn’t want me, harrassed me, lied about me, etc.  It’s much better to be loved where you are than to be treated so poorly.   My last job before this one,  demoted me   for getting ill and missing to much hard long hours, and the only satisfaction is knowing you did your best, and whatever makes us ill, we don;t ask for.  Mine was asthma, no mental problem at that time.    Anyway -Good Luck in your future, and with love and concern I will pray whatever decesion you make that God helps you to make the right one.  We are each diff. LOL Charisma  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone. 4 weeks off Zoloft(for Anxiety)- coping fairly well, some days really suck and others are fine. Apparently I do my current job to well or the company is desperate for help.  I dunno, but I am flattered that I am being asked.  My situation is this. I do not need the money ( I guess I could probably make $2. more per hour ) but Christmas is coming – It would help out (If I can stand to shop long enough –  I hate the hustle and bustle) I consider myself fairly intellegent and enjoy doing my job well and having people notice. I do want to be challenged mentally as well as with the anxiety. I do want to "HELP" my struggling boss trying to do 2 + jobs. But: I do not want to supervise a bunch of whining brats. I do not to run around the office like my hair is on fire. I do want to sleep at nite. I tend to (Process) things in my head over and over. I have a week to decide. My main concern is my mental health – I don’t want to stir up anything- but yet I don’t know if just taking the EASIER way – Is the best way to go through the rest of my life. (I’m 31) I guess I feel somewhat obligated to try this out (after all "they think pretty highly of me")- the Supervisor said I could return to my current position if I want to -but could I look him in the eye and ask to be demoted? He probably would talk me out of it just as he is trying to talk me into it. I know that none of you know me or the company I work for- but what do you think? Bonnie

Dear Bonnie, Congratulations on being offered a promotion, I am sure that had to make you feel good Only you can decide whether or not you should go for it. I think it is great that your boss would allow you to go back to your old position if need be. I wish you much luck in whatever you decide!! Take care. Jackie ~*~You may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment if

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Hi, bonnie, Pat yourself on the back for me – it is a tremendous feeling to be noticed and given the chance for a promotion.  About ten years ago I was in the same situation and it made me feel wonderful.  but for many reasons, one being anxiety, I didn’t accept and to this day I know I made the right decision. Absolutely love my job and wouldn’t give it up unless I had to.  Not many people are this fortunate to love their jobs but when you have one you do enjoy it makes going to work much easier.  good luck on your decision making and please let us know wht you decide. smiles, elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone. 4 weeks off Zoloft(for Anxiety)- coping fairly well, some days really suck and others are fine. Apparently I do my current job to well or the company is desperate for help.  I dunno, but I am flattered that I am being asked.  My situation is this. I do not need the money ( I guess I could probably make $2. more per hour ) but Christmas is coming – It would help out (If I can stand to shop long enough –  I hate the hustle and bustle) I consider myself fairly intellegent and enjoy doing my job well and having people notice. I do want to be challenged mentally as well as with the anxiety. I do want to "HELP" my struggling boss trying to do 2 + jobs. But: I do not want to supervise a bunch of whining brats. I do not to run around the office like my hair is on fire. I do want to sleep at nite. I tend to (Process) things in my head over and over. I have a week to decide. My main concern is my mental health – I don’t want to stir up anything- but yet I don’t know if just taking the EASIER way – Is the best way to go through the rest of my life. (I’m 31) I guess I feel somewhat obligated to try this out (after all "they think pretty highly of me")- the Supervisor said I could return to my current position if I want to -but could I look him in the eye and ask to be demoted? He probably would talk me out of it just as he is trying to talk me into it. I know that none of you know me or the company I work for- but what do you think? Bonnie Dear Bonnie, Congratulations on being offered a promotion, I am sure that had to make you feel good Only you can decide whether or not you should go for it. I think it is great that your boss would allow you to go back to your old position if need be. I wish you much luck in whatever you decide!! Take care. Jackie ~*~You may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment if

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone. 4 weeks off Zoloft(for Anxiety)- coping fairly well, some days really suck and others are fine. Apparently I do my current job to well or the company is desperate for help.  I dunno, but I am flattered that I am being asked.  My situation is this. I do not need the money ( I guess I could probably make $2. more per hour ) but Christmas is coming – It would help out (If I can stand to shop long enough –  I hate the hustle and bustle) I consider myself fairly intellegent and enjoy doing my job well and having people notice. I do want to be challenged mentally as well as with the anxiety. I do want to "HELP" my struggling boss trying to do 2 + jobs. But: I do not want to supervise a bunch of whining brats. I do not to run around the office like my hair is on fire. I do want to sleep at nite. I tend to (Process) things in my head over and over. I have a week to decide. My main concern is my mental health – I don’t want to stir up anything- but yet I don’t know if just taking the EASIER way – Is the best way to go through the rest of my life. (I’m 31) I guess I feel somewhat obligated to try this out (after all "they think pretty highly of me")- the Supervisor said I could return to my current position if I want to – but could I look him in the eye and ask to be demoted? He probably would talk me out of it just as he is trying to talk me into it. I know that none of you know me or the company I work for- but what do you think? Bonnie Before you buy. I haven’t decided for sure yet.  But I think I’m going to take a

chance and do the thing I fear most.  I appreciate all of your advice- I’m going into this with my eyes wide open- and if it doesn’t work out and they don’t let me do my old job- well then maybe it’s time to move on. (I fear that too) I will keep you posted. Best of Health to you all, Bonnie Before you buy.

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Phone the hospital!!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – argggggggggggggggggggggg its so annoying Before you buy.

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argggggggggggggggggggggg its so annoying

Having been without your Zoloft for several days (why? It’s not advisable…) your body needs to become accustomed to it again. It is certainly not dangerous at all and will be temporary, may take a few days… Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Before you buy.

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Frenchi, how many tablets did you take at the same time?  Call your doctor! Dot Before you buy.

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argggggggggggggggggggggg its so annoying Before you buy.

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Do yourself two favors, never take a friend’s medication and call your doc now! — TC3 Always take an emergency leisurely. Chinese Proverb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – argggggggggggggggggggggg its so annoying Before you buy.

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What do you mean – you took them together? Do you mean that you usually split your dosage up but instead took the full dosage? I don’t think and I hope that you did not mean that you took the Zoloft that you didn’t take for the few days. Well I am not an expert on this but I do take Zoloft and have been for about five years. I was told by my doctor that I could separate my dosage or take it all at once it was entirely up to me. I know that side effects for Zoloft have been documented up to 200mg and with that dosage you will experience more side effects. What you are describing is common side effects for people on that dosage. I am assuming that if you have not taken your Zoloft for a few days that your blood levels are very low and that is why you are experiencing side effects now. My Zoloft was just upped from 100 to 150mg and I experienced the same side effects you are describing for about a week. You should direct your question to Margrove as I am sure he will be able to give you a more accurate and reliable answer. Take care Zedexa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – argggggggggggggggggggggg its so annoying Before you buy.

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Maybe it’s me on effexor withdrawal, but the proliferation of these multiple threads sucks.  Is there a problem with some people’s browsers?  Why can’t people continue the thread instead of splintering it into another category?  It’s really irritating, especially since my browser is slow and so the extra scrolling, guessing if the discussion is a continuation or new takes a lot of time and money. basically, I’m otta here.  Too slow. Best, AD Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Actually, a lot of your problem is your browser. Sure, people should be careful not to splinter threads, but a good browser will put most of that back where it goes. I see that you use Netscape3.01 Gold and Windows 95. Chances are that you have room on your hard drive for Agent, which will solve most of your problems. I used to get irritated at the same thing. Keith – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe it’s me on effexor withdrawal, but the proliferation of these multiple threads sucks.  Is there a problem with some people’s browsers? Why can’t people continue the thread instead of splintering it into another category?  It’s really irritating, especially since my browser is slow and so the extra scrolling, guessing if the discussion is a continuation or new takes a lot of time and money. basically, I’m otta here.  Too slow. Best, AD Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-panic X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon — TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have suffered from a condition which makes my hands tremble. When ever I am with someone and I have to sign or pick somethig delicate or valuable up If I think they are looking at me I will start trembling. It also occurs when in a shop and I pick up some china etc and my hands start shaking because someone Mally has suggested you have a tremor problem in addition to your anxiety. If this is the case than medication to control the tremor might be helpful. If however the tremor only occurs in social situations the liklyhood is that it is anxiety related. If this is the case the treatment of you phobia via cognative behavioral therapy would be an option. Jim Claiborn Ph.D.

Just to keep the record straight I didn’t suggest that the poster had a tremor problem – I said they *may* have one and also stated that it was entirely possible that it was an anxiety/PD problem as other’s have experienced this. Last thing I want to do is tell people what they’ve got or what treatment they should use!  Er……guess I don’t mind saying what "treatments" I think *nobody* should use!  <g Mally  :)

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(dennis goos) writes: Just to keep the record straight I didn’t suggest that the poster had a tremor problem – I said they *may* have one and also stated that it was entirely possible that it was an anxiety/PD problem as other’s have experienced this. Last thing I want to do is tell people what they’ve got or what treatment they should use!  Er……guess I don’t mind saying what "treatments" I think *nobody* should use!  <g Mally  :)

I was just going to write a response to that about how you said *may* have a tremor problem when I decided to read on and found your response.  You and Dr. Clairborn sure have different opinions….which of course is great, its good to hear both sides….but have you two *agreed to disagree*? <g Cyndie

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(dennis goos) writes: As you and I well know Cyndie, a movement disorder of any kind should be thoroughly investigated by a movement disorder specialist.  I find it quite amazing and shocking that CT therapy is being used to treat movement disorders.  I think it is indefensible that Jim would suggest CT as a treatment – much as I realize that he’s convinced that it cures everything from warts to premature baldness!  <g

Yeah, I could just imagine me taking Jeremy to therepy for dystonia! <g Cyndie

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Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-panic X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon — TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have suffered from a condition which makes my hands tremble. When ever I am with someone and I have to sign or pick somethig delicate or valuable up If I think they are looking at me I will start trembling. It also occurs when in a shop and I pick up some china etc and my hands start shaking because someone could be watching me and I may drop it. These symptoms seem to go around in never larger circles as the more I think about it the more I shake. This has been with me since I was 15 and now I am 28. In everyday life I try to avoid signing in public and so I avoid paying on credit card as I might shake as I know people are looking for your signature. Talking to the cashier helps but not enough. If anyone else suffers from a similar condition please let me know also as i am from england does anybody know of any books or anyone that can help me with this condition. Am I alone? Mark

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-panic X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon — TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have suffered from a condition which makes my hands tremble. When ever I am with someone and I have to sign or pick somethig delicate or valuable up If I think they are looking at me I will start trembling. It also occurs when in a shop and I pick up some china etc and my hands start shaking because someone could be watching me and I may drop it. These symptoms seem to go around in never larger circles as the more I think about it the more I shake. This has been with me since I was 15 and now I am 28. In everyday life I try to avoid signing in public and so I avoid paying on credit card as I might shake as I know people are looking for your signature. Talking to the cashier helps but not enough. If anyone else suffers from a similar condition please let me know also as i am from england does anybody know of any books or anyone that can help me with this condition. Am I alone? Mark

Hi Mark: I have Essential Tremor as well as PD.  This makes my hands shake a lot – stress can make it worse, as does carrying anything heavy, etc.  When I’m nervous, stressed or have been doing something physical I can shake/tremble all over.  I like to think of myself as a mover and a shaker!  :)   Has your doctor checked Essential Tremor out for you?  A neurologist would be able to tell you whether there is any indication of this. There have been others on this group who have posted with similar problems also, so it is possible that it is a PD symptom. Feel free to email me if you have more questions. Mally  

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Newsgroups: alt.support.anxiety-panic X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon — TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have suffered from a condition which makes my hands tremble. When ever I am with someone and I have to sign or pick somethig delicate or valuable up If I think they are looking at me I will start trembling. It also occurs when in a shop and I pick up some china etc and my hands start shaking because someone could be watching me and I may drop it.

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Hi Mark, I’ve experienced the same problem. I used to work in a restaurant, and I would shake or worry about shaking when I was carrying things to a table. Also, I have difficulty signing in public – my signature looks worse than usual because I shake. A method I use to alleviate this is replace the "what if" (as in what if I shake) with "so what". This sometimes helps with other "what if" situations. Hope this helps. Or at least maybe it’ll help to know that you’re not the only one who has experienced this. Peace, Don Ganton

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