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This is great. Would you please add Singulair 10 mg and Flovent 220 or 110? Thanks so much.

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Greetings again For some time now, I have spent various amounts of my online time searching the web for legitimate, reputable, online pharmacies, and checking their prices for various meds that I am on [almost all of which are asthma/allergy meds]. The differences in prices has been… fascinating… Especially when comparing what I pay at retail stores and what the prices are online… Knowing that this information is useful for me, I am assuming that it would be useful for others And, even if you do have insurance, you may want to take a look at what the prices are like [if nothing else, it will make you appreciate the value and cost of your insurance *When doing well* I spend $450 a month on meds, with no insurance, and I would gladly pay a few hundred a month to HAVE insurance...]. So… Within the next couple of days I will be posting a webpage of comparative drug prices. As of right now, I have prices on: Ventolin nebulizer solution Intal MDI Intal nebulizer solution Pulmicort turbuhaler Zyrtec [10 mg tablets] Serevent MDI Serevent Diskus And have used the following online pharmacies: PlanetRx DrugEmporium Drugstore.com <which is a Rite-Aid pharmacy] Eckerd.com If you have meds you would like included in the list, or online pharmacies to recommend… Please let me know [preferrably by email so that I don't miss it, but posting to the newsgroup is fine too; or do both ]. I will try to include as many as I can, though I do reserve the right to pick and choose which ones will be included. For now, I am limiting the page to asthma and allergy meds [which therefore does include antihistamines], and will also for now limit it to those meds that require an Rx in the USA… I may add other comparative info… and maybe a guestbook or something where people can post comments and such… But that shall come Later Hopefully someone will find the info useful! SW.

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You can’t imagine how useful! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings again For some time now, I have spent various amounts of my online time searching the web for legitimate, reputable, online pharmacies, and checking their prices for various meds that I am on [almost all of which are asthma/allergy meds]. The differences in prices has been… fascinating… Especially when comparing what I pay at retail stores and what the prices are online… Knowing that this information is useful for me, I am assuming that it would be useful for others And, even if you do have insurance, you may want to take a look at what the prices are like [if nothing else, it will make you appreciate the value and cost of your insurance *When doing well* I spend $450 a month on meds, with no insurance, and I would gladly pay a few hundred a month to HAVE insurance...]. So… Within the next couple of days I will be posting a webpage of comparative drug prices. As of right now, I have prices on: Ventolin nebulizer solution Intal MDI Intal nebulizer solution Pulmicort turbuhaler Zyrtec [10 mg tablets] Serevent MDI Serevent Diskus And have used the following online pharmacies: PlanetRx DrugEmporium Drugstore.com <which is a Rite-Aid pharmacy] Eckerd.com If you have meds you would like included in the list, or online pharmacies to recommend… Please let me know [preferrably by email so that I don't miss it, but posting to the newsgroup is fine too; or do both ]. I will try to include as many as I can, though I do reserve the right to pick and choose which ones will be included. For now, I am limiting the page to asthma and allergy meds [which therefore does include antihistamines], and will also for now limit it to those meds that require an Rx in the USA… I may add other comparative info… and maybe a guestbook or something where people can post comments and such… But that shall come Later Hopefully someone will find the info useful! SW.

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I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly

Maybe one of these days this info will get incorporated into the FAQ. Singulair and Accolate have a pattern of beneficial response where VERY APPROXIMATELY 1/3 of users expereince a strong, positve response; 1/3 of users get a mild benefit; and 1/3 of users derive NO BENEFIT at all. IT takes a month or two to distinguish between the second and third groups.

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Hi Kelly, I have felt exactly the same about Singulair. I have been on it now for about 1 year but have not noticed any improvement with it at all. I am still on Prednisolone 20mg, Theophylline 300mg x2, Fluticasone 1000mcg x2, Serevent 50mcg and 100mcg, Atrovent 40mg x2 and Ventolin 200mg x4 everyday. Why is it that Sigulair seems to be the saviour for some, and a waste of time for others like us? Maybe some others out there will know the answer to that. Becky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly

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Singulair is ususally prescribed for those with mild to moderate asthma. an expert on asthma but I’m surprised that your symptoms are so servere after a year of treatment! Has your doctor changed your meds during that time or suggested other forms of therapy?

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I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair??

Not a wonderful success but I would say *some* success. I was on flixotide, atrovent, ventolin, phyllocontin and needing prednisolone about every 3 months. After some difficulties and disruption at work I rapidly went downhill until I was at 6 days per month off work and needing prednisolone every few weeks. The doses I was on of the other things were about the maximum suggested (and about 30+ shots of ventolin per day). In April 1997 my parents went on holiday for a while and I "house sat" for them; playing computer games mainly. I got so involved in one of them I played for 36 hours straight; the only medication I took in that time was ventolin. I felt a lot better. I haven’t touched flixotide or atrovent since; medical advice was that I was looking for a very serious attack anytime soon if I didn’t go back on the medication. I held out. However the medication I *was* on appears to be the "standard" treatment for "brittle asthma" – i.e. very rapid onset (the stuff that may kill on the first attack with a new subject); I *don’t have* rapid onset asthma. The treatment I had had and had been receiving was a "hold over" from the prescription practices of a previous doctor – it had never been explained to me what it was all for and my current doctor had (as I had) assumed it was all o.k. Since I was still at about *two* days off work per month I saw my *new* doctor again; she suggested Singulair (‘cos we’d tried everything else). I’m now down to about 1 day per month on average from asthma related problems. So, I wouldn’t say it was *hugely* succesful; I would say it works reasonably well for me as I have a very slow declining sort of asthma problem and it stabilises my base levels. I’ve now been on Singulair over a year; my energy levels are much more than previously and I don’t have to worry about going out (I know I shall be able to physically cope until I can get back). I have had less ‘flu and bronchitic problems (possibly because I’m not on oral steroids all the time now) and I’m a lot happier with my state generally. It *wasn’t* a quick fix; it’s been very gradual in my case. change demonically challenged to demon in reply; hoping to avoid the spam Rex M F Smith

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I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly

I’ve read Singulair has a sucess of 1/3 show dramatic improvement, 1/3 show significant improvement, 1/3 show no improvement. If you show no improvement, you should stop taking it. New studies show it starts to become effective within the 1st 24 hr, if it doesn’t help in 7 days, it probably won’t help. I started Singulair last spring. Initially I got a 10% improvement with peak flow and was happy with it. In the summer I had some exacerbations that dropped peak flows to 50%, and Singulair didn’t seem to help (tho it isn’t supposed to help in exacerbations) I did notice some side effects of tiredness, and was taking every other day. Lately I just stopped taking, may start up again. I use a peak flow meter to monitor lung function and a Action Plan to increase meds when peak flow drops into Yellow Zone. I’ve been using a new steroid inhaler, Pulmicort, since beginning of year. It’s so effective I don’t seem to need Singulair. If you need inhalers 3-4x/day, your asthma is not well controlled. Most asthmatics can control their asthma with inhaled steroids twice a day; and an occasional puff of albuterol less than once/day. (I also use Serevent twice a day) Ellis

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I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems.

I tried Accolate and Singulair for two months each. I could have been taking sugar pills, they had no effects whatsoever (but no side effects either). From the reports in the newsgroup about 1/3 of the people who try it get dramatic results, another 1/3 get mild results and the final 1/3 (us) get no results. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." Einstein

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I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly

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Kelly, I showed almost immediate results from taking singulair! When you say inhaler, to what medicaiton are you refering. Is it a preventor medication like servent or a reliever med like proventil? You might require a preventor med to stop your asthma from getting out of hand. Are you taking any inhaled steriods such as azmacort or flovent? These are primary meds in preventing asthma since they help to prevent inflamation of the bronchial tubes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know people have probably over posted about this, but.. is there anyone (besides me that is) who *hasn’t* had wonderful success with Singulair?? I’ve been on it for months now and I’ve hardly noticed a thing. I’m still taking my inhaler 3 and 4 times a day! Are the people who’re having lots of luck with it taking it in conjunction with other things? It’s *so* frustrating, since I still can hardly walk down the hall without having problems. Thanks for your help! Kelly

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Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn

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If you are getting headaches from the Singulair you need to call your doctor and tell him. He may advice you to quit taking it. Any side effect of a drug should be reported to your doctor at once!! Janice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn

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Headaches are a known side affect with Singulair. My patient information guide shows that and the Dr. has confirmed that. It is a side affect I am willing to deal with so long as my asthma is controlled. I have cough asthma and I have tried just about every drug combo/type in the past 2.5 years with no real relief. So far, I am getting slowly better on the singuliar with Flovent 110 2puffs 2x and albuterol as needed. At this point I just want to know what works to relieve the headaches and if they will taper off as I adjust to the Singulair over time. From what I have been told, the answer so far seems to be yes. Thanks for your reply, Lynn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are getting headaches from the Singulair you need to call your doctor and tell him. He may advice you to quit taking it. Any side effect of a drug should be reported to your doctor at once!! Janice Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn

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Lynn, When you have to start taking meds for the side-effects, there is cause to be concerned. What the headaches are from?? I tried Singulair and am considering it again (I still have 1/2 bottle left), but I did have flare-up while I was on it and went back to Accolate. I’m not noticing any side effects, otherwise I’d think twice about continuing. Better report that to the doc too. Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches

almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn<< Sue M.

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The Prescribing Information shows that headaches with Singular are not significently greater than with placebo. See: www.singulair.com http://www.merck.com/!!vmIKI0y_2vmIKL0ZbE/product/usa/singulair/presc… Adverse Effects "Headache 18.4% with Singulair, 18.1% with placebo" So its rather unlikely that Singulair is the cause of your headaches. However you could try stopping Singulair for a few days to see, with your doctor’s permission. Headache is a known side effects of albuterol. See www.rxlist.com Ellis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Headaches are a known side affect with Singulair. My patient information guide shows that and the Dr. has confirmed that. It is a side affect I am willing to deal with so long as my asthma is controlled. I have cough asthma and I have tried just about every drug combo/type in the past 2.5 years with no real relief. So far, I am getting slowly better on the singuliar with Flovent 110 2puffs 2x and albuterol as needed. At this point I just want to know what works to relieve the headaches and if they will taper off as I adjust to the Singulair over time. From what I have been told, the answer so far seems to be yes. Thanks for your reply, Lynn If you are getting headaches from the Singulair you need to call your doctor and tell him. He may advice you to quit taking it. Any side effect of a drug should be reported to your doctor at once!! Janice Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Prescribing Information shows that headaches with Singular are not significently greater than with placebo. See: www.singulair.com http://www.merck.com/!!vmIKI0y_2vmIKL0ZbE/product/usa/singulair/presc… fo/pi.html Adverse Effects "Headache 18.4% with Singulair, 18.1% with placebo" So its rather unlikely that Singulair is the cause of your headaches. However you could try stopping Singulair for a few days to see, with your doctor’s permission. Headache is a known side effects of albuterol. See www.rxlist.com

went to that site and searched albuterol…it claims that for inhalation aersols, Proventil is "not rated equivalent" to an equal dose of Ventolin. I just got switched TO Ventolin from Proventil, so I’d like to know from someone who hopefully does: what’s the difference? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ellis Headaches are a known side affect with Singulair. My patient information guide shows that and the Dr. has confirmed that. It is a side affect I am willing to deal with so long as my asthma is controlled. I have cough asthma and I have tried just about every drug combo/type in the past 2.5 years with no real relief. So far, I am getting slowly better on the singuliar with Flovent 110 2puffs 2x and albuterol as needed. At this point I just want to know what works to relieve the headaches and if they will taper off as I adjust to the Singulair over time. From what I have been told, the answer so far seems to be yes. Thanks for your reply, Lynn If you are getting headaches from the Singulair you need to call your doctor and tell him. He may advice you to quit taking it. Any side effect of a drug should be reported to your doctor at once!! Janice Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before. For those with the same sideaffect, what are you taking that seems to work on these headaches? Thanks, Lynn

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Headache is a known side effects of albuterol. See www.rxlist.com went to that site and searched albuterol…it claims that for inhalation aersols, Proventil is "not rated equivalent" to an equal dose of Ventolin. I just got switched TO Ventolin from Proventil, so I’d like to know from someone who hopefully does: what’s the difference? Ellis ——cut——- — Emily

Hmmmm. Good question. I thought Ventolin and Proventil (and generic albuterol/salbutamol) MDI’s were equivalent. But you are correct, the site says not only are the MDI’s not equivalent but other forms of albuterol (powder, pills) are not equivalent. However, Ventolin is made by Glaxo of England, and in the US is also supplied as Proventil by Schering under license from Glaxo. I doubt that the differences are significent, and I think if anything that Ventolin is the more reliable product. I think I did see a post that said Schering uses a different pressure in their propellant, but its interesting the other versions of albuterol are also not equivalent; maybe absorbed at a different rate. Ventolin and Proventil both have the same amount of albuterol, 90 mcg/puff at the mouthpiece [100 mcg/puff at nozzle]. My HMO provides generic albuterol MDI’s, Dey. It seems to work as well as Ventolin or Proventil, both of which I have used. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/albut1.htm albuterol Excerpt: "How Supplied – Rated Therapeutically Equivalent: Aerosol, Metered – Inhalation – 0.09 mg/inh 17 gm, 200 inh $22.20 Ventolin, Refill, Glaxo Wellcome 00173-0321-98 17 gm, 200 inh $24.08 Ventolin, Inhaler, Glaxo Wellcome 00173-0321-88 How Supplied – Not Rated Equivalent: Aerosol, Metered – Inhalation – 0.09 mg/inh 17 gm $22.20 Proventil, Schering 00085-0614-03 17 gm $24.09 Proventil, Schering 00085-0614-02 Capsule, Gelatin – Inhalation – 200 mcg 100’s $24.08 Ventolin, Rotacaps, Refill, Glaxo Wellcome 00173-0389-02 100’s $28.42 Ventolin, Rotacaps, Glaxo Wellcome 00173-0389-01 24’s $19.51 Ventolin Rotacaps, Glaxo Wellcome 00173-0389-03 Powder – - 100 gm $135.00 Albuterol Sulfate, Elge 58298-0509-01 100 gm $187.50 Albuterol, Paddock Labs 00574-0512-01 25 gm $52.50 Albuterol, Paddock Labs 00574-0512-25 Tablet, Coated, Sustained Action – Oral – 4 mg 100’s $63.24 Volmax, Muro Pharm 00451-0398-50 100’s $63.31 Proventil Repetabs, Schering 00085-0431-02 100’s $79.28 Proventil Repetabs, Schering 00085-0431-04 500’s $307.10 Proventil, Schering 00085-0431-03 60’s $35.67 Volmax, Muro Pharm 00451-0398-00 Tablet, Coated, Sustained Action – Oral – 8 mg 100’s $117.42 Volmax, Muro Pharm 00451-0399-50 60’s $63.60 Volmax, Muro Pharm 00451-0399-00" Copyright 1997 – Mosby Inc. – Mosby’s GenRx

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Since I started Singulair 10mg 1x tablets 2 weeks ago, I get headaches almost daily. (Didn’t have that with Accolate). I have tried advil and tylenol but neither seems to get rid of the headache completely. Sometimes the headache is on one side only—never had that before.

boy, I thought I was going crazy expirencing this! like you, nothing seems to work, and my asthma doc is convinced there’s "no side-effects" with singulair…maybe it’s finally time to get a second (and third if necessary ) opinion! Judge me all you want, just keep the verdict to yourself

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Is this pretty much normal for coming off Paxil? I took a look at the website you recommended and there seem to be a lot of side effects. I’m asking on behalf of my 10 year old nephew. Today his doctor changed his medication from Paxil to something else (can’t remember – began with an R). He was on 20mg a day and he’s cutting the dose in half for the next three days, then having him take the half dose every other day. His mom is already at the end of her rope and if there are going to be side effects from this, she’s totally unprepared for them.

If you are changing from one antidepressant to another, I don’t think you will have side effects (or they won’t be as bad). NK

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On Fri, 02 May 2003 23:03:52 GMT, "No kidding!" <nokidd…@NOSPAMria.net wrote: I took Paxil for many years and the first few times I tried to come off

of

it, I had really *bad* discontinuation symptoms myself- dizziness so bad

I’d

have to go and lie down, "electric shock" sensations that would go

through

my body. Even when going down to the minimum dose of 5 mg I would suffer side effects when stopping. I finally went to the

http://www.quitpaxil.org/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

website and it gave me lots of good advice for weaning from it. I was able to get liquid Paxil and taper off 1 mg at a time (over a

period

of weeks) and this was the only way I could wean myself off the

medication

without side effects. If I remember, Effexor gave me side effects, too

but

not as bad as the Paxil. Antidepressants aren’t candy so I don’t recommend them for minor

depression

but if you’re sick enough, I still think they’re worth it. They helped me out a lot. sure..with the emphasis on IF you are sick enough with genuine profound depression..and with informed consent. Where the profit motive and a drive to expand markets are the motivation, history shows it takes legal action to compel pharmaceutical companies to provide the information needed for any kind of informed consent worth its name. And as for highpowered TV advertising to entice people to badger an uninformed GP to prescribe for the variety of ailments they claim it suitable for…….criminal prosecution .

I have mixed feelings about the TV advertising. On one level, I’m glad people can see there are options to help them. Educating the public is not a bad thing but I totaly agree that medications (for depression and ADHD) are being doled out more often than they should. I ‘m not a nurse but I’ve worked in the medical field for the past 27 years and I’m always seeing MD’s prescribe psych meds that have no business doing so (i.e regular GPs and gynecologists). I can’t tell you all the ADHD kids I see coming in for pre-medication work ups that could probably benefit from other options rather than medication but that’s the easiest avenue. I had a friend who was a little down and she went to her GYN doc and asked for an antidepressant and he prescribed Effexor! Despite this, I’m still a firm believer in medication under the right circumstances. I was in bad shape at one time and I probably would be dead or severely incapacitated without it. Thank goodness I went to a competant psychiatrist and he was willing to work with me when the time came to come off the Paxil. Some of them out there do not believe in the discontinuation symptoms and make their patients go cold turkey. Brutal! Patients also need to take a little responsibility for their own health by asking questions and reading up on their medications (maybe this is not such a good idea if you have OCD like me). IMO, it all boils down to: how badly is your life being affected by your disorder? I was bad enough that a few side effects were a better option than what I was dealing with. NK

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wrote: "jake" <inva…@invalid.com wrote in message news:kn66bv4osdbnirrfvv944s2q3p5hv98d6g@4ax.com… On Fri, 02 May 2003 23:03:52 GMT, "No kidding!" <nokidd…@NOSPAMria.net wrote: I took Paxil for many years and the first few times I tried to come off of it, I had really *bad* discontinuation symptoms myself- dizziness so bad I’d have to go and lie down, "electric shock" sensations that would go through my body. Even when going down to the minimum dose of 5 mg I would suffer side effects when stopping. I finally went to the http://www.quitpaxil.org/ website and it gave me lots of good advice for weaning from it. I was able to get liquid Paxil and taper off 1 mg at a time (over a period of weeks) and this was the only way I could wean myself off the medication without side effects. If I remember, Effexor gave me side effects, too but not as bad as the Paxil. Antidepressants aren’t candy so I don’t recommend them for minor depression but if you’re sick enough, I still think they’re worth it. They helped me out a lot. sure..with the emphasis on IF you are sick enough with genuine profound depression..and with informed consent. Where the profit motive and a drive to expand markets are the motivation, history shows it takes legal action to compel pharmaceutical companies to provide the information needed for any kind of informed consent worth its name. And as for highpowered TV advertising to entice people to badger an uninformed GP to prescribe for the variety of ailments they claim it suitable for…….criminal prosecution . I have mixed feelings about the TV advertising. On one level, I’m glad people can see there are options to help them. Educating the public is not a bad thing but I totaly agree that medications (for depression and ADHD) are being doled out more often than they should.

Education of the consumer is critical to any kind of informed consent worth the name. The Sales Departments of multinational drug companies are hardly a suitable institution to undertake this task though.

I ‘m not a nurse but I’ve worked in the medical field for the past 27 years and I’m always seeing MD’s prescribe psych meds that have no business doing so (i.e regular GPs and gynecologists). I can’t tell you all the ADHD kids I see coming in for pre-medication work ups that could probably benefit from other options rather than medication but that’s the easiest avenue. I had a friend who was a little down and she went to her GYN doc and asked for an antidepressant and he prescribed Effexor!

how totally irresponsible .It is probably his standard practice,scribbling a script takes little effort.

Despite this, I’m still a firm believer in medication under the right circumstances. I was in bad shape at one time and I probably would be dead or severely incapacitated without it.

One can never know , of course , but in critical situations of genuine need it has been a boon to many. The problem arise withthe commercial pressures to define more and more circumstances as the "right " ones.

Thank goodness I went to a competant psychiatrist and he was willing to work with me when the time came to come off the Paxil.

Indeed Some of them out there do not believe in the discontinuation

symptoms and make their patients go cold turkey. Brutal!

Completely irresponsible and verging on criminal negligence.. They should be forced to educate themselves before being allowed to prescribe them.

Patients also need to take a little responsibility for their own health by asking questions and reading up on their medications (maybe this is not such a good idea if you have OCD like me).

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Yes it can be so easy to be constantly scanning for signs of dire consequences.. They key perhaps lies with a compentant doctor who actually takes th truble to monitor his patients halth , rather than feeling the problem is soved if the patient goes away with a bottle of pills in their hand and doesn’t return.

IMO, it all boils down to: how badly is your life being affected by your disorder?

of course..

I was bad enough that a few side effects were a better option than what I was dealing with.

The fact that you managed to get off the Paxil will be an inspiration to many who despair of ever being able to. As you know if you are familiar with the http://www.quitpaxil.org/ support site there are those whose experiences with the drug are far more horrific than any complaint they may have been prescribed it for. __ Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest, the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life. -Lord Byron http://www.schizoaffective.org/

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which one do you use Great? "Great" <k…@xyz.com

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> news:5HXra.439786$Zo.101653@sccrnsc03… > > I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is > this > > true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? > > TIA

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Which one do you use Great that doesn’t cause it? "Great" <k…@xyz.com

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After eight months without any problem it’s a pretty safe bet. Any impotence I experience is going to be for other reasons. "jake" <inva…@invalid.com

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On Sat, 03 May 2003 10:27:24 GMT, "Roger" <roge…@hotmail.com wrote: There is doubt. It doesn’t cause it in me. It can cause it. well dont tempt fate ..It has not as yet

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Bupropion doesn’t cause it. Ritalin doesn’t cause it. Deprynl also doesn’t cause it. "kevin" <sharkfan1…@NOSPAMaol.com

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> > news:5HXra.439786$Zo.101653@sccrnsc03… > > > I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is

this true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? TIA

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On Sat, 03 May 2003 10:27:24 GMT, "Roger" <roge…@hotmail.com

wrote: There is doubt. It doesn’t cause it in me. It can cause it.

well dont tempt fate ..It has not as yet In response to the original posters query,there is no doubt whatsoever that impotence is a commonly observed adverse reaction, and it is misleading to suggest otherwise Commonly Observed Adverse Reactions: http://www.effexor-xr-side-effects-withdrawal.com/adverse-effects-eff… The most commonly observed adverse events associated with the use of venlafaxine (incidence of 5% or greater) and not seen at an equivalent incidence among placebo-treated patients (i.e., incidence for venlafaxine at least twice that for placebo), derived from the 1% incidence Table III, were asthenia, sweating, nausea, constipation, anorexia, vomiting, somnolence, dry mouth, dizziness nervousness, anxiety, tremor, blurred vision, and abnormal ejaculation/orgasm and impotence in men. __ The long term effects could be far more drastic http://www.healthyplace.com/communities/depression/treatment/antidepr… But perhaps the most troubling problem with the newer drugs is that no one is sure just what their long-term effects might be. There are some new, troubling reports that Effexor may cause tardive dyskinesia, a movement disorder that may be permanent, involving writhing, wormlike movements of the body, lips, and tongue. But many chronically depressed people say they don’t care. They’re willing to pay the price of future uncertainty to buy freedom from depression today.

"Great" <k…@xyz.com wrote in message news:b90428$e7ruh$1@ID-189619.news.dfncis.de… There is no doubt about this fact. It causes impotense. "kevin" <sharkfan1…@NOSPAMaol.com wrote in message news:5HXra.439786$Zo.101653@sccrnsc03… I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is this true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? TIA

"When society turns a blind eye to the dangers of drugs and rushes to embrace a pharmaceutical cure for nearly every condition, there is almost no end to the harm that may result". http://www.schizoaffective.org/ Thomas.J.Moore

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There is doubt. It doesn’t cause it in me. It can cause it. "Great" <k…@xyz.com

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There is no doubt about this fact. It causes impotense. "kevin" <sharkfan1…@NOSPAMaol.com

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On Fri, 02 May 2003 23:03:52 GMT, "No kidding!" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<nokidd…@NOSPAMria.net

wrote: I took Paxil for many years and the first few times I tried to come off of it, I had really *bad* discontinuation symptoms myself- dizziness so bad I’d have to go and lie down, "electric shock" sensations that would go through my body. Even when going down to the minimum dose of 5 mg I would suffer side effects when stopping. I finally went to the http://www.quitpaxil.org/ website and it gave me lots of good advice for weaning from it. I was able to get liquid Paxil and taper off 1 mg at a time (over a period of weeks) and this was the only way I could wean myself off the medication without side effects. If I remember, Effexor gave me side effects, too but not as bad as the Paxil. Antidepressants aren’t candy so I don’t recommend them for minor depression but if you’re sick enough, I still think they’re worth it. They helped me out a lot.

sure..with the emphasis on IF you are sick enough with genuine profound depression..and with informed consent. Where the profit motive and a drive to expand markets are the motivation, history shows it takes legal action to compel pharmaceutical companies to provide the information needed for any kind of informed consent worth its name. And as for highpowered TV advertising to entice people to badger an uninformed GP to prescribe for the variety of ailments they claim it suitable for…….criminal prosecution . Of course in most advanced countries other than the USA , such activities are in fact illegal.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

"jake" <inva…@invalid.com wrote in message news:2qe4bvsohuqflnkqf52m7o7743v1knghcv@4ax.com… On Fri, 2 May 2003 00:22:01 -0500, "Poop Dogg" <nos…@nospam.com wrote: "kevin" wrote in message … Are you sure about this? I thought I’ve seen many posts about how effexor xr makes people a uniuch. I took a 37.5 mg capulse the other day and while it made me feel more motivated, I didn’t have any sexual feelings/thoughts either. This scared me. Try it and see how it affects you. You can always stop taking it if you don’t like the side-effects, Sadly this is not always the case Re: Effexor Withdrawal NIghtmare. Class act lawsuit. Not one told us about this. http://www.pandamedicine.com/rt_health/160-41.html I have been on effexor for years. I haven\’t had any weight gain, on the contrary, it kills my appetite, but I cannot wean myself off it. I get a racing heart, and feel like I am having a heart atack, heart palpatations, pounding heart,pounding in my ears,and hearing loss. I also experience body tremors and convulsion-like body jerks. I also get the \"brain shivers\" but entire BODY SHIVERS as well. These symptoms dissappear when I re-take my dose, but then I am back on the nightmare cycle. No one told me about this, and I don\’t believe the drug company put out a disclaimer regarding withdrawl symptoms(anyone know about that?). I am interested in filing a class-action lawsuit against the drug manufacturer. Anyone who is interested, please contact me @ ceciliari…@aol.com. This is SERIOUS! it’s not like the loss of libido is permanent. "When society turns a blind eye to the dangers of drugs and rushes to embrace a pharmaceutical cure for nearly every condition, there is almost no end to the harm that may result". http://www.schizoaffective.org/ Thomas.J.Moore

"When society turns a blind eye to the dangers of drugs and rushes to embrace a pharmaceutical cure for nearly every condition, there is almost no end to the harm that may result". http://www.schizoaffective.org/ Thomas.J.Moore

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X-No-Archive: Yes On Fri, 02 May 2003 10:41:44 +0100, jake <inva…@invalid.com wrote: <snip Sadly this is not always the case Re: Effexor Withdrawal NIghtmare. Class act lawsuit. Not one told us about this. http://www.pandamedicine.com/rt_health/160-41.html I have been on effexor for years. I haven\’t had any weight gain, on the contrary, it kills my appetite, but I cannot wean myself off it. I get a racing heart, and feel like I am having a heart atack, heart palpatations, pounding heart,pounding in my ears,and hearing loss. I also experience body tremors and convulsion-like body jerks. I also get the \"brain shivers\" but entire BODY SHIVERS as well. These symptoms dissappear when I re-take my dose, but then I am back on the nightmare cycle. No one told me about this, and I don\’t believe the drug company put out a disclaimer regarding withdrawl symptoms(anyone know about that?). I am interested in filing a class-action lawsuit against the drug manufacturer. Anyone who is interested, please contact me @ ceciliari…@aol.com. This is SERIOUS! I had terrible sides from Effexor XR; after only 6 weeks I’d lost 9kg – a lot for someone of my build. Some 5% of people develop anorexia – not something you normally associate with 47 y.o. males, but I got it. I had no energy, no stamina, could barely get out of bed and lost *all* interest in food. If I hadn’t realised what was going on – and a mate hadn’t visited a few times and said I was looking *really* sick & gaunt I may have ended up in hospital or dead. I put a post on the newsgroup and got quite a few emails from people who’ve had terrible side’s from Effexor XR. There is an excellent page run by a woman called Belynda with stories about bad times from Effexor & Effexor XR; the URL is: <http://members.tripod.com/~BWarner/effexor.html. The page is called "Effexor Withdrawal" and gives a brief description of her own Effexor history, as well as comments by people who have had trouble with it – believe it or not, these pages of people’s troubles run for 480-odd pages: quite a few problems.

Oh well it seems to have gone, unfortunately.. I am not too suprised there were so many complaints it is the No 2 drug for withdrawal problems __ Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest, the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life. -Lord Byron http://www.schizoaffective.org/

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I took Paxil for many years and the first few times I tried to come off of it, I had really *bad* discontinuation symptoms myself- dizziness so bad I’d have to go and lie down, "electric shock" sensations that would go through my body. Even when going down to the minimum dose of 5 mg I would suffer side effects when stopping. I finally went to the http://www.quitpaxil.org/ website and it gave me lots of good advice for weaning from it. I was able to get liquid Paxil and taper off 1 mg at a time (over a period of weeks) and this was the only way I could wean myself off the medication without side effects. If I remember, Effexor gave me side effects, too but not as bad as the Paxil. Antidepressants aren’t candy so I don’t recommend them for minor depression but if you’re sick enough, I still think they’re worth it. They helped me out a lot. NK

Is this pretty much normal for coming off Paxil? I took a look at the website you recommended and there seem to be a lot of side effects. I’m asking on behalf of my 10 year old nephew. Today his doctor changed his medication from Paxil to something else (can’t remember – began with an R). He was on 20mg a day and he’s cutting the dose in half for the next three days, then having him take the half dose every other day. His mom is already at the end of her rope and if there are going to be side effects from this, she’s totally unprepared for them.

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I took Paxil for many years and the first few times I tried to come off of it, I had really *bad* discontinuation symptoms myself- dizziness so bad I’d have to go and lie down, "electric shock" sensations that would go through my body. Even when going down to the minimum dose of 5 mg I would suffer side effects when stopping. I finally went to the http://www.quitpaxil.org/ website and it gave me lots of good advice for weaning from it. I was able to get liquid Paxil and taper off 1 mg at a time (over a period of weeks) and this was the only way I could wean myself off the medication without side effects. If I remember, Effexor gave me side effects, too but not as bad as the Paxil. Antidepressants aren’t candy so I don’t recommend them for minor depression but if you’re sick enough, I still think they’re worth it. They helped me out a lot. NK "jake" <inva…@invalid.com

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On Fri, 2 May 2003 00:22:01 -0500, "Poop Dogg" <nos…@nospam.com wrote: "kevin" wrote in message … Are you sure about this? I thought I’ve seen many posts about how

effexor

xr makes people a uniuch. I took a 37.5 mg capulse the other day and

while

it made me feel more motivated, I didn’t have any sexual

feelings/thoughts

either. This scared me. Try it and see how it affects you. You can always stop taking it if you don’t like the side-effects, Sadly this is not always the case Re: Effexor Withdrawal NIghtmare. Class act lawsuit. Not one told us about this. http://www.pandamedicine.com/rt_health/160-41.html I have been on effexor for years. I haven\’t had any weight gain, on the contrary, it kills my appetite, but I cannot wean myself off it. I get a racing heart, and feel like I am having a heart atack, heart palpatations, pounding heart,pounding in my ears,and hearing loss. I also experience body tremors and convulsion-like body jerks. I also get the \"brain shivers\" but entire BODY SHIVERS as well. These symptoms dissappear when I re-take my dose, but then I am back on the nightmare cycle. No one told me about this, and I don\’t believe the drug company put out a disclaimer regarding withdrawl symptoms(anyone know about that?). I am interested in filing a class-action lawsuit against the drug manufacturer. Anyone who is interested, please contact me @ ceciliari…@aol.com. This is SERIOUS! it’s not like the loss of libido is permanent. "When society turns a blind eye to the dangers of drugs and rushes to

embrace a

pharmaceutical cure for nearly every condition, there is almost no end to

the

harm that may result". http://www.schizoaffective.org/ Thomas.J.Moore

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"kevin" wrote in message …

Are you sure about this? I thought I’ve seen many posts about how effexor xr makes people a uniuch. I took a 37.5 mg capulse the other day and while it made me feel more motivated, I didn’t have any sexual feelings/thoughts either. This scared me.

Try it and see how it affects you. You can always stop taking it if you don’t like the side-effects, it’s not like the loss of libido is permanent.

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"kevin" wrote in message … Are you sure about this? I thought I’ve seen many posts about how effexor xr makes people a uniuch. I took a 37.5 mg capulse the other day and while it made me feel more motivated, I didn’t have any sexual feelings/thoughts either. This scared me. Try it and see how it affects you. You can always stop taking it if you don’t like the side-effects,

Sadly this is not always the case Re: Effexor Withdrawal NIghtmare. Class act lawsuit. Not one told us about this. http://www.pandamedicine.com/rt_health/160-41.html I have been on effexor for years. I haven\’t had any weight gain, on the contrary, it kills my appetite, but I cannot wean myself off it. I get a racing heart, and feel like I am having a heart atack, heart palpatations, pounding heart,pounding in my ears,and hearing loss. I also experience body tremors and convulsion-like body jerks. I also get the \"brain shivers\" but entire BODY SHIVERS as well. These symptoms dissappear when I re-take my dose, but then I am back on the nightmare cycle. No one told me about this, and I don\’t believe the drug company put out a disclaimer regarding withdrawl symptoms(anyone know about that?). I am interested in filing a class-action lawsuit against the drug manufacturer. Anyone who is interested, please contact me @ ceciliari…@aol.com. This is SERIOUS! it’s not like the loss of libido

is permanent.

"When society turns a blind eye to the dangers of drugs and rushes to embrace a pharmaceutical cure for nearly every condition, there is almost no end to the harm that may result". http://www.schizoaffective.org/ Thomas.J.Moore

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Prozac didn’t affect my sex drive at all but everyone is different. Taking antidepressants is like a crap shootas far as side effects are concerned. Don’t refuse to take it on the possibility you *might* have a certain side effect because maybe it won’t happen. I’ve tried several, several antidepressants before I found one I was able to stay on for 13 years. I recently weaned off of them but if I need to take them again, I will. I’ve learned to try them out for a few weeks and see what happens before I pass judgement. If the side effects are intolerable, then I try something else. NK "Poop Dogg" <nos…@nospam.com

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true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? Effexor is supposed to be very good in this respect. I take Effexor XR, first 150mg, then 225mg, now 75mg, and I have never had any sexual side effects from it. My doctor said I might notice a delay in orgasm but it never happened. Other anti-depressants, the SSRIs like Prozac, etc. are notorious for the sexual side-effects, users claim they kill the sex drive completely. You should give the Effexor a chance, if it causes sexual problems then switch to Wellbutrin, another antidepressant with few sexual side-effects.

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Has definitely not caused me any sexual side effects. "No kidding!" <nokidd…@NOSPAMria.net

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I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is this true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? TIA

Many antidepressant, Effexor among them, can cause all sorts of sexual dysfunction. There are some ways around it. http://panicdisorder.about.com/cs/medsdysfunction Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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… I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is this true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees?

Effexor is supposed to be very good in this respect. I take Effexor XR, first 150mg, then 225mg, now 75mg, and I have never had any sexual side effects from it. My doctor said I might notice a delay in orgasm but it never happened. Other anti-depressants, the SSRIs like Prozac, etc. are notorious for the sexual side-effects, users claim they kill the sex drive completely. You should give the Effexor a chance, if it causes sexual problems then switch to Wellbutrin, another antidepressant with few sexual side-effects.

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Are you sure about this? I thought I’ve seen many posts about how effexor xr makes people a uniuch. I took a 37.5 mg capulse the other day and while it made me feel more motivated, I didn’t have any sexual feelings/thoughts either. This scared me. "Poop Dogg" <nos…@nospam.com

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"kevin" wrote in message <5HXra.439786$Zo.101653@sccrnsc03… I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is

this

true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? Effexor is supposed to be very good in this respect. I take Effexor XR, first 150mg, then 225mg, now 75mg, and I have never had any sexual side effects from it. My doctor said I might notice a delay in orgasm but it never happened. Other anti-depressants, the SSRIs like Prozac, etc. are notorious for the sexual side-effects, users claim they kill the sex drive completely. You should give the Effexor a chance, if it causes sexual problems then switch to Wellbutrin, another antidepressant with few sexual side-effects.

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I heard that Effexor XR causes guys to be impotent as a side effect, is this true? Is there anyone here that agrees or disagrees? TIA

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Don’t know much about Effexor, but isn’t that an SNRI, like Strattera? I’m not sure. I can tell you that I’m currently taking Celexa (which is an SSRI), and that has had some pretty negative sexual side effects. Like taking an hour to masturbate (delayed ejaculation is a side effect). Sheesh. I’m also taking Strattera (again, an SNRI), which I started a few weeks after the Celexa, and I can’t say that it has made the sexual side effects any better or worse. The only anti-depressent that I’m aware of that doesn’t seem to have any negative sexual side effects is Wellbutrin. But it can make you feel jittery, which can make any anxiety problems worse. Mike "kevin" <sharkfan1…@NOSPAMaol.com

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Most ADs including Effexor frequently cause sexual dysfunction. However it’s very individualistic — some men aren’t affected by some drugs, or only at higher dosages. But as a general statement, yes most ADs affect many men this way. The exceptions are Mirtazapine (Remeron), and Bupropion (Wellbutrin). — Joe D.

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It definitely caused me sexual side effects NK "kevin" <sharkfan1…@NOSPAMaol.com

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How many here are at least 50 years old? If you are what anti-depressant are you using and have you been using it since turning 50 years young? I know this probably doesn’t make much sense to lots of people in here–but I’m trying to find out if one medicine is prescribed more for older folks? We live in a world of numbers and age of course bing the biggest factor of all in the numbers "game". (Another example of numbers that I read is that 66% of all alcoholics who have quit drinking, have mental problems of some sort) Even car insurance companies use age in figuring their fees for insurance–another number. What is your income level–another number. So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here. Thanks Much and allways remember in all you do this one very important factor: "If it doesn’t fit, You MUST acquit"

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Dan: I am 51, and while I stopped taking meds this fall, I was previously on Celexa 20 mg for 3 years and Paxil 20 mg and then 30 mg for one year. – Anne

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I am 54 and am currently on *imipramine* and Xanax and they work well for me. In the first 18 years or so of my PD which started in 1968 when I was 20 I was only on a benzo. Around age 42 or so I needed to add an AD which was *clomipramine*, another TCA (and one that is much researched and often prescribed in Europe while imipramine seems more of an American first choice TCA). At some point clomipramine seemed to *poop out* on me and I tried SSRI’s and even the RIMA *moclobemide* (always together with a benzo) which worked but I seem to respond just a bit better to TCA’s. In my case I don’t think any of this has anything to do with age. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I’m 57, and have been on the TCA dothiepin (prothiaden) for some years – though recently discontinued it, and have felt no ill effect from that: therapy alone is now enough for me. Before the TCA, I was on Paxil, which didn’t agree with me – too many side effects. If I needed an AD again, I would go back to dothiepin. -David-

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Hi Dan! I’m 57 and I’ve been on Paxil for about 4 – 5 years. I only require 10 mg. I seem to be very sensitive to meds, but I don’t know if it’s due to age or not. Even that amount, combined with .5 mg Ativan twice a day makes me lethargic. Dot

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How many here are at least 50 years old? If you are what anti-depressant are you using and have you been using it since turning 50 years young? I know this probably doesn’t make much sense to lots of people in here–but I’m trying to find out if one medicine is prescribed more for older folks? We live in a world of numbers and age of course bing the biggest factor of all in the numbers "game". (Another example of numbers that I read is that 66% of all alcoholics who have quit drinking, have mental problems of some sort) Even car insurance companies use age in figuring their fees for insurance–another number. What is your income level–another number. So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here. Thanks Much and allways remember in all you do this one very important factor: "If it doesn’t fit, You MUST acquit" I am 54 and am currently on *imipramine* and Xanax and they work well for me. In the first 18 years or so of my PD which started in 1968 when I was 20 I was only on a benzo. Around age 42 or so I needed to add an AD which was *clomipramine*, another TCA (and one that is much researched and often prescribed in Europe while imipramine seems more of an American first choice TCA). At some point clomipramine seemed to *poop out* on me and I tried SSRI’s and even the RIMA *moclobemide* (always together with a benzo) which worked but I seem to respond just a bit better to TCA’s. In my case I don’t think any of this has anything to do with age. Philip Thanks Philip, Is that "imipramine" the generic name or the other name form.

It’s the generic name. Most common brand name: *Tofranil*. I should buy a medical book to look these up.

You can find them on the net at Arthur’s excellent dictionary at http://www.anxiety-panic.com Is it taken daily and in what measurements does it come.

Here the smalles dosage is 25 mg (and I also mean the pill is so small that one can hardly cut it in half). In the US tabs 0f 10 mg are available. It is taken daily, like with all AD’s it’s a matter of finding out whether taking it in the AM or in the PM agrees best with you. I actually take part of it in the AM and part of it in the PM, don’t really remember why Like all TCA’s is has a large therapeutic window, from 75 mg to, say, 225 mg. Too high TCA doses are toxic though which angain is individual and can, if necessary, being measured by blood work. (Just as a side note, my regular MD, told me yesterday–that I sould ask my psycharist to switch me to another medicine, when I told him I was no lonfer taking celexa-because of excessive sleepiness).

If that sleepiness bothers you too much it may be a good idea. I am going to ask my Pdoc about it–but I’m not so sure he’ll put me on it anyway.

Another good choice may be Effexor, a newer med which, like TCA’s but in a somewhat different way, targets both serotonin and norepinephrine receptors. The different types of doctors–if they do one thing–it is protect their territory–when you ask for a med. change.

I have been rather lucky in this dept. as my pdoc actually agreed to my own choice of meds. Also you MAY be right about age making no difference, but if so–then it’s one of those very RARE things where age doesn’t count.

This is a big *YMMV*, I was strictly talking about myself. Medication for the elderly (but we’re not yet there when we are in our fifties or early sixties IMO) can sometimes be different (as in smaller benzo doses, for instance, or no TCA’s when having cardiovascular problems etc.etc.) Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you?

Zoloft for anxiety and depression, Ativan when needed, and Concerta to keep me peppy. Take care, Liz

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So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here. I’m 58 and started Zoloft for depression 10 years ago (when I was 48). My dose of Zoloft depends on whether I am depressed or not. I also take a TCA called desipramine to boost the effects of the Zoloft. Zoloft works well for me. I take Klonopin for anxiety/panic/agoraphobia. Chip

Thank you each and every one . As for zoloft–I just could not take that–it kept me awake. Celexa–the opposite. Basically–I can use xanax for attacks of anxiety–with no problem, but I would definately like to try something else. Good suggestions here–will he write me something different is the question.

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I am posting this for LM being his post never showed up – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ubject: If You are at least 50 Years of age and on anti-depressants How many here are at least 50 years old? If you are what anti-depressant are you using and have you been using it since turning 50 years young? I know this probably doesn’t make much sense to lots of people in here–but I’m trying to find out if one medicine is prescribed more for older folks? We live in a world of numbers and age of course bing the biggest factor of all in the numbers "game". (Another example of numbers that I read is that 66% of all alcoholics who have quit drinking, have mental problems of some sort) Even car insurance companies use age in figuring their fees for insurance–another number. What is your income level–another number. So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here. Thanks Much and allways remember in all you do this one very important factor: "If it doesn’t fit, You MUST acquit"

the only time age is a factor in prescribing any medication is if the patient is geriatric in nature, or has some compromised abilities in metabolizing some types of drugs-usually the longer half life drugs like valium, klonopin and prozac etc… other then that profile of patient and drug are used as a methodology for prescribing LM ~*~I may not be perfectly beautiful, I may not be perfectly wise, I may not be perfectly obedient, but I am perfectly me~*~

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How many here are at least 50 years old? If you are what anti-depressant are you using and have you been using it since turning 50 years young? I know this probably doesn’t make much sense to lots of people in here–but I’m trying to find out if one medicine is prescribed more for older folks? We live in a world of numbers and age of course bing the biggest factor of all in the numbers "game". (Another example of numbers that I read is that 66% of all alcoholics who have quit drinking, have mental problems of some sort) Even car insurance companies use age in figuring their fees for insurance–another number. What is your income level–another number. So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here. Thanks Much and allways remember in all you do this one very important factor: "If it doesn’t fit, You MUST acquit" I am 54 and am currently on *imipramine* and Xanax and they work well for me. In the first 18 years or so of my PD which started in 1968 when I was 20 I was only on a benzo. Around age 42 or so I needed to add an AD which was *clomipramine*, another TCA (and one that is much researched and often prescribed in Europe while imipramine seems more of an American first choice TCA). At some point clomipramine seemed to *poop out* on me and I tried SSRI’s and even the RIMA *moclobemide* (always together with a benzo) which worked but I seem to respond just a bit better to TCA’s. In my case I don’t think any of this has anything to do with age. Philip

Thanks Philip, Is that "imipramine" the generic name or the other name form. I should buy a medical book to look these up. Is it taken daily and in what measurements does it come. (Just as a side note, my regular MD, told me yesterday–that I sould ask my psycharist to switch me to another medicine, when I told him I was no lonfer taking celexa-because of excessive sleepiness). I am going to ask my Pdoc about it–but I’m not so sure he’ll put me on it anyway. The different types of doctors–if they do one thing–it is protect their territory–when you ask for a med. change. Also you MAY be right about age making no difference, but if so–then it’s one of those very RARE things where age doesn’t count. Thanks much for your comment.

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So what I’m asking here is simple. 50 years of age and up: what anti-depressant are you taking and how is it working for you? Now if no one replies, then I know that I’m the oldie in here.

I’m 58 and started Zoloft for depression 10 years ago (when I was 48). My dose of Zoloft depends on whether I am depressed or not. I also take a TCA called desipramine to boost the effects of the Zoloft. Zoloft works well for me. I take Klonopin for anxiety/panic/agoraphobia. Chip

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Folks, I’ve been on the Paxil for about five weeks now, feeling better but really experiencing the sexual side effects of the Paxil. I have heard that Serzone gives you all the benefits of Paxil and No sexual side effects. Can anyone respond both pro and con for switching to Serzone. I’d like to get my drive/libido back. Also if you have made the switch from Paxil how did you do it, were you weaned off the Paxil slowly or just a cold turkey switch to the serzone. Thanks in advance for any and all responses. — Dan ICQ 108553906

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I’ve been on the Paxil for about five weeks now, feeling better but really experiencing the sexual side effects of the Paxil. I have heard that Serzone gives you all the benefits of Paxil and No sexual side effects. Can anyone respond both pro and con for switching to Serzone. I’d like to get my drive/libido back. Also if you have made the switch from Paxil how did you do it, were you weaned off the Paxil slowly or just a cold turkey switch to the serzone.

My doctor switched me from paxil to serzone just before new year’s. No weaning — quit paxil one day, started serzone the next. I can definitely attest to the fact that serzone doesn’t depress libido the way paxil did. However, I’m not as certain that the serzone is as effective as paxil was in controlling anxiety. I *do* know that I’m prepared to stick with the serzone….. — Tom

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I have had no sexual side effects as a result of taking Serzone. It has also gotten rid of my insomnia. I took Paxil for one day and it freaked me out!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been on the Paxil for about five weeks now, feeling better but really experiencing the sexual side effects of the Paxil. I have heard that Serzone gives you all the benefits of Paxil and No sexual side effects. Can anyone respond both pro and con for switching to Serzone. I’d like to get my drive/libido back. Also if you have made the switch from Paxil how did you do it, were you weaned off the Paxil slowly or just a cold turkey switch to the serzone. My doctor switched me from paxil to serzone just before new year’s. No weaning — quit paxil one day, started serzone the next. I can definitely attest to the fact that serzone doesn’t depress libido the way paxil did. However, I’m not as certain that the serzone is as effective as paxil was in controlling anxiety. I *do* know that I’m prepared to stick with the serzone….. — Tom

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Danny, I didn’t go from Paxil to Serzone but did go Zoloft-Wellbutrin-Serzone, which I now have been on for about five months. With the Wellbutrin I ramped off, and then began the "starter pack" of Serzone. But even the lowest dosage I found intolerable at first – it upset my stomach and made me feel like I had drank ten cups of coffee. I had to break the beginning pills in half to make it comfortable and move up from there. Once you’re on it it’s fine, but it’s bumpy getting there. As far as libido or sexual side effects there were none . . . . at first. However (and this could just be me, obviously) at about the four month mark I did start to have problems, similar to what the Zoloft was doing. It disperses my concentration to the point where it’s very difficult to "finish" in bed. I don’t know why it took this long to kick in, but it did. I’m currently at 150mg twice a day, and at one point my doc tried to increase it to 400 total. That DIDN’T work, made me feel like a zombie and totally screwed with my physical coordination, so I went back to 300. But I’m seriously thinking of ramping off it entirely, not just because of the sexual problem but other side effects as well. I’ll call my doc and talk about it. Good luck to you, however, and don’t take my experience as a negative for trying Serzone. I’ve noticed on the other meds many times I have an unusual reaction which just proves we all react differently to some degree. Wayne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Folks, I’ve been on the Paxil for about five weeks now, feeling better but really experiencing the sexual side effects of the Paxil. I have heard that Serzone gives you all the benefits of Paxil and No sexual side effects. Can anyone respond both pro and con for switching to Serzone. I’d like to get my drive/libido back. Also if you have made the switch from Paxil how did you do it, were you weaned off the Paxil slowly or just a cold turkey switch to the serzone. Thanks in advance for any and all responses. — Dan ICQ 108553906

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Does anyone know of a good med or combination of meds for social anxiety and depression. I was on paxil for 6 months and gained 50 lbs and felt like I was on sleeping pills. It worked great except for the unbearable side effects. Zoloft made me aggressive and mean. Serzone made me confused and not able to think straight at work. I’m on wellbutrin now with ativan, but the wellbutrin makes me too anxious. Anyone have any suggestions that have worked for them? The main things is that I cannot gain any more weight!

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Perhaps try adding in a little Celexa to what you’re already on? I haven’t used it, but from what I hear, once you get used to it, it seems to be the most side effect free SSRI, and many report weight management okay with it. –Frel. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anyone know of a good med or combination of meds for social anxiety and depression.

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Does anyone know of a good med or combination of meds for social anxiety and depression. I was on paxil for 6 months and gained 50 lbs and felt like I was on sleeping pills. It worked great except for the unbearable side effects. Zoloft made me aggressive and mean. Serzone made me confused and not able to think straight at work. I’m on wellbutrin now with ativan, but the wellbutrin makes me too anxious. Anyone have any suggestions that have worked for them? The main things is that I cannot gain any more weight!

Dear Babydoll, It is almost impossible for anyone to "know" what med or med combo will work for you without the side-effects you are trying so hard to avoid. That is the unfortunate part of meds, you just don`t know what will work unless you go on them, it is all trial and error. There is one thing that is quite effective for Social anxiety and it has no side-effects , and that is cognitive behavioral therapy. Take care Jackie ~*~I am the master in my fate; I am the captain of my soul~*~

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Thanks, but I do take it at bedtime…. do I need another med?

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I catnap for about 2-3 hours and then I get going..

Hi Lisa, I used to have the same problem so now I take it at bedtime and I don’t have that problem anymore. Priscilla Remove NOSPAM when replying

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I was curious just how much sleep a 34 year old woman needs, I started taking Zoloft in Jan., and want to sleep all morning…which is not good when you have preschoolers at home. I work 2nd shift, so I do not get home from work and into bed until midnight.. and then I get up at 6:30 with the daughter who goes to school. After she leaves, I turn on the tv on PBS for the 4 yr old and I catnap for about 2-3 hours and then I get going.. the good news is that I can finally sleep at night when I want to, however I am still needing more sleep than I can get at night. My Zoloft dose is 100mg… my next appointment is March 24, any suggestions? Thanks }i{ Lisa

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I don’t take Zoloft but the meds I am on tend to make me sleep lots and lots. I guess our best course of action is to complain to the doc about sleeping so much. I don’t mind the sleeping so much as being tired all the time. I guess we need a med adjustment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I was curious just how much sleep a 34 year old woman needs, I started taking Zoloft in Jan., and want to sleep all morning…which is not good when you have preschoolers at home. I work 2nd shift, so I do not get home from work and into bed until midnight.. and then I get up at 6:30 with the daughter who goes to school. After she leaves, I turn on the tv on PBS for the 4 yr old and I catnap for about 2-3 hours and then I get going.. the good news is that I can finally sleep at night when I want to, however I am still needing more sleep than I can get at night. My Zoloft dose is 100mg… my next appointment is March 24, any suggestions? Thanks }i{ Lisa

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writes: You shouldn’t drink on meds at all.

This isn’t necessarily true (unless you’re an alcoholic of course, in which case you probably shouldn’t drink at all, meds or no meds), but it’s probably better not to drink on meds if the combination seems to cause bad side effects. Also, it’s important to keep your drinking moderate; if you have trouble limiting how much you drink, talk to your doctor about it. There are prescription drugs that are very dangerous to mix with alcohol (e.g., the barbiturates), but these are not used for panic and anxiety today. One thing that can happen, especially with tricyclics, is they can increase the effects of alcohol, so it’s like you’re drinking much more. The shaking and twitching the morning after drinking sounds like maybe a "rebound" effect from when the alcohol wears off. So anyway, you might want to try limiting it to one drink (i.e., one beer or one glass of wine) a night and see if that helps. If it doesn’t, try half a drink. If that doesn’t work, try no drinking at all. It’s a shame to have to make these changes in our lives but if it’s for your health, it’s worth it, right? I had twitches ("fasciculations") when I was taking Nardil, and a couple of meds including Nardil (and some of the tricyclics) have exacerbated my essential tremor. They’re common side effects and don’t mean that you’re brain damaged or anything. -elizabeth

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Hi I have been on Tricyclics (Dothiepin) for about 8 weeks now and am troubled by a slight tremble and occasional twitches. This seems to be worsened the day after I have had something to drink. It also seems to be worse during the day. Now I can’t be sure if these are just my anxiety symptoms or the medication or the combination of meds and alchohol. Either way, I never used to twitch! Has anyone had similar experiences with Tricyclics?

I don’t know about Dothiepin, but the package insert for my amitriptyline (another tricyclic) states definitely that one should not drink while on the medication. I developed some twitching when I was on Paxil. I still experience it occasionally. My doctor isn’t sure whether it’s a side effect, a result of my tension, or a combination of both. Either way, I don’t like it; one of the chief focuses of my anxiety is my health, especially that of my brain. I had the worst time earlier in the year trying to convince myself that, no, I did _not_ have Jakob- Creuzfeldt disease (the human version of "mad cow disease," bovine spongiform epilepsy). Every time I twitch, or have the slightest lapse in memory, I fret about it. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Phil, How much alcohol are you drinking? I used to drink to ease my depression and PD, and eventually I became addicted to alcohol. Had to go to AA to stay sober. Been sober 21 years now. I didn’t do it, God did. I used to have a mild tremor in my hands in the AM, and other people noticed it and commented. They also wondered why my eyes looked red. If you want to email about it, and ask any questions, I’m available. I’m always available for my brothers and sisters that have this problem. Chip Alchohol You shouldn’t drink on meds at all. Xanman

By drinking, I mean a couple of beers or maybe a couple of glasses of wine. Nothing too much. All I noticed was that I trembled and twitched more after having drunk a little bit the night before phil

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You shouldn’t drink on meds at all. Xanman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I have been on Tricyclics (Dothiepin) for about 8 weeks now and am troubled by a slight tremble and occasional twitches. This seems to be worsened the day after I have had something to drink. It also seems to be worse during the day. Now I can’t be sure if these are just my anxiety symptoms or the medication or the combination of meds and alchohol. Either way, I never used to twitch! Has anyone had similar experiences with Tricyclics? Phil

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Phil, How much alcohol are you drinking? I used to drink to ease my depression and PD, and eventually I became addicted to alcohol. Had to go to AA to stay sober. Been sober 21 years now. I didn’t do it, God did. I used to have a mild tremor in my hands in the AM, and other people noticed it and commented. They also wondered why my eyes looked red. If you want to email about it, and ask any questions, I’m available. I’m always available for my brothers and sisters that have this problem. Chip Alchohol You shouldn’t drink on meds at all. Xanman

Hi I have been on Tricyclics (Dothiepin) for about 8 weeks now and am troubled by a slight tremble and occasional twitches. This seems to be worsened the day after I have had something to drink. It also seems to be worse during the day. Now I can’t be sure if these are just my anxiety symptoms or the medication or the combination of meds and alchohol. Either way, I never used to twitch! Has anyone had similar experiences with Tricyclics? Phil

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Hi I have been on Tricyclics (Dothiepin) for about 8 weeks now and am troubled by a slight tremble and occasional twitches. This seems to be worsened the day after I have had something to drink. It also seems to be worse during the day. Now I can’t be sure if these are just my anxiety symptoms or the medication or the combination of meds and alchohol. Either way, I never used to twitch! Has anyone had similar experiences with Tricyclics? Phil

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ok, i’m back on zoloft and waiting for the effects to kick in. the last time around, i think it actually precipitated something close to a panic attack. i’m not so sure i’m looking forward to the other side of the pendulum either. anyone else get this? Dawn. International student Second year Media Studies RMIT University, Australia (Melbourne) "Maybe I -will- become a writer, and maybe I won’t. I don’t know. I haven’t read the last page yet." - Julia Salinger, Party of Five

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Dawn, Several SSRIs cause a feeling of panic, jumpiness, and impending doom until they "kick" in. Paxil nearly wiped me out when I went on it. Luckily (?) I was in the hospital when I was put on Zoloft a few years ago. Anyhow, after about 3 weeks of feeling like shit, the drug kicked in and I did feel a bit better. My Best, ~Robbi~ "oo" http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7160 for all of your bipolar needs. Serving bipolars since 1996! The sex organ is a terrible thing to waste! P.S. The last remark on my sig line is dedicated to the sexual dysfunction that occurs in 25% of people taking antidepressants. The 25% figure is based on medical information which is suspect.

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What are the side effects of Zoloft? Guess I should be prepared for them Kimber

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