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Anyone know of a home supplier of Flovent and Serevent that bills through MEDICARE. Thank you!

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Oh you poor soul.  No one should have the daily pain that you have.  Does your doctor ever tell you about anti- seizure drugs like Neurontin, etc.?  I was having daily headaches (always started at 5:00 p.m.).  I am also bipolar and when my psychiatrist prescribed Neurontin and ramped me up to 800 mg four times a day, the headaches mysteriously went away.  They started getting less painful until one day I noticed, they were just gone.  I do have the beginning of migraines about once a month, or when I get blasted by loud noise or bright flickering lights, but with the Neurontin, a Bellamine-S and Esgic Plus pretty much nip it in the bud. Neurontin carries very few side effects, maybe you will sleep a lot better, and the few it does have. your body gets used to. I told my doctor once, "We who have migraines–if you would offer us a million dollars or to never have another headache, we would take the never have another headache."  His face showed that he finally understood our plight. I sincerely hope you can find something that works for you.  BTW, the Neurontin is good for nerve pain other places, too.  You poor thing.  You don’t deserve this. Val in Boise

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Chuck,     I am  in the same situation I have had nonstop pain in my head too I’m on my 9th year of this.I am 30, and when I had my 3rd{last} child afterward I just started having pain that was sheer h*!!. It just kept intensifying,.I am usually  pretty nauseas for a lot of the time. I am taking Phenerghan for it. I am so sensitive to many medications. Ones that don’t work,or makeme worse  etc. . I have pain through my whole body. I have Fibromyalgia, Where you hurt at the pressure points located throughout your body. I have Neuropathy as well which is like going around droppingthings, or mylegs just give out, when walking.  I alsohave Rheaumatoid  Arthritis I can tell whenwe are going toget bad weather. Because ofmy body hurting so bad.  You mightbeable to doa google search and type in  diferent words, ya know like Chronic Pain.. Here  is a link if you’re interested inchecking it out. Its not only for people suffering, but for the ones that see them and feel bad about it. Their’ friend or family member or anyone else. It is a wonderful support group. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chronicpainstories/   I hope that things start getting better for everyone!!!  Ican’t wait till we get warm weather again.  We are getting ready tobuild an edition on to our trailer. When we get done it will look just like an average house. Wegot some footers dug a little. I am notgoing to be able todo too much, because ofbeing disabled. I’m under drs.orders to not drive. That sucks. I get auras where everything gets pitch black or blinding excruciating bright white. Imostly wear  sunglasses. So depressed. But hey I’m dealing withit. Starting to stand up , take action. For ourrights,For  the DEA to quit sticking their noses where they don’t belong. It is all of ourdutyto speak up. They are trying totake pain medicine away from everyone suffering to the point of needing toget treated by drs. Take care Chuck, and everyone else reading this. A friend of mine has had an intense headache for the last 3 years – it varies in intensity, but on a scale from 1 – 10 he’s averaging a 7. It started suddenly and never stops. He often has attacks (3 or 4 a week) where the headache quickly get worse, and he passes out from the pain and is totally unresponsive. Before this happens, he usually complains that his arm hurts. He’s gone to tonnes of doctors – neurologists, dieticians, psychiatrists, accupuncture, tried diets to eliminate food groups and allergens, had MRI’s and cat scans and spinal taps. Tried all sorts of drugs –  morphine and other pain killers, anti-siezure, etc. Nothing has helped and no one has any idea what’s going on. He’s healthy otherwise and very rarely had headaches before this one. Anyone have any similar experiences, or helpful suggestions? Chuck A friend of mine has had an intense headache for the last 3 years – it varies in intensity, but on a scale from 1 – 10 he’s averaging a 7. It started suddenly and never stops. He often has attacks (3 or 4 a week) where the headache quickly get worse, and he passes out from the pain and is totally unresponsive. Before this happens, he usually complains that his arm hurts. He’s gone to tonnes of doctors – neurologists, dieticians, psychiatrists, accupuncture, tried diets to eliminate food groups and allergens, had MRI’s and cat scans and spinal taps. Tried all sorts of drugs –  morphine and other pain killers, anti-siezure, etc. Nothing has helped and no one has any idea what’s going on. He’s healthy otherwise and very rarely had headaches before this one. Anyone have any similar experiences, or helpful suggestions? Chuck A friend of mine has had an intense headache for the last 3 years – it varies in intensity, but on a scale from 1 – 10 he’s averaging a 7. It started suddenly and never stops. He often has attacks (3 or 4 a week) where the headache quickly get worse, and he passes out from the pain and is totally unresponsive. Before this happens, he usually complains that his arm hurts. He’s gone to tonnes of doctors – neurologists, dieticians, psychiatrists, accupuncture, tried diets to eliminate food groups and allergens, had MRI’s and cat scans and spinal taps. Tried all sorts of drugs –  morphine and other pain killers, anti-siezure, etc. Nothing has helped and no one has any idea what’s going on. He’s healthy otherwise and very rarely had headaches before this one. Anyone have any similar experiences, or helpful suggestions?

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Neurontin carries very few side effects, maybe you will sleep a lot better, and the few it does have. your body gets used to.

Hi Val, I too have fibromyalgia and at one point my doc prescribed neurontin, it seems to be the drug of choice for prevention and control of fms symptoms. However, recently there were 2 class action lawsuit against the manufacturers of Neurontin.  It seems that one of the side effects of this drug is suicidal (or homicidal depending on your state of mind I guess) tendencies.  since one of the problems of fms is major clinical depression it is something that shouldn’t be taken lightly.  I’d talk to your doc about weighing the benefits. The second lawsuit has to do with the fact that 80% of the neurontin prescriptions were for conditions that the drug was not approved for.  I’m including a statement here about that.  You can also do a search for neurontin lawsuit and read a little more about it. Hate to be the bearer of bad news Good Luck, Karen Neurontin lawsuit Neurontin – Neurontin was approved for sale in the mid-1990s as a treatment for epileptic seizures. However it is believed that approximately 80 percent of all Neurontin prescriptions were filled for unapproved medical conditions. Neurontin is also believed to be linked to suicidal behavior. It is believed that Parke-Davis which was acquired by Pfizer in 2000 had a systematic strategy to market and promote Neurontin for untested uses, such as chronic pain, bipolar disorder and migraine. It is not illegal for a doctor to prescribe a drug for unapproved conditions, however it is illegal for a drug company to market a medication for unapproved uses. In July 2003, Dateline broadcasted an investigation which accused Parke-Davis of deliberately falsifying medical information about Neurontin so doctors would prescribe the drug to treat "off-label" conditions. State and Federal prosecutors have launched investigations into the allegedly illegal marketing of Neurontin. In its year-long investigation, Dateline interviewed a former Parke-Davis scientist who alleges company officials encouraged him to persuade physicians to prescribe Neurontin for a number of disorders, including attention deficit disorder and bipolar disease, even though there was minimal preliminary data indicating that Neurontin could help patients with those diseases. In May 2003, The US attorney’s office in Boston said in court documents that the drug company Parke-Davis, now Pfizer, gave illegal kickbacks to doctors, including trips to Puerto Rico and tickets to the 1996 Summer Olympics, to prescribe what has become the nation’s best-selling anticonvulsant, Neurontin. Below is a list of the unapproved conditions that Neurontin was marketed to treat: The 11 illegally promoted unapproved uses for Neurontin are: *Bipolar Disorder *Pain Syndromes, Peripheral Neuropathy, and Diabetic Neuropathy *Treatment of Epilepsy alone (as monotherapy) *Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD) *Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) *Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS) *Trigeminal Neuralgia *Post-Hepatic Neuralgia (PHN) *Essential Tremor Periodic Limb Movement *Migraine *Drug and Alcohol Withdrawal Seizures

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UnfortunatelyVal,   I   am  already on it. I take 1800 mgs. aday,, No help from it.  Thanks though. I’m gladto hearthat they help you  some. Take Care, migraine momma – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Oh you poor soul.  No one should have the daily pain that you have.  Does your doctor ever tell you about anti- seizure drugs like Neurontin, etc.?  I was having daily headaches (always started at 5:00 p.m.).  I am also bipolar and when my psychiatrist prescribed Neurontin and ramped me up to 800 mg four times a day, the headaches mysteriously went away.  They started getting less painful until one day I noticed, they were just gone.  I do have the beginning of migraines about once a month, or when I get blasted by loud noise or bright flickering lights, but with the Neurontin, a Bellamine-S and Esgic Plus pretty much nip it in the bud. Neurontin carries very few side effects, maybe you will sleep a lot better, and the few it does have. your body gets used to. I told my doctor once, "We who have migraines–if you would offer us a million dollars or to never have another headache, we would take the never have another headache."  His face showed that he finally understood our plight. I sincerely hope you can find something that works for you.  BTW, the Neurontin is good for nerve pain other places, too.  You poor thing.  You don’t deserve this. Val in Boise

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LEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! : hilip (indeed, it’s that time of the month again bloating, water retention and boobs that feel like they are being twisted in a vise. Probably breaking out with a few pimples as well? ) Jackie ~*~Would you respect my mind more if it bounced gently when I walked?~*~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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((((((((((((Tony))))))))))))) Don’t be sorry for being absent.  (I know I do the same thing…so slap me) I hope you feel better…because that is what’s most important (I can give advice, but can’t take it…so slap me again)  :-) Hang in there, hun…and I hope you’re feeling ALL better soon. Hugs, Gigglz

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I feel like I’m finally making progress against this sinus infection but today my anxiety has been rising. a) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling withdrawal. b) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling "inflamed". c) Getting better finally and getting my energy back. d) Getting better and now realizing that my Effexor dose     is too high. I’ll let you know how I feel in the morning. Sorry for being absent today. Tony — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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LEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! : hilip (indeed, it’s that time of the month again bloating, water retention and boobs that feel like they are being twisted in a vise. Probably breaking out with a few pimples as well? )

LOL! So glad to meet someone who *understands*… P. Jackie ~*~Would you respect my mind more if it bounced gently when I walked?~*~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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PLEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES!

Yes, dear. I understand. Right. Ah-huh. Sorry. Would it help if I whipped myself?  Or jumped off the roof onto my head? What?   OK, I’ll just keep my mouth shut. Chip   ~holding both hands over BIG mouth~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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PLEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! Yes, dear. I understand. Right. Ah-huh. Sorry. Would it help if I whipped myself?  Or jumped off the roof onto my head?

We won’t know until you try P(MS) — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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(((Tony))) Hope you figure out what is happening and feel better soon. Take care, Liz

*I feel like I’m finally making progress against this sinus *infection but today my anxiety has been rising. * * *a) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling withdrawal. *b) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling "inflamed". *c) Getting better finally and getting my energy back. *d) Getting better and now realizing that my Effexor dose *    is too high. * *I’ll let you know how I feel in the morning. * *Sorry for being absent today. * *Tony * *– *The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm * — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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PLEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! Yes, dear. I understand. Right. Ah-huh. Sorry. Would it help if I whipped myself?  Or jumped off the roof onto my head? We won’t know until you try P(MS)

Good one, P. Chip  :^) — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Philip, Chocolate…run for chocolate…lol! smiles, Elise

Oh dear, I *love* chocolate, it’s the single best thing ever invented. Unfortunately I have to *lose* weight, not gain any…. P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry you are feeling anxious and irritable today. Are you sure you aren`t PMS`ing? I think all the men on ASAP-M have PMS along with the women. It’s very contagious! Chip  :^) PLEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! Philip (indeed, it’s that time of the month again — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I feel like I’m finally making progress against this sinus infection but today my anxiety has been rising. a) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling withdrawal. b) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling "inflamed". c) Getting better finally and getting my energy back. d) Getting better and now realizing that my Effexor dose     is too high. I’ll let you know how I feel in the morning. Sorry for being absent today. Tony — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Tony, Good to hear your sinus problem is starting to get better but the rising anxiety doesn’t sound good.   have no idea of why your anxiety is rising but hope it dissipates and you are feeling lots better today. Please let us know how you are doing today… smiles, Elise

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I go for C Hope you feel better tomorrow ! Your friend Anna — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hope you soon feel better, Tony!! MikeH

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I feel like I’m finally making progress against this sinus infection but today my anxiety has been rising. a) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling withdrawal. b) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling "inflamed". c) Getting better finally and getting my energy back. d) Getting better and now realizing that my Effexor dose     is too high. I’ll let you know how I feel in the morning. Sorry for being absent today. Tony I go for C Hope you feel better tomorrow ! Your friend Anna

I slept on the question and now I know that I’m still sick.  The Medrol had me feeling pretty good while I was on the high dose but now I need to take ibuprofen to relax my nervous system. I need a vacation from this sickness I’m going bananas!!! Your friend, Tony — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, Tony, Good to hear your sinus problem is starting to get better but the rising anxiety doesn’t sound good.   have no idea of why your anxiety is rising but hope it dissipates and you are feeling lots better today. Please let us know how you are doing today… smiles, Elise

I’m still sick and my nervous system feels sick. I am coming out of the brain fog and maybe that is making me more aware of how sick my body feels. I took some ibuprofen last night and that helped.  I’ll do it again this morning. Thanks, Tony — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Sorry you are feeling anxious and irritable today. Are you sure you aren`t PMS`ing? I think all the men on ASAP-M have PMS along with the women. It’s very contagious! Chip  :^)

PLEASE STOP NAGGING ALL THE TIME, IT’S GETTING ON MY NERVES! Philip (indeed, it’s that time of the month again — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Philip, Chocolate…run for chocolate…lol! smiles, Elise

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:I think all the men on ASAP-M have PMS I`m glad you said that and not me :along with the women. I NEVER, EVER, have PMS.  <HISS ~~~ :It’s very contagious! I know, we catch everything from you guys<g! Jackie ~*~Would you respect my mind more if it bounced gently when I walked?~*~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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I know, we catch everything from you guys<g!

Ha ha!  <clap clap clap   ER, I mean:  <applause xo Anne — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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: :a) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling withdrawal. :b) Tapering off the Medrol and feeling "inflamed". :c) Getting better finally and getting my energy back. :d) Getting better and now realizing that my Effexor dose :    is too high. Sorry you are feeling anxious and irritable today. Are you sure you aren`t PMS`ing? It`s probably a combination of the above that is reeking havoc with you. Rest assured that this is just a temporary feeling. I suggest you lay on the couch all day and pig out on chocolate. That always makes me feel better :I’ll let you know how I feel in the morning. : :Sorry for being absent today. I hope you feel better soon. Don`t worry about being absent, it`s more important to take care of "you". {{{{{Tony}}}}} Jackie ~*~Would you respect my mind more if it bounced gently when I walked?~*~ — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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glad your sinus infection better hopefully it just a small adjustment till you feel better all around Jim

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Sorry you are feeling anxious and irritable today. Are you sure you aren`t PMS`ing?

I think all the men on ASAP-M have PMS along with the women. It’s very contagious! Chip  :^) — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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So Tony, how are you feeling today?  I have it today.  Pretty bad too.  The nervous jitters and all.  I hope you are feeling better. BTW, the weather is gorgeous here today.  Mid 60’s sunshine and the beaches are gorgeous (water is around 53 degrees however) Take care, friend, Vicki — The charter is available at:  http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Has anyone heard of Zoloft withdrawal lasting longer than a couple of weeks? I was taking 200 to 250 mg Zoloft daily (increased during PMS) and then switched to Celexa. I was frustrated with neither of them helping my depression, so I unwisely abruptly discontinued the medication. My withdrawal symptoms ranged from moderate to severe…initially, I experienced extreme agitation, anxiety, crying, uncharacteristic rage, and formication (sensation that bugs were crawling on me). With the help of my doctor, I restarted a low dose of Celexa (I had been on 20 mg prior to this) and tapered off–but still quicker than I should have because I’m stubborn. The main problems that persisted for a couple of weeks were numbness and tingling in my arms and legs, and then spontaneous pain or muscle spasms in my legs. (Pretty darn painful). That and gastro-intestinal distress. My doctor felt that most of this was actually withdrawal from the Zoloft, not Celexa. She felt that the Celexa had prevented me from going into Zoloft withdrawal, but when I discontinued Celexa, the Zoloft withdrawal kicked in. From what I’ve read about other people’s experiences with Zoloft withdrawal, my symptoms do appear to match theirs. I had been taking Zoloft (at different doses) for about 4 years. I tried other medications during that time, but I was unable to tolerate most of them. I am very sensitive to medications and tend to have side effects with just about everything I take, usually to the point where I don’t want to take anything. Back to the symptoms–after 2-1/2 weeks, these symptoms diminished. 3-1/2 weeks after the initial discontinuation, however, I had a flare-up of gastro-intenstinal distress that lasted a day or two. Then, 4-1/2 weeks after the initial discontinuation (maybe 2 weeks since stopping the mild tapering-off) I experienced the leg pain, numbness, tingling along with severe stomach cramps and such. I did not expect to still be experiencing withdrawal symptoms, so I’m confused. Am I imagining things? Is this something else? Thank you for any help you can provide.

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My 80 year old farther(in pretty good shape looks more like 65) has bouts of depression…last time lasted 2 months and had to move in  with me and my family.Finnaly got off zanax(very unpleasent) , now will start on prozac???He doesn’t seem tolerante to these medications…sometimes making him worse.Depression started in again about a week ago…any good results with anything..including prozac?Bill

Xanax is a benzodiazepine, in the same class of drugs as Valium. It is commonly used to treat anxiety disorders, including anxiety due to depression However, ALL benzodiazepines are very sedating, and they should not be used for treatment of depressive disorders without anxiety. Prozac (fluoxetine) and Zoloft (sertraline) are Selective Serotonin Receptor uptake Inhibitors (SSRI’s) These constitute a newer class of antidepressants with greater specificity and proportedly lower incidence of side-effects, but YMMV. Since up to a third of diabetics (with studies ranging from 20 – 50%) will develop symptoms of depression during their lifetimes, depression is not uncommon and may respond to the right drug or combination of drugs for treatment of the depression. Parenthetically, Tricyclic anitdepressants (TCA) like Elavil (ami ryptaline), Desipramine (norpramine) and Imipramine (Tofranil) have also been effectively used to manage pain due to peripheral diabetic neuropathy. Hope things go well for Dad.

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Your information about the seratonin receptors, Prozac and Zoloft was most interesting.  You say, one third of all diabetics suffer from depression. Would this account for "black moods"?  Moods that seem to make one snappy and irritable?  Would that constitue depression or just a borderline kind of thing one needs to live with?  Are there any nonmedicational prescriptions that are just as effective. If on Prozac, do people tend to become more conscientious about taking care of themselves. I tend to find that there is a cycle at play.  Feeling bad, overeating, raised sugars, feeling irritable, eating, etc. What are your thoughts?  Is Prozac effective incombating some of these cyclic problems?  Do you find that Prozac or Zoloft is effective in helping with relationships. The family is taking quite a beating.

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<snip He doesn’t seem tolerante to these medications…sometimes making him worse.Depression started in again about a week ago…any good results with anything..including prozac?Bill

Karen Knox Responds: I have had good luck with zoloft, which is a cousin to prozac.  I did have some naseau at first and jumped between being tired and jittery. I am now taking my 150 mgs in the am which allows me to sleep at night. Not all have this good experiemce.  I have taken Pamelor and had good results, but the side effects were very hard for me (dry mouth) because I teach.  Good luck. Karen Knox in chilly Maine

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My 80 year old farther(in pretty good shape looks more like 65) has bouts of depression…last time lasted 2 months and had to move in  with me and my family.Finnaly got off zanax(very unpleasent) , now will start on prozac???He doesn’t seem tolerante to these medications…sometimes making him worse.Depression started in again about a week ago…any good results with anything..including prozac?Bill

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am s depressed. Can someone help me? I am reading Diabetis For Dummies. It is a good book but so depressing. I can not keep my glucose under control. Yes, it is depressing, no different than dealing with any other chronic health problems. I *strongly* urge you to either find or start a support/social group with other diabetics in your area. Having access to that kind of accumilated wisdom is great and inspiring, but sometimes you just need a hug from someone who’s been there, and you can’t get that from the Usenet. I read if you’ve had one heart attack you have a 80% chance of having another within 5 years. I’ve gon 4 and a half. Does that mean I only have 6 mths left? Please help me. My father has had two heart transplants, about two years apart. After the second one, he was told that he likely had only seven years to live (the typical expectency for someone having a transplant and already on anti-rejection medication.) That was almost 13 years ago, and he is still very much alive, healthy and (to my great happiness) spending his children’s inheritence with abandon The statistics are merely *averages*. For every three people who have a second heart attack within five years, there is one who has it sooner and one who has it latter. There are people who, because of changes in their lifestyles, NEVER have a second. Certainly you’ve learned the drill from your reading, so repeat after me: "I will NOT have seconds. I will NOT have seconds…."

Hello, I’m new to the group but have some input on your subject.  As to the Depression, if it lasts more than a week or so seek professional help.  I know as I am a Manic/Depressive (BiPolar I) and I have an Anxiety Disorder.  These I’ve been treated for over 6 years now and its under control. I just found out 8 months ago I was a Type II Diabetic, tried several of the pills but they didn’t agree with my IBC (Irritable Bowel Syndrome) so I take Humulin N injections 1x a day.  At the beginning this started to depress me but with the help of my therapist and a positive attitude that it was just another bump in the road of life I have accepted my condition. As to worrying about another heart attach, well my father died about 3 days after his 48th birthday of heart disease and from the age of 30 to 47 I worried about it or thought about it almost every day.  I’m now 48 1/2 and realize that all that worry was for nothing.  I enjoy each day as though it might be my last.  Treat others as I would like to be treated, go to Mass regularly and try to follow my doctors advice as well as educate myself on my various illness’s. Your on your way with the education part, now just accept you have it and learn to deal with it. "The Internet is like a giant jellyfish. You can’t step on it. You can’t go around it. You’ve got to get through it."                                 -John Evans TIA & Regards, Tom  

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I have a   ‘depersonalization’ disorder, which may stem from stress , no panic attacks, moderate anxiety.  I’m 40 years old and I have never taken any medications for my psyche. I will be taking Prozac soon in a depersonalization study. On this newsgroup however,  Paxil seems to be all the rage. Has it supplanted Prozac?  What are the pros and cons of each? Is one better then the other?

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I have a   ‘depersonalization’ disorder, which may stem from stress , no panic attacks, moderate anxiety.  I’m 40 years old and I have never taken any medications for my psyche. I will be taking Prozac soon in a depersonalization study. On this newsgroup however,  Paxil seems to be all the rage. Has it supplanted Prozac?  What are the pros and cons of each? Is one better then the other?

Like all medications, Paxil and Prozac work differently for different people. Probably why Paxil features more here than Prozac or Zoloft is that its manufacturers have had it tested and approved for use in anxiety cases – thus doctors tend to reach for it first. However, that *doesn’t* mean it is more effective, simply that SmithKline Beecham decided to put it through the approval process so they could sell it for that use. Your doctor will have prescribed you Prozac because s/he thinks it’s worth trying. But there’s no way anyone can be sure and if you’d started with Paxil you might well have ended-up on Prozac anyway. It’s suck it and see, I’m afraid – literally! — Gary Cooper

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I don’t know what the SSRIs are doing in "the real world", but in 1993 when my psychiatrist put me on Zoloft, he said of the three SSRIs then available, Paxil was the most sedating, Prozac the most stimulating, and Zoloft was somewhere between those two. Therefore he suggested Zoloft. Naturally I followed his advice and glad I did. The Zoloft has never caused sedation or stimulation in me. Even though psych meds are YMMV, etc, etc, there are valid generalizations that can be made IMHO. Chip

Chip Thanks for your information.  What do you mean by stimulating. When you started Zoloft did you have anxiety ?  My problem is anxiety and OCB. I tried paxil and gained tons of weight but felt great. I was sleeping well (something I never did). I was very very lazy.  I went off paxil because of the weight gain, but I feel I need to get back on the SSRIs again. I’m thinking Prozac or Zoloft. I’v heard of some strange side effects with Zoloft though, like eye twitching, having trouble peeing and so on.  Did you exeperience any side effects that you couldn’t cope with? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (PST+9) I don’t think that, in the real world, Prozac has a very good track record when used for anxiety. It is generally much more anxiety-provoking than Paxil, and chances are that you will experience the same adverse effects anyway, especially with respect to sexual problems. Of course, you will never know for sure unless you try it. Pierre In the real world Prozac has about the same track record for PAD as the other SSRI’s. I would definitely not say that it’s more anxiety-provoking than Paxil. It’s very much an YMMV thing. I myself had good results with Prozac but had to stop it after a year or so because of a rare side effect. Of the SSRI’s Luvox seems to give somewhat lesser problems with sexual dysfunction but low dose Prozac (10 mg) chances are that one may not experience it either. Because all AD’s tend to cause heigthened anxiety and some other weird side effect in the beginning it is advisable to *start low and go slow*: as Prozac is available in lquid form it’s possible to start it at 2,5 mgs and then up it with 2,5 mg every week. Otherwise (tabs) 5 mg is rather safe too. Philip I was on Paxil for 9 months (for anxiety) and loved it – except for the weight gain and sexual disfunction. I want to try Prozac. Has anyone had any good results from using it for anxiety? What are the side effects that you experieced? Please help! I am dying to get back on an SSRI but I want to take the right one. Thanks for any help. ..Tania Before you buy.

Before you buy.

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If you have OCD, any of the SSRIs or Anafranil (more side effects, but possibly more effective), are supposed to be drugs of choice.  Often they have to be augmented with BuSpar or Klonopin or an "antipsychotic". OCD is hard to treat, but any improvement is appreciated by most patients. Chip

Hi Chip,  My OCD was not "hard to treat". The Paxil knocked it right out and even switching to Zoloft it did not return. Also, I am wondering what "antipsychotic" you are referring to as a cure for OCD?? Maybe mine’s (OCD) just not that big of a deal. You might want to throw in a YMMV on these two. I know mine did if what you say is true. Can someone enlighten me?  P.S. Also I hear more about xanax or klon. being used as an augment med with SSRIs…….is Buspar used as well? I had zero luck with Buspar too. YMMV. Regards, Miriam

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Hi Miriam, I’m glad you responded to both meds you mentioned for OCD. Often OCD is difficult to treat (i.e. get a good response from meds), and larger doses of the SSRIs may have to be used (for example, up to 80 mg/day of Prozac). I have also read that SSRIs may have to be augmented with other med(s) to get a good response in OCD, such as BuSpar, up to 60 mg/day. Many meds have been used attempting to augment SSRIs for OCD, including Klonopin, and an antipsychotic (pimozide has been used). None of these meds "cure" OCD, but they can reduce symptoms. I’m on Zoloft and Klonopin for PD with good response for the PD, but still have mild OC symptoms such as checking and doubt. Chip

If you have OCD, any of the SSRIs or Anafranil (more side effects, but possibly more effective), are supposed to be drugs of choice. Often they have to be augmented with BuSpar or Klonopin or an "antipsychotic". OCD is hard to treat, but any improvement is appreciated by most patients. Chip Hi Chip,

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Guess what? My wife was diagnosed with severe OCD this morning.  I guess she may change her views.  What a mind trip! Calvin

Hi Calvin, What a strange twist. So, now what? — monkey http://pages.hotbot.com/health/sillychickens/ mon…@gilligansisland.net (to email me axe ‘gilligans’) —

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dragon wrote:

Guess what? My wife was diagnosed with severe OCD this morning.  I guess she may change her views.  What a mind trip!

Wow!  I hope that she can change her views but only time will tell. Kind regards, Steve

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Guess what? My wife was diagnosed with severe OCD this morning.  I guess she may change her views.  What a mind trip! Calvin * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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My wife says that if I take these medications, her and my son will be ashamed of me and that they are no different than illegal drugs.

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She is from China.  So she has a different view on everything due to her culture.

Hi Dragon, Like a few of the other posters said, you could take your wife to the doctor with you. Also, maybe you could locate a doctor that is Chinese and/or go to a Chinese Medicine clinic where maybe you could speak with someone who might help build a bridge between the ‘western’ medicine thought and the views your wife has. — monkey http://pages.hotbot.com/health/sillychickens/ mon…@gilligansisland.net (to email me axe ‘gilligans’) —

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She is from China.  So she has a different view on everything due to her culture.

Hmmm… that’s a tough one. I can’t think of a better idea than fuzzybrain’s at the moment. I suppose that you could ignore her views but it could be a very unsatisfactory solution, especially if she has a lot of influence over your son. Kind regards, Steve

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She is from China.  So she has a different view on everything due to her culture. Calvin Tait * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Dear Dragon Sounds like, if you can arrange it, you and your wife might benefit from a session together with your MD or whomever it was that prescribed the drugs. — peace from fuzzybrain I’m not GOING crazy, I’m already there!!!! dragon <p_taitNOp_S…@yahoo.com.invalid

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Does anyone use Effexor for OCD?  I have taken Paxil, Zoloft, and now Effexor XR with Klonopin for OCD and Anxiety. I take 150 mg a day.

I used to take Paxil (50 mg) and I now take Effexor (375 mg).

I have been diagnosed only a month ago with OCD

It’s early days then. You may not notice any benefits from the Effexor for a while yet.

My wife says that if I take these medications, her and my son will be ashamed of me and that they are no different than illegal drugs.

What an extraordinary attitude! There must be some reason for your wife thinking like this. I think that fuzzybrain’s suggestion of letting your wife talk to your psychiatrist about medications was a very good one. Does she have some strong religious beliefs that perhaps forbid taking medications? She obviously feels very strongly about this and seems to also be prepared to influence your son’s thinking. Perhaps she regards OCD as a "weakness"? Can you talk with her to find out what’s going on? Kind regards, Steve

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My wife says that if I take these medications, her and my son will be ashamed of me and that they are no different than illegal drugs.

That is terrible!  They are different from illegal drugs.  People use illegal drugs to get "high", to feel what a normal person cannot feel in a normal day of their lives. We use our medications to feel normal, to have a normal day in our life. Our brains (I would argue) seem to be lacking some important chemicals… and the drugs give us what we need to function close to normally. There is a myth among ‘normal’ people that prozac, and other drugs will make you happy.  They think it somehow magically makes you feel great everyday of your life ever after.  They have no clue what it’s really like to need these drugs. I’m so sorry that your wife feels that way.  If you need the drugs, take them. orlan

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Would your wife be ashamed of you if you had high blood pressure and had to take medicine to control it? She is *seriously* misinformed about OCD and medication. I can not advise you specifically about Effexor because I take a different medication, but I *can* tell you that antidepressants have improved my life considerably. They *are* different than illegal drugs. No comparison. Maybe your doctor can talk some sense into her. Don’t let her fears and/or antipathy stop you from doing something that will probably help you in the long run. Regards, Ida dragon <p_taitNOp_S…@yahoo.com.invalid

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Brett- This kind of problem always appeared for me (as for about a million others) if an SSRI was involved at a normally therapeutic dosage. (I’m including Welbutrin here even though I think its action is primarily dopamine-related, but not sure.)

higher doses-but not ejac.(my studied opinion based on reading. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I was properly diagnosed as bipolar I was taken off all SSRIs and put on tegretol which has no such negative effects on plumbing.  Sometime later a very small, "subtherapeutic" dose of effexor was added to the tegretol/klonopin combo.  It seemed to have positive effect on mood in spite of how small the dose was, and it had no sexual side effects at all. If you are bipolar, why don’t you discuss with a psychopharmacologist the possibility of relying less on SSRIs?  Negative sexual side effects are serious side effects in my opinion, in spite of the triviality with which some people may view them. Shukoku I hate to beat on a dead horse and am sure that this subject has been brought up many times, but I needto bring it up again. I’m on a combo of depekote, wellbutrin, klonopin and prozac and am suffering from serious sexual disfunction. Not to get into too much detail, but I can do all but ejaculate.  I was thinking that maybe "Yohimba" might help….  Anyone tried it?  How about that new drug on the market for impotence??  It would just add one more pill to the many we already take daily, but to have a sex live, it would be worth it. I’ve pretty much come to terms with the fact that this subject will always be a problem for me and a delicate one for my partner as she feels guilty that she cannot "please" me as she would like to.  I would rather live a "normal" life and give up a portion of my sex life…  But will constantly look for a solution. Anyone tried either method??? what is an SSRI? thanks, tom arnall fort washington, md usa

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Well I can pretty well tell you which drug is the major *culprit* in

Don’t be too sure that the problem is solely from Klonopin.  Prozac is also known to cause sexual dysfunction, including inorgasmia.  I am not sure, but that may be a general problem with SSRI’s. This problem should be discussed with your pdoc.  Don’t add any "natural" remedies without checking with the doctor first.  It can be dangerous to mix over-the-counter meds with prescription drugs. Good luck.  

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Brett.. just read your post.. Check this out.. it’s becoming the TOC in SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction.. it’s a great cognitive enhancer too, but make sure you get a quality standardized extract.  Nature’s Way and Eclectic Institute in Oregon have good products, or you can call L & H Vitamins toll free in NYC.. E-mail me if you want tel #’s.                  http://www.publinet.it/pol/pharmol/gingko.htm    (gingko biloba)

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I find Zoloft is just as bad, with a total kill of the sex drive. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I can pretty well tell you which drug is the major *culprit* in Don’t be too sure that the problem is solely from Klonopin.  Prozac is also known to cause sexual dysfunction, including inorgasmia.  I am not sure, but that may be a general problem with SSRI’s. This problem should be discussed with your pdoc.  Don’t add any "natural" remedies without checking with the doctor first.  It can be dangerous to mix over-the-counter meds with prescription drugs. Good luck.  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Brett- This kind of problem always appeared for me (as for about a million others) if an SSRI was involved at a normally therapeutic dosage. (I’m including Welbutrin here even though I think its action is primarily dopamine-related, but not sure.) When I was properly diagnosed as bipolar I was taken off all SSRIs and put on tegretol which has no such negative effects on plumbing.  Sometime later a very small, "subtherapeutic" dose of effexor was added to the tegretol/klonopin combo.  It seemed to have positive effect on mood in spite of how small the dose was, and it had no sexual side effects at all. If you are bipolar, why don’t you discuss with a psychopharmacologist the possibility of relying less on SSRIs?  Negative sexual side effects are serious side effects in my opinion, in spite of the triviality with which some people may view them. Shukoku I hate to beat on a dead horse and am sure that this subject has been brought up many times, but I needto bring it up again. I’m on a combo of depekote, wellbutrin, klonopin and prozac and am suffering from serious sexual disfunction. Not to get into too much detail, but I can do all but ejaculate.  I was thinking that maybe "Yohimba" might help….  Anyone tried it?  How about that new drug on the market for impotence??  It would just add one more pill to the many we already take daily, but to have a sex live, it would be worth it. I’ve pretty much come to terms with the fact that this subject will always be a problem for me and a delicate one for my partner as she feels guilty that she cannot "please" me as she would like to.  I would rather live a "normal" life and give up a portion of my sex life…  But will constantly look for a solution. Anyone tried either method???

what is an SSRI? thanks, tom arnall fort washington, md usa

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You asked what a SSRI is ? It’s a Serotonin-Specific Reuptake Inhibitor. It means that the Serotonin Reuptake site is blocked and serotonin stays in the synaptic cleft (and seeps out, where it might activate pre-synaptic receptors) where serotonin activates the post-synaptic receptors. In other words. a SSRI is a material that has potenial anti-depressant, stabilizing and anti-anxiety properties, because the brains’ Serotonin system is stabilized (mostly at a higher level of activity). a SSRI, like prozac (fluoxetine), paroxetil/Seroxat (paroxetine) will, because it’s serotonin-specific, therefore exhibit very rarely many side effects. Whether they work better as the classical tricyclics still remains to be seen, but the apparent lack of side effects is VERY NICE! GREETINGS and Keep Sailing The Seas Of High Hopes ! Bas                     DE  DIGITALE  STAD

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                    DE  DIGITALE  STAD Op Wed, 27 May 1998, Chip schreef: I hate to beat on a dead horse and am sure that this subject has been brought up many times, but I needto bring it up again. I’m on a combo of depekote, wellbutrin, klonopin and prozac and am suffering from serious sexual disfunction. Not to get into too much detail, but I can do all but ejaculate.  I was thinking that maybe "Yohimba" might help….  Anyone tried it?  How about that new drug on the market for impotence??  It would just add one more pill to the many we already take daily, but to have a sex live, it would be worth it.

Taking Yohimbe (That’s the dutch name of the inner bark of an african tree) in combination with Prozac is a definite No-NO! Yohimbe containse Yohimbine, which is beside a vasodilator of the genitals (Due to adrenergic

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the other day we ran out of zoloft and dint have the money on hand to refill the prescription. (that’s how broke we are..only a $5 co-pay and dint have it!) anyway..noticed last night that head is spinning alittle and feeling kinda dizzy. vision blurring alittle off and on. does anybody know if there is a withdrawal from this stuff? can’t tell if we are feeling this wierd physical stuff cuz of internal stuff (int*gr*t*on, not complete at this time, just a partial thing), new stuff coming up, or cuz of the lack of zoloft in the system. was taking 100 mg. a day.  wonder if we should get a refill now or ride this out or what.  prolly could call dr. but doctor doesn’t know about the other stuff and we are not about to tell him <g. would it be harmful to be off this junk (as former addict, the dr. *official* drugs do not impress me, sorry to say!) and then start up again. just wondering if anybody knows. thanks, jayc p.s.  any other former addicts/DID have trouble telling if an antidepressant *works*?  i am always clueless when questioned.  in my mind, it doesn’t buzz me.. so i think "nope".  but, body is feeling odd now, so who knows.  maybe was doing something, just dint recognize it cuz of no buzz?  (sigh) dr.’s drugs confuse me.  too bad they won’t let me take the ones that i like. (fantasy…dr. perscribed marijauna. oh, heaven. i know, i know..it’ll never happen.) — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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posted and e-mailed   I’m sorry that you are feeling disoriented. FWIW, taking Zoloft does that to me. I looked up Zoloft in a prescription drug guide. It says that you shouldn’t experience any withdrawal effects even if you suddenly stop taking it bc it’s eliminated from the body very slowly. But you should call your MD if you quit taking the drug for any reason. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the other day we ran out of zoloft and dint have the money on hand to refill the prescription. (that’s how broke we are..only a $5 co-pay and dint have it!) anyway..noticed last night that head is spinning alittle and feeling kinda dizzy. vision blurring alittle off and on. does anybody know if there is a withdrawal from this stuff? can’t tell if we are feeling this wierd physical stuff cuz of internal stuff (int*gr*t*on, not complete at this time, just a partial thing), new stuff coming up, or cuz of the lack of zoloft in the system. was taking 100 mg. a day.  wonder if we should get a refill now or ride this out or what.  prolly could call dr. but doctor doesn’t know about the other stuff and we are not about to tell him <g. would it be harmful to be off this junk (as former addict, the dr. *official* drugs do not impress me, sorry to say!) and then start up again. just wondering if anybody knows. thanks, jayc p.s.  any other former addicts/DID have trouble telling if an antidepressant *works*?  i am always clueless when questioned.  in my mind, it doesn’t buzz me.. so i think "nope".

I got the "Zoloft buzz" almost immediately when I took it. According to my friend (the walking pharmacy), it’s a common reaction. However, I get a better buzz from a good cup of coffee.  The coffee tastes better and is cheaper, too. But my MD wouldn’t prescribe my favorite local (very strong) brand.  ):   jayc: but, body is feeling odd now, so who knows.  maybe was doing something, just dint recognize it cuz of no buzz?  (sigh) dr.’s drugs confuse me.  too bad they won’t let me take the ones that i like. (fantasy…dr. perscribed marijauna. oh, heaven. i know, i know..it’ll never happen.)

You could move to California, although Bill & Co. seem to have made it difficult for MDs to prescribe it now. There are local places that still sell it at cost if you have a doctor’s prescription, though. (: If you can afford it, I think you should get your prescription refilled (you can use some of the money you’re saving on therapy now that you have good insurance!) and see if it helps. It will probably take a few weeks to tell. If it helps you, keep taking it. If it doesn’t, stop taking it. Just my 2 cents. (And if you get enough of them, you’ll have your $5 <g.) I don’t think there’s any medical danger in going on and off Zoloft, but bc it takes a while to be effective, it’s probably not a good way to take it. Good luck, jayc.  e — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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hi…just to add that i can’t even miss a day of Zoloft without getting side effects(from withdrawal).  I get the dizzy, spinny feelings. Which is what i got going onto it.  Even if i take it a half-day or quarter day late, i get slight side effects. which is a real pain, since my schedule is so irregular, that i often don’t take it exactly the same time each day.  so, e, i don’t doubt that the guide says this, but it hasn’t been my experience…and i was told that one shoiuldn’t go off any anti-depressant ‘cold turkey’ because of possible side effects and a possible ‘boomerang’ into depression. mouse – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -posted and e-mailed   I’m sorry that you are feeling disoriented. FWIW, taking Zoloft does that to me. I looked up Zoloft in a prescription drug guide. It says that you shouldn’t experience any withdrawal effects even if you suddenly stop taking it bc it’s eliminated from the body very slowly. But you should call your MD if you quit taking the drug for any reason. the other day we ran out of zoloft and dint have the money on hand to refill the prescription. (that’s how broke we are..only a $5 co-pay and dint have it!) anyway..noticed last night that head is spinning alittle and feeling kinda dizzy. vision blurring alittle off and on. does anybody know if there is a withdrawal from this stuff? can’t tell if we are feeling this wierd physical stuff cuz of internal stuff (int*gr*t*on, not complete at this time, just a partial thing), new stuff coming up, or cuz of the lack of zoloft in the system. was taking 100 mg. a day.  wonder if we should get a refill now or ride this out or what.  prolly could call dr. but doctor doesn’t know about the other stuff and we are not about to tell him <g. would it be harmful to be off this junk (as former addict, the dr. *official* drugs do not impress me, sorry to say!) and then start up again. just wondering if anybody knows. thanks, jayc p.s.  any other former addicts/DID have trouble telling if an antidepressant *works*?  i am always clueless when questioned.  in my mind, it doesn’t buzz me.. so i think "nope". I got the "Zoloft buzz" almost immediately when I took it. According to my friend (the walking pharmacy), it’s a common reaction. However, I get a better buzz from a good cup of coffee.  The coffee tastes better and is cheaper, too. But my MD wouldn’t prescribe my favorite local (very strong) brand.  ):   jayc: but, body is feeling odd now, so who knows.  maybe was doing something, just dint recognize it cuz of no buzz?  (sigh) dr.’s drugs confuse me.  too bad they won’t let me take the ones that i like. (fantasy…dr. perscribed marijauna. oh, heaven. i know, i know..it’ll never happen.) You could move to California, although Bill & Co. seem to have made it difficult for MDs to prescribe it now. There are local places that still sell it at cost if you have a doctor’s prescription, though. (: If you can afford it, I think you should get your prescription refilled (you can use some of the money you’re saving on therapy now that you have good insurance!) and see if it helps. It will probably take a few weeks to tell. If it helps you, keep taking it. If it doesn’t, stop taking it. Just my 2 cents. (And if you get enough of them, you’ll have your $5 <g.) I don’t think there’s any medical danger in going on and off Zoloft, but bc it takes a while to be effective, it’s probably not a good way to take it. Good luck, jayc.  e — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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the other day we ran out of zoloft and dint have the money on hand to refill the prescription. (that’s how broke we are..only a $5 co-pay and dint have it!) anyway..noticed last night that head is spinning alittle and feeling kinda dizzy. vision blurring alittle off and on. does anybody know if there is a withdrawal from this stuff?

I didnt feel this when I stopped taking this and I was on 200 mg at the time ( alittle high but they kept upping it cuz it didnt work switched to wellbutrin) can’t tell if we are feeling this wierd physical stuff cuz of internal stuff (int*gr*t*on, not complete at this time, just a partial thing), new stuff coming up, or cuz of the lack of zoloft in the system. was taking 100 mg. a day.  wonder if we should get a refill now or ride this out or what.  prolly could call dr. but doctor doesn’t know about the other stuff and we are not about to tell him <g.

Its important to stay on your antidepressant cuz you can crash and burn if your body still needs it. I went into a nose dive 4 or 5 months ago when I couldnt afford my med (Its $60 a pop -my insur pays only 1/2) and I hit the floor about 1 week later. So you might want to see if you could get the refill or at least ask your doctor. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – would it be harmful to be off this junk (as former addict, the dr. *official* drugs do not impress me, sorry to say!) and then start up again. just wondering if anybody knows. thanks, jayc p.s.  any other former addicts/DID have trouble telling if an antidepressant *works*?  i am always clueless when questioned.  in my mind, it doesn’t buzz me.. so i think "nope".  but, body is feeling odd now, so who knows.  maybe was doing something, just dint recognize it cuz of no buzz?  (sigh) dr.’s drugs confuse me.  too bad they won’t let me take the ones that i like. (fantasy…dr. perscribed marijauna. oh, heaven. i know, i know..it’ll never happen.)

Sometimes its not the past drugs but with DID often it works for one alter and not another! dang! Good luck and I hope it works out. Adult C Federation of C – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — For more information about this service, send e-mail to:

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Monique,         Yes, you could be experiencing withdrawal from the drug.  I believe it is because the drugs changes your chemistry gradually as you went on it.  A friend of mine stopped taking Zolof and had the same reaction.  It is best to go off these drugs _very slowly_ so as not to bet the side effects.           You may want to ask your physician’s office if they have "samples" which they supply to their clients who are having trouble paying for the drug.  Many places do give the samples to their clients who do not have the ability to pay. Also your pharmacist should be able fill a partical perscription.             I don’t think you would find that an antidepressent would give you a "buzz", maybe in the past they did but things like Zolof probably wouldn’t make you feel that way.  (Maybe unless you are going off them too fast   Good Luck – Noel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the other day we ran out of zoloft and dint have the money on hand to refill the prescription. (that’s how broke we are..only a $5 co-pay and dint have it!) anyway..noticed last night that head is spinning alittle and feeling kinda dizzy. vision blurring alittle off and on. does anybody know if there is a withdrawal from this stuff?

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Hello All! Dear Participant I am a student at a university in Colorado Springs Colorado.  I am required to complete a research project. This project is close to my heart since I have been divorced twice, both times it was not my choice.  This research involves no-fault divorce and its effect on the family.

Dennis’ survey is available in online/browser format at: http://www.10mb.com/jbarchuk/opinion/ Under the category ‘Family’. Have a day! — jim barchuk http://www.10mb.com/jbarchuk/

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I <<<think this was a typo…. =15. Divorce eliminates dad relationships reducing stress in the parents =allowing them to better their economical status. = =       ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD Or was it? David

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Dear Participant I am a student at a university in Colorado Springs Colorado.  I am required to complete a research project. This project is close to my heart since I have been divorced twice, both times it was not my choice.  This research involves no-fault divorce and its effect on the family. All data for the project is held in strict confidence.  Your name and other identification are not requested.  The results will not be sold, formally published or used for comercial profit.  However the completed project will be bound and placed in the University’s library. By completing the questionnaire youare giving consent for this information to be used in my research. Dennis N. Rosas I am going to post results in this new group, however if you would like one sent to you check here______ and I will e-mail you a copy.   Male_____               Age_____ Female_____             Have you ever been divorced_____ Please answer the following questions by indicating the response that most closely resembles your thought on the statement that is given.  Please return questionnaire by returning them to Dennis N. Rosas.  Thank you for your participation in this project.  I will post result in this new group on or about 19 May 1997. Use the following guide to respond to the statements: SA – Strongly Agree A- Agree U – Uncertain D – Disagree SD – Strongly Disagree 1.  No-fault divorce has increased problems with today’s youths.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 2.  No-fault divorce negatively effects the emotional well being of teenagers.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 3.  Young adults who come from a divorced home have trouble in future relationships.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 4.  Because society accepts divorce and the breakdown in the family, divorce is more acceptable            now.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 5.  No-fault divorce has placed more children at risk of behavioral disorders.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 6.  Societies mores have nothing to do with the divorce rate.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 7.  Adolescents who come from a broken home understand what it takes to have a good        relationship.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 8.  No-fault divorce eliminates bad relationships preventing undue stress on adolescents.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 9.  Breakdown of society has led to increased pressure on the family unit increasing divorce rates.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 10.  No-fault divorce allows bad marriages to end quickly eliminating stress in the family unit that         could cause negative affects.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 11.  The effect of divorce on teenagers causes increases in failed relationships as adults.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 12.  Quick and easy divorces have little effect on future relationships of young adults.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 13.  Divorce causes undue economical stress on all parties involved.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 14.  Societies view on divorce has nothing to do with the divorce rate.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 15. Divorce eliminates dad relationships reducing stress in the parents allowing them to better             their economical status.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD 16.  No-fault divorce has had no effect on raising children.         ___SA      ___A     ___U      ___D      ___SD

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